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Topic: Your least favorite early Yes album
Posted By: BaldJean
Subject: Your least favorite early Yes album
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 08:40
which is your least favorite of them? my vote goes to "The Yes Album", by the way; I never warmed up to it


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 09:19
Relayer is The Yes Album that's the least favourite of mine by a Fragile margin, although Time and a Word has it that's it's Close to the Edge of being the most popular album amongst Yes fans. Smile


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 09:38

TFTO

Obviously its absence in the poll is a programmed skew. TongueLOL (because it would be a landslide victory)


Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

which is your least favorite of them? my vote goes to "The Yes Album", by the way; I never warmed up to it


That's really too bad, coz....

TYA is by light years the warmest Yes album (and TFTO being the coldest, IMHO)


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 09:54
Best to worst:

1) The Yes Album (despite the stupid title)
2) Relayer
Bit of a gap
3) Close to the Edge
Bit of a gap
4) Fragile
Very, very large gap
5) TFTO (I know it's not in the poll, but that's where I'd put this pile of pretentious, overblown junk)
6) Time and a Word
7) Yes


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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 11:06
Time and A Word doesn't get much time on my turntable.



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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 11:14
I'm not sure why tales isn't mentioned(especially if relayer is)but for me it's the first one.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 11:27
my fault; I simply forgot the album


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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 11:49
 I voted for the Yes Album as well. It is one of those releases where the quality of the music is high, but the quality of the recording is low. Yes, the sound is crisp and clean (except for Clap which sounds like it was recorded in an aluminum culvert) but it is also sterile and lifeless. I much prefer the more robust sound of Yessongs for those classics. Coming up second is Time and a Word with its misplaced orchestrations (although I like the music).

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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 12:13
The Yes Album for me. As Progosopher says the material is great but the dull production ruins a lot of it and the songs seem drained of energy. Yours Is No Disgrace, I've Seen All Good People and Starship Trooper are all much more ballsy on Yessongs. Perpetual Change is the only one that doesn't get smoked by the live version with the the drum solo letting it down on Yessongs. I love the first two Yes albums and play them as much as any of the 'classic' era records.

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 12:15
I don't care about the production of "The Yes Album"; for me the material is not convincing


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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 12:23
I think it's some of their best material. The live versions of Starship Trooper and Yours Is No Disgrace would always be in my Yes Top 10.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 12:29
if Going for the One would have been an option that would have got my vote... by far least favorite classic Yes album.. only one song rocked my world and it was better done on the live Yesshows where Squire blew the studio version to atomic dust man...

of the options..

I guess Time and Word but that is sort of like asking which is your least favorite between smoking brunettes, airheaded blonds or bat sh*t crazy redheads. They all rule...


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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 13:04
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


<font size="7">TFTO

Obviously its absence in the poll is a programmed skew. TongueLOL (because it would be a landslide victory)


Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

which is your least favorite of them? my vote goes to "The Yes Album", by the way; I never warmed up to it


That's really too bad, coz....

TYA is by light years the warmest Yes album (and TFTO being the coldest, IMHO)

Not suprising that a folk fan would hate a proper epic...

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 14:49
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


TFTO

Obviously its absence in the poll is a programmed skew. TongueLOL (because it would be a landslide victory)


Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

which is your least favorite of them? my vote goes to "The Yes Album", by the way; I never warmed up to it


That's really too bad, coz....

TYA is by light years the warmest Yes album (and TFTO being the coldest, IMHO)

I like the live versions of the songs from "The Yes Album", but the studio album just doesn't flow very well. and I can definitely live without "Clap"


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 15:13
Voted debut--which I never liked--but really find it difficult to sit through much from The Yes Album anymore.

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 15:26
I actually don't know the debut, don't like Time and a Word a lot, but find the Yes Album quite enjoyable, along with the rest of the list.


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 17:47
I'm voting "Time and a Word."  I agree with the late Peter Banks, the orchestration goofs up some neat songs.  
The debut has some really strong material that I enjoy to this day!  Yes album remains a classic, I still enjoy it from time to time.



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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 19:34
Well, it's one of the first two. They're alright but pale in comparison to what came after.

It's pretty close since they're virtually at the same level, I probably prefer the debut if I have to choose, so Time and a Word it is. 


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 19:39
Not sure why time and a word gets such a bad rap. The strings never bothered me and it's a big step towards where they wanted to go although admittedly not quite there yet. 


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 21:27
Time & 

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 21:36
Probably their debut S/T album, and it’s a very good first album.


