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Topic: Interactive Poll #18 for Real: Short and No Suites
Posted By: mathman0806
Subject: Interactive Poll #18 for Real: Short and No Suites
Date Posted: September 02 2020 at 18:41

This week’s theme: 2 to 4 minute songs with vocals. Perhaps it’s a prog thing, but most of our suggestions tend to be longer tunes. In the last poll, only 3 of the 16 songs are between 2 and 4 minutes, and one is an instrumental. So, let’s see what we like that delivers in a short amount of time.

Rules:

1. Songs must have vocals and be between 2 to 4 minutes in length. Videos can run longer, just the song itself must be in that range.

2. Artist must not be on the PA database.

3. Nominate a song and include a video. Optionally, you can include a couple of alternates.

4. Nominating will be kept open at least until next Wednesday, Sept. 9.  So, no rush. Lorenzo will start the next one on Sept. 14.  

5. Voting starts when I get all selections in the poll and goes on until whenever.

6. Vote for three selections but not your own.

Link to YouTube playlist for the final nominees:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx5yGL08scv_lTiXWxKJFZLN" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx5yGL08scv_lTiXWxKJFZLN

Link to YouTube playlist for all videos:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx7c8vR0lUBdad4nCeJnSe-m" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx7c8vR0lUBdad4nCeJnSe-m

[optional history lesson] Why 2 to 4 minutes? The vast majority of 45 rpm singles over its history were 3 to 4 minutes and characterized as the ideal length of time for a single. It was thought of as the right digestible amount of music, though it partially came about due to technology. The 7-inch 45 rpm single needed enough space between grooves or else the stylus could skip, so 4 minutes was initially a physical limitation. The 45 rpm single was the popular format for radio play and the juke boxes. Manufacturing improved over the years, and there was a bit of controversy when the first ‘long’ single was released, Dylan’s “Like a Rolling Stone” at 6 minutes! John Lennon once asked producer George Martin what the maximum length could be on a 45 and came up with 7 minutes, 11 seconds, the length of  “Hey Jude.” (Reportedly, one the longest sides on a 45 rpm single is the B-side track, “Lunar Sea” by Camel – go prog!) The 45 peaked in popularity in the 70’s (200 million singles sold in ’74) and then faded out in the 80’s with the major labels stopping production by 1990. Note that music you select in no way needs to be from the 70’s or earlier or needs to be a ‘single.’ Style could be anything you want. 




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 02 2020 at 18:43

I am going with 3 different tracks to start.

First up is a song I first heard a few weeks ago for the first time on public radio. The song was released in 2013 and it’s a reworking of song from the ‘40s. It’s called “Beirut,” and the singer Yasmine Hamdan was interviewed in relation to the explosion that occurred, and I was immediately struck by it and got the album. I almost suggested it last week and thought about it again when listening to one of the tracks by Orange Blossom.

Next, we get some funky soul by a band from the 90’s called Dag. They released two excellent albums in this genre before being dropped by their label and disappearing. This is the title track from their debut album, “Righteous”. I feel like this can be reinterpreted for our current times, channeling the spirit of greats like Curtis Mayfield and Marvin Gaye.

Finally, this a total one-hit, one song wonder for me. If you listened album rock radio in 1980, you have heard this song. It’s the only song I have by Donnie Iris (off a compilation), and I have no interest in checking out his other songs, but it gets regular play whenever I go on a long road trip. It’s one of those one-off songs I’ve had on a mixtape back in the day and now on a digital playlist now. A solid rock song, “Ah, Leah”.



Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 02 2020 at 19:18
Susan Christie - “Paint a Lady“



Gary Numan - “I Die, You Die”



CocoRosie - “Lemonade”



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 02 2020 at 22:05
I am going to chime in early on this one.  I still have Micky's entry from the last one echoing.  These are some others that have stuck with me all my life.  

First, The Kinks "The Way Love Used To Be"  Only 2:06 A perfect love song.  

Next, another perfect love song.  Gordon Lightfoot's "Affair on 8th Avenue"  3:27 

And now for something completely different.  The Texas psychedelia of Fever Tree.  "The Man Who Paints The Pictures" 2:34


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 02:10










Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 04:25
Nice theme! My first proposal is from one of my absolute favourite non-prog bands that I already introduced when it was about catchiness, but there Foals stole the show. Now this one is super-catchy, too, let's see whether they make it this time (but there will be competition again). Fun fact 1: Kavus Torabi and the late great Tim Smith (Cardiacs) share(d) my love for this band. Fun fact 2: They have a cool song called "Prog", but that's 4:03 - shame!



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 04:41
OK fast follow up with a second one. This is a first actually, I'm proposing something from my chosen country to live in, but quite different from the poetic singer songwriter tradition that raff and Lorenzo have exposed us to up to now. I'm not expecting a hip hop theme anytime soon so I can use this here... and I liked it already before I was able to appreciate the lyrics (super catchy this one as well). The guy has made an album entirely about art works, imagine that! This one says "I want to be like the heads of Modigliani" and lots of other things, see
https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Caparezza/Teste-Di-Modi/translation/english" rel="nofollow - https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/Caparezza/Teste-Di-Modi/translation/english



Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 06:15
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


This one is not available for me and I couldn't find another.

Morten Harket wasn't available either but I found this.


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 06:16
I was familiar with Caparezza's name, but not yet with his music, and was very impressed by the song. The video is stunning, and the lyrics very clever. Though not a fan of hip-hop, I can appreciate this Italian take on the genre, where you can definitely hear the influence of our musical tradition. I do remember that particular episode - the Modigliani heads hoaxLOL. Art critics really fell for it!

Anyway, I've been thinking about songs to submit for this poll, and already have a couple bookmarked. Will post them later today!


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 06:30
let's see if this one works better.




Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 06:42
^Thumbs Up This plays for me! 


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 06:49
Prompted by mathman's "videos don't work" post the first two I listened to are Little Light and the Morten Harket one. Wasn't aware that Harket has done solo work. As one should expect this is quality pop music that I'd probably rate something like 7/10, good stuff. Little Light isn't really my cup of tea I must say. 


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 06:55
Three of my favorite songs from childhood:








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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 07:02
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Prompted by mathman's "videos don't work" post the first two I listened to are Little Light and the Morten Harket one. Wasn't aware that Harket has done solo work. As one should expect this is quality pop music that I'd probably rate something like 7/10, good stuff. Little Light isn't really my cup of tea I must say. 

Morten has got 5 solo albums, one is in his native language, I did not listen to that one I'm afraid. Embarrassed


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 07:45
A question:


is it possible to post a song shorter than 3 minutes?


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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 07:50
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

A question:


is it possible to post a song shorter than 3 minutes?

