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Topic: Greatest Left-Winged Songs?
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Subject: Greatest Left-Winged Songs?
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 06:27
Pink Floyd - Us and Them (and a ton more)
The Doors - Five to One
John Lennon - Imagine
Supertramp - The Logical Song
Roger Waters - Is This The Life We Really Want?


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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 06:31


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 06:41
how is Logical Song left wing? Confused


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 06:44
 Is Us and Them particularly left-wing? I thought it was more anti-war.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 07:20


Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 07:22
Robert Wyatt - Shipbuilding


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 07:43
The Chinese communist song is the only real left wing song here along with the ode to Lennon.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 08:17
Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Supertramp - The Logical Song
 
Mr Spock - The Illogical Song Smile
 


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 08:59
So many to choose from. Here's a few:

Alice's Restaurant - Arlo Guthrie
For What it's Worth - Buffalo Springfield
The Times They are A-Changing - Bob Dylan
Volunteers - Jefferson Airplane
US Blues - Grateful Dead
Lives in the Balance - Jackson Brown
Fortunate Son - CCR


Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 09:56
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

 Is Us and Them particularly left-wing? I thought it was more anti-war.


Same thing :)

There's more to it. Power. Conformity. Corruption. Racism.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 10:59
Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 11:18
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.
Correct my friend.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 11:20
Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

 Is Us and Them particularly left-wing? I thought it was more anti-war.


Same thing :)

There's more to it. Power. Conformity. Corruption. Racism.
Hitler was a racist and a socialist, Mao and Stalin were not anti-war, Right wingers can be anti conformity, anti power and anti corruption.


Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 13:10
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

 Is Us and Them particularly left-wing? I thought it was more anti-war.


Same thing :)

There's more to it. Power. Conformity. Corruption. Racism.
Hitler was a racist and a socialist, Mao and Stalin were not anti-war, Right wingers can be anti conformity, anti power and anti corruption.


Not to get off-topic, but Hitler was a fascist. Mao and Stalin were not Communists, either. One minute Mussolini called himself a Socialist, and then being an opportunist, started the Fascist Party. Just look up the political definitions. Communism (and capitalism) has never happened.


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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 13:15
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 14:27
Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.
I'm sorry but you make no sense. Do you realize it was left wing Democratic presidents JFK and LBJ that started and excellerated the US involvement in Vietnam? l'm afraid that you have a very warped view of American history and it's political factions.

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 14:38
Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.
Your post is full of wrong information, but I'll just start with the worst. You say "Stalin and Mao were not Communists". What!?!?!


Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 16:17
To answer an earlier question about left/anti-war... It's because the working-class are the ones who fight and die on both sides so industrialists can get richer.

And no, YOU don't make sense... LBJ - a left-winger? Gimme a break... Was that before or after he called to abolish private property? Changing the modes of production? The workers taking over.

Get a dictionary, man. Otherwise, you're talking bullsh*t.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 17:42
Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

To answer an earlier question about
left/anti-war... It's because the working-class are the ones who fight
and die on both sides so industrialists can get richer.

And no, YOU don't make sense... LBJ - a left-winger? Gimme a break... Was that before or after he called to abolish private property? Changing the modes of production? The workers taking over.

Get a dictionary, man. Otherwise, you're talking bullsh*t.
If you're getting your info from a dictionary that explains why you're lost. No American president did more to advance social and racial progress after the Civil War than LBJ. The social reforms that intiated what he called The Great Society. Please do yourself a favor and read up on this in the proper resources, like a history book. Not a dictionary.

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 18:10
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.
Your post is full of wrong information, but I'll just start with the worst. You say "Stalin and Mao were not Communists". What!?!?!
Lets move on to your second bit of misinformation. Fascist and socialist are not mutually exclusive terms and Hitler was both a fascist and a socialist. The official name for the Nazis was the National Socialist Workers Party.
Also, referring to your answer to Steve, LBJ is not in the dictionary.


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 18:46
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.
Your post is full of wrong information, but I'll just start with the worst. You say "Stalin and Mao were not Communists". What!?!?!
Lets move on to your second bit of misinformation. Fascist and socialist are not mutually exclusive terms and Hitler was both a fascist and a socialist. The official name for the Nazis was the National Socialist Workers Party.
Also, referring to your answer to Steve, LBJ is not in the dictionary.

I did my thesis on this exact subject in 1975! Finally , someone who has read history! The difference between a pundit/blogger/commentator and a historian is that the latter seeks out both or multiple sides of the issue , "Le pour et le contre" in French and then synthesizes (it is a prog site after all) into a factual, unbiased essay. Fascist and Socialist have been the 2 sides of the same coin for centuries and to think that in this "enlightened" 21st century, that we still have ONLY two vulgar failures to root for or against is another sign of our small pettiness in this 'Internet is my psychiatrist' age. To prove the point , the new twist is to play with labels , saying that this is not fascism and this is not communism! LABELS that only prove that the point is actually COMMON-ism , aka Same ole crapola since Eden. The amount of lying, deceit, omission, deception and misrepresentation online is monstrous. The only left wing and right wing that matters are on birds, it helps them fly.....


