Sea of Tranquility Album Rankings
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Topic: Sea of Tranquility Album Rankings
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Sea of Tranquility Album Rankings
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 11:54
In view of the recent interest shown towards Pete Pardo's entertaining and informative album reviews on his Sea of Tranquility YouTube channel, I thought it was about time he had his own thread on ProgArchives, where The Endless River of Progressive Rock album reviews and listings can be collected together in one place, starting with Pink Floyd - and why not.  Pete Pardo's Pink Floyd album rankings My Pink Floyd album rankings and PA ratings 1. Animals 1. The Division Bell  2. Dark Side of the Moon 2. Dark Side of the Moon 3. Wish You Were Here 3. Wish You Were Here  4. Meddle 4. The Endless River 5. Obscured by Clouds 5. A Momentary Lapse of Reason 6. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 6. The Wall 7. A Saucerful of Secrets 7. Atom Heart Mother 8. Ummagumma 8. Animals 9. Atom Heart Mother 9. Meddle 10. The Wall 10. A Saucerful of Secrets 11. A Momentary Lapse of Reason 11. Obscured by Clouds 12. The Division Bell 12. More 13. More 13. The Final Cut  14. The Endless River 14. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 15. The Final Cut 15. Ummagumma
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 11:56
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Ok, I'm jumping ship! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 11:59
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SteveG wrote:Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 12:01
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Regarding Mr Pardo, he doesn't need PA to promote his you tube channel unless of course he wants to pay us a fee. But then Paul is probably getting a kick back.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 12:14
I Wish You Were Here to see the smile on my face. Anyway, which list comes closest to your own ranking of Pink Floyd albums? Mine or Pete Pardo's?
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 12:37
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I like Pete's videos, they're a lot of fun. Anyway, my PF ranking are closer to Pete's but I would move Division Bell & the Wall up higher
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 12:43
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Quite how The Division Bell can be ranked above Animals on your list is utterly beyond me.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 12:44
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Peter's ranking makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than your bizarre posting. ;) ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 12:50
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But is this like an appreciation thread or it has an archiving purpose? |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 12:58
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 13:10
I suspect many people here will agree with you, although my "bizarre" album rankings won't come as a surprise to anyone who knows me.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 14:05
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I'm bizarre too. I rank Ummagumma as their third best album. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 15:16
I love the live part of Ummagumma, but I think the album's badly let down by some of the weird studio tracks, such as the bizarrely titled "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict"
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 15:18
hand over you psychedelic badge.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 15:21
Ummagumma is too far out, even for my psychedelic tastes.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 15:22
what about Piper and Saucerful?
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 15:34
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Good Lord!! Who has the time to compare your list to Pete's list and then to Paul's list and then to everyone else's list???????? By the time your done Pink Floyd will have regrouped and recorded a new album, which of course is never, so hence..... I like watching Pete's videos.......that's all. I have music to listen to. -------------   
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 15:44
In my top 3. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 15:50
A Saucerful of Secrets is a good solid 4-star album for me, but I've ranked The Piper at the Gates of Dawn as a 3-star album, mainly because there's no David Gilmour on the album and I'm not a big fan of Syd Barrett.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 16:32
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Pete Pardo's rankings for the studio albums of Camel - My Camel album rankings and PA ratings 1. Mirage 1. Moonmadness 2. The Snow Goose 2. Rajaz 3. Moonmadness 3. Mirage 4. Camel 4. Nude 5. Rain Dances 5. Rain Dances 6. Breathless 6. Stationary Traveller 7. Nude 7. Harbour of Tears 8. I Can See Your House from Here 8. Camel 9. The Single Factor 9. Dust and Dreams 10. Stationary Traveller 10. Breathless 11. Harbour of Tears 11. I Can See Your House from Here 12. Rajaz 12. The Snow Goose 13. A Nod and a Wink 13. A Nod and a Wink 14. Dust and Dreams 14. The Single Factor |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 17:13
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He did those late career albums dirty, Rajaz is easily one of their best, surprised he doesn't love it.