Since Nickie did and I like her selections, I'll say yes.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 07:58
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

A question:


is it possible to post a song shorter than 3 minutes?

Since Nickie did and I like her selections, I'll say yes.
  Oh, heck, I broke the rules again.  I was looking at under 4 minutes to make my selections.....I can do 2 others if I should.  

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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 08:23
Choosing songs I like that are 3 to 4 minutes in length was a challenge. Then I read that songs under 3 minutes are also allowed, so I included Morgan Delt - Tropicana at just over 2 minutes. Anyway, here is five songs I've chosen:
 
 
Devo - Shrivel Up
 

 
 
Morgan Delt - Tropicana
 

 
 
Van Halen - Atomic Punk
 

 
 
The Orb - Toxygene (7" Edit)
 

 
 
Edwyn Collins - A Girl Like You
 

 
 


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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 08:32
I would like to get definitive word back from George if under 3 minutes will indeed be allowed (I know he said this, but since it was an error on my part, I want to be sure that it's OK).  I can certainly come up with 2 others that fit the bill without bending the rules.  

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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 08:46
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I would like to get definitive word back from George if under 3 minutes will indeed be allowed (I know he said this, but since it was an error on my part, I want to be sure that it's OK).  I can certainly come up with 2 others that fit the bill without bending the rules.  

It's okay. I am not a big stickler on rules, so I'll edit my original post to 2 to 4 minutes. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 08:51
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I would like to get definitive word back from George if under 3 minutes will indeed be allowed (I know he said this, but since it was an error on my part, I want to be sure that it's OK).  I can certainly come up with 2 others that fit the bill without bending the rules.  

It's okay. I am not a big stickler on rules, so I'll edit my original post to 2 to 4 minutes. Thumbs Up
  You are a true gentleman, George.  Thank you, and again, my sincerest apologies!  Embarrassed

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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 08:58
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:


The Orb - Toxygene (7" Edit)

This didn't play for me, so chose this one for the playlist. 

Let me know if this 7" edit is different.


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 09:02
^ The Kinks' "Follower of Fashion" didn't work for me. This one did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxTnJPIl20U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxTnJPIl20U


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 09:21
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

This didn't play for me, so chose this one for the playlist. 

Let me know if this 7" edit is different.
 
Your one didn't play for me. However, I have that album and therefore know that version of the track, and would've chosen it if I'd seen it (and if it played for me).
 
 


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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 09:26
I'm beginning to get annoyed with YouTube being selective about who can play their videos. Actually, that isn't true... I've been annoyed with YouTube for a long time.
 
 


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 11:03
I'm just going to throw up a couple of quickies because I just can't resist:  

Ambrosia - "Kid No More"



Beck - "Girl"



The Avett Brothers - "Swept Away"


EDIT:  I realized later that the Ambrosia track above breaks the rules in that they are in the Archives.  Sorry about that. 

In replacement, I am posting a track from one of my favorite bands The Low Anthem.  This lovely song and video is what made me fall in love with this band, and the album it comes off of "Oh My God, Charlie Darwin" is also quite amazing.  It probably won't be the last time I post something from this amazing band.
This one is called "To Ohio".





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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 13:42
A few of the songs I would have liked to suggest for this round have already been used in previous polls, and I'd rather avoid duplicating entries when there is so much music to choose from. Here's a couple of songs that have something in common besides their short running time - they involve very few instruments (or none at all).

First off, a song by The Creatures - husband-and-wife (at the time) pair Siouxsie and Budgie - drums and vocals, nothing else:



Second song is by Irish choral ensemble Anúna (a great favourite of mine). The song was originally written by Elvis Costello and Bill Frisell, who is in the database, so there is a slight prog connection:






Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 14:01
nice... but like last time.. I like making my own themes that fit the OP's theme..

so.. I'm going 3 minute and less... and the best part.... all featuring that most favorite album of mine.. (even more than the bassoon haha)

the mighty banjo.. as two of my top 10 alltime favorite songs figure it prominently.. one is too long to have here.. the other .. well...

the oughts...



the 90's



the 80's  (what a much overlooked album btw)



then there is this one.. which will be my poll selection.. yeah we can yap about songs that would have better if they had shortened it.. but what about those songs so good.. they can say in 2 minutes what bands can not say in 10 minutes or more..

a Mick top 10 alltime favorite song.. while I am most proud of my winning performance of Aretha in my first Karaoke contest (oh what a war story that was LOLBeerx18) .. my proudest singing moment was nailing this in a contest and getting a Standing O...  I can do Annie ... oh yes I can...



and the 60's.. nope ... too long.. so no Bluebird.. a top 3 alltime favorite song of mine.. the banjo took that song into another musical and melancholic dimension...

but I'll sub it with a mere top 20 alltime fav..







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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 14:24




Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 14:24
My first nomination:

1) Morphine: Honey White. 
Morphine are in my opinion one of the best bands of the 90s. They established a new sound, a new mood, a new way of arranging songs with just three instruments plus the voice, and what's essential, without the guitars and keyboards. A revolution. Their songs are almost all short, less than 4 minutes long. So I am spoiled for choice, I am very undecided on which to choose, but having to choose, here is this splendid rock and roll.



Alternative track:
2) Afterhours: Male di miele. (Evil of Honey)
Afterhours are one of the most famous Italian underground rock bands, which in recent years has become less wild, less alternative but in the first records expressed a very raw and inspired Italian indie-rock. This is one of their best short songs.




Another alternative track:
3) Bruce Springsteen: Candy's Room.


This song, apart from the Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel, is the best short rock song I've heard as a teenager. And even now I consider it an absolute masterpiece, one of the most beautiful three-minute shorter rock songs in rock history. 

- It starts as a song by a folk singer-songwriter, voice and piano, melodic, then 
- changes rhythm, becomes powerful rock, and finally has an amazing guitar solo with a dazzling rhythm, and 
- then ends with an almost punk enthusiasm (we are in 1978). 

I remind everyone that Springsteen fans, like myself, often consider the album containing this song, Darkness on the Edge of Town, to be the the best of the Boss. Another much loved album by Bruce fans is Nebraska, an acoustic folk album, which is a home-recorded demo with a 4-track recorder where Bruce plays every instrument. Prog fans usually prefer The Wild, The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle, which has longer songs, or Born To Run, which is often considered his best album. Here, keep these 4 names in mind: in my opinion they are his best 4 albums.

Enjoy!

PS  Have you noticed? My holidays are over, and I'm back to work!


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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 14:30
As an FYI, Black Trip has been deemed to be "Content made for kids" and cannot be saved to a YouTube playlist.


