10 Albums We Love to Hate from 10 Artists We Love
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Topic: 10 Albums We Love to Hate from 10 Artists We Love
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: 10 Albums We Love to Hate from 10 Artists We Love
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 02:42
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These are 10 of my least favourite prog albums from 10 of my favourite artists, arranged in alphabetical order:- Kate Bush - The Dreaming (1982) Steve Hackett - Cured (1981) Steve Hillage - Rainbow Dome Musick (1979) King Crimson - Discipline (1981) National Health - Missing Pieces (1994) Queen - Hot Space (1982) Renaissance - Time-Line (1983) Soft Machine - Fourth (1971) Spooky Tooth - Ceremony (with Pierre Henry) (1970) Van der Graaf Generator - Present (2005) Which are your 10 least favourite prog albums
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 02:54
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^ the term "least favorite" means I still like that album, at least for me. If you are asking about albums I dislike, that's a different story.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:07
I just thought "least favourite album" sounded more positive than "worst album", but yes, least favourite means the 10 albums you dislike the most by 10 of your favourite artists.
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Cristi wrote:Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:11
so 10 favorite prog artists, any genre right? That will take a while.  Some of them have not released something I dislike. This is going to be hard and I am complicating things.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:33
Imagine hating discipline  Matte Kudasai and Frame By Frame are top shelf Crim songs over here.I can't think of any albums I particularly hate from any artists I like. I guess Kansas really fell off as they head into the 80s, not much a fan of Wake Of Poseidon either ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:37
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What's with all the numbered list hater threads lately? ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:38
80s Crimson is my least favorite KC, but I can' say I dislike it. I like 80s Kansas, even Drastic Measures. I do understand why some dislike it, true. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:43
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Yeah I love Discipline as well. The Dreaming also happens to be one of my fave Kate albums...so the usual applies: there really is no accounting for personal taste. Conversely there are a lot of Paul’s favourites that I don’t particularly care for. Tastebuds eh.. But sure I’ll play: Pink Floyd - The Final Cut Genesis - Calling All Stations Guru Guru - UFO ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:44
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Personally, I love Discipline. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:45
It took me a whole week to come up with my bottom 10 list, so there's plenty of time. I can name dozens of well-known prog artists who've never released an album I dislike, including:- The Alan Parsons Project; Jon Anderson; Barclay James Harvest; Camel; Caravan; Dead Can Dance; Deep Purple; ELO; ELP; The Enid; Genesis; David Gilmour; Annie Haslam; If; Jade Warrior; Led Zeppelin; Jon Lord; Man; The Moody Blues; Nektar; Sally Oldfield; Pink Floyd; Procol Harum; Rare Bird; Traffic; Uriah Heep; Roger Waters; & Yes, to name just a few.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 03:49
I thought it'd make a change from yet another Top 7 albums list.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 06:37
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Aw, I love Discipline too and I think Missing Pieces and Rainbow Dome Musick are pretty fantastic as well. anyway, I second Calling All Stations and would further like to mention Frank Zappa's Thing-Fish and ELP's Black Moon (as well as To The Power Of Three if one considers that a part of their discography)
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 07:27
Black Moon just happens to be one of my favourite ELP albums.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 07:39
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Tough for me as I generally don't get or keep albums I don't like so I've not listened to them enough to give an accurate rating. The only really obvious one is Pink Floyd - The Final Cut Had that for a few years and couldn't get along with it at all. These others are my lowest rated amongst artists I generally love, they are either a departure from the style I like or an album I bought before giving up on a band Dave Gilmour - Rattle That Lock Finnegans Wake - The Bird And The Sky Above The Decemberists - What a Terrible World, What a Beautiful World Shub-Niggurath - C'Etaient de Tres Grands Vents Oldfield, Mike - Voyager King Crimson - THRaKaTTaK Comus - To Keep From Crying Aranis - Smells Like Aranis ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 07:48
