Will we ever see a new Genesis studio album?
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Topic: Will we ever see a new Genesis studio album?
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Subject: Will we ever see a new Genesis studio album?
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 00:19
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I'm continuing the series of threads after the successes of "Will we ever see a new Yes studio album?" and "Will we ever see a new Camel studio album?" It's been more than two decades since the previous Genesis album Calling All Stations (which features Ray Wilson instead of Phil Collins), and almost three decades since the last studio album by the three man line up, We Can't Dance. Since they have announced that they will be touring again, do you think they will ever make another studio record? |
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Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 02:42
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Well, I think Collins said the usual "probably not, never say never" to the press on the subject of a new studio album, which is what Genesis have been saying for the past 20 years. They haven't made a single album in the past 20 years. So, unless the new decade brings a new definition to Genesis's "probably no, possibly yes"s, no, sadly not.
------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 02:51
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I think it's unlikely that they'd still be up for such an endeavour. The result probably wouldn't be very good either. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 10:31
| I guess their best shot at it would be joining forces with Steve Hackett, who has remained active all this time. And really, by now, I guess Genesis might have more interest from the prog crowd than the pop one. |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 12:31
I doubt Hackett would be interested in a proper re-union of the four man line up (he has said as much), but maybe he would be willing to feature as a guest on a new album by the three man line up. He already does a lot of guest appearances on other people's albums, so why not on his old band mates album?
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Dellinger wrote:Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:00
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Neither Hackett or Gabriel will join Phil, Mike and Tony to record a new Genesis album, I suspect they have been trying to do this for the past 10 years to no avail, more than what we have been hearing about in the press or interviews. Phil is no longer able to drum let alone stand on stage and sing, so who will drum on the album? This is what happens when people get old! Who is going to write the music and lyrics? They all have a ton of material I bet ready to record, but none of it is Genesis material, rather all solo stuff. Screw the ridiculous thought that prog-music would be coming from them...why?? So the 100K prog fans in the world would be happy...  All the prog community will do is bitch and moan that it's nothing like Foxtrot or SEBtP. Now the Classic Rock community would be happier than pigs in mud, and make the album go platinum!-------------   
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:07
The Watch is the best surrogate for classic Genesis. Should they release a new album, I'll listen to it.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:10
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I don't care if they ever put another note to tape, I just want to see them live once. Three man, four man, five man, doesn't matter. That said, I'd like to see all five of them live in some way or another. And I really think Gabriel is long overdue for a proper solo album. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:15
| Probably not. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:17
I don't know about a new PG album. That could happen but who knows when. As for the five of them getting back together for a live show that seems extremely unlikely to me. I've only seen Genesis live once(in 2007)and as great as it was it was good enough for me(that version of the band anyway). It's like how I have no desire to see Yes again although seeing anyone perform relayer in it's entirety is tempting.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:28
Yeah it seems very unlikely you'll get all five on the same stage. I would love to see the trio, then see Steve and Gabriel on solo tours. As for a Gabriel album, I just don't see why he wouldn't eventually want to make one more? Not necessarily right now, but while he still can. Put a proper cap on his studio catalogue. Perhaps he just doesn't have much inspiration to write anymore. I know he keeps himself busy in other very noble and charitable ways, but I can't help but imagine he must have some musical ideas from the past decade or so worth fleshing out. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:31
Yeah, I don't know. He did release that collaborative thing called Big Blue Ball a while back but I kind of doubt there's something similar sitting in his vaults. He does seem to take a while to record new material though. Maybe he should collaborate with Boston or Tool.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 13:49
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 14:13
I don't know about Boston, but a Tool collaboration could sound like this PG/NIN mashup. https://bit.ly/2LlG7o3" rel="nofollow - bit.ly/2LlG7o3
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 14:39
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Genesis has sucked since 1980. If they have sucked for the past 40 years, no one cares if they release another album. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 15:15
So you're speaking for all Genesis fans?