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 14:39
Great theme (and thanks to George for thinking of it and expanding the allowable length, or was that shortening the allowable length? Wink)!  Short songs rather than epics.  Gotta get the point across quickly, and was indeed part of the old "hit" formula.  Here are my notes for Page One, the first few out of the box.

George:  Yasmin Hamdan “Beirut” Haunting song and imagery.  More modern than most Middle Eastern-y music I listen to, but every bit as compelling.  Dag “Righteous (City Pain)” Talk about a shift in feel.  What a great voice this lead singer has!  Haven’t really heard anything like this in a while, refreshing!  Donnie Iris “Ah Leah”  That was fun, I don’t recall hearing it from then, but I would have been newly in Santa Cruz with no TV and listened to mostly the college station.  But it does capture a lot of what what the sound of the day then.

Logan:  Susan Christie “Paint A Lady”  Pretty psych-folk.  Never heard this one, love the warbly guitars and the imagery.  Produced with a really retro sound.  Gary Numan “I Die, You Die” Gary Numan sticking with his signature style.  Not really a fan of the robotic sound.  CocoRosie “Lemonade” Interesting dark sound.  Video makes me think of “Gormenghast,” (on the third book of the trilogy, second time around).  I find the vocals distracting, I don’t know if they always sound this way, or if it was affected for this tune.  I like the video more than the piece, because of the vocals.  But I find the chorus kind of enchanting….it may grow on me, who knows?

Cristi:  Simon & Garfunkel “Kathy’s Song,”  One of my favourite LPs of all time.  I so enjoyed seeing them live in Nashville, local Phil Everly came up and sang with them also.  Art hit that high, sustained note in “Bridge Over Troubled Water,” perfectly, even though this was in the 90’s.  The Child “Little Light”  Lovely, heavy, slow-moving psych!  Never heard this one before.  Will certainly go back for another listen.  Morten Harket “Burn Money Burn” Definitely enjoyable, rock-with-synths, but not as light as the A-ha smash hit. I really prefer his voice in this more mid-range.  Joey Tempest “Sometimes” Solid rock vocalist and well-crafted song here.  New Model Army “Lights Go Out” Hard rock with a punk edge to it.  Not as fond of the vocal style, but it’s a pretty rocking tune.  Lyrics are thoughtful. 

Lewian:  Pinback “Devil You Know”  Interesting repeating bass lines, nice change-ups, with this alt-rock sort of band.  Liked the chorus and it’s certainly catchy.  Caparezza “Teste-Di-Modi”  This kind of thing is just not for me, although the video is amusing. 

Greg:  The New Seekers “Look What They’ve Done To My Song Ma”  I remember this version, as well as the original by Melanie.  I like both versions, really.  Johnny Cash “A Boy Named Sue”  Great, great, performer/artist, of course I know this one.  He was also so supportive of others, his tv variety show was just fantastic.  No wonder that this song was a hit all over the place.  The Kinks “Dedicated Follower of Fashion”  Another familiar to me, BIG Kinks fan from their beginning.  No one else quite like them. 

I prophesy disaster:  Devo “Shrivel Up” Princes of New Wave, I enjoy their sarcasm, but it’s not my favourite listening style.  Morgan Delt “Tropicana” Here we have some kind of psych-tinged edgy music.  Not sure what I think of it yet. Van Halen “Atomic Punk”  I think I’ve said, not a Van Halen fan much. I think DLR is a great showman, but just not my kind of music.  The Orb “Toxygene” Electronic music here, not a genre I necessarily enjoy, but some has surprised me.  Not this one, though.  Edwyn Collins “A Girl Like You”  I remember this one and quite enjoyed it at the time, a KROQ staple.  Love the fuzz guitar riff, it also got a lot of club play in LA at the time.




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 15:35
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

As an FYI, Black Trip has been deemed to be "Content made for kids" and cannot be saved to a YouTube playlist.

LOL This is not safe for adults to listen to in a playlist. Nice how yt cares for us!


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 15:37
My (or rather "our") most recent is 2:30, so here it is, out of competition:
https://soundcloud.com/lewian/verkehrt


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 15:46
CTM - "La Mer"



CTM (Cæcilie Trier Musik) is the project of the Danish musician Cæcilie Trier.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 16:45
Here are the great and totally unknown experimental folk duo Solarference:


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 03 2020 at 18:50
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I am going with 3 different tracks to start.

First up is a song I first heard a few weeks ago for the first time on public radio. The song was released in 2013 and it’s a reworking of song from the ‘40s. It’s called “Beirut,” and the singer Yasmine Hamdan was interviewed in relation to the explosion that occurred, and I was immediately struck by it and got the album. I almost suggested it last week and thought about it again when listening to one of the tracks by Orange Blossom.

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Next, we get some funky soul by a band from the 90’s called Dag. They released two excellent albums in this genre before being dropped by their label and disappearing. This is the title track from their debut album, “Righteous”. I feel like this can be reinterpreted for our current times, channeling the spirit of greats like Curtis Mayfield and Marvin Gaye.

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Finally, this a total one-hit, one song wonder for me. If you listened album rock radio in 1980, you have heard this song. It’s the only song I have by Donnie Iris (off a compilation), and I have no interest in checking out his other songs, but it gets regular play whenever I go on a long road trip. It’s one of those one-off songs I’ve had on a mixtape back in the day and now on a digital playlist now. A solid rock song, “Ah, Leah”.

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My impressions:

Beirut is beautiful (and the female singer is wonderful, is it possible to marry her?). It can aspire to my podium.

The song written by Dag is a sophysticated song... but maybe it is especially a commercial cocktail lunge song. I see more form than substance.

Ah, Leah, as you said, is a pleasent solid rock. Bot Solid Rock by Dire Straits is better Wink ....

So, if I had to choose, I'd choose Beirut ... or better, I would choose Yasmine Hamdan!




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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 04 2020 at 04:07
This is going to be a very rich poll, again. Great!
And there is so many to choose from. I was thinking of The Kinks, Fischer-Z, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, and many others, but you all know them already, so I'm picking something from my home and adoptive countries (don't worry, they all sing in English). In chronological order...

Polder-music from the Netherlands (below sea level). It was a big hit with us in 1987, and not only in the Low Countries, so you may have heard it before: The Nits - In the Dutch Mountains :



From France, Yann Tiersen, a songwriter and multi-instrumentalist who is not a very good singer. You may know him through his film music (think of Amélie Poulain...). For this song from 2005 he invited Stuart Staples (indeed, from Tindersticks fame), to do the singing : Yann Tiersen - A Secret Place:




Another French artist, who started as a singer in the London jazz scene, and made her first album in France in 2015. But don't expect jazz, it's more electro pop/rock: Jeanne Added - Look at Them:




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 04 2020 at 07:22
The Nits "In The Dutch Mountains" video has also been labeled "Content made for kids" and cannot be saved to a YouTube playlist. I found another longer clip of the same video with about 45 seconds of non-song intro, so I added that instead.


