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Topic: GENESIS Reformation w/ Gabriel
Posted By: Kohllapse
Subject: GENESIS Reformation w/ Gabriel
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 23:53
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Is a Genesis reunion in the works? Former guitarist Steve Hackett says it is indeed. Hackett, who was in the band in from 1971 to 1977, has said that overtures are being made about getting the progressive rock group back together at some point: "There's something afoot. There's a move afoot to put us together again. At some point there's a reformation mooted. It's rare that I get a call from Genesis management, very rare these days. So maybe something will happen, you know."
Hackett said the reunion would include original singer Peter Gabriel, drummer-vocalist Phil Collins, guitarist-bassist Mike Rutherford, and keyboardist Tony Banks. Nothing specific has been arranged yet, however. Genesis shut down in 1998 after the commercial failure of Calling All Stations, the album Rutherford and Banks recorded with a new singer after Collins left the band. Genesis recently released a three-CD retrospective, Genesis Platinum Collection, and a DVD compilation called Genesis Video Show. (Source: icebergradio.com)
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 23:58
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I don't think it was but I saw it somewhere. That would be the best thing
ever. Period. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 00:31
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Posted By: dima_olkov
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 01:31
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Where can I read more info on this?? This would be just AWESOME if they had a reunion (w/world tour)!!! ------------- PF, Genesis, KC, Yes, VdGG, GG, Camel, Jethro Tull |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 03:09
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Phil Collins back on drums allowing Gabriel to sing?!?!?!? I don't think his huge ego will allow that!!! no offense ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 05:19
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This would be awsome if it happened ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Bodins/?chartstyle=DarkSide5Big"> 
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Posted By: dr_shoganai
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 10:10
I hope that this will really happen. It would be amazing! ------------- Air, fire, earth and water Balance of change World on the scales On the scales. |
Posted By: Nacho220
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 11:47
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There are good chances of getting Steve up to WBWC here in Cleveland during his upcoming tour. You can bet that this will be one of the topics of discussion!! Allen ------------- Allen Thompson Operations Director, Co-Founder | OhioProg Host of Somewhere Between Sunrise & Sunset "your program of progressive rock" on 88.3FM, WBWC |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 11:48
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YEAH!if it is...
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 11:49
Excuse me,but with what right?...Collins left before Calling All Stations,so it's not like Gabriel comes back and takes his microphone literally... -------------
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Bilek wrote:Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 12:04
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At least Collins was there quite a while after Gabriel left... Besides, it might be Ray Wilson who won't leave his "microphone", but apparently he seems to be sacked in this case! I was commenting on Collins' huge ego, btw! you needn't have taken it serious! I still wonder how both egos will be reconciled anyway ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 12:06
It's alright,I know about Collins huge ego...  -------------
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 12:57
This will be bad news for The Musical Box. ------------- Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear "Hey there! Rotter's Club! Explain the meaning of this song and share it" |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 13:18
Collins has stated over and over he loves Peter and his music and the only thing I ever heard him say about a reunion in regards to a conditon. Is that he hopes it is one form or the other. Put the classic 5 back together and he will stay behind the kit or put the pop three back togther. He didn't want to mix them.
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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 14:12
| I've been hearing about talk of a reunion since early last year...and I think every member (Hackett, Rutherford, Collins and Banks) were all down for it except Gabriel because he said something to the effect of "it's not where I am anymore at this point in my career." |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 14:23
| I really hope this is true, but I would be surprised if Gabriel agreed to it. Let's hope I'm wrong. |
Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 15:18
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Enough for me, but it would of course be even better if Gabriel could be convinced. |
Posted By: Kineto-Zetetics
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 15:20
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Of course I would love to see them together again but I wonder if such a show would just see the members 'going through the motions' with an obvious lack of comitment. I was one of the lucky people who saw those early tours and the thought of silver clad Gabriel starting "as sure as eggs ..." whilst being hoist into the air (alla Drury Lane 73) with shaven head and exposed beer gut would probably sully fantastic memories. ------------- Kineto-Zetetics |
Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 15:21
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i thought i read somewhere collins didn't like prog, so why would he reform genesis? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Bodins/?chartstyle=DarkSide5Big">
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Posted By: Fishy
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 15:28
more info on : http:// http://www.genesis-movement.co.uk/ - www.genesis-movement.co.uk/ It also includes a recent interview with Collins and Rutherford, check out the latest news section. I think we shouldn't expect too much really, they say it's possible but that's all !!! |
Posted By: Seabird
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 15:59
Well, nevermind Phil's opinion, he listens to Eminem and Usher... so, I don't look up to him for musical recommendations. I only care for his drumming and singing, but I must say, when it comes to the vocals in Genesis... Gabriel is THE man. ------------- I'm the man on the inside looking out |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 16:27
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It'd be my most wanted reformation of all, seeing as I'm a mere 17 and never got to see the band in their heyday. I also seem to be one of the few here that respects Phil Collins, and his singing I've always found to be of excellent quality. But of course, if Gabriel was mooted to sing in the band again, I can think of few people who'd choose Phil over Peter- I very much doubt even Phil Collins would! |