1: Moonmadness 2: Rajaz 3: Mirage 4: Snow Goose 5: Rain Dances 6: Breathless 7: Harbour of Tears 8: Camel 9: A Nod and a Wink 10: Nude 11: Stationary Traveller 12: Dust and Dreams 13: Single Factor 14: I Can See Your House From Here These are all good albums, only one Camel song I don't like and it's Remote Romance ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 17:51
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^ Your Camel album rankings are very similar to mine - with an identical Top 3 - and Remote Romance is the only Camel song I dislike too. Also, I was surprised Pete Pardo ranks The Single Factor album higher than the Rajaz album.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 19:44
Yeah, the live part is great, but many times when I pull the album out I go straight to the studio tracks. Even though the band themselves might think what they made was rubbish (as I think Waters and Mason have said publicly) and Gilmour was apparently bullsh*tting his way through his portion, I think this stuff was wonderfully creative. If I was rich and had a time machine, I would have gone back in time and paid them loads of money to make 10 more albums worth of Ummagumma studio tracks at the risk of ruining the Pink Floyd timeline and having a run-in with Doctor Who. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 19:47
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I still haven't listened to every Camel album, but Moonmadness would be my favorite as well. Lunar Sea is just a wonderful song. Another Night is another song that doesn't get its due credit in my opinion. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 16:53
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Pete Pardo's Yes album rankings My Yes album rankings and PA ratings 1. Close to the Edge 1. The Ladder 2. Relayer 2. Talk 3. The Yes Album 3. Going for the One 4. Fragile 4. Close to the Edge 5. Going for the One 5. The Yes Album 6. Drama 6. Fly from Here 7. Tales from Topographic Oceans 7. Magnification 8. 90125 8. Tales from Topographic Oceans 9. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe 9. 90125 10. Time and a Word 10. Fragile 11. Tormato 11. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe 12. Yes 12. Relayer 13. Big Generator 13. Time and a Word 14. Talk 14. Yes 15. Union 15. Heaven & Earth 16. The Ladder 16. Drama 17. Magnification 17. Tormato 18. Fly from Here 18. Union 19. Heaven & Earth 19. Open Your Eyes 20. Open Your Eyes 20. Big Generator |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 17:07
Rain Dances should be at the top! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 20 2020 at 18:27
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I think I would go something like this for Yes: 1. Relayer 2. Close to the Edge 3. Keystudio 4. Drama 5. Fragile 6. Going for the One 7. The Yes Album 8. Fly From Here 9. Magnification 10. Tales from Topographic Oceans 11. Tormato 12. Time and a Word 13. ABWH 14. 90125 15. Yes 16. Heaven & Earth 17. The Ladder 18. Talk 19. Big Generator 20. Union 21. Open Your Eyes ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 00:33
Excellent list there`s a few i`d change around ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 00:40
You`ve totally blown me away with your list of albums as some of the more iconic albums are so not in the higher chart rating, and is number 11 a YES Album and both lists placing "TALES" so low 7/8 ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 01:54
@ Paul I don't know why I need to say it, but that Yes ranking of yours is one of the weirdest lists I've ever seen on PA.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 01:55
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^ As others have said, Pete Pardo's album rankings make a lot more sense than my bizarre album rankings, but that's okay. I've never been one to go along with the crowd. I can guarantee my album rankings are 100% genuine though and I'm not deliberately trying to court controversy. On the subject of the Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe album, it's included in both of our listings as it's considered by many Yes fans (including Pete Pardo & I) to be a Yes album in all but name. I'll have Sea of Tranquility's rankings for Genesis' albums coming up next, so it'll be interesting to see how much they differ from mine again.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 08:22
Yes weirdest EVER on PA... ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 08:26
Ok all but name hmm there`s TWO members missing because Bruford left so ex-member as for Genesis i`ll be interested in your list... ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 08:44
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^ I've now added my PA star ratings to my album rankings, although it probably doesn't make my listings look any less weird.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 11:27
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Pete Pardo's Genesis album rankings My Genesis album rankings and PA ratings 1. Foxtrot 1. Selling England by the Pound 2. Selling England by the Pound 2. Foxtrot 3. Nursery Cryme 3. Nursery Cryme 4. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 4. Trespass 5. Trespass 5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 6. A Trick of the Tail 6. A Trick of the Tail 7. Wind & Wuthering 7. Wind & Wuthering 8. Duke 8. From Genesis to Revelation 9. And Then There Were Three 9. And Then There Were Three 10. Abacab 10. Duke 11. Genesis 11. Invisible Touch 12. Invisible Touch 12. Abacab 13. From Genesis to Revelation 13. Genesis 14. We Can't Dance 14. We Can't Dance  15. Calling All Stations 15. Calling All Stations |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 11:36
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Well at least your Genesis rankings are saner. I'm actually closer to you than Peter. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 11:53
That's true. It's the first time our album rankings have even come close, and the only Genesis album ranking we really disagree on significantly is their debut album. We actually agreed on the exact placing of six albums in the list and we have the same albums in our Top 7, which surprised me.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 19:50
| Everybody calls it differently. I like Pete Pardo because he's fun and I don't pay much attention to his ratings. Music is taken too seriously by some people, especially by a few who subscribe to Prog Rock. If people could relax a little more and not take themselves too seriously the world would be a better place. Pete Pardo is one who doesn't take himself seriously and that's why I like him. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 20:02