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 04 2020 at 10:19
^ LOL   Thanks. Strange policy of Youtube... Is it because there are no explicit lyrics, no parental advisory needed, that they block it for adults? I was also thinking of posting some King Missile, so let's do a YT test, see if this passes:
King Missile - The President (it was actually written as an homage to G.W. Bush, but I think it's also/more applicable to the present president of the US of A., and it is less than 4 mins.):

(test, 1, 2...)





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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 04 2020 at 10:42
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ LOL   Thanks. Strange policy of Youtube... Is it because there are no explicit lyrics, no parental advisory needed, that they block it for adults? I was also thinking of posting some King Missile, so let's do a YT test, see if this passes:
King Missile - The President (it was actually written as an homage to G.W. Bush, but I think it's also/more applicable to the present president of the US of A., and it is less than 4 mins.):

(test, 1, 2...)

[video removed for space]
King Missile is okay. LOL

I think the "Content made for kids." is a mistake by whoever created the video. I looked a little more into it, and it looks like the person posting is responsible for tagging whether the video is specifically for kids. 

Quote Per our  https://youtube.googleblog.com/2019/09/an-update-on-kids.html" rel="nofollow - announcement  in September 2019, we’ve made some changes to better protect kids and their privacy, and to address concerns raised by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC).  If their content is child-directed, creators are required to set their video or channel’s audience as “ https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9527654" rel="nofollow - made for kids.

When that happens, comments are not allowed, no miniplayer play back, no adding to playlists, and a bunch of other stuff. 


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 04 2020 at 11:00
More notes and also on Cristi's two added songs:

Cristi: Nick Drake “Day Is Done”  He was such a master of his style.  Gorgeous.  One of my favourite artists, for just this kind of tune.  Black Trip “Putting Out The Fire”  Dark metal (as one might expect from the band name).  Nice double guitars.  The vocals are a little under the top on this one (in terms of production).

Mike: Took out my thoughts on Ambrosia (very hometown band to me, they’re also from San Pedro and I knew them personally).   Beck “Girl” Catchy, poppy song, nice twangy, twisty guitars.  Enjoyed the video, too, more “hometown” (LA) scenes and the MAD Magazine references. The Avett Brothers “Swept Away” Some banjo for Micky here.  Big Americana-type band in Nashville the years I lived there and with good reason.  Not something I really listen to a lot, but it’s refreshing once in a while.  The Low Anthem “To Ohio” This is more the style of brushing-up-against-Americana that I enjoy.  Have never heard them, but really enjoy the harmonized vocals and understated sound.  Will probably be looking up more of them. 

Raff:  The Creatures “But Not Them”  Very energetic art rock/punk edged (at least this one), this evokes a jungle vibe, with the drums and the heat in the lyrics.  Anuna “Deep Dead Blue”  much more what I enjoy (as you probably know already!).  Hypnotic, angelic voices in a minor key.  What’s not to like? 

Micky:  Modest Mouse “Satin In A Coffin”  A band I know my son likes, now my time to hear something.  Already like the title….As promised, banjo and some edgy vocals, made me laugh!  I have a special place in my heart for f-you songs.  😊  Neil Young “Old King”  You already know how much I love Neil Young.  And dogs.  Poor old King.  R.E.M. “Wendell Gee” This is my favourite R.E.M. LP.  The whole thing is just stellar.  And this song is one of the reasons why.  Heart “Dreamboat Annie”  Very familiar with this, and what a great Karaoke story to go with it!  Shoulda got that on film, Micky.  You also know how I feel about the too-long for this poll “Bluebird.” Heart The Hollies “Stop Stop Stop”  As you probably could guess, I remember this one well, also.  What a time that was, so much experimentation.  This song is what made my first husband think of using his banjo as a substitute for a saz until he got the real thing when he was recruited into a Middle Eastern music and dance act.  You can hear echoes of what The Kaleidoscope were doing, as well.  Here is a Kaleidoscope piece, "Banjo," David Lindley solo on this one.  Can't get the video to post, so using a link, instead.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2_N3ae_mC0&t=22s&ab_channel=ErickTovarVenegas

Lorenzo:  Morphine “Honey White”  With all of the horns, reminds me a bit of Roy Wood, but the voice is kind of what I think of as a lazy voice (which is not a criticism), it’s kind of drawly.  Definitely a well-done rocker.  Afterhours “Male di miele” Hard punkish edge to this, rollicking song.  Bruce Springsteen “Candy’s Room”  a rocker from Bruce this time, with a guitar solo that hearkens to The Yardbirds.  Kind of a sad song to me, lyrically. 



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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 04 2020 at 11:02
Hehehe, I am glad that King Missile's The President is accessible to US voting adults... Approve


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 04 2020 at 12:40
mathman: Yasmine Hamdan's song sounds quite a bit better to my ears than the other two. The Donnie Iris one has some fun bits, the Dag one doesn't speak to me at all.



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 04:34
Funny that many of us (myself included) have gone rather mainstream for this poll... My take on/after a first batch:

Mathman: Dag and Donnie Iris are pleasant listens, but do not leave that remaining impression that Yasmine Hamden's song has on me: a powerful one, with a nice build-up, mixing melancholy and sorrow.

Logan: CocoRosie have made some more convincing songs than this one. I prefer Susan Christie and Gary Numan: both very captivating but in completely different ways. Difficult to make a choice between these two.

Snicolette: Both The Kinks and Gordon Lightfoot are quite nice romantic songs, but I guess I am now more in a Fever Tree mood: I like the energy that pours over from this song.

Cristi (first batch): Simon & Garfunkel, the only album of them I have and it is a brilliant one. Child and New Model Army do not really appeal to me. Most of these songs are a bit too mainstream for me, but from these I think I prefer Morten Harket.

Lewian: Oh, when even Lewian goes Pop, where is the world heading then? Both Pinback and Caparezza are interesting listens but also rather forgettable to me, once the song is over.

The Dark Elf: Three great classic songs. The Kinks are unbeatable, though.

I prophesy disaster: Devo, at first I thought that this is not my thing, but it has something mysteriously intriguing. Tropicana and The Orb don't have the same effect. Early Van Halen cannot do much wrong with me, although Atomic Punk would not be my choice from this album. I had completely forgotten the name of Edwyn Collins, but not this wonderful hit song!