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 15:40
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I hope not. It would probably be embarrassingly bad. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 16:28
No, just the ones who come on PA and continually vote them as the greatest prog band. I have no interest in Genesis fans who love Sussudio or one of Phil Collins' movie romance tunes. For them, I certainly hope there is a new album they can swoon over. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 18:22
And what of we few who love both eras? ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 19:25
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No. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: August 30 2020 at 19:54
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I’ll never get why a select people get so butthurt over post 1980 genesis here, just don’t listen to it. Lol, complaining on the internet and trying to tear it down for fans who understand and have accepted the progression of the band is just cringe worthy. Maybe try to understand the appeal and if it’s not for you move on, those those 9 pre 1980s albums are still there. It’s the equivalent of people who relentlessly bitch about Dennis Deyoung not being in Styx, it’s just such a silly thing only Boomers complain about. If in 40 years you haven’t been able to find anything to fill that empty prog era genesis hole in your heart maybe it isn’t Genesis that’s the issue. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 00:54
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^ probably because those of a certain age remember hearing Abacab when it first came out. Prog (and good music) was officially dead. At least it seemed that way at the time. Also it a bit laughable to call what happened to Genesis a 'progression'. They accepted the easy money and that's their choice. Of course many did . I remember the cringeworthy interviews with John Wetton and Carl Palmer after they formed Asia believing they were really onto something and not just peddling corporate rock. I sort of bought into it as well but mainly because their was eff all else to listen to in 1983. I remember being at college and room mate was a massive Genesis fan and wanted to big up the latest Shapes album . I didn't want to listen to it and still have not listened to the whole thing. There is no shame in knowing what you like and liking what you know
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 00:54
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Those hoping for another Nursery Cryme or Foxtrot will inevitably be disappointed. But if they ever do make a new studio album, I think it should hark back to And Then There Were Three and Duke. |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 01:07
Some people would say that they sucked since 1975 If they were still good in 1980, there is hope! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 01:52
No there isn't  the world will be a better place without any new  Genesis album, whether new studio, new live or new compilation  Lay it to rest and deal with it dudes.  |
Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 02:46
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It would be interesting to see new Genesis material, but I don't think it has any chance of happening |
Posted By: FatherChristmas
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 03:23
Us few who love both the Gabriel and Collins eras should certainly hope for a new album, since it'll probably be a Collins era album, which is one of the two eras listed above. Trouble is, there have been too many Collins era albums in comparison to Gabriel era albums. ------------- "Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence" - Robert Fripp "I am an anti-Christ" - Johnny Rotten |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 20:05
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Great artists are great artists. I am a massive fan of ALL F***ING Genesis, its excellent music overall. Just like the pre whatever Genesis era music, its all excellent with both eras having some misses here and there. The whole catalog is impressive, I really don't understand why people piss on them, other than its those furrowed brow fanny pack wearing prog fans...."I want Suppers Ready!!!" As a younger listener I never dissected the music like that, when I heard Abacab I liked it because it came from a band that I liked a lot, more great music. When Gabriel and Collins came out with solo albums it was a blessing to hear more music from two great artists that helped build Genesis. -------------
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 20:59
Absolutely agree ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 31 2020 at 23:14
| I'd rather hear some new material from Gabriel. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 01 2020 at 04:47
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Like I said on the Yes thread, I'd probably buy it if it happened. They might still have a couple gems left in their old brains. Anyway, the odds of a new studio album are pretty slim. I think the best chance of them getting together is either a one-off show or a handful of shows. I don't expect Gabriel or Hackett would be involved. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: September 13 2020 at 05:53
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No, for sure. |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 15 2020 at 11:00
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I think that they will never realease another album. If they release another one, i want Ant Phillips in there. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 15 2020 at 11:24
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: September 15 2020 at 12:12
That's an interesting suggestion! Both Steve Hackett and Ant Phillips have been doing guest appearances on other people's albums so why not on an album by their old band. That either of them would re-join the band full-time is not something I think is realistic, however. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 15 2020 at 12:22
Well if you substitute “not something I think is realistic” for “it is utterly impossible“, you would be nearer the truth. It will never happen, and neither should it. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: September 15 2020 at 12:26
Yeah, I agree. Hackett and Phillips are doing well on their own. I was just playing with the thought that they either of them, or both of them, could guest on a new album by the three man line up. Because, why not? |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 06:01
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Now that the band are in rehearsals for the upcoming tour (which has been
postponed a few times), are there any rumours about new material? Is it
possible that some new song(s) will be premiered on the tour? |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 06:10
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 06:43
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This thread is intended for speculation and rumours about a possible new Genesis studio album. There are plenty of other places for debating which era of the band is better... |
Posted By: Cboi Sandlin
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 08:14
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 08:21
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I hope they do, just so we can hear young people say, " Hey, there's a new band out, They sound just like Marillion!"
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 08:54
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Nope. ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 21:30
I don't expect young people to know who Marillion is. I don't even expect people who were young at Marillion's prime to know who Marillion is. |
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: March 29 2021 at 23:51
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Like I've said before, I personally would like it to sound like And Then There Were Three and Duke with traces of Wind And Wuthering  |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 04:15
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No ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: March 30 2021 at 07:31
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I think that time has come and gone. If it didn't happen in/around 2007, it wasn't going to happen. Age, health, lack of inspiration, etc. All these things preclude the amount of time and energy it would entail to create a new Genesis album they all felt was on par with the best they could do. 3-man, 5-man, whatever. Neither Peter nor 3-man has put out a new album in 20+ years. They obviously are preoccupied with something else. Genesis is dead...long live Genesis. |