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Topic: Inactive PollPosted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Inactive Poll
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 02:50
I've been a bit inactive on the polling front just lately, so here's a poll to find out what you'd all like to see more of, or even less of.
Replies: Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 04:43
Something different. I started a topic "song of the week" recently. The rules were post a song from an artist that is relatively unknown (from the last 20 years) and discuss. Every week a new song would be added. One member would control the selection for three weeks and then pass the torch on to a different member. The goal of this was to bring exposure to new artists. Of course, the topic was an epic fail. Very few responses.
I would like discussions of current music more than the endless talk/polls of bands from 50 years ago.
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 08:12
Whatever you want to do, Paul. Thank you for all of your hard work. Some of us really appreciate it and look forward to whatever direction you go next. You should consider writing a book called: "Proto-Prog 1968-1971."
I'd buy a copy.
------------- The Prog Corner
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 08:22
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Something different. I started a topic "song of the week" recently. The rules were post a song from an artist that is relatively unknown (from the last 20 years) and discuss. Every week a new song would be added. One member would control the selection for three weeks and then pass the torch on to a different member. The goal of this was to bring exposure to new artists. Of course, the topic was an epic fail. Very few responses.
Thanks for the mention of your "Song of the Week" thread. That particular thread completely passed me by at the time you posted it, just as it did with many other PA members too, apparently. Anyway, I hope your "Song of the Week" thread won't be quite such an "epic fail" now, because I just posted an obscure favourite of mine on there by Weyes Blood, having just checked to make sure she's not on ProgArchives.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 08:25
miamiscot wrote:
Whatever you want to do, Paul. Thank you for all of your hard work. Some of us really appreciate it and look forward to whatever direction you go next. You should consider writing a book called: "Proto-Prog 1968-1971."
I'd buy a copy.
Thanks for your kind words. I think my Prog Britannia blog is probably long enough to fill a whole book by now.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 08:47
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Something different. I started a topic "song of the week" recently. The rules were post a song from an artist that is relatively unknown (from the last 20 years) and discuss. Every week a new song would be added. One member would control the selection for three weeks and then pass the torch on to a different member. The goal of this was to bring exposure to new artists. Of course, the topic was an epic fail. Very few responses.
I would like discussions of current music more than the endless talk/polls of bands from 50 years ago.
I had missed that poll, I think because I usually don't get into doing polls. That being said, I joined in on the Not Prog poll and found that fun, since it was all different kinds of music and then went on to do the related lesser-known Prog poll. These I have enjoyed, since it's less feeling of competition, more of sharing what we like outside of progressive music and also sharing what we think is deserving that isn't the the "usual suspects." I've enjoyed the discussions in those topics as well.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 11:19
The general consensus so far seems to be that there are too many polls already.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 11:28
I do think there are too many polls and top ten list type topics going on most of the time. I'd like to see a wider variety of actual back-and-forth discussions. Too many topics generally, though, going on at any one time can dilute conversations too much methinks. I rather liked that at my old board we only had a few forums and not many active topics every day so all ended up talking together more (we also only had fewer active members so we were closer-knit).
I'll vote for something completely different. I want a wider variety of conversations, especially non-music ones, but not so many active topics at a given time that it becomes hard to engage with people at a fairly deep dive conversational level, and even in back-and-forth casual chit-chat. I'm not as into discussing politics here as some others as it gets very confrontational and I hate angry, sarcastic confrontation despite having put myself into it far too many times (I enjoy a synthesis of ideas and topics that facilitate non nit-picky types of conversations).
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 11:45
Any twonk who tries to claim that the beastie boys is feckin prog, or that Simon amd Garfinkel are Genius or that the fickin beetlez is worth listening to...😎
------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 11:52
Personally, I find the interactive Top 5 Songs threads and the Create Your Own Album threads are the most entertaining of all, and those are the kind of thread topics I've been contributing to most recently, having just about run out of ideas for more new polls, apart from this one of course.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 12:08
To each his or her own. What sometimes put me off at this board is when you look at active topics and there are whole bunch of very similar topics going on at the same time. I do appreciate variety and wish there was a greater variety of topics and active discussions. Sometimes I want to engage with people in the moment, sometimes I want more time to explore and reflect on ideas. I definitely am more of an ideas driven person, even if they are not good ideas, than pragmatic.... I do like music polls where I discover new and interesting to me music and hopefully others do the same with my choices which is why I love the concept of the Interactive polls. I'm not interested in the umpteenth Genesis or Yes poll. I'm guilty of doing the same kinds of music again and again and not keeping it fresh (say with Magma, Comus and Robert Wyatt). I do like those polls and topics commonly where the topic poll starter tries to keep engaged with those who post in the topics no matter the topic as long as the OP is reasonably open-minded and cordial, and preferably has a sense of humour.