The Final Cut is Pete Pardo's least favourite Pink Floyd album too, although I prefer it to Ummagumma and The Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 08:02
Ummagumma is amongst my favorite Floyd albums, only topped by WYWH and Animals. Piper is a Syd album really but a classic of its time. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 09:29
Honestly i've always found Momentary Lapse of Reason to be the worst PF album by a good margin, its so.... flaccid  ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 09:48
Bland is better than aggravating ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 09:49
Perhaps oddly, I completely agree with your description of Lapse as flaccid, but it is that flaccidness that makes me love it as much as I do. It’s far closer to be being a favourite Floyd album than least favourite for me. Sometimes, it’s nice to play with something flaccid. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 10:43
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Eloy - Ra (spectacularly bad album by a good band that has a stellar bass player and a bunch of good drummers - and this one features neither) Art Zoyd - Pure Noise (I don't mind that they did this... I actually like them for the balls it takes... I like the whole idea of this album, except that I don't like to listen to it) Talk Talk - The Party's Over (similar thing as with Pure Noise - I'm fine with them having done this; I like the fact that they started off with this because it gave them much space to improve from album to album... actually it has two or three OK to good songs, but still, I hardly ever feel that I should listen to this again) King Crimson - Earthbound (incredibly some seem to like the rough and "earthly" sound of this, but I find the sound and mix so off-putting, I can't enjoy anythijg on it) Novalis - Bumerang (I have no problems with bands changing their style and one could argue that it was clear for some time where Novalis was heading... but this is just unbelievably lame and bloodless... I saw them touring this album and live they were still good by the way) Robert Wyatt - Mid-Eighties (This seems to include the whole Old Rottenhat album... this is a very long collection that has one song - Gharbzedegi - that I really love, and lots of good lyrics over generally very lazy minimalist electronic arrangements... he has done so much better elsewhere) Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Masque (I don't remember a thing from this album, and Manfred is otherwise very good at making things stick in my inner ear... I even once gave it a spin to check and had forgotten all of it by the next day) Steve Hackett - Cured (I thought about nominating Invisible Touch, but I'm not that much of a Genesis fan despite digging most of the Peter Gabriel phase. I admire Steve Hackett and his discography displays a good variety fair enough, but it's a bit hit and miss and this one is the biggest miss I'd say. You've got to give me something to get my teeth in Mr Hackett!) Pink Floyd - Momentary Lapse of Reason (it's bearable which is probably the best to say about it) Jethro Tull - Too Old To Rock'n Roll Too Young To Die (Yes I do like this less than Under Wraps... actually there are a number I like less than Under Wraps) |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 11:45
I love Dave Gilmour's Rattle That Lock. That's a 5-star album for me.  I also like Mike Oldfield's 4-star Voyager album. King Crimson's 2-star THRAK album definitely gets the thumbs down from me though.  I haven't heard the other five albums in your list, which is probably a good thing.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 14:49
| ^THRaKaTTaK is a live album of material from around the time of THRAK, but I suppose that would mean you'd probably dislike that one too Paul. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 14:56
Thanks for the info about King Crimson's THRaKaTTaK album, which I hadn't heard of before, and I have The Power to Believe you're right when you say I won't like the live THRAK album either.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 15:30
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David Bowie - Hours. It was hailed as a sort of comeback when it came out in 1999, but I found it incredibly boring. I'd rather listen to weak 80's albums like Tonight or Never Let Me Down. The reception is even more strange considering that a much more forward thinking album such as 1. Outside never got the credit it deserves.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 15:44
David Bowie's Earthling album was the one I really disliked, mainly because of the awful drum & bass machine sound.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 16:12
But at least he tried out things on Earthling, such as drum and bass music (whether or not one likes that type of music is another story - it's not so much my thing, but I acknowledge its qualities). On Hours it doesn't sound to me like he is trying anything.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 16:29
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^ I listened to all of David Bowie's albums last year, but I don't recall the Hours album at all, which probably indicates it's a very forgettable album.