And how many times have Pink Floyd played music off the studio tracks of Ummagumma live in concert? Not even Nick Mason's band, which plays the early music of Pink Floyd, plays this music. That's telling us all that Ummagumma isn't a very good album except for the live material.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 21 2020 at 21:30
I completely disagree with that assessment. I judge the music by listening to it, not whether a band plays it live or not. That doesn't seem like a very creative way of using your brain. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 02:00
Your list is almost my own list couple of changes here and there and i`d only give CAS  ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 02:26
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^ I initially gave We Can't Dance & Calling All Stations 3-star ratings, but I think I was being overly-generous in retrospect. I'll have Pete Pardo's Sea of Tranquility rankings for Renaissance' albums coming up next.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 07:31
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Pete Pardo's Renaissance album rankings My Renaissance album rankings and PA ratings 1. Turn of the Cards 1. Ashes Are Burning 2. Ashes Are Burning 2. Turn of the Cards 3. Scheherazade & Other Stories 3. A Song for All Seasons 4. Novella 4. Scheherazade & Other Stories 5. Prologue 5. Novella 6. A Song for All Seasons 6. Prologue 7. Renaissance 7. Symphony of Light 8. Azure d'Or 8. Azure d'Or 9. Symphony of Light 9. Renaissance 10. Tuscany 10. Tuscany 11. Illusion 11. Illusion 12. Camera Camera 12. Camera Camera 13. Time-Line 13. Time-Line
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 10:05
My list is a carbon copy of your list @Psychedelic Paul ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 10:50
That's quite an extraordinary Turn of the Cards that we both have identical album listings.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 12:34
Yes it’s trippy and mind blowing construction mind meld ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 22 2020 at 19:04
Personally I prefer to use my brain appreciating music that bands poured their creative energies into that didn't get the critical acclaim that the music deserved. Just a pity that a lot of people worship the big 4-6 Prog bands, even their lesser works like Ummagumma, while so many other less known bands are producing great albums that few people are listening to.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 03:46
Soooorrry, but I've got the only lifesaving boat on this Titanic and I'm not rowing backwards towards the shipwreck. PP, is this about your ego matching Pardo's??  |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 04:09
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 04:19
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^ I'll have some more ego-boosting rankings coming up soon for Queen's albums.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 05:44
The music doesn't help. I could never get along with someone with no sense of style. And Pardo's hair is from the 70s. Yuck.  ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 05:49
picking on someone's looks is lame to be honest. Pick on his opinions if you will, not his looks.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 06:30
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 08:21
Well, for a guy above 40, (I'd give him between 55 & 60), he's still got hairs (and plenty), which is a lot more than many can say.  He should fix that tooth, though. This said, I just quickly ffwd through his Renaissance appraisal and find him indeed fairly shallow: not only is he not sure about what he's saying, he's reading the tracks or participants (he's even mentionning drummer Slade - instead of Sullivan) and almost totally disregarding the ex-Yardbirds line-up (does he even own them at all?) not even showing the albums, as opposed to those crappy 80's and 00's albums, which he obviously owns. How can someone knowing so little about a band's embryonic days can be assessing them correctly? It's not just a question of tastes (and publishing them), but a question of credibility: - I mean the Yardbirds "were still looking around and trying to find the Renaissance style"?? Looks like the Dunford-Haslam duo never tried any further in that case, because they owe everything to the MkI line-up. - Tout one of the best bassist? Weeeelllllllllllllllll, he owes eveything to Cennamo. - AFAIK,Tatcher wasn't involved in the band in the early days. I'd hate to hear his appraisal of other bands.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 09:43
And his hair does suck. The 70s keep calling to get it back. ;)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 09:47
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^ he sometimes makes mistakes in his videos nevertheless he's channel is pretty good, he still introduces people to a lot of music, he's passionate and the mistakes he makes can be forgiven.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:03
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Pete Pardo's Queen album rankings My Queen album rankings and PA ratings 1. A Night at the Opera 1. A Night at the Opera 2. Queen 2. Queen II 3. Sheer Heart Attack 3. Sheer Heart Attack 4. Queen II 4. Queen 5. A Day at the Races 5. Innuendo 6. Jazz 6. A Day at the Races 7. News of the World 7. News of the World 8. The Game 8. A Kind of Magic 9. Innuendo 9. The Works 10. The Works 10. Made in Heaven 11.A Kind of Magic 11. Queen + Paul Rodgers: The Cosmos Rocks 12. The Miracle 12. The Miracle 13. Queen + Paul Rodgers: The Cosmos Rocks 13. Jazz 14. Made in Heaven 14. The Game 15. Hot Space 15. Hot Space
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:03
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If he's introducing people to new music on you tube ..that's great, but I don't see why Prog Archives and Paul should be promoting his channel here for free since he no doubt makes money fron his you tube channel. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:04
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Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:06
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:11
I don't know why Paul is promoting SoT either, you'll have to ask him. You're his buddy, he's gonna tell you.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:13
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:13
Does that mean you're not my buddy any more?