TCat: Beck, to my ears and apart from the guitar interlude, produces here a rather dull pop song. I like the Avett Brothers much more, but The Low Anthem is really a very beautiful song - I by far prefer this one.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 04:38
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


Lewian: Oh, when even Lewian goes Pop, where is the world heading then? Both Pinback and Caparezza are interesting listens but also rather forgettable to me, once the song is over.

 

Yes, I have my dark sides, too. Tongue (I'm also on record as the biggest Nik Kershaw fan in this forum.)


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 04:47
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:



Cristi (first batch): Simon & Garfunkel, the only album of them I have and it is a brilliant one. Child and New Model Army do not really appeal to me. Most of these songs are a bit too mainstream for me, but from these I think I prefer Morten Harket.


None of the songs are actually mainstream, Joey Tempest solo for example did very little and mostly Europe fans paid attention. Same with Morten Harket (a-ha listeners). I think both artists created those albums for the fun of it, because they are musicians and, not to serve a wide audience. If you really look what was happening in the mainstream world in the 2000s or these days, you wouldn't say any of it is mainstream or even "pop". 


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 05:27
^ "Mainstream", I guess,  wasn't the right choice of words, but to my ears they are a bit too straight forward. That describes probably better what I mean, and it remains of course just a personal appreciation.


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 05:31
Second batch:

Raff: Now we're going for some originality... Two very different but great and captivating songs. The drum riff from The Creatures and the vocals on the Anuna track are enough to convince me completely. Wouldn't know which one to choose, though.

micky: I don't share your love for the banjo, but these four songs are very good indeed. Didn't know Modest Mouse, but I prefer their song over the REM and Neil Young selections here. I even like The Hollies here, but none of these can beat Heart's Dreamboat Annie. I follow you in your choice.

Cristi (second batch): Day is Done by Nick Drake, what is not to like? A very beautiful song! Black Trip (which is missing in the playlist (mathman's censorship? ;) is quite nice. It's maybe not the most original song but I do like it very much. Great playing! Didn't know the band, so will explore a bit more of them.

jamesbaldwin: Morphine, oh yes, a wonderful drive in this song; a great interplay between bass, drums and sax - I think I never heard them before but I really like this one. Afterhours is much less my cup of tea, a bit too much garage-rock for me. And although I am not a big Springsteen fan, everytime I have to acknowledge that he is a real great songwriter. Like this one too, but Morphine wins this for me easily.

The Anders: CTM's La Mer (not on the playlist) is a very nice discovery. It has a very interesting sonic quality. Makes me curious to listen to more of the album. Thanks!

Lewian: Glad you're back into more alternative territories ;) But Solarference will not win me over, I actually cannot stand her voice... which is a pity, because I like their approach.

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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 06:15
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Morgan Delt “Tropicana” Here we have some kind of psych-tinged edgy music.
 
The album it's from is not just "psych-tinged" but fully-drenched psychedelic. The album is so psychedelic that it makes early Pink Floyd sound like narcs.
 
 
 


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 07:38
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Second batch: The Anders: CTM's La Mer (not on the playlist) is a very nice discovery. It has a very interesting sonic quality. Makes me curious to listen to more of the album. Thanks!


You can find the whole album on her Bandcamp site :)


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 07:52
Songs I knew in advance:
Johnny Cash - "A Boy Named Sue"
The Kinks - "Dedicated Follower of Fashion"
R.E.M. - "Wendell Gee"
The Hollies - "Stop Stop Stop"

I know several other artists for other songs. The Creatures - if I remember correctly - was a (fictional) band featuring either David St. Hubbins or Nigel Tufnel before they joined forces. The other one played in "The Lovely Lads".


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 08:06
Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Morgan Delt “Tropicana” Here we have some kind of psych-tinged edgy music.
 
The album it's from is not just "psych-tinged" but fully-drenched psychedelic. The album is so psychedelic that it makes early Pink Floyd sound like narcs.LOL
 
 
 


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 08:21
I've been trying to think of other short songs to suggest here, but all I could think of was bands I had already suggested in previous polls, or songs everyone and their dog knowsWink. Therefore, this time around I'll stick with just two - unless I get an illumination before it's time to vote.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 09:46
There are so many I am already familiar with here, but as usual, there is a lot of great new stuff which I am slowly making my way through.  The ones I'm already too familiar with are:  Donnie Iris, Gordon Lightfoot, Simon & Garfunkel, The New Seekers, Johnny Cash, Van Halen, Neil Young (love almost everything by Neil Young but this song is not a favorite), R.E.M. (this is one of my favorite songs from them), Heart, The Hollies, Bruce Springsteen.  




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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 10:48
And now getting up to date with first listens, starting with an addition from Lewian:  

Lewian:  Solarference “I Wish That The Wars Were All Over”  An old ballad with more modern trappings, enjoyed the interplay of voices and the different arrangement of this song.  Sadly, it’s still relevant, isn’t it?

The Anders:  CTM “La Mer”  I really enjoyed this combination of classical and jazz.  Deep voiced female singing with cello and piano, kind of minimal sound.    Very intriguing.

suitkees:  The Nits “In The Dutch Mountains” I think I may have heard this before.  It’s reminiscent to my ear of The Waterboys, who I love.  This has some different elements than Mike Scott and friends, however.  Nice entry.  Yann Tiersen “A Secret Place”  Very cinematic song with unconventional use of instruments, kind of a “talky” vocal.  I like the musical part of it very much.  Jeanne Added “Look at them”  Definitely not jazz, it’s in a very modern pop style.  I’m not a fan of this vocal type, although I don’t doubt her talent.  King Missile “The President”  LOL!  I wonder how they really feel?  There is a song (in a much more traditional style), by Eliza Gilkyson, which she wrote with GW Bush in mind “Man of God,” which also applies equally to 45.   




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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 11:02
If there's still room...here are 3 I really like...a few favorites over the years.....










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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 11:07
I just realized the Mary Black song is over 4 min...I can change it if needed.
Embarrassed


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 11:13
"In the Dutch Mountains" deserves credits for the song title alone.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 11:52
Thanks for the feedback. I'm snipping the posts just to highlight the comments on the material I proposed. I had hoped to bring some variety to my three choices even if two were in the sorts of folk realm.

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

...Logan: 
Susan Christie “Paint A Lady” 
Pretty psych-folk.  Never heard this one, love the warbly guitars and the imagery.  Produced with a really retro sound. 
Gary Numan “I Die, You Die”
Gary Numanmsticking with his signature style.  Not really a fan of the robotic sound. 
CocoRosie “Lemonade”
Interesting dark sound.  Video makes me think of “Gormenghast,” (on the third book of the trilogy, second time around). I find the vocals distracting, I don’t know if they always sound this way, or if it was affected for this tune. I like the video more than the piece, because of the vocals.  But I find the chorus kind of enchanting….it may grow on me, who knows?