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Posted By: grantman
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 16:32
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1.emerson, lake and palmer (love beach) 2.black sabbath (never say die) 3.jethro tull (under wraps) 4.genesis (we can,t dance) 5.queen (jazz) 6.yes (big generator) 7.elo (discovery) 8.asia (alpha) 9.kansas (drastic measures) 10.camel (breathless) |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 16:48
I love Breathless  the rest are valid though------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 21:52
Love Breathless too. Mine are: 10) Renaissance: Camera, Camera (they should have stuck to what they were good at) 9) Yes: 90125 (no Steve Howe, no Yes) 8) Genesis: Invisible Touch (disco Genesis with drum machines blaring, We Can't Dance a great improvement) 7) Pink Floyd (or should I say Roger Waters): Final Cut (mostly for the politics) 6) Dream Theater: Metropolis Part 2 (music designed to bore you to death) 5) The Flower Kings: The Sum of No Evil (as above) 4) Transatlantic: The Whirlwind (as above - with contributions from members of the above two bands - honorable mention to Neal Morse for Testimony parts one and two) 3) Gryphon: Treason (when you can't think of anything imitate Yes) 2) Marillion: Less is More (when you don't have any new material) 1) Electric Light Orchestra: Eldorado (one song album stretched out to 40 minutes with the padding)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 27 2020 at 23:42
Less Is More is sort of Marillion unplugged, should not bother anyone, take it as it is, I find it enjoyable and even relaxing at times. "when you don't have any new material"?! - they had released a double album the year before. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 04:47
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ELP - In The Hot Seat Tull - Rock Island Eloy - Ra King Crimson - Discipline Mike Oldfield - Man On The Rocks struggling so will keep to five only. (btw I'm not trolling putting Discipline , I genuinely dislike that album and simply can't get through it!) |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 04:55
I totally agree with you about King Crimson's Discipline album and In the Hot Seat is also my least favourite ELP album.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 04:58
What???????????????
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 05:05
I'm afraid The Dreaming is only a poor 2-star album for me, but on a positive note, Hounds of Love, Aerial & 50 Words for Snow are all 5-star favourites.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 05:11
I'm speechless.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 05:48
It's a daring adventurous album. We should expect that some hate it...
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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 06:20
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Jethro Tull: Under Wraps Genesis: Invisible Touch Peter Gabriel: Ovo Phil Collins: No Jacket Required Roger Waters: Radio KAOS (I owe you five more, sorry) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 06:25
stick to prog artists, No Jacket Required is not a prog album, sorry... I agree with your choices, except Peter Gabriel's Ovo which i like.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 07:04
There's No Jacket Required to take part in this thread, so if Phil Collins wants to gain entry, he can do, even if it's Against All Odds at Face Value.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 07:09
if you want any artist in the list, please ask an admin to move this thread to the general music section then.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 07:20
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^ Phil Collins is prog related due to his long association with Genesis.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 07:21
it does not work like that...
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 07:25
I gathered that after Robin Trower was rejected for inclusion in PA. That's why I put prog related in lower case letters and not capitals.
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 11:46
GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!!!!
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 13:02
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Yes - Open your Eyes (the worst Yes Album by zillion of miles) Miles Davis - Tutu King Crimson - The Construkction Of Light ELP - Works Volume II Genesis - Abacab Jethro Tull - Under Wrasp Magma - Merci In The Woods... - Pure Borknagar - Origin Dream Theater - The Astonishing Steve Hackett - Til We Have Faces (Cured its horrible and the obvious choice) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 28 2020 at 13:07
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^ what's wrong with In The Woods... - Pure?
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 07:12
Yea, I was a little surprised to see The Dreaming on his list too (along with Discipline) But I guess we like what we like.