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:15
I've been watching his videos for quite sometime now, and what I have thought about based on many of his comments on his "lists" is that he does not have intimate experience with all of it. Especially the albums in his list that are less than popular, those are the ones he has not much to say about in detail. We all own "krappy" albums but because we own them we know why they are krappy, rather than going to the WWW to find out, which is what I think he might be doing in some cases. Now buying all these albums in CD format is super cheap....It would make sense if he goes ahead and spends $10 and buys 6-8 CDs of a band to legitimize his claims. I don't have a problem with him reading notes, for him to review a band like Yes with so many albums you would need notes. It's the content I have question on, it seems too basic and no details with his critique of certain albums. But I guess in this age of the internet......it must all be true. -------------
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:15
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:16
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:17
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Seriously, you two are like an old married couple! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:19
Some people here have suggested Cristi & I are so close that we should get a room together.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:21
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:21
that's already an insult so stop
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:22
again, stop |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:28
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The Least We Can Do is listen to what Pete Pardo has to say about Van der Graaf Generator, which will be coming up next, while there's Still Life in this thread.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:30
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It's a bit of fun, he's not setting the world on fire, but he's promoting prog whether it's the music, his youtube channel, or SOT. To my mind we should be supporting him rather than dissing him. There's few enough of us out there and we can all use all the support we can get. And really going after his hair? God I wish I still had some. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:37
I wish I had as much hair as Pete Pardo too.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:43
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:47
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 10:55
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For the record, I'm only joking about his hair. Some of my best friends look like they just came out of 1975. It's a musicians curse. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 11:20
@ Paul first 4 places I get it but starting number 5, I disagree. Innuendo, as much as I like it, ahead of 70s albums , no way.The album with Paul Rodgers is too high and ahead of Jazz and The Game?! Again, no way. Jazz is too low, there are some fantastic rockers on that album, those songs alone make me rank it much higher. I would put Hot Space ahead o the album with Rodgers and Made in Heaven. There, I said it.  |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 12:27
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^ That's fair enough. You have your opinion and I have mine, and I know you're not a big fan of the Made in Heaven album. At least Pete Pardo & I pretty much agree on the Top 4 Queen albums, as well as Hot Space being our least favourite album.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 12:35
well, obviously we have different opinions, I got no problem with that. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 13:00
Yeah, didn't mean to come down on Pardo or SoT. They're defending the cause, no matter at what level.
Yeah (again), but it's just that he should maybe get a peak at the ratings on dedicated sites, instezad or purely relying on his (sometimes insufficent) knowledge ... and tastes I just looked at Pardo's list posted by PP, and TBH, outside Renaissance (the MKI dissing) and some odd choices in Floyd's discography, I generally +/- agree with his preferences order in his list.