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 19:15
From the British-American area I would pick several early Dylan songs, and a lot of songs from The Clash - Sandinista.

Left-wing rock was very dominant in Scandinavia in the 1970's. In Denmark the most famous band was probably Røde Mor (Red Mother). One of my favourites is this moving song to Salvador Allende:




Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 02 2020 at 19:26
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Why are anti war songs considered left wing? Songs that propose socialist reforms and pro union stances are left wing. For those you have to go back to Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger singing songs like Union Maid. Most of the songs listed above are "protest songs" and don't always conform to some ideology.


You're right - Guthrie and Seeger are the best examples, but things changed in the decades to come. You had the entire country behind WWII, but with Vietnam, it was the first time a large part of the country was against the war. I think that was the big issue of the day, and with that war and all its financial cost, there could be no funding of "The Great Society".

Chronologically speaking, you wouldn't have protest songs after we had real change with FDR, for example. After Truman's Taft-Hartley Act, there wasn't a revival among folk singers about unions. We only had Jimmy Hoffa, another misunderstood man. Stupid movies being referenced as history drives me crazy, because it's what people remember the most.
Your post is full of wrong information, but I'll just start with the worst. You say "Stalin and Mao were not Communists". What!?!?!
Lets move on to your second bit of misinformation. Fascist and socialist are not mutually exclusive terms and Hitler was both a fascist and a socialist. The official name for the Nazis was the National Socialist Workers Party.
Also, referring to your answer to Steve, LBJ is not in the dictionary.


I did my thesis on this exact subject in 1975! Finally , someone who has read history! The difference between a pundit/blogger/commentator and a historian is that the latter seeks out both or multiple sides of the issue , "Le pour et le contre" in French and then synthesizes (it is a prog site after all) into a factual, unbiased essay. Fascist and Socialist have been the 2 sides of the same coin for centuries and to think that in this "enlightened" 21st century, that we still have ONLY two vulgar failures to root for or against is another sign of our small pettiness in this 'Internet is my psychiatrist' age. To prove the point , the new twist is to play with labels , saying that this is not fascism and this is not communism! LABELS that only prove that the point is actually COMMON-ism , aka Same ole crapola since Eden. The amount of lying, deceit, omission, deception and misrepresentation online is monstrous. The only left wing and right wing that matters are on birds, it helps them fly.....


I believe it's safer to say that there is always an overlap of some ideologies with no black or white separations between what we deem to be left and right wing.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 08:46
I don't klnow about 'left wing'...but these two songs always resonated with me aboiut social justice and anti- war and right wing ideas... ...one in '69 when I graduated high school and the other when I was in college......






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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 08:52
Another fine one...




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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 09:06
My favourite left-wing song from Mother Russia Thumbs Up
 
The Waterboys - Red Army Blues
 


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 09:15
nothing beats this:


and of course the songs of the German band Ton, Steine, Scherben (German for "Clay, Stones, Shards"). the names of two of their songs, "Keine Macht für Niemand" ("No Power for No-one") and "Macht kaputt was euch kaputt macht" ("Break what breaks you") became left-wing slogans in Germany in the 70s







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Posted By: Umeda
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 09:52
If "The Logical Song" is left-wing song, then perhaps "Working Man" is too?

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 10:41
^Neither are 'left wing' imo and many of the ones posted aren't what we would consider hard core 'left wing' either...but they were anti war and social commentary back then, ..I lived then...graduated high school and started colled in '69...I recall those days pretty well.



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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 12:45
You're not supposed to remember the 60s Doc

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 13:51


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 14:01
Free bird! Big smile


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 14:04
^ Not sure anything Lynyrd Skynard does would be considered "left wing". ( Bird puns aside)


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 14:10
Power to the people- John Lennon
The power of equality - Red Hot Chilipeppers
Fight the power - Public Enemy
The age of self - Robert Wyatt
Sci Finance(revisited) - Peter Hammill
Sun City Night life - Peter Hammill (anti apartheid song)
Big Money - Rush (to me it's left wing anyway because any song that calls out "big money" more or less is)
Don't kill the whale -Yes (how many right wing conservatives work for green peace?)



Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 14:13
Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

^ Not sure anything Lynyrd Skynard does would be considered "left wing". ( Bird puns aside)

Mostly for the pun plus the fact that people always call out for it at concerts. More of a joke than anything else. Left wing folks believe in freedom and right wingers just think they do. So it could be interpreted either way although it's very unlikely LS were left wing.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 03 2020 at 16:04
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

You're not supposed to remember the 60s Doc

I don't remember all of it....sadly it's much of the best bits I can't recall.
LOL


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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: December 04 2020 at 03:26
Most songs by Midnight Oil.

Oh, and the obvious Part of The Union by The Strawbs.



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