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 12:51
Love the band, but "Pure" never click on me, perhaps the voice of Fog or the lack of experimentation compared to "Strange in Stereo" and "Omnio". |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 14:59
EE-AW EE-AW EE-AW EE AW EE AW!!!  God-damn best album she ever made!!!------------- |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 16:00
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1.The Construkction Of Light - King Crimson 2. Giant For a Day - Gentle Giant 3. Wonderworld - Uriah Heep 4. Locked In - Wishbone Ash 5. Aerosol Grey Machine - VDDG 6. Broadsword and The Beast - Jethro Tull 7. The Unfortunate Cup of Tea - Horslips 8. Ian Anderson - Rupi's Dance 9. Mother Focus - Focus I just realized...maybe I am not really into prog, as I can only select these 9 acts I possibly "love"... all the other prog artists that I have in my collection I just don't "love" that much. Uriah Heep I loved up until 1973....and Wishbone Ash are prog-related as well. Question is; can anyone really love King Crimson?! Or is it too simplistic to love KC?! I don't love them; just respect them.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 16:39
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I really like Aerosol Grey Machine, and I like Mother Focus. As for Giant for a Day, it's more that I just plain dislike it than love to hate it. I can't think of any albums that I love to hate, I know there have been some guilty pleasure ones that I have somewhat hated to love. The only love to hate thing that I can think of right now might have been Chibnal's Doctor Who run, which is off-topic. As for King Crimson, I have no reason to think that people don't genuinely love it. I genuinely love KC music, but not all of it. I haven't thought of it as particularly simplistic nor that complex. There is a lot of very simple music that I love, and I know that a lot of very simple music that people love. I'm not sure how serious you are being or if I may be misunderstanding you. Even in Prog, I wouldn't call it simplistic, let alone compared to much mainstream rock and pop music. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: December 29 2020 at 16:46
What an odd question. Or perhaps I just don’t understand what you are questioning? Or perhaps you are being facetious? I definitely love King Crimson. Not everything they’ve done - but then again, I’m not sure there is any band or artist for whom I love everything they’ve done. But I certainly love a lot of King Crimson’s music, and enough for me to say that I love them. 🤷🏻♂️ ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Grubert
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 01:45
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Crimson's The Construkction Of Light is actually one of their best albums. Actually Crimson never made a weak album, they are all enjoyable, and their best albums can be found in any of their phases. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 30 2020 at 02:50
Having gone through everyone's Love to Hate list, these are twenty albums I just Love.  Guru Guru - UFO (from Guldbamsen) Pink Floyd - The Final Cut (from Guldbamsen, Nogbad_The_ Bad & ILuvMarillion) Genesis - Calling All Stations (from Guldbamsen) ELP - Black Moon (from Mirakaze) David Gilmour - Rattle That Lock (from Nogbad_The_Bad) Mike Oldfield - Voyager (from Nogbad_The_Bad) Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason (from DougMcauliffe & Lewian) Talk Talk - The Party's Over (from Lewian) ELP - Love Beach (from Grantman) ELO - Discovery (from Grantman) Camel - Breathless (from Grantman) Yes - 90125 (from ILuvMarillion) Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2 (from ILuvMarillion) ELO - Eldorado (from ILuvMarillion) Renaissance - Camera Camera (from ILuvMarillion) Mike Oldfield - Man on the Rocks (from RichardH) Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. (from Heart of the Matter) ELP - Works 2 (from Progmind) Van der Graaf Generator - Aerosol Grey Machine (from Barry Glibb) Uriah Heep - Wonderworld (from Barry Glibb) |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: January 03 2021 at 22:12
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[/QUOTE] But at least he tried out things on Earthling, such as drum and bass music (whether or not one likes that type of music is another story - it's not so much my thing, but I acknowledge its qualities). On Hours it doesn't sound to me like he is trying anything. [/QUOTE] I know. 1. Outside esp the full 2 cd version is very interesting. Nice re-write after The Leon Suites,which his distribution company refused. That would have tested many. Earthling is very powerful sounding. The second Cd sort of acts like a mini Dead Man Walking concept piece. He took the modern approach then (as ever) and applied song craft. Very novel.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: January 03 2021 at 23:03
Just because someone hates particular albums doesn't mean they aren't any good, just that we respond differently to certain albums and the fact we love particular bands we tend to react harshly to the albums we don't like from those bands we love because we have high expectations from them.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 10:24
^ I own at least half the albums on that above list - many of which I've bought from charity shops and car boot sales at bargain basement prices - so it seems they're the unpopular prog albums that the majority of prog fans want to dispose of. Luckily for me, my musical tastes aren't that discerning. 
