Which band is closer to prog?
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Topic: Which band is closer to prog?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Which band is closer to prog?
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 15:55
Just when I thought I ran out of poll ideas I came up with this one recently and so I finally get around to posting it. 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:02
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Neither is prog in the slightest. I guess XTC would be closer, but that's like saying cheese is closer to being a school bus than the concept of infidelity. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:06
 In my experience both are appreciated by many prog fans so that's why they get listed. They are both more or less from the same era also. Based on your answer though it seems like the last one would be the best choice for you.
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Man With Hat wrote:Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:15
I really like Tears for Fears, but I've never thought of them as being close to a prog band, although I'd have no complaints about them being listed on ProgArchives. 
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:24
They have some long and longish tracks are at time rather sophisticated and on yeah Nick D'Virgilio played with them. They are proggish at times imo.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:43
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From English Settlement onward... XTC has been very progressive. Don't dismiss songs that are three minutes long. XTC can say more in that time than others in twenty. The concept album, Skylarking is amazing as well as many of their releases. Tears for Fears. No.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:51
Have you heard TFF albums in their entirety or are you just going by the hits?
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 16:56
| I would certainly recommend Apple Venus Pt. 1 to any art rock fan. Pt. 2 and Skylarking are great as well. Arty. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 17:07
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 17:14
That's what I figured.
 Imagine how many people assume a band like Kansas for example weren't prog becacuse they go just by what they hear on the radio. Maybe not quite the same thing here but I wouldn't have thought they were that proggy had I not heard their first album. That one reminded me a bit of Peter Gabriel 3 partly because of the dark tone of it. My point is sometimes you can't go just by the radio songs(which is why I brought up Kansas as an example). |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 20:26
| I like a good amount of XTC but think of them more as art rock than prog but voted for them. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 21:53
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XTC....love them ,but also because I never was moved by Tears for Fears....but it's interesting that The Beatles, The Who, Hendrix, etc are here as proto prog and Zep, Bowie, and Talking Heads are here as prog related when imho they are in no way any more progressive nor more creative than XTC........discuss amongst yourselves. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 16 2020 at 22:30
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Really love both bands Voted XTC, and check their parallel band, The Dukes Of The Stratosphear, a psychedelic and underrated band.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 00:57
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XTC all the way. Tears for Fears is a synth wave band that has not even remotely anything to do with prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 01:06
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I only know TFF, so it wouldn't be fair to pick them over a band I haven't listened to. |
Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 03:46
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Neither is close at all I'll tell you two bands that are criminally forgotten about as prog thats Boston and Toto.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 03:51
they could fit ONLY in prog related.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 04:41
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Nothing in it really, "Seeds of Love" is a pretty prog album (as featured in Prog) and is probably more prog than anything XTC ever did. Of the two bands, I prefer XTC by a mile but they're not really close to being prog.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 04:41
I take it you've not heard Seeds of Love then?
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 05:13
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Easy one, XTC for me, although I like both every once in a while. But above them I very much like the XTC spin-off The Dukes of the Stratosphere; their albums are great! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 08:16
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Neither. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 09:00
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I am on record here stating that XTC should ABSOLUTELY be included on PA. Their music is progressive and they have all worked with major Prog artists outside of XTC. Ever heard of Big Big Train? Or Robert Fripp? Mike Keneally? Peter Blegvad? Billy Sherwood? But every metal or jazz artist under the sun makes it on here. It's annoying. And wrong. ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 11:20
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XTC ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 13:56
Let's not forget to mention http://progstreaming.nl/pages/play-album.php?activeAlbum=2020-10-21-02%20-%20Days%20Between%20Stations%20-%20Giants" rel="nofollow - Days between Stations .-------------
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Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 14:02
| Neither. I have most of their albums and appreciate each band for their I individual musicality. However I never put on the Big Express or Songs from the Big Chair for their prog content. Both bands are however excellent. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 17 2020 at 22:10
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^ Yes...and I don't put on Led Zep, The Who, Beatles, or Hendrix for their prog content yet they are all on PA as either proto or prog related. So,,,what's the deal?  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 02:19
I love XTC but I don't agree. Working with prog artists is not a qualification for inclusion and they've never done anything that I would call prog. Which genre would you put them in?
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 04:18
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Both are great bands. I don't have a strong preference, but overall, I regard XTC as marginally more progressive. I certainly think their sound and style was more original. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 05:21
| The cynic in me sees that there seems to be a need to find 'Prog' credentials in every artist on the planet, which for me is diluting the whole concept of Progarchives. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 05:26
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If we can have the Synth-Pop band Talk Talk on ProgArchives, then why not have Tears for Fears too?
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 05:28
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^ Listen to the Talk Talk albums, especially the later ones, and you'll understand why they are listed here... Nothing to do with TFF. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 06:50
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Good match-up, 'Crimso'. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 07:10
Yes, Talk Talk started off as a synth band but listen to their later stuff (e.g. Spirit of Eden). It is very much not synth-pop.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 07:32
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Tears for Fears have a lot of intrickesiys in ther music, that escapes the general listener but underneeth it simmers with energetic and quirky ambissions. "A Song from a Big Chair" have plenty of songs that are super-intircate. That demands akot from the listener yet are also very nice to liten to while as a casual background music, serves both occations. -------------  
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 07:43
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Hi, In this poll, XTC is the winner for sure. However, XTC fits a lot more in one area that is very ENGLISH ... and also used in Literature, Theater and Film .. . the ECCENTRIC. And its music is centered around that person and feeling, and whether that is considered progressive or not, can be very debatable, however, in terms of creative output? XTC makes most of the top 100 bands listed look ridiculous! WAKE UP ... this world is over ... and the next one begins! And you are a box of chocolates! (before Gump!!!) (Even Psych Paul doesn't get it on this band! Lyrics made for his strings of consciousness and song titles!) ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 18 2020 at 21:33
| I like both so I don't really care how prog they are. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 19 2020 at 11:16
Pray tell....what is the 'whole concept of Progarchives'..? btw ,this is the main page statement..." ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |