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Topic: Top Albums Algorithm Question
Posted By: nivon
Subject: Top Albums Algorithm Question
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 03:44
Hello.
I was wondering about the Top Albums list algorithm:
https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1#list
To simplify my question into a single example:
how come Beatles "Abbey Road"
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11074
Didn't cut it to the list?
It's score line is:
4.48 | 1026 ratings | 84 reviews | 69% 5 stars
it even states:
Essential: a masterpiece of
rock music

to compare to other album that did make it to the list with less values:
Klaus Schulze / Mirage
https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7630
4.29 | 306 ratings | 25 reviews | 46% 5 stars

(clearly all is less)


so?
Why Mirage got in and Abbey Road not?

related question: I see the Abbey Road album got the sub-genre: Proto-Prog
and I cannot find this sub-genre in the filters... maybe that's why? is this a bug?



Replies:
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 04:44
It's deliberate, The Beatles are classified as Proto-Prog which, along with Prog Related, are not included in the album charts.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:03
Click http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1&ssubgenres=3&ssubgenres=4&ssubgenres=6&ssubgenres=11&ssubgenres=12&ssubgenres=15&ssubgenres=17&ssubgenres=18&ssubgenres=19&ssubgenres=28&ssubgenres=29&ssubgenres=30&ssubgenres=32&ssubgenres=33&ssubgenres=35&ssubgenres=36&ssubgenres=37&ssubgenres=38&ssubgenres=41&ssubgenres=42&ssubgenres=43&ssubgenres=44" rel="nofollow - here  for the whole enchillada.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 20:33
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Click http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1&ssubgenres=3&ssubgenres=4&ssubgenres=6&ssubgenres=11&ssubgenres=12&ssubgenres=15&ssubgenres=17&ssubgenres=18&ssubgenres=19&ssubgenres=28&ssubgenres=29&ssubgenres=30&ssubgenres=32&ssubgenres=33&ssubgenres=35&ssubgenres=36&ssubgenres=37&ssubgenres=38&ssubgenres=41&ssubgenres=42&ssubgenres=43&ssubgenres=44" rel="nofollow - here  for the whole enchillada.
The Beatles sux........Enchilladas are delicious! Clap Big smile


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Posted By: nivon
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 01:45
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Click http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1&ssubgenres=3&ssubgenres=4&ssubgenres=6&ssubgenres=11&ssubgenres=12&ssubgenres=15&ssubgenres=17&ssubgenres=18&ssubgenres=19&ssubgenres=28&ssubgenres=29&ssubgenres=30&ssubgenres=32&ssubgenres=33&ssubgenres=35&ssubgenres=36&ssubgenres=37&ssubgenres=38&ssubgenres=41&ssubgenres=42&ssubgenres=43&ssubgenres=44" rel="nofollow - here  for the whole enchillada.


Thanks :-)
How did you conjure that? Manually edited the URL string and added more sub-genres? (like 37 and 38 for the proto-prog and prog-related?)





Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 02:16
^Yes, that is exactly what I did. This query comprises studio albums of all the subgenres. I looked up the subgenre numbers, added them one by one, and pasted the string "&ssubgenres=" between them. Maybe a bit elaborate, but Proto (37) and PR (38) are excluded by default.



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