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Topic: The Beatles albums vs The Who albums
Posted By: Mortte
Subject: The Beatles albums vs The Who albums
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 21:46
This idea came from the thread, where we have talked with Yesesis about the Beatles / the Stones / the Who. I believe Beatles will win this, but not really sure. I am going to vote Who, this would be harder if Beatles had made same kind of masterpiece in the seventies as Whoīs Quadrophenia. Naturally when I put The Who Sell Out instead of Whoīs Next points will go to the Beatles, but to me The Who Sell Out is their greatest album, also I wanted another album from the sixties to the Who.



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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 22:59
The Who rock......the Beatles pop.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 00:09
The Beatles, with the remark that if The Who Sell Out or Tommy were replaced by Who's Next, I might have chosen otherwise.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 02:30
As a young teenager these were my 2 favourite bands. Both are massively important in my eyes.

Based on this selection of albums I go Beatles but Quadrophenia is one hell of an album. Full on prog imo.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 05:22
Beatles + 1

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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 11:06
Originally posted by Mormegil Mormegil wrote:

Beatles + 1

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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 11:40
Went with The Beatles but if you replace The Who Sells out with Who's Next that would make it a tough choice for me.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 12:12
The Beatles, but The Who come close.


Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 19:36
Yeah of course the Beatles. 


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 21:43
I was expecting Beatles win, but not this obviously. Some years ago here were also others than Catcher who donīt respect Beatles at all. Also I think Tommy & Quadrophenia are much more prog than any of those Beatles albums. To me personally "the Who sell out" rises in the level of "Revolver" & "Sgt" and "Tommy" & "Quadrophenia" are better albums than "Abbey Road", although really love also those all Beatles albums! I have little bit doubts every Beatles voters not listened "The Who Sell Out", maybe not even "Tommy" or "Quadrophenia" as whole, specially those who havenīt written anything about their voting.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 09:58
The Who is more my cup of tea, i like the Beatles but they don't tickle my imagination as much as the Who. The were more punky and had more power. They put punky and artsy in a very nice blend. One of the most powerfull units of rock, perhaps the most viberant and inspirational unit of musicians. Truly viberant music.

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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 11:33
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

The Who is more my cup of tea, i like the Beatles but they don't tickle my imagination as much as the Who. The were more punky and had more power. They put punky and artsy in a very nice blend. One of the most powerfull units of rock, perhaps the most viberant and inspirational unit of musicians. Truly viberant music.
I think very much same way, although also Beatles do tickle my imagination. Anyway I think the Who is one of the rare bands that have done almost every styles of popular music and also succeeded in that!


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 13:02
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

The Who is more my cup of tea, i like the Beatles but they don't tickle my imagination as much as the Who. The were more punky and had more power. They put punky and artsy in a very nice blend. One of the most powerfull units of rock, perhaps the most viberant and inspirational unit of musicians. Truly viberant music.
I think very much same way, although also Beatles do tickle my imagination. Anyway I think the Who is one of the rare bands that have done almost every styles of popular music and also succeeded in that!
The Beatles tickles my imaginations indeed, but the Who tickles it more.

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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 22:01
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I was expecting Beatles win, but not this obviously. Some years ago here were also others than Catcher who donīt respect Beatles at all. Also I think Tommy & Quadrophenia are much more prog than any of those Beatles albums. To me personally "the Who sell out" rises in the level of "Revolver" & "Sgt" and "Tommy" & "Quadrophenia" are better albums than "Abbey Road", although really love also those all Beatles albums! I have little bit doubts every Beatles voters not listened "The Who Sell Out", maybe not even "Tommy" or "Quadrophenia" as whole, specially those who havenīt written anything about their voting.

I voted Beatles but I know all those albums of The Who and I don't disagree with what you say except to say that you have The Who competing against the greatest pop album of all time in Revolver. If you had framed the question as which is more prog I would have given it to The Who, but really there's not a lot of prog in either.


Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 00:39
This is easy AFAIC. Love The Who, but Townshend was rarely able to pull of an album without a few 'meh' tracks. Tommy probably isn't his fault: it had the material, but I always thought it was marred by a lifeless production. 

I'd say the real late 60's competition for The Beatles, as far as studio albums go, was The Kinks. From 68 to 70 I think I'd actually take 'Village Green', 'Arthur' and 'Lola' over 'White Album', 'Let it Be' and 'Abbey Road' - and I don't say that lightly.




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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 01:58
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I was expecting Beatles win, but not this obviously. Some years ago here were also others than Catcher who donīt respect Beatles at all. Also I think Tommy & Quadrophenia are much more prog than any of those Beatles albums. To me personally "the Who sell out" rises in the level of "Revolver" & "Sgt" and "Tommy" & "Quadrophenia" are better albums than "Abbey Road", although really love also those all Beatles albums! I have little bit doubts every Beatles voters not listened "The Who Sell Out", maybe not even "Tommy" or "Quadrophenia" as whole, specially those who havenīt written anything about their voting.

I voted Beatles but I know all those albums of The Who and I don't disagree with what you say except to say that you have The Who competing against the greatest pop album of all time in Revolver. If you had framed the question as which is more prog I would have given it to The Who, but really there's not a lot of prog in either.
Well as far as I know, there are proglisteners who donīt like Beatles at all. Also, the question was "which are yr favorites", not "Which are all time best albums". I am also thinking Beatles is all the way more important band than Who, I believe Who just like many other great acts havenīt ever made their great albums without Beatles.


Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 06:13
The Who. Quadrophenia and Tommy make coherent concepts (ok Tommy can be  a little out there). But it does have See me Feel me and few numbers match the emotonal and compositional quality once he and his band have the idea.

Sell Out is a good comparison to Pepper. The genius of Pepper is after the holiday camp cartoon fantasy is the placement of A Day In The Life - on it's own an incredible piece. But it's bleak realism after the Carry On iness of the rest gives the album a gravity at last. But Sell Out is a radio station to a holiday camp and the Psychedelic fantasy of Armenia does the reverse of the Beatles by taking the relaism away and going full out trippy. Townshend's rare ballads demonstrate an exquisite melody not even he managed. Now go directly to The Kinks.

Revolver may be the best Beatles record. But Quadrophenia with tunes, performance, story cohesion and the outstanding Love Reign O'er Me puts it in the stratosphere - if it wasn't there already. It captures a spirit of a time but it doesn't date. Day In The Life does, but in a good, appropriate way. Bit like a movie when Oliver Reed or Michael Caine turn up as McCartney pokes his cheery nose in Lennon's dark lyric and serves to only highlight the cynical appraisal of Lennon's work.

Abbey Road is pretty good. But Mean Mr Mustard and Polythene Pam...? Bit lightweight here. Lucky it's not being pitched up against the Stones' Let It Bleed where Midnight Rambler and Gimme Shelter's devastation blows away the Abbey Road. Good stuff on side 1 though. Lennon utterly original and in fine form. McCartney should have let him re write his pop suite then there might be some fireworks instead of this safe little cartoon world.

Revolver 4.5 to Sell Out's 4.5
Pepper 4  to Tommy's 4.5
Abbey Road 3.5 to Quadrophenia 5.



Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 20:02
Revolver goes through the stratosphere as well as Quadrophenia. The rest I pretty much agree with although I wouldn't said that A Day In The Life is dated. My take:
Revolver 5 to Sell Out 4
Pepper 5 to Tommy 3.5
Abbey Road 3.5 to Quadrophenia 5


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 05 2020 at 21:16
Both sets are great but it's hard to top those Beatles albums.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 06 2020 at 03:54
The Who for me. I really dig two of those Beatles album but never really succumbed to Sgt Pepper’s supposedly masterly ways.
The Beatles is a band I cherish far more for what they did to ‘open up’ the world of music and what one indeed could do with it...rather than actually jumping up and down about the actual meat and potatoes of the music. I always prefered The Stones and The Who.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 06 2020 at 06:18
interesting...