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 11:10
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Yes- "Heaven and Earth" ELP- "In The Hot Seat" Rush- "Presto" Genesis- "Calling All Stations" Miles Davis- "Tutu" Jethro Tull- "Catfish Rising" Moon Safari - "Himlabacken Vol. 2" Steven Wilson- "The Future Bites" Pain Of Salvation- "Falling Home" Return to Forever- "Music Magic" |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 11:17
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Hate is a strong word, but I reacted very negative towards these albums from bands and artists I normally love: Comus - To Keep From Crying Arti & Mestieri - Quinto Stato David Bowie - Black Tie White Noise Gentle Giant - Giant for a Day! Miles Davis - You're Under Arrest Peter Hammill - The Fall of the House of Usher (yeah I don't get it) Herbie Hancock - Monster The Residents - Freak Show Wayne Shorter - Native Dancer Frank Zappa - You Are What You Is |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 11:26
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 12:25
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Hi, I can't say that I do not like some of the albums by some of the bands that I have over 15/20 cd's of. I have a terrible hard time figuring out which album I like more than the other, but in general, when I like the band, the albums and their differences do not matter. Some fans like the 5th, others the 9th ... I like the 3rd myself! (Mahler), but there is nothing in those things that suggest the work is not very good, or great ... for me it flies and then some!
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 12:49
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^ But then again Malher never really dropped an embarrassment of a symphony - desperate to get some FM radio airplay. Which in many ways is why I remember Giant For A Day! as a complete abomination |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 12:54
I love VDGG's second and third albums.   1970: Van der Graaf Generator - The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNuUilJm-b2csXdNoaBVzfCvJFuEhYIfo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNuUilJm-b2csXdNoaBVzfCvJFuEhYIfo 1970: Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQR6e_wpeiY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQR6e_wpeiY |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 13:07
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I'll just mention one album: Van der Graaf Generator - ALT ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 13:19
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"Albums We Love to Hate from Artists We Love" My approach is quite different as I certainly mostly just love some albums from a huge number of artists, and don't think much about the rest of it - at least when talking about what I love.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 13:26
nice to see that ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 13:28
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Just off the top of my head: 1. Yes: Union 2. Genesis: Calling All Stations 3. Saga: Generation 13 4. Alan Parsons Project: Eve/Ammonia Avenue (tie) 5. Moody Blues: The Other Side of Life/Sur La Mer (tie) 6. Steve Hackett: Blues with a Feeling 7. E.L.P.: In the Hot Seat 8. Barclay James Harvest: Victims of Circumstance 9. Pink Floyd: The Wall 10. Marillion: Fugazi
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 13:33
Half of those albums are in my CD collection.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 13:56
Fugazi, eh? It's one of the two Marillion albums I like. Union is better than some other Yes albums, too, but I realize it's subjective. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 15:00
Can't say I hate any album but Dream Theater's "The Astonishing" was not for me. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 15:42
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^ Soft Machine's Land of Cockayne and National Health's debut are just the prescription I need.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 17:04
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I hadn't listed Tangerine Dream earlier, but in fact I was a huge fan of them (and still am up to the point where they lost me) but the double whammy of Tyger and Optical Race (after a few albums in 84-86 that had not exactly been top notch either) made me lose interest in any further work. It took me some 30 years from 1988 before touching anything more recent of them. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 17:17
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 17:35
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Land of Cockayne also disappoints. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 17:36
These guys need more cowbell too, or they'll be wearing gold-plated diapers! (whatever that means). |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 17:45