Seriously, this would be great news, and would probably be the most high profile reformation in rock short of Led Zeppelin, I reckon! The icing on the cake would be a new album- please don't let 'Calling All Stations' be their last album- it was by far their worst album...Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 16:44
| If Gabriel does end up agreeing to it...I think there'd be manifold expectations (aside from the fans' ends) but in terms of monetary estimations... His entourage these days is expansive and indelibly expensive; I sure would pay whatever to see it if he takes the time to make it into a show a la his recent solo outings. That would be awesome, as opposed to a, well "real Genesis Musical Box show" ahah. |
Posted By: SevenColoured
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 19:25
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THE PROGRESSIVE ROCK WILL RISE AGAIN
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Posted By: adelepiani
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 23:41
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I'm completely agree with you, that would be absolutely awesome... ------------- ...Carpe Diem... |
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 05:48
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Great Man!!! ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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Posted By: thrang theng
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:45
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I love Genesis, but I would be really desappointed if their possible/impossible reunion would turn just into a commercial revival of their shadows. Could it leave some bitter in our Genesis music lovers? I mean... the chance to see them live all together is a gift to whose who didn't see them in the past... but what do you expect they will do? Play again the Great songs of their own repertoire of the '70 to '77? Breath the flavour of what it was and would never be again? Would a new album of their own be another mile stone? awesome, but very unlike to be... I would rather appreciate an event, something like Steve Hackett did with Wetton and Co that delivered the beatuful Tokyo Tapes... Few months later that event I saw him with another band, doing almost the same songs. What a deception! The risk is a performance which lacks of any spirit... and that is what the listener gets. So maybe better to remember the good things and forgive tham they split after Seconds Out.
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 22:11
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I find it interesting to note the day this was first posted ... OCTOBER 2ND ... I seem to remember going to Milton Keynes on October 2nd 1982 to see Genesis with Peter Gabriel.. Best concert I ever went to...even if Peter Gabriel did play drums on 'Turn it on again'... Hope it is karma!!! |
Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 10:03
I don't know about the prog comment and what such comments could mean when they come from such accomplished musicians but at least it's a well-known fact that Collins's favourite Genesis album is "The Lamb lies down on Broadway." ------------- You house proud town mouse ha ha, charade you are |
Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 06:17
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My God... The rise of the greatest prog band ever Too much good to be real, I fear... ------------- Still alive... |
Posted By: Ridge
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 22:26
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Only in our dreams dudes! No way this ever happens! Besides Gabriel in a flower suit at his age! ------------- Discipline is never an end in it self, only a means to an end. |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 19:45
| I, like many, think it highly unlikely, sadly, that such a reunion would come about. However, it is not impossible - stranger things have happened! We can all wait and hope. I do believe, nevertheless, that if they DO ever reform, they will make it worthwhile for everyone. They are too professional and, to be honest, too talented to go into it half-heartedly. They were superb in their youth, and now they have years of experience behind them. We all know how good Hackett is solo, and the other members wouldn't want to be left behind. So, while I think it is only a dream, I do think, if the dream comes true, it could be the concert of the century. (And how about a guest appearance from Anthony Phillips, or John Silver?) |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 20:19
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Well, no-one would have thought VdGG would ever reunite, but the Generator is going as strong as ever.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 04:11
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Yes, you never know. It would be exciting and if Gabriel is still doing rolling in some sort of ball in his own shows, why wouldn't he wear some of his old costumes. Age doesn't hold him back. I might add: nobody thought that Floyd would ever come back again (even though it was for a while), or that Wakeman would rejoin Yes, or that Yes' Drama - outfit would reform, so... They can still get along well with each other, and they already reformed in '82, even though it was to give WOMAD financial support, so keep on hoping. It wouldn't be like in the '70's, but the same goes for Van der Graaf Generator and they still know how to do a great show... |
Posted By: kingofbizzare
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 00:36
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If Pink Floyd can reuntie after huge ego battles and multiple members saying that they would never reunite, then I'm sure Genesis can do it too, especially since a few of them seem to think it will happen. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/kingofbizzare/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 10:33
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It would be wonderful, the only thing that scares me is ticket prices, especially since the ones for the Cream reunion are $350... ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 10:48
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Well, VdGG did it after almost 28 years, and they had split completely.
And may be the same realisation will dawn on Genesis as it did on VdGG,
that they were "too often (meeting) at the funerals of former roadcrew
members", to quote Guy Evans from the liner notes of VdGG's "Present".
------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 15:13
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Well, BaldFriede, VDGG has never split up completely, it was just Pete splitting up with Hugh - consider that Jaxon and Guy played on almost every Hammill solo album after VDGG disband. I think that old Genesis rock theatre will not come back, even if they reunited. Besides, Phil and Peter are among the hottest popular music artists today - think of the battle of lawyers and managements!! I think that the best we could get would be Steve reuniting with Mike and Tony and perhaps Phil on drums - add Fish on vocals and rejoice!! The problem is not Phil's ego I think, but Pete's solo career. He's just achieved too much as a solo artist - he's an icon of avantgarde music and probably not considers himself coming back to his youth's music he thinks he grows out of. But I will be glad if I were wrong. ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 15:30
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That's what I call good news.
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