Beatles made better albums... the Who were a better band..

in fact it gets down to something that certain bands shared. Not surprisingly my top 3 bands alltime all share.

the ABB, JA, and the Who.

anyone sharp enough to note what they share..


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 06 2020 at 08:37
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

interesting...

Beatles made better albums... the Who were a better band..

...

Hi,

I would agree to this, only in that you could not see the Beatles in concert like we could The Who. If the Beatles had done a bunch of concerts that neared anywhere close to the songs they did on top of the building, they would probably have a lot more respect and appreciation. They could still play together and then some!

As far as the studio is concerned, I would have to say that the Beatles, were much more interesting and better because they had GEORGE MARTIN ... and if you really want to learn something about GM, try listening to the redone Goon shows in the BBC, and pay special attention to the sound effects ... all of them done (for the most part) with GM, who stated in his special that doing comedy really helped because what you have to do is make it work even better. And he did albums for Peter Sellers where you can see a wonderful blend of comedy, voices, style and sound ... and I'm not sure it could be done with an amateur at hand.

Some folks don't think that GM was that valuable, but when you see his special, there is reason to believe that he was the 5th Beatle, and a much more important person in the studio than anything else, specially helping put it all together.

The Who, became the darlings of the concert scene when Keith started copying Legs Larry Smith (Bonzo Dog Band) who used to smash and kick the drums at the end of their show. And it helped give The Who some notoriety ... but the fans ignored the BDB ... but in case you are bored, you really ought to go listen to Roger Ruskin Spear's version of that one WHO song ... it's better than the original by miles!!!


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Posted By: bender99
Date Posted: June 07 2020 at 09:28
I prefer the Who over the Beatles, but for this poll the Beatles just comes out on top. Stick Who's Next into the mix though and I would've voted the other way.


Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: June 09 2020 at 17:49
I wish I could vote for 1 Beatles album (Revolver) and 1 Who album (Sell Out).


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 10 2020 at 09:29
Hi,

I was thinking that The Beatles had already paved the road when The Who showed up ... as such, The Beatles would be the more valuable of the two. But I think that The Who gave it more personality that was not as strict and "composed" as The Beatles were until the WHITE ALBUM when they showed the fracture and the breaks and GM was probably not putting his hand on it. And all this showed on the LET IT BE album as well.


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Posted By: Lieutenant_Lan
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 09:37
Revolver alone will do it


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 09:41
Revolver/ Sgt Pepper / Abbey Road

These are in my opinion the top 3 best Beatles albums!

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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 10:42
The Beatles

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 11:16
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

interesting...

Beatles made better albums... the Who were a better band..

in fact it gets down to something that certain bands shared. Not surprisingly my top 3 bands alltime all share.

the ABB, JA, and the Who.

anyone sharp enough to note what they share..
More than one lead singer in the band.


Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 11:35
The Liverpool ones.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 25 2021 at 19:53
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

interesting...

Beatles made better albums... the Who were a better band..

in fact it gets down to something that certain bands shared. Not surprisingly my top 3 bands alltime all share.

the ABB, JA, and the Who.

anyone sharp enough to note what they share..
Forget that first guess up there, it was wrong, its the bass players.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 02:54
With some reluctance I'll vote for The Who. None of those Beatles albums do as much for me as Quadrophenia, although Abbey Road and Revolver are great albums. I've heard Sgt Pepper enough now.

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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 03:26
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Revolver/ Sgt Pepper / Abbey Road

These are in my opinion the top 3 best Beatles albums!

This ^


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 18:11
Why was who's next left off? I imagine the who would have had more votes if it was on there instead of the who sell out.


Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: February 26 2021 at 20:23
Those are some top tier Beatles albums, and as someone who generally prefers to listen to The Who over The Beatles, I had to choose Beatles for this one.




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Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: February 27 2021 at 08:06
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Why was who's next left off? I imagine the who would have had more votes if it was on there instead of the who sell out.


Of course they would!



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