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 23:21
I've never understood the love for Time and a Word, whereas I really enjoyed their first album, even though it wasn't all that original.


Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: July 17 2020 at 23:23
I really like Time and a Word.


Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 00:02
I have never liked "I've seen all good people"... just drags on and on and on... too repetitious.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 00:18
The Yes Album , feels like an album that's having an identity crisis. Howe was adding genius but it was still dragging in places.

btw its a little strange to include Relayer and not TFTO. I guess that was to avoid to the usual magnet for negativity.



Posted By: bender99
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 00:37
Easily the debut out of those mentioned, even tho I still find it pretty good.
I like Time and a Word quite a lot - and the other 4 in the poll are my favourite 4 Yes albums


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 01:06
The debut is very weak compared to what came when howe and wakeman joined....

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 01:28
T&AW, easily.

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 01:42
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The Yes Album , feels like an album that's having an identity crisis. Howe was adding genius but it was still dragging in places.

btw its a little strange to include Relayer and not TFTO. I guess that was to avoid to the usual magnet for negativity.


no, it was a mere oversight by me. maybe unconsciously though because I totally dislike the remastering of "Tales from Topographic Oceans". remastering to get a better sound is fine with me, but when the actual music that was played is changed (sometimes drastically too) it turns me off


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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 02:55
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

The Yes Album , feels like an album that's having an identity crisis. Howe was adding genius but it was still dragging in places.

btw its a little strange to include Relayer and not TFTO. I guess that was to avoid to the usual magnet for negativity.


no, it was a mere oversight by me. maybe unconsciously though because I totally dislike the remastering of "Tales from Topographic Oceans". remastering to get a better sound is fine with me, but when the actual music that was played is changed (sometimes drastically too) it turns me off

It was a good oversight IMHO because it would probably attract most of the votes LOL.


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 03:00
I still would have voted for "Relayer" even if "Tales from Topographic Oceans" had been included in the poll. We'll never know now if the TFTO album would have "won" this poll if it had been included. Smile


Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 04:30
Clearly their debut.

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Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 04:41
I like them all but I'd probably rank Time and a Word at the bottom of this list. It's still a 4 star album for me though

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 04:56
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I'm voting "Time and a Word."  I agree with the late Peter Banks, the orchestration goofs up some neat songs.  
The debut has some really strong material that I enjoy to this day!  Yes album remains a classic, I still enjoy it from time to time.


That was my vote since TFTO wasn't a possibility

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I'd agree that GFTO is fairly weak: if it wasn't for Awaken in there, it'd be their weakest album to date. Not that Tormato or Drama wouldn't have bettered it


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 04:57
The first one but it's still a very enjoyable album. TYA is my favourite overall. T&AW is on my top 5, I have a soft spot for those orchestral bits.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 10:43
I don't really know how to vote on this one. Fragile and CttE are my absolute favourites from Yes, so they are out of the vote for me. And Relayer has Gates of Delirium (though I much prefer the Symphonic Live version). The Yes album is a strong candidate, since the only song I really like there is Starship Trooper, and I also much prefer the live version of it, on Keys to Ascension... but if I don't consider voting for Relayer because of GoD, I guess I shouldn't vote for TYA either. So, I guess it's got to be Time and a Word, even if I do like the title song well enough (once again, specially live, on Keys to Ascension). By the way, on the debut the one song I love is Harold Land... vastly underrated / overlooked song as far as I'm concerned (as much as I dislike the overrated / underrated concepts).


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 10:44
Least favorite...the first one.........,Astral Traveller saves Time and A Word for me.
And it amazes me that people don't like The Yes Album..one of their best....and for me Starship Trooper is sim-ply one of the finest things they ever wrote....period.



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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 16:54
The Yes Album. I like it, but it's never been in my favorites list.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 20:07
Originally posted by cemego cemego wrote:

I have never liked "I've seen all good people"... just drags on and on and on... too repetitious.

That's intentional though. 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 20:08
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Least favorite...the first one.........,Astral Traveller saves Time and A Word for me.
And it amazes me that people don't like The Yes Album..one of their best....and for me Starship Trooper is sim-ply one of the finest things they ever wrote....period.


Starship Trooper is great but most of the live versions are better than the studio version.


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: July 18 2020 at 22:52
First album, although I love also that really much! Anyway I think they went really much forward in "Time and a Word", it rises almost into level of "the Yes Album" for me.


Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 00:13
The first two records are a bit worse, IMO, but all of them are great.
Come on, guys, The Yes Album rules!