The singer who sings the weird parts in that quite Gormenghastly video always has a bit of an odd voice from what I have heard (reminiscent to me of Bjork) but I would not call that song typical of it (not that I've heard a lot of CocoRosie -- it was the imagery of the video that interested me particularly). While I don't find her vocals exactly pleasant in the track I posted (pleasant can be so boring), I like the vocals in the song, and I like the contrast. I like quirky, and those make the song more interesting to me. Without that it would sound less unique and wyrd, so those vocals are a plus for me in the song.

That's a favourite Numan song of mine for some reason, although Replicas is my favourite Numan album.

With the Julie Christy, I really like that song except for the clock (tick tock stuff, which reminds me of Hannibal Lecter). "Tiktok on the clock but the party never stops.... Oh, oh whoah whoah" or whatever.


Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

... Logan: CocoRosie have made some more convincing songs than this one. I prefer Susan Christie and Gary Numan: both very captivating but in completely different ways. Difficult to make a choice between these two.


I'm not that familiar with much CocoRosie, so I think that will be out of the running. It intrigued me. EDIT: I don't know enough of CocoRosie to judge how convincing it is comparatively, but I like it, had planned for that to be my nomination, and probably will stick with it.

When I saw the title of this poll, the first one I thought of was Buffy Sainte-Marie's Vampire, but then I read the OP and saw it was too short (could be accepted now).



I might nominate this instead (had planned to save this for a later round, not sure if I've mentioned this in any of these topics -- I know I did it in one of my own polls):

The Cardigans - "The Great Divide"




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 17:41
I listen to some of the playlist while doing other things, not always fully aware what goes on (stuff to do...), but what struck me: Coco Rosie is clearly the best of Logan's (first) bunch, very expressive. The Kinks song surprised me, I didn't know them like this, and I liked it a lot. Gordon Lightfoot wasn't bad either. Of course (?) I knew Look What They've Done to my Song, but I hadn't heard it for ages, and there are some nice childhood memories connected to it. I love that song. Kathy's Song is something from Simon & Garfunkel's catalogue that I didn't have on my radar. I've heard this before, but it didn't leave an impression; I actually don't know why. Very nice song, if maybe not their most memorable.

Well done I prophesy disaster for nominating Tropicana, that's really something different. I know that Devo album; it's very dependent on mood what I think of it. Seven out of ten days it leaves me cold, on the remaining three I admire its originality. Kid No More by Ambrosia is certainly not normally my kind of style, but this one is very enjoyable. About half way through now.



Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 20:27
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I just realized the Mary Black song is over 4 min...I can change it if needed.
Embarrassed

The Mary Black song will be considered "out of competition," so if you want to suggest another in its place, you certainly are welcome to.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 20:51
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I just realized the Mary Black song is over 4 min...I can change it if needed.
Embarrassed

The Mary Black song will be considered "out of competition," so if you want to suggest another in its place, you certainly are welcome to.

Thanks...I understand.....this is one of my oldie favorites...posted here before on an old PA thread......maybe.....




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 22:01
Some thoughts. Not commenting on each song. 

Greg (Logan): I enjoyed Gary Numan - “I Die, You Die” and a nostalgic throwback to the early 80's synthesizer heavy new wave. My favorite of your selections. With CocoRosie - “Lemonade”, the music I liked, and it took a few listens for the vocals to work but still, it seemed too affected for me. I read through some of the comments in YouTube and there was reference to 'cursive singing'. I had not heard of that so looked into it, and https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/pkyqkv/cursive-singing-tiktok-trend-explained" rel="nofollow - this article described it as: "a style characterised by diphthongisation, wherein vowel sounds are stretched beyond what is necessary." 

Nickie (Snicolette): The Kink's song was my favorite. Fever Tree came close, maybe the same. It was tough to decide since it was comparing apples to oranges. I dug that heavy psyche vibe. I do need to listen to more music from that period.

Cristi: The Child "Little Light," Black Trip "Putting Out The Fire," and Morten Harket "Burn Money Burn" are my favorites of your selections. 

Lewian: Pinback "Devil You Know" stood out. The bass line had a bit of "surf" vibe to it.  I think I would appreciate Caparezza more if I understood the lyrics. Most of the time in these polls, understanding the language hadn't been necessary for me to enjoy different songs, but not with this one. 

That's it for now. Will continue over the next few days with the rest.

 



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 22:55
Glad you enjoyed The Kinks and Fever Tree, both.  Very different!  And the sweet love song was a departure from the norm for The Kinks, but what a lovely departure it was.  Probably my favourite love song, ever.  I thought the sweetness of The Kinks and Gordon Lightfoot needed the balance of the terribly under-noticed Fever Tree.  

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 05 2020 at 22:59
And getting caught up, here is more from Logan and continuing with dr uw"  

Logan:  Buffy Sainte-Marie “The Vampire”  Her tremolo voice is perfect for scary songs….I really loved her “I’m Gonna Be A Country Girl Again,” LP, have a sentimental feel for it.  The Cardigans “The Great Divide”  Will this be The Cardigans song that makes me “get” why people like them?  Baby voice not my fave thing, but let’s see what happens.  I liked the music, but not her voice. 

dr wu23:  Savoy Brown “A Hard Way To Go”  I remember this, also saw Savoy Brown play live, so will have to disqualify it for my own vote.  What a catchy song.  Great bass line!  Their vocals remind me a little of Spirit on this one.  Leon Russell “Roll Away the Stone”  Another great tune from a great performer. Saw Leon Russell a couple of times.  A real original, true to his sound and roots.  The Guess Who “Undun”  One of my favourite bands of all time.  I know this, but what a great piece of classic rock music.  I bow down to Burton Cummings. 

 

  



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 04:34
OK, suitkees wants something more innovative.... here we are. Of course this is properly progressive music that puts most bands on PA to shame, but is for some incomprehensible reason not listed here. A true monument this one. (For the Spanish speaking among you with Spanish subtitles. Wink)
Play it loud!!

House of Lies English lyrics here:
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This one is from a phantastic solo album of Neubauten's FM EInheit. Vocals again Blixa, in Japanese if I'm not mistaken. (I read somewhere that he sings here "no, I'm not xxx (?), I'm a musician" but can't find that anymore.)



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 04:54
Nice. I really love Einstürzende Neubauten Smile


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 05:59
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I just realized the Mary Black song is over 4 min...I can change it if needed.
Embarrassed

The Mary Black song will be considered "out of competition," so if you want to suggest another in its place, you certainly are welcome to.

Thanks...I understand.....this is one of my oldie favorites...posted here before on an old PA thread......maybe.....



oh wow... Doc bringing it with authority!!!  God I love that song..  though No Time will always be my favorite from them. Forget what the geeks and freaks say.. hands down the best band to ever come from north of the border


Ashley Cummings might be, with the possible exception of Mickey Thomas, the single best overlooked male vocalist in all rock.  Instantly recognizable.. and what range..



too funny though...  the 7 degree of Mick the King of Karaoke...  I've had some wild first dates before though none will ever top the first with the Spawn of Satan..  I once dated my best friends sister who had seen me and band play and she loved my voice..

so we were at this bar.. both half gone.. and it had a Karokee machine up there.. and she said to me.. I'll dance if you'll sing a favorite song for me.. it's one of the songs on the selection list... I said you first.. and she proceeded to mount the table and dance like there was no tomorrow... so i did my half

and that song..  ummm hmmm.. BTO.. You Aint' Seen Nothing... and naturally being insprired and sh*t faced as I was.. I nailed it.




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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 06:06
Guess Who are great, I enjoy even their rock'n'roll phase 



Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 06:11
indeed Cristi baby... Thumbs Up one of my favorite 'angry' songs...




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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 10:13
Sorry not commenting on other peoples selections yet and am just focusing on some comments on my own choices again. I've been trying to get my stairs and deck painted, and it has ended up being a much more challenging project than I anticipated. The only painting I've ever done much of is finger painting, but it's the stripping that has been so challenging, which is disheartening because I had fancied myself a pretty good stripper.

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

...I listen to some of the playlist while doing other things, not always fully aware what goes on (stuff to do...), but what struck me: Coco Rosie is clearly the best of Logan's (first) bunch, very expressive....


That is the one of mine I wished to nominate, and I started questioning that with other comments, but I will pick "Lemonade" as my choice. Best, I don't know, but to me it is the freshest of my choices, and it is the one that I would most like to play again. With the Numan I have a very long history -- an acquaintance gave me his Telekon LP knowing I liked Numan. I like the expressive theatricality of the CocoRosie song.

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

...Greg (Logan): I enjoyed Gary Numan - “I Die, You Die” and a nostalgic throwback to the early 80's synthesizer heavy new wave. My favorite of your selections. With CocoRosie - “Lemonade”, the music I liked, and it took a few listens for the vocals to work but still, it seemed too affected for me. I read through some of the comments in YouTube and there was reference to 'cursive singing'. I had not heard of that so looked into it, and https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/pkyqkv/cursive-singing-tiktok-trend-explained" rel="nofollow - this article described it as: "a style characterised by diphthongisation, wherein vowel sounds are stretched beyond what is necessary." 


Thanks, Geo. Oh, yes, very affected singing. Theatrical I might say, and the video is somewhat theatre of the absurd, and it's whimsical, meets the Grand Guignol (maybe not so grand, but somewhat Guignol). ;) Interesting article. I think of Bjork the most when I hear that CocoRosie, who I think also uses a similar diphthongisation, but that singing is taken to an absurdist level with CocoRosie, which works for me. It's got a kind of affected quality that also reminds me somewhat of The Cure with "Lullaby". "Lemonade" will be my nomination, by the way. I like that it's rather "different" and whimsical...

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

...Logan:  Buffy Sainte-Marie “The
Vampire”  Her tremolo voice is perfect for scary songs….I really loved her “I’m Gonna Be A Country Girl Again,” LP, have a sentimental feel for it.  The Cardigans “The Great Divide”  Will this be The Cardigans song that makes me “get” why people like them?  Baby voice not my fave thing, but let’s see what
happens.  I liked the music, but not her voice. 


If you are to get into The Cardigans, then the post twee pop period might be best for you. Perhaps my favourite The Cardigans song, "Beautiful One" is off an early (mid 90s period) album and is her at her most baby-voiced. Perhaps it's my infantile nature. You would probably appreciate her vocals more on later albums, such as on Long Gone Before Daylight from 2003.

Here is the opening track from that:



I prefer her early period, but that's also because the music interests me more, and is more whimsical I find (and has retro qualities that I like). I do value whimsy. The above is I think a well-made song, but it's also plainer for me, less magical, more mundane.

I'm reminded of Kate Bush. My most listened to album of hers has been her debut, and on that she she has these rather twee girlish vocals (and in her case, theatrical, affected, over-the-top vocals on songs like "Wuthering Heights" -- I do prefer her remake).



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 11:03
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

...Logan:  Buffy Sainte-Marie “The
Vampire”  Her tremolo voice is perfect for scary songs….I really loved her “I’m Gonna Be A Country Girl Again,” LP, have a sentimental feel for it.  The Cardigans “The Great Divide”  Will this be The Cardigans song that makes me “get” why people like them?  Baby voice not my fave thing, but let’s see what
happens.  I liked the music, but not her voice. 


If you are to get into The Cardigans, then the post twee pop period might be best for you. Perhaps my favourite The Cardigans song, "Beautiful One" is off an early (mid 90s period) album and is her at her most baby-voiced. Perhaps it's my infantile nature. You would probably appreciate her vocals more on later albums, such as on Long Gone Before Daylight from 2003.

Here is the opening track from that:  Video removed for space, as well as other comments to reply....

I prefer her early period, but that's also because the music interests me more, and is more whimsical I find (and has retro qualities that I like). I do value whimsy. The above is I think a well-made song, but it's also plainer for me, less magical, more mundane.

I'm reminded of Kate Bush. My most listened to album of hers has been her debut, and on that she she has these rather twee girlish vocals (and in her case, theatrical, affected, over-the-top vocals on songs like "Wuthering Heights" -- I do prefer her remake).

  LOL on the stripper aside.  LOL

I will give her a listen but the baby girl voice is not my thing at all.  I really love the Cardiacs-related William Drake "Rising of the Lights," recording, however....so maybe this time, it's just the singer. 


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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 11:22
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Well done I prophesy disaster for nominating Tropicana, that's really something different.
 
Thank you. Of the tracks I posted, that is the one I most wanted to have in this poll.
 
 


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 06 2020 at 13:50
Logan:

---CoCoRosie: good and interesting composition, original but for my taste it was ruined by the musical arrangement, by the artificial sound. 

---Gary Numan: good rhythm, but to be sincere I don't like this song, too commercial, and too synthetic sound. 

---Susan Christi: For my taste it is definitely the best, great voice.


Snicolette:

My fave is the song by Gordon Lightfoot. He got style, and his voice is wonderful. But on the other hand the psychedelia by Fever Tree is very good, and the song is very pleasent.

The Kinks? Good, strange atmosphere for that group. But a flash is missing.




