I can not say anything of value about this ... I would prefer that an "artist" was an "artist" but these days in most COMMERCIAL music, and specially the progressive/prog side of things, I am now not considering many of these "artists" anymore, because the format is the same and the music has the same drummer and the solo for the guitar is in the same place ... etc, etc, etc, ... all the elements that got us away from "pop" music and into Progressive many years ago.

We might have to just do albums and not consider any band/person progressive, since one album is and the next one is not! Something like that ... but I would have a hard time voting, and thinking alternatives to this detail ... not to mention that the fixing of this will take the rest of our lifetimes, I bet!

I agree. I think that SEBTP is definitely symph prog, for example, but I think Duke is better classified as crossover prog.

New features for the database are just that: a dream.

I'm sorry my comment is so negative.

Hi,

But geeks are different ... if it ain't broke ... DUMP IT ... and replace it with a cheaper idea/product!

However, I think the amount of data is way too large to be able to get some things done to improve it ... but I wonder where the "genius folks" are that can't figure out how to change something in a database and then fix it ... methinks that the problem is not the fixing, but the engine it is on ... that is not flexible enough to allow for the fixing! And the boss ain't talking about it!

I'm with progaardvark - the forum software needs upgrading.

I thought the same thing too. I like it just the way it is now with genres assigned to artists instead of albums. It's hard enough to decide which genre an artist belongs in without complicating things unnecessarily by assigning genres to each individual album. I also like the current five-star grading system too. 

As an innovation manager/solutions engineer these are the kinds of 'opportunities' I love to come across.

So, here's my pipe dream fix for this issue.

An algorithm that allows each member a single vote on each album to sub-classify it by genre. Much like the album rating system the votes of the many will average out over time. This would only affect a 'Sub-genre' search engine specific to that metadata which would yield the 'number of votes for the highest/total votes cast' as in indicator of relevance.

Any IT guys out there got any free time on their hands?

The PA system is broken, when it comes to genres, but it’s never going to be fixed (or, at least, not in the way suggested in this poll). But, as this is a dream scenario, I guess I may as well put down for the genre change, I never search by genre on PA, because I know the results won’t give me what I want to see. If albums were tagged by genre, I quite possibly would search by genre. But that’s the only reason I’m voting for it, so hardly a strong one.

Rating=1

Review=10

Collaborator Review=20

A slippery slope argument if I ever saw one.

How? There is literally no difference between a 5 star rating system with half stars and a 10 star one.

I did wonder if I had not been clear. I meant replace the five and a half star system with a ten and a half star system.

Correct, but that is because you missed what I thought was clearly implicit in my sentence, but actually clearly was not.

Let me say it again, with the implied part made explicit.

If PA already had a 5 star system with half stars, the same people asking for half stars now, might be asking for the 5 star system with half stars to be changed to a 10 star system with half stars.

Do I really have to state the obvious and point out that I was exaggerating? 

I really doubt that. Take RYM, for instance, which has a 5 star system with half stars. In the nearly 10 years since I started using it never have I seen anyone defending its conversion into a 10 star system as you imply.

Ah, I gotcha. Yeah that would certainly be overkill

That's the nice thing about the Internet, you can wear PA/JA/MAS.

I am satisfied with it. That said, the only minor improvement I can think of is lowering the weight factor for rating-only from 1 to 0.

Half stars: I should be fine with it, but I still can live without it.
Subgenres by album: Would be fine indeed.

But the dream option I think most of is: a vote-once mechanism for polls in which multiple voting is allowed, using checkboxes instead of radio buttons for multiple voting. I suggested this a few years ago, but apparently it was addressed to deaf man's ears.

Oh yeah! Damnit! I should have chosen the “other” option - because this would definitely be my dream feature! Stuff the half stars! Give me the option to have no stars. 👍🏻

Pretty much implement all the features that Rate Your Music has.

That site has just totally upgraded itself so there's no valid reason that ANY site can't do the same.

On a different note, I must say I stand by my opinion that that particular scene from The Good, The Bad and the Ugly, as well as the whole movie the entire Western genre, can only be taken as a joke.

I admire the way RYM has developed. It's a really well thought out system and I love using it just to catalog my own collection. The major difference between RYM and here is that they have a team (maybe a community?) of developers. Without having something like that here and a more active owner, I just don't see this happening at this time. There may also be costs involved.

 

Oh, no offense taken at all! 

The 'subgenres apply to albums rather than artists' thing is as hairbrained now as it was then.   That's a good way to make things even more complex, daunting and confusing for the average PA user than they already are.   Regular members love the idea of album tagging, but what's more important:  our obsessive sensibilities, or the service this site provides?   I say it's the latter.

Yeah but then we're gonna be flooded with terrible low effort 3 sentence reviews likely with broken english and little to no actual meaningful input.

It seems to work fine over on metalmusicarchives and jazzmusicarchives. So it's good enough for metal and jazz but not prog?  There's no confusion. You look up a band or you look up an album. I don't see how it would confuse anyone. It would work the same way it does on those sites I just mentioned. I doubt anyone on those two would be any more confused looking up stuff than they would be on here. 

Yep, but where there's a will there's a way. The lack of will by the owner is the only reason this site is not modern and relevant in a technical sense. As far as i'm concerned the only thing that keeps me coming back is the people who hang out here otherwise RYM is better in every possibly way. It is true however that we do add bands that aren't on RYM.

As far as I can remember, a review should count at least 100 words, which is a good quotum. Some reviewers can write a good review using rather few words, others may write a vast tonnage of crap in almost as many words as a CLOB can contain... and others write great and elaborate ones, almost bookworks in which much thought and effort has been put (at this point I cannot help but thinking of those often enjoyable longreads by AtomicCrimsonRush).