Some reviews....
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Topic: Some reviews....
Posted By: lovecraft
Subject: Some reviews....
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 02:45
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This is the latest review of ITCOTCK: I agree with many that although this is a groundbreaking recording it si outdated and definitely does not deserve the place in the standings where it is. Much of this album is just boring jams from the musicians. That said it also has two of my all time favorites on it. 21st Century Scizoid man is a great bluesy based jam, not too proggy though I feel. Same with Elp's knife edge by the way which is a very awesome tune, but still not prog to me. Anyway thje other is I talk to the Wind. Something has always kind of drawn me to that one. It getsin my headand stays there... Anyway a good album but not really prog to me. Ah yes, Epitaph and the title track, well known 'boring jams' with no compositional input at all. Possibly the least prog album I know. Oh, and I forgot to mention: a) Hitler is no longer considered a bad man b) black is now white c) Ayreon has a spark of originality d) ELP are subtle e) George Bush is a communist  |
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Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 04:11
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What a freak... I'm scared of such people, real deal psychopaths a) The worst statement ever, That bastard will always be considered a bad man, he was like satan damn it! b) what? are you colourblind? If this is about humans then some people think that the colour of your skin matters (these are the ones without a brain though...) "black is now white"... c) Ayreon... LOL... I've heard that crap... spark? where and how? change that word to "lack" instead. d) ELP are subtle? I must say I love some of their early albums and it's great in all matters... but subtle ain't the word... next please! e) No Comment. ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 04:14
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Aha... I thought this all was his review... LOL at myself! But I still get the point... That one with Hitler was amazing ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
lovecraft wrote:
Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 05:42
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Yes, those last two parts were me being ironic, though I could see how it may have seemed like it was all one piece
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Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 07:04
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Yeah, by doing such a review as he did it was to me obvious that such things could came out of his head. I was thinking, is this reviewer kidding or what but then it was the thread creator itself ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 08:52
I would be interested to know what the reviewer in question thinks *is* progressive.....
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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 09:01
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Saying ITCCK is not progressive is like saying that the Beatles were not
Brit-Pop. Probably a compliment, really. |
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 09:45
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"Royal Jelly's" counter review (posted less than five hours after the original: good reflexes there) balances the critical scales nicely, I thought. Hats off to a well-reasoned, well-written commentary, one of the best and most succinct I've yet read about an album sometimes suffering from ill-considered overexpose. And the Bruford quote is worth remembering for fans who insist their favorite bands play the same old songs again and again... By the way, my 13-year old son dragged me to see the the latest Star Wars movie (again) last night, and I now realize the truth: George Bush is in fact a Sith Lord |
.Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 09:56
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I agree with him in some respects. It is terribly dated and (IMO) very overrated. It wouldn't make my top 100 prog albums. It's prog but not very good prog. Moonchild is one of the worst things I've ever heard on record. Only Epitaph and the title track do anything for me, which is why I gave it a rating of 3*. Sorry, we are entitled to have opinions contrary to the mainstream, you know. |
Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 10:18
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I just wonder if he has been listening to the same album I have
been...'mostly boring jams' and describing 21st CSM as a 'bluesy
jam'...all opinions aside, he is somewhat inaccurate to say the least. But, despite the musical snob within me, I certainly would not want to stifle any expressing of opinion on his part  Though I think a damn good thrashing may be in order, just to set him straight, y'know |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 11:04
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Hi Lovecraft. I'll just take the opportunity to make a general point re your first post. The initial confusion does make for a good reminder to all to make it clear when you are quoting, and when you are adding your own comments. |
Posted By: Astaroth
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 12:02
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When I saw that 2 start reviews i really get DT more progresive than King crimson?? ------------- "I need you more that you can know ... and if I hurt myself it's just for show" |
Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 12:43
I refer the honourable gentleman to a reply I made some moments ago. To be precise, Posted: 02 October 2005 at 05:42
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Posted By: porter
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 16:37
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why don't you all leave that kind of reviews alone once and for all? What the hell do you care if somebody doesn't like your favorite album....if I were to pay attention to the sh*t everybody says about my favorite bands all the time I would already have committed suicide....so live and let live (or let die) *this pearl of wisdom was offered to you by Porter* ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: Starette
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 16:40
------------- 50 tonne angel falls to the earth... |
AYE AYE CABBIN!!! Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 06:12
Oh, silly me, I was thinking this was a forum for discussion and the expressing of opinion. Obviously only some opinions count in your brave new world. |
Posted By: porter
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 07:19
what are we talking about? I just said, take it easy man, if the guy doesn't think that ITCOTCK is prog, well, does it affect your life in any way? I hope not. And, since YOU say that this is a place for discussion and expressing opinions, he has his opinion, you have yours, I have mine, and so on. I don't see the problem, really. Anyway, I was not criticising your rant, which is understandable, I was just suggesting you not to give too much importance to such things. ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 08:16
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We are just having a discussion is all. There is no problem, other than the one that seems to be perceived by you, and you alone it appears. It started out as a bit of fun...not quite sure what sort of discussion you have been observing. |
Posted By: porter
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 06:41
??? ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: Under
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 08:15
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Way to go, guys. Together you spend 4 posts discussing it is not worth to discuss. Porter, to discuss reviews on prog albums is one of the key aspects of the forum of this site.
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Posted By: porter
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 12:53
ok, I think you're perfectly right, but I didn't say "don't discuss". I just say, don't let your life be ruined by a review, which is pretty different. I was PRO Lovecraft, not against him. I only found his reaction to the review a bit too excited...that's all. And I didn't mean to cause such a mess!!! I'm sorry, really. PEACE TO ALL. ....and...let's keep on discussing!!!! ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