If doing music polls, I would like more focus on obscurities and less Prog ones. I'm not into contest type polls or topics generally (where it matters to anyone who is in the lead) -- making sport of art so to speak.
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 14:05
Hi,
As long as it does not become a comparison ... which is better kind of thing ... I don't mind ... but I get tired of folks not talking about the whole thing as an art form ... it's all about their favorite jam, and "best" this or that, and that gets tiring, since it is pretty obvious that the "history" and other musicians are not even considered for their work.
All in all, fun polls are more like it for me.
All in all, I don't really enjoy participating in these. I prefer stuff/information that helps us understand and appreciate an artist ... not stuff that is meaningless. Music/Art for me is not a meaningless exercise ... it's a way of life and love!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 14:15
^^ I'm guilty of posting my own share of Genesis and Yes polls too. The threads where I've generally discovered the most new music are the whole album threads, such as the "A-Z of Japanese Psychedelia" thread which I'm currently working on right now. I've listened to every album I've posted so far, most of which I'm hearing for the first time. ProgArchives is an endless resource for discovering new music and there's hardly a day goes by when I don't discover an amazing "new" album from the archives that I'd never heard before. I'll soon be entering my sophomore year here at the University of Prog, when my second semester begins in September.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 14:19
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
As long as it does not become a comparison ... which is better kind of thing ... I don't mind ... but I get tired of folks not talking about the whole thing as an art form ... it's all about their favorite jam, and "best" this or that, and that gets tiring, since it is pretty obvious that the "history" and other musicians are not even considered for their work.
All in all, fun polls are more like it for me.
All in all, I don't really enjoy participating in these. I prefer stuff/information that helps us understand and appreciate an artist ... not stuff that is meaningless. Music/Art for me is not a meaningless exercise ... it's a way of life and love!
I happen to like Meaningless Songs in Very High Voices
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 14:33
Non-Prog Polls, man (and woman) cannot live by prog alone.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 14:45
dwill123 wrote:
Non-Prog Polls, man (and woman) cannot live by prog alone.
Sounds good to me. I'll see what I can come up with. I think endless prog polls featuring "The Big Six" have probably been done to death by now.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 14:50
As Monty Python would say "now for something completely different."
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 15:18
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
As Monty Python would say "now for something completely different."
Yes, I borrowed my tenth poll option from Monty Python.
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 15:21
Ok. Its a prog site. For prog people. We will have no trouble here!!!!
------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 15:54
I quite like the album ratings out of 10 polls of late. It's interesting to see the statistical shape of the responses as well as people's opinions. Ignoring the ones who give a low rating to provoke, and then the uber-fans who will have nothing to say negative about any albums from certain bands..., there is gold in between!
------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 16:57
I think what needs to be kept in mind is that different PA members want different things and have different amounts of time to spend on the forum.
I love the in depth discussions, and would love to spend much more time having long debates on the forum, but, with a very busy work schedule, and commitments outside of work, the time I can spend is limited.
The polls are a good way for members who don't have a lot of spare time to interact in the forum.
Whilst a lot of the polls on the "big six" are like groundhog day, I still enjoy being reminded about these great albums, and I still enjoy the polls
What I'm saying is that the forum needs a bit of both. Something for everyone. Opportunities for longer in depth discussions for those that want it, and quick dip in dip out polls for those who don't have as much time.
------------- Songs cast a light on you
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 00:08
It's funny that the two options that appeal to me the most - the Create Your Own Albums threads and the Top 5 Songs polls - are the two options that no one's so far voted for.
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 00:28
Yeah...but the insidious, thin end of the wedgie is the elephant in the room. A lot want to ditch the prog dinosaurs to talk about Dolly Partons Bra size or how much the beatles accelerated the sales of St Michaels best seller...not to mention that Genesis only got interesting once they ditched all that prog nonsense and let collins out of his pop box...
------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 00:52
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
It's funny that the two options that appeal to me the most - the Create Your Own Albums threads and the Top 5 Songs polls - are the two options that no one's so far..
I have often hypothesized on the alternative history. Where SEBTP was a double album and phil collins was shot by a time travelling shape changing alien...not much stomach for extension for most here. They get bored and put the beastie boys on...