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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 03:11
what's the deadline for final nomination? Smile


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 05:48
I apologize for not having been more active. During the past couple of days, I was busy with Virtual ProgDaySmile. Now lots of listening to do! In any case, I am going to nominate the Anúna song, "Deep Dead Blue". Sorry for not having provided more choices! This time I found myself stumped.


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 05:50
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

what's the deadline for final nomination? Smile

End of day Wednesday.


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 07:14
Dr Wu23: Wow, what a good listen, these three in a row. Savoy Brown, Leon Russell and The Guess Who deliver three great classic songs (or three classic great songs)! Knew them before, but it was long ago that I've heard them.

Logan: I like the song (writing and playing) of Buffy Sainte-Marie, but gosh I do hate the tremolo in her singing (it's the same problem I have wit a lot of Joan Baez: wonderful songs in general, but the tremolo ruins it for me - a personal thing, maybe I can get a doctor's prescription for it). Of The Cardigans, on the contrary, I always loved the singing and the music too, but I don't have any of their albums (maybe I should repair that omission in my collection). This is a nice song.

Lewian: Hehe... Thank you, you reassured me. I can understand you need the Einstürzende Neubauten to compensate for your Nick Kershaw flaw. Wink Great choice! I actually didn't know the FM Einheit spin-off. It's nice, but it doesn't have the strength of Haus der Lüge. Very strong lyrics too (in general, with EN - and yes, I do understand German too).


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 07:40
BTW, out of competition because of its length, but Long Gone by The Guess Who is also an amazingly wonderful track. Thanks micky!


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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 09:13
My final nomination for voting will be The Low Anthem - "To Ohio"

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 10:35
My final nomination will be Fever Tree's "Man Who Paints the Pictures"  First time I've entered a very heavy psych-rock piece.

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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 13:51
I only posted CTM: La Mer, and that is still my nomination.


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 14:07
I am starting to fill in the final nominations, but no rush. You have until Wednesday night to make your final decision. (Let me know if I have overlooked someone, or gotten something wrong.)

Also, we have 14 participants so far, so if you are new (or old) and checking this thread out, you have time to nominate. Rules are in the first post. The more, the merrier.


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 14:07
I guess I'll go with Dedicated Follower of Fashion by the Kinks. Love the biting sarcasm (Ray Davies actually beat the hell out of a fashion designer and his girlfriend at a party following an argument over the idiocy of fashion), as well as the jangling guitar intro and outro.

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 14:15
Great choice, Greg.  Ray Davies is a treasure... 

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 07 2020 at 16:46
Some more impressions: Nick Drake can of course do no wrong. I was very impressed by La Mer. I mean, I love some catchy music and some straight songs, but this one is so inventive and at the same time intense. The same can probably be said about Deep Dead Blue, except that this one didn't grab my attention while working... which doesn't necessarily count against it of course. King Missile surely did, I'm just not quite sure whether that was for the right reason Wink. The Guess Who - I love love love that band name. Unfortunately the posted song of them I really like is Long Gone and 8 minutes long. The Creatures - they create a pretty unique atmosphere here, very good.  The Nits - In the Dutch Mountains is probably the secret national anthem, iconic. My brother-in-law is actually one of the biggest Nits fans on earth, and he made me play this to death a bit... very good song but I probably wouldn't vote for it these days.
Oh, and I should have said earlier that the Kinks song I was referring to in the earlier post was the one posted by Snicolette.

By the way, my nomination can still be influenced. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do.



Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 08 2020 at 20:29
I love all 3 songs I posted...hard time deciding which to place on the list....tempted to pick Undun because some have commented on The Gues Who...but I thnk I'll go against the grain and pick 'Roll Away The Stone' by Russell.

'Roll away the stone, don't leave me here alone
Resurrect me and protect me, don't leave me layin' here
What will they do in 2000 years?'
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 02:18
since today is the deadline, I'll nominate Nick Drake - Day Is Done


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 05:56
My nomination will be King M..... Oh no, I will go for: The Nits - In the Dutch Mountains


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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 07:39
Updated the poll and started a playlist for just nominees. 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx5yGL08scv_lTiXWxKJFZLN" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx5yGL08scv_lTiXWxKJFZLN

A couple more final nominees needed by end of day (and anyone new can suggest a song for the poll), and voting can start tomorrow morning.


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 11:52
I'm having the same problem as Raff with this poll. I'll just nominate this song:

Peixe:Avião - Quebra


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 12:03
More first thoughts on Lewian's additions and also a new one, from Samuel:

Lewian Einsturzende Neubauten “Haus der Luge”  As you can probably guess, the vocals are more strident than what I usually prefer.  Fits the lyrics, though.  Followed by his “Homeless”  More in the same sort of vein.  Just not my cup of tea.  Solarference and Pinback more my style, even though they are very different from each other.

Samuel:  Peixe:Avião – Quebra  Apocalyptic, booming drums and deep bass.  Kind of an eerie vocal, I like the sound of the piece, even without understanding the words.  Will see if I keep hearing it later today in my mind’s ear



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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 13:12
I actually have a couple of CD's by peixe:avião (Madrugada and Peso morto).


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 13:24
The feedback for mine is very diverse... thanks Nicky for commenting, but anyway, I love both Pinback and Solarference a lot (and Caparezza for that matter), but I always have difficulties to find the outstanding individual songs. I listen to all their work and prefer one thing today and another thing tomorrow; same by the way with FM Einheit's brilliant solo work (there's a lot to be found for anybody who is up for this kind of sound experimental stuff; he has been pretty active after his time with the Neubauten). I also like Einstuerzende Neubauten generally, but Haus der Luege is, as I wrote, a monument, and it'll be my nomination.


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 15:12
Sam with a late entry and very good one. 

I think I just need Lorenzo's nomination unless he had already stated it and I missed it. Or, any other late entries. It's a good variety we have spanning from the 60's to the 2010's.


Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 18:34
Just played through the list.  Wow, this is going to be tough.  With the world in the state it is in, I tend to be craving the more minimal, understated sound the past few weeks as it kind of works in contrast to the chaos and soothes the soul, but then that late entry Peixe : Avião - Quebra took me by complete surprise. Right now, that track along with Deep Dead Blue are the top contenders for me, but, the selections are excellent, so anything can happen.

 


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 19:21
My nomination is


MORPHINE: Honey White


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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 19:50
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My nomination is

MORPHINE: Honey White
Nice choice! A band I am quite familiar with. Both Cure for Pain and Yes were in heavy rotation throughout the 90's on my multi-disc CD player. 


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 09 2020 at 19:57
The poll is open! A lot of good ones to choose from!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx5yGL08scv_lTiXWxKJFZLN" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-zzvl_w6Fx5yGL08scv_lTiXWxKJFZLN



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