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 00:56
Yes never had a wek album until the 80’s (or 90’s, depending on taste).


Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 07:23
I can't really vote as I haven't listened to the first two albums in their entirety (I do like the song Time and a Word though). Of the ones I have listened to, it would have to be Relayer. Apart from the "Soon" section, which is beautiful, I find the rest of the album cacophonous.


Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 09:01
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

 I voted for the Yes Album as well. It is one of those releases where the quality of the music is high, but the quality of the recording is low. Yes, the sound is crisp and clean (except for Clap which sounds like it was recorded in an aluminum culvert) but it is also sterile and lifeless. I much prefer the more robust sound of Yessongs for those classics. Coming up second is Time and a Word with its misplaced orchestrations (although I like the music).


Wow, I agree the production of The Yes Album is rather flat and lifeless, but I think Yesshows is an even worse recording.

Another album from virtually the same time which I thought was spoiled by a flat lifeless production was ''Nursery Chryme'


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 15:00
Production...?  Who cares if  the 'production' is flat....Yours Is No Disgrace ,  Trooper, and Perpetual Change are effing brilliant tunes....'nuff said.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 19 2020 at 15:15
Tales from Topographic Oceans (which is not in the poll) :)

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 20 2020 at 00:46
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Production...?  Who cares if  the 'production' is flat....Yours Is No Disgrace ,  Trooper, and Perpetual Change are effing brilliant tunes....'nuff said.
Wink

all better 'live' though Smile


Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: July 20 2020 at 08:30
Debut, but it's a really good album. All of these early records are great, especially Close to the Edge. Embarrassed


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 00:38
Originally posted by Upbeat Tango Monday Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:

The first two records are a bit worse, IMO, but all of them are great.
Come on, guys, The Yes Album rules!

What is it with The Yes Album? The production or something? It's as good as anything the band have ever come up with in my opinion.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 01:44
I think "Tormato" was the only relatively weak album from the classic 1970's years of Yes, but it was still a lot better than what came later in the form of "Big Generator". Smile


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 02:31
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Upbeat Tango Monday Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:

The first two records are a bit worse, IMO, but all of them are great.
Come on, guys, The Yes Album rules!

What is it with The Yes Album? The production or something? It's as good as anything the band have ever come up with in my opinion.

I think it's because people tend to associate Yes with Fragile and onward. The actual songs themselves on The Yes Album are fine, but I can see why they'd leave some wanting more.


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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: July 21 2020 at 07:50
Have to go with the debut. They were just finding their way and hadn't yet developed in to what they would ultimately become. 


Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 01:46
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Upbeat Tango Monday Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:

The first two records are a bit worse, IMO, but all of them are great.
Come on, guys, The Yes Album rules!


What is it with The Yes Album? The production or something? It's as good as anything the band have ever come up with in my opinion.


I think it's because people tend to associate Yes with Fragile and onward. The actual songs themselves on The Yes Album are fine, but I can see why they'd leave some wanting more.


Well, if I had to make a guess, it might just be that it's the only classic Yes album without a 10+ minute song (three of them are close, though). If I had to make an even better guess: TYA lacks Wakeman. Structurally speaking, TYA and Fragile aren't that dissimilar. I

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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 14:14
The first two just don't compare. At all. Apples and oranges.

Time And A Word would be my least favorite but it's still pretty decent.


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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: July 22 2020 at 23:40
Never thought I would hear folks beating on The Yes Album. my top 3 Yes albums are Fragile, The Yes Album and CTTE. In that order.

For this poll Yes gets the vote


Posted By: thief
Date Posted: July 23 2020 at 00:06
Probably Time and a Word although the separation between 1 and 2 is thin.
The Yes Album is great, 4 classic songs and not much filler... even though I prefer excitement of live versions. If only live setting had the studio quality! Anyways, it's very close to prime Yes in terms of ideas, but the proper "sound" only revealed itself on Fragile.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 10:11
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Yes never had a weak album until the 80’s (or 90’s, depending on taste).

Tormato and ABWH for me are weak. 


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 10:26
A toss up between the first two - voted for the eponymous debut. 'The Yes Album' is where they started to get into their creative stride for me.

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 10:39
Yes: Debut (just)

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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 10:39
The debut album - Yes Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 10:44
None. I like them all. Smile


Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 10:51
Debut, but still it's a decent album.


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 11:41
The debut for me although I still like it quite a bit. Time and a word sounds much more adventurous to me.



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