hey, some of us remain eternal teenagers and simply age more gracefully than others
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 13:30
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:06
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Pete Pardo's Van der Graaf Generator album rankings - My VDGG album rankings and PA ratings 1. Pawn Hearts 1. The Least We Can Do... 2. Godbluff 2. H to He, Who Am the Only One 3. H to He, Who Am the Only One 3. The Aerosol Grey Machine 4. The Least We Can Do is Wave to Each Other 4. Godbluff 5. Still Life 5. Still Life 6. World Record 6. World Record 7. Do Not Disturb 7. The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome 8. The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome 8. Pawn Hearts 9. Trisector 9. Trisector 10. A Grounding in Numbers 10. Do Not Disturb 11. The Aerosol Grey Machine 11. A Grounding in Numbers 12. Present 12. ALT 13. ALT 13. Present
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:09
I agree, and I still watch him regularly. I'm not insinuating he is lying, just that a small % of the time seems like he is not too well versed like he really has not listened to the album in question or it may have been a long time ago or just going off memory. I like Pete, he's pretty genuine to me and I like he has guest interviews......To me his new reviews are more in-depth, not a big fan of Top Album lists. -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:17
I don't think anybody is bashing the guy, at least I don't read any posts like that. Some of us just made a comment about his content in Top Album lists. Regardless, you put yourself on the internet like that and you open yourself up for critique, positive and negative. He does a lot of reviews on progressive/prog music, which is great. But for me I prefer his new album reviews because then I know he is well versed and listened to the album probably several times. When he does a Top Album list with 10 albums, that's about 100 hours of music to review. If I wait another 2 months I suspect my hair will look like his except mine is still pretty much black......  -------------
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Posted By: grantman
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:31
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1.dark side of the moon 2.the wall 3.meddle 4.the division bell 5.more 6.obsured by clouds 7.atom heart mother 8.animals 9.the final cut 10.wish you were here 11.umma gumma 12.piper at the gates of dawn |
Posted By: grantman
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:33
| Too many genres on pardo,s shows i find, |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:42
Ummagumma and Piper at the Gates of Dawn are at the bottom of my Pink Floyd listings too, although I'm surprised to see Wish You Were Here near the bottom of your list.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:48
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Psycho your VDGG rankings look deliberately ridiculous, Least and H to He as 5 star but Pawn Heart as a 2 star is barking. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 14:56
My VDGG album rankings are absolutely genuine, and with the exception of Pawn Hearts (which I've never liked) and The Aerosol Grey Machine, they're very close to Pete Pardo's rankings.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 15:04
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Ian, I can understand someone not liking Pawn Hearts. Plague is easy enough, but Man-Erg and Lemmings really require that extra-clic to get it. I doubt PP will one day "get" those two tracks, though, but can only tell him to keep trying.
Yeah (once again), but indeed, one has to wonder if he's not spreading himself a little thin, so he should prepare more in thowse top lists. I also think that he should go a litttle deeper by presenting the albums in a chronological order first, than secondly give us his order of preference afterwards.
Indeed the critique is more about the substance of his top list for XYZ. His hairdo reminds me much of UZ's Daniel Denis, actually
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 15:18
I've listened to Pawn Hearts three times now, so I doubt if I'll ever "get" that album if I listen to it for a fourth time. The only positive thing I can say about Pawn Hearts, is it's my favourite out of the six VDGG albums I've rated with two stars.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 15:31
You might "get it" three years from now. Sometimes it happens that way. I'm "getting" things sooner that I used to. I can't tell you how many years it took me to "get" bathroom spray. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 15:44
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^ I bought the two 1970 VDGG albums last Christmas without even hearing them first, after reading some of the rave reviews on ProgArchives, but from my point of view, it's a good thing I didn't buy the Pawn Hearts album instead, or that might have put me off Van der Graaf Generator for life. King Crimson are another band I have a hard time getting into, and I'll have Pete Pardo's King Crimson album rankings coming up next.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 16:00
Or this dude.....  -------------
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 16:11
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Pete Hairdo ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 16:34
Steve Howdo
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 16:56
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I would be lying if I said was not interested in Don Pardo's KC rankings. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 23 2020 at 19:08
I'll have about as much interest in what he has to say as a plague of lighthouses.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 24 2020 at 02:24
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Pete Pardo's King Crimson album rankings My King Crimson album rankings & PA ratings 1. Red 1. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. In the Wake of Poseidon 3. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 3. Red 4. Starless and Bible Black 4. Islands 5. In the Wake of Poseidon 5. Lizard 6. Discipline 6. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 7.Lizard 7. Starless and Bible Black 8. Islands 8. The Power to Believe 9. Beat 9. THRAK 10. THRAK 10. The ConstruKction of Light 11. Three of a Perfect Pair 11. Three of a Perfect Pair 12. The Power to Believe 12. Beat 13. The ConstruKction of Light 13. Discipline
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