------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 07:47
Squonk19 wrote:
I quite like the album ratings out of 10 polls of late. It's interesting to see the statistical shape of the responses as well as people's opinions. Ignoring the ones who give a low rating to provoke, and then the uber-fans who will have nothing to say negative about any albums from certain bands..., there is gold in between!
Hi,
I appreciate, specially, the one thread where I made the comment about the top 30 not being doubled up as the same band, and immediately a whole bunch of folks posted listings with 30 different bands ... that was exciting, and thrilling, and far out for me ... for once ... I REALLY HAD SOME LISTENING TO DO ... instead of seeing the same damned things listed!
And yes, there are some great people here, many times. I think I need a nap now!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 26 2020 at 09:41
I've discovered more new music here on the Album Ratings threads than anywhere else, especially with regard to The Enid recently, where I found all of their albums on YouTube and then shared them with my proggy friends here. That was a real voyage of discovery. I'll have another Album Ratings thread coming up for you all soon, featuring the solo albums of Tony Banks, the legendary keyboard player with Genesis, having just discovered all of his full albums are currently available on YouTube.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 13:06
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
...
I happen to like Meaningless Songs in Very High Voices
...
Hi,
I do too, but in a satirical mode, I love the things most people do not listen to ... like just spinning Pinball Wizard by Roger Ruskin Spear ... and both his albums are totally magnificent and out of this world ... but no one listens to them because it isn't crappy "prog" or "related" to prog.
I'm playing THE GOONS "Unchained Melodies" next ... "I'm Walking Backwards for Christmas" ... in on! And I think I will graduate to Randy Racquel after that ... I miss the loon'ery from my favorite social club of all ... being a charter member of the no longer existent "how sweet to be an idiot" club. I even miss the bit that no one has seen, or get ... their silent stint in "The Magical Mystery Tour" ... the very best thing in that silly excuse for a film!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 14:36
^^ Yes, I also meant I like "Meaningless Songs" in a satirical way, although I really DO like the real Bee Gees too, even though it may be considered a "Tragedy" to admit that on a Prog-Rock website.
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 16:52
Polls are probably the easiest way for those who are unable/unwilling to voice their own opinions to contribute to the site. Perhaps having too many of these is one the reasons most discussion threads never develop very far?
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 18:16
Logan wrote:
I do think there are too many polls and top ten list type topics going on most of the time. I'd like to see a wider variety of actual back-and-forth discussions. Too many topics generally, though, going on at any one time can dilute conversations too much methinks. I rather liked that at my old board we only had a few forums and not many active topics every day so all ended up talking together more (we also only had fewer active members so we were closer-knit).
I'll vote for something completely different. I want a wider variety of conversations, especially non-music ones, but not so many active topics at a given time that it becomes hard to engage with people at a fairly deep dive conversational level, and even in back-and-forth casual chit-chat. I'm not as into discussing politics here as some others as it gets very confrontational and I hate angry, sarcastic confrontation despite having put myself into it far too many times (I enjoy a synthesis of ideas and topics that facilitate non nit-picky types of conversations).
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 20:48
There are indeed too many polls. I particularly find all those "rate teh album 1-10" polls kinda meh. But. What I'd like to see more of, are threads that spur discussions. Something inspiring. I dunno.
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 27 2020 at 23:14
ExittheLemming wrote:
Polls are probably the easiest way for those who are unable/unwilling to voice their own opinions to contribute to the site. Perhaps having too many of these is one the reasons most discussion threads never develop very far?
The same thing probably applies to voting in a polling booth during a general election: if voters had to write a long essay on their ballot paper giving a detailed explanation of why they're voting for a particular candidate instead of simply placing an "X" in a box, then I'm guessing not many people would bother turning up to vote.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 00:30
I quite like favourite album polls as they occasionally give me useful recommendations as long as it doesn't always include the obvious ones!
The top five songs polls are good fun , no issue with those!
Also like the 'make your own album' threads , again they are just a fun thing.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 00:53
richardh wrote:
I quite like favourite album polls as they occasionally give me useful recommendations as long as it doesn't always include the obvious ones!
The top five songs polls are good fun , no issue with those!
Also like the 'make your own album' threads , again they are just a fun thing.
That's good to know. I have a brand new Make Your Own Jon and Vangelis Album thread up-and-running and I'll have another Top 5 Songs poll coming up shortly, although I haven't decided who the featured artist is going to be yet.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 01:07
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
richardh wrote:
I quite like favourite album polls as they occasionally give me useful recommendations as long as it doesn't always include the obvious ones!