Optical Race had such potential, and does have some nice material, but the duds and the soundbanks from the multiple D-50/550 units really bring everything down. At least we got one stunner with Edgar on guitar in "Sun Gate"! What do you not like in '84-86? All tops, IMO, especially Poland. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 18:32
Poland and Underwater Sunlight are fine even though I don't listen remotely as often to them as to what came before, Le Parc less so, I mean it has some good stuff but is more superficial than earlier work, and I'm not a fan of Firestarter and Heartbreakers, which are much weaker than earlier soundtracks. The latter three are still enjoyable to some extent but three stars max for me (in fact also Underwater Sunlight which is good but hasn't anything really exciting on it). They churned out some further soundtracks in these years that I don't know. I see that Underwater Sunlight has an average rating higher than any album between Exit and Hyperborea, but I think all four of these are quite a bit stronger.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 04 2023 at 21:01
Up to and including Underwater Sunlight I think TD were still putting out good stuff. Agree what you said earlier about Tyger, after that it was a slippery slope that followed. Edgar decided to shoe horn his son into the band in the early 90's and that didn't help matters imo. After Franke and Haslinger left it was Tangerine Dream in name only.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 05:01
Land of Cockayne is a beauty. I prefer it to Bundles. But then again I prefer Fourth over both of them (and really like Missing Pieces)
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Posted By: edefakiel
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 05:09
Man, it is hard to think that you can enjoy A Valid Path, The Endless River, Calling All Stations, The Single Factor, Metallic Spheres... I feel shivers.
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Posted By: ledzepfan63
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 09:04
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hot space by queen is a good lp,yet misunderstood
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 09:12
I don't know if "misunderstood" is the right word here to describe the album, I wouldn't say it's a good album and I've always liked it (if that makes sense
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 09:19
Guitarist Nuno Bettencourt cites Hot Space as one of Queen's better albums, and on a positive note, it includes Under Pressure too. |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 09:33
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IQ - Resistance - I keep trying with it but it just bores me for maybe 70% of the album - love the rest of their albums Marillion - Somewhere Else (or, as I like to call it, Wish I Was Listening To Something Else); although Radiation is pretty much on a (low) par Dream Theater - The Astonishing ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 10:19
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I don't tend to find these kinds of lists at all edifying. I came across an Ad for a T-shirt with a bear and the expression 'I Prefer Their Earlier Stuff' which I think says it all really, but some stand outs for me would include: Hawkwind: PXR-5 Renaissance: Time Line BJH: Victims Of Circumstance Camel: The Single Factor Yes: Open Your Eyes ELO: Balance Of Power (it really was awful) Genesis: Calling All Stations Rush: Vapor Trails (does nothing for me, whatsoever....) Moody Blues: The Other Side Of Life Marillion: .Com (at least Radiation was vaguely listable to... this one is where me and Marillion parted ways) And I'll also throw in as extras, because I really don't know what either band were thinking: Dream Theater: The Astonishing Therion: Beloved Antichrist |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 11:25
Resistance bored me the first five listens. Now, I adore it.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 11:34
I've read that quite a few have struggled with Resistance, or at least one side of it or the other... it bemuses me a little as I see it as just being a natural progression from ROB... Somewhere Else, I have never heard... kind of fell out of love with Marillion 20 years back and although I occasionally listen to their old stuff, I've never really picked up with them again. The Astonishing.... well, for me it truly is yawn inducing.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 11:37
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I'm fine with Hot Space overall, the main "crime" probably being that it is more pop than rock. Listening to it on its own premises, I think there are some rather intriguing moments, especially "Action This Day", "Cool Cat" and even "Body Language". The latter has a noir feel to it that actually fascinates me. I would also prefer it to, say, The Miracle at any time. What you can say is, you can sense in the music, that not everything was well within the band, and especially Brian May's contributions sound half hearted. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 12:03
Firestarter is spectacular, IMO. The compositions are excellent (not that far removed from Hyperborea, just shorter tracks), and their tech was all top-line, with every important piece available at the time (the inner sleeve of Poland provides a convenient list of much of what they were using at the time). Juicy sounds galore! I love Underwater Sunlight, especially the first side. Edgar's guitar solo is beautifully emotive. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 12:05
I agree. I don't know if May's contributions are half-hearted, but I read that May and Taylor were rather miserable while working on this album. If I remember right, May wrote Put Out the Fire and Las Palabras de Amor, Dancer and did a great guitar solo (IMO) for Back Chat. Taylor wrote Action This Day and Calling All Girls. Deacon and Freddie wrote a lot for the album. As far as I know, Under Pressure was a collective effort. I read it was expected of them to write songs in the style of their famous hit Another One Bites the Dust. Oh, and Cool cat is awesome.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 12:07
Tyger was an experiment, but a successful one compared to subsequent efforts that involved a vocalist (like Madcap's Flaming Duty and Under Cover). Plus, the three instrumentals are very good.
Up to a point, but Edgar got his mojo back in the 2000s. EDIT: Some good albums happened in the '90s: Quinoa, Goblins Club, Oasis (a soundtrack).
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 12:08
I listened to the Derek W. Dick albums NON-STOP throughout the 1980s. Now they all leave me ice cold. Union is the only Yes album I've ever parted ways with. I liked it at first, it has three decent songs, but it didn't last with me. There are a number of other Yes albums I've never purchased/listened to because I was warned ahead of time (Open Your Eyes, etc.).
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 12:15
The good material on Union is good. I didn't like the majority of Talk and never went past the title track of OYE. Keys to Ascension felt like real Yes again...because it was. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 12:39
For me, 'KeyStudio' is easily the best Yes album since 1977....
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 16:40
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@verslibre: As I love Tangerine Dream I like that you defend even the work that I don't find so convincing. True fandom isn't really for me but I appreciate your efforts anyway. Of course in the end it all comes down to taste, but who knows, I may give some stuff another try that you say is better than I remember it is (I haven't listened to Firestarter and Tyger for 30+ years, but I did spin Underwater Sunlight & Poland again fairly recently). I find Stuntman AWESOME, so your avatar already gives you lots of credit. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 05 2023 at 17:24
I used to be a lot harder on them, especially when Jerome joined. The 90s are universally regarded as their worst decade. Going back to the late 1980s, I'm split on Optical Race and Lily on the Beach; the former's best tracks are better than the latter's, but LotB's gears come to a grinding halt once you get to "Radio City," i.e., Jerome's first appearance. (The album proceeds to disappoint as it plays out, almost like a spell was cast.) While Chris and Johannes were there, they kicked so much rear! Like I said in my reply to Richard, it took a while for Edgar to get his groove back, and it happened when (wait for it) Jerome exited and Edgar's protégé Thorsten Q. took the reins. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 06 2023 at 03:29
| I do like a lot of later Tangerine Dream (Finnegan's Wake and Views From A Red Train especially) but the band seriously lost it's way after about 1988. It was very hard to take stuff like Valentine Wheels and Melrose seriously. I agree Goblins Club is good and also worth a mention as is Seven Letters From Tibet. I also enjoy the trilogy of releases based on Dante's works especially Purgatorio. I even stumped up for the box set after saying I wouldn't! |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 06 2023 at 03:42
| ^ The reason I didn't mention Tangerine Dream is that while I do love the 14-15 albums or so that I own - in total I've heard more albums by them that I really didn't enjoy. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 06 2023 at 04:01
I wasn't thinking of Metallic Spheres, which is more of an Orb album than a David Gilmour album.
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