The top five songs polls are good fun , no issue with those!
Also like the 'make your own album' threads , again they are just a fun thing.
That's good to know. I have a brand new Make Your Own Jon and Vangelis Album thread up-and-running and I'll have another Top 5 Songs poll coming up shortly, although I haven't decided who the featured artist is going to be yet.
I'm struggling to find that one. Did you post it in the wrong forum by mistake?
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 01:23
^ found it in the prog-related lounge , somewhere I don't normally go
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 01:35
richardh wrote:
^ found it in the prog-related lounge , somewhere I don't normally go
I wasn't sure whether to post it there or in the usual Top 10 Lists thread.
You may have inspired me to create a Billy Joel Top 5 Songs poll, having just taken a look at the Song of the Week thread.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 03:26
Hi,
Honestly?
WE NEED A BOTTOM 5 LISTING ... tired of the top of the pops sch mucking!
... and THE MASKED MARAUDERS can't count ... it's not progressive at all ... it's so regressive, it's funny! But, c'mon ... even drunk we all would like to sing Duke of Earl ... or Season of the Witch done up properly and with the guest vocalists!
Even Micky would appreciate this one!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 03:51
^^ You just named one of my favourite songs.....
Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & the Trinity - Season of the Witch
It's time for me to start putting together my Billy Joel Top 5 Songs list now.
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 04:27
Something completely different - though I admit, I have absolutely no idea what that could be at this time.
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 04:48
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Something completely different - though I admit, I have absolutely no idea what that could be at this time.
I've no idea either, so I'll have to leave it to you or someone else to come up with something completely different.
By the way, for an "Inactive Poll", this thread has been pretty active.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 28 2020 at 09:24
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
^^ You just named one of my favourite songs.....
Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & the Trinity - Season of the Witch
...
It's time for me to start putting together my Billy Joel Top 5 Songs list now.
Guy Guden in his early days in Santa Barbara used to do up a heck of a fun/crazy show on Halloween ... and one of the far out features, were about 6 different versions of "SOTW" back to back .... Brian/Julie's is nice, but not the best one ... and hearing sound effects going crazy at different speeds and backwards, was down right hilarious and entertaining ... but "radio" today is dead and gone ... and no one listens to it anymore!
His show, SPACE PIRATE RADIO is still on, and is, STILL, the most progressive, entertaining and out there thing in music ... and it's amazing some 46.5 years going ... helping new music stand up ... even PA can not conceive of that!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 29 2020 at 04:59
^^^ Space Pirate Radio sounds like my kind of radio show! ^^^
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 11:01
Hi,
Sidebar comment:
A psychic friend of mine used to do a lot of workshops and he always had over 50 folks show up in any given night. One of his stories was how we always like to "create boxes" for things to do and think while trying to improve the inner process ... and one day he cautioned us ... just remember that one day you are going to have to create a box to delete/remove all boxes, and you won't be able to do it!
In other words ... another poll is not the answer! All we're doing is adding to the confusion and keep thinking that we're making things better or worse ... our inner selves, are not that methodical, and neither are we that mechanical, or dedicated ... which means that creating a "process" is a dead end.
So your next question, obviously, is ... now what ... and you have to remember the one thing that has always been said by thousands of mystics ... it starts with YOU ... and it ends with YOU ... and a recipe is not going to help, since you will change it as time goes by anyway!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 08 2020 at 11:25
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
Sidebar comment:
A psychic friend of mine used to do a lot of workshops and he always had over 50 folks show up in any given night. One of his stories was how we always like to "create boxes" for things to do and think while trying to improve the inner process ... and one day he cautioned us ... just remember that one day you are going to have to create a box to delete/remove all boxes, and you won't be able to do it!
In other words ... another poll is not the answer! All we're doing is adding to the confusion and keep thinking that we're making things better or worse ... our inner selves, are not that methodical, and neither are we that mechanical, or dedicated ... which means that creating a "process" is a dead end.
So your next question, obviously, is ... now what ... and you have to remember the one thing that has always been said by thousands of mystics ... it starts with YOU ... and it ends with YOU ... and a recipe is not going to help, since you will change it as time goes by anyway!
In that case, if it all starts with ME, I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing, which is more Polls, more Top 7 Lists, more Album Ratings threads, and more Create Your Own Album threads.