Led Zeppelin vs Jethro Tull
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Topic: Led Zeppelin vs Jethro Tull
Posted By: Enchant X
Subject: Led Zeppelin vs Jethro Tull
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 02:00
I was in a chatroom recently and somebody said Led Zeppelin were the best band ever while others agreed, so I thought I'd put them up against a band barely in the big 5 top prog bands (not that I agree with that system either) and find out. I chose Jethro Tull because I believe King Crimson, PinK Floyd, Yes or Genesis would have won too easily especially on this progressive website
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 02:46
JT, easy
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 04:08
They're chalk and cheese.Tull were a great blues/folk/hard rock prog band, and Zeppelin were a great hard rock band with some prog tendencies.
Some days I would love to listen to Aqualung or Heavy Horses, but on other days my choice would be Led Zep 3 or Physical Graffiti.
Impossible to make a rational choice.
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 04:18
Tull by a bit. The remix series is the best ever released
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 04:46
I really enjoy both, but Jethro Tull probably has a little bit more for me personally. I'd choose both if it was an option, but i'll go with Tull, their discography has such great replay value.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 04:52
Still waiting for the Led Zep votes to roll in ... I know they have a lot of fans but Tull are off to a great start.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 04:55
Tull, easily 😁 f**k my chode fingers on this ipod - lettering the size of sugar grains.....
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:07
Hercules wrote:
They're chalk and cheese.Tull were a great blues/folk/hard rock prog band, and Zeppelin were a great hard rock band with some prog tendencies.
Some days I would love to listen to Aqualung or Heavy Horses, but on other days my choice would be Led Zep 3 or Physical Graffiti.
Impossible to make a rational choice.
| if there's one thing I like its a chalk and cheese poll normally it makes for excellent discussion and keeps it from being boring, I knew when I created this poll both these bands are worlds apart.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:29
Led Zeppelin of course.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:39
Enchant X wrote:
Hercules wrote:
They're chalk and cheese.Tull were a great blues/folk/hard rock prog band, and Zeppelin were a great hard rock band with some prog tendencies.
Some days I would love to listen to Aqualung or Heavy Horses, but on other days my choice would be Led Zep 3 or Physical Graffiti.
Impossible to make a rational choice.
| if there's one thing I like its a chalk and cheese poll normally it makes for excellent discussion and keeps it from being boring, I knew when I created this poll both these bands are worlds apart.  |
True. But when I was lecturing, I used chalk to write notes on the board (well, for a long time). Cheese would not work.
But when I went to the canteen for lunch, I sure as hell didn't want a chalk sandwich!
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 05:46
Hercules wrote:
Enchant X wrote:
Hercules wrote:
They're chalk and cheese.Tull were a great blues/folk/hard rock prog band, and Zeppelin were a great hard rock band with some prog tendencies.
Some days I would love to listen to Aqualung or Heavy Horses, but on other days my choice would be Led Zep 3 or Physical Graffiti.
Impossible to make a rational choice.
| if there's one thing I like its a chalk and cheese poll normally it makes for excellent discussion and keeps it from being boring, I knew when I created this poll both these bands are worlds apart.  |
True. But when I was lecturing, I used chalk to write notes on the board (well, for a long time). Cheese would not work.
But when I went to the canteen for lunch, I sure as hell didn't want a chalk sandwich!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:08
hard vote... the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output..
problem is... JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...
so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up....
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:14
Jethro Tull of course, though I love Led Zepellin a lot.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:22
so it's LZ 1969-1979 vs JT 1968-1979, right? still depends on the album, album polls are more interesting than just bands poll.
it's also a bit apples and oranges...
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:27
Absolutely Jethro, all my 20 fav progbands will win Zeppelin, also many non-prog bands, Zeppelin really isn´t my biggest faves although I like them quite a lot.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 06:52
Cristi wrote:
so it's LZ 1969-1979 vs JT 1968-1979, right?still depends on the album, album polls are more interesting than just bands poll.
it's also a bit apples and oranges...
| you raise a good point there Cristi my next poll will be an album poll .. I`m just interested in how this pans out I suspect Led Zep will gain some traction.
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Posted By: Spacegod87
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 07:29
I think the clear choice is JT.
I don't mind Zepp (used to love them a lot more) but i've always been a bigger JT fan. I did read once that Jimmy Page called them, "Jethro Dull" and it's like...*slow clap* Such an original insult mate lol.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 07:42
Led Zep's highs are off the scale high while Tull were a very consistent prog band that barely put a foot wrong but are pretty dull compared to Zep ( Page was correct!) . I feel like I should vote for Tull so Zep it is.
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Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 07:44
Led Zeppelin all the way.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 07:52
I feel both can pack a good punch, in term of eclectisisme and power. With an unshy bravery snd bravado. Both are kings in charisma and pathos. With strong deliverers of vocals whom bouth have gone the court-bard school of delivery. Both have solid drummers, guitarists of high class. JPJ delibers highly in both bass and keyboard department.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:13
Tull spends a lot more time on my turntable.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 08:15
Love both. But Tull overall.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 09:34
Never much of a fan of Tull--always expected more from them, but LedZep is just . . . jaw-dropping awesome--the best four-(and only four-)member "band" ever.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 10:32
BrufordFreak wrote:
Never much of a fan of Tull--always expected more from them, but LedZep is just . . . jaw-dropping awesome--the best four-(and only four-)member "band" ever. |
Except for Queen, Pink Floyd, Camel, Big Country.
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 11:45
Tully Tull Tull - easily.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:19
BrufordFreak wrote:
Never much of a fan of Tull--always expected more from them, but LedZep is just . . . jaw-dropping awesome--the best four-(and only four-)member "band" ever. |
wow.. Drew bringing it  .. well allow me to retort!!!!
no no no no man... no even close.
Moon, Entwistle, Townsend, Daltrey
Moon destroys Bonham OX slaps aside JPJ Page urinates on Pete Roger punches out Percy cold
add in songwriting in which they absolutely nuke Zep.. and that is a easy vote for best 4. and really the only one to stand against the fab 4 themselves.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:30
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:37
two of my fave bands since the beginning
can. not. vote.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 12:43
Jethro Tull
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:20
TULL! A far more interesting band, with a better lead guitarist (yes, I went there).
LZ is nearly as overrated as the most overrated band ever, The ****les.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:41
Love both, but Zeppelin crush most anything in their path.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 13:42
verslibre wrote:
TULL! A far more interesting band, with a better lead guitarist (yes, I went there).
LZ is nearly as overrated as the most overrated band ever, The ****les. |
The Buggles? 
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 14:22
Tough choice indeed............... The first 7 Zep lp's are very good....but so are 7 or 8 of the first 12 Tull lp's....Tull having a larger body of quality work even though they slipped later on. Hard call to make....but Stand Up and Benefit are two lp's that have always deeply resonated with me...so for those two I give the edge to Tull.....but it's a slight one.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 14:30
Sacro_Porgo wrote:
verslibre wrote:
TULL! A far more interesting band, with a better lead guitarist (yes, I went there).
LZ is nearly as overrated as the most overrated band ever, The ****les. |
The Buggles?  |
I wager they're rated right about where they should be. 
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 15:07
Zeps sound American to me. All the best bands were English and European
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Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 15:10
Led Zeppelin, easily. I especially love their acoustic/folk atmosphere, on the other hand I never got into JT folk. My favs, Rush, took obviously a lot of inspiration from Zeppelin. Without Zep influence there wouldn't be 70s Rush classics.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 15:22
Robert Plant is a better singer, while Ian Anderson is a better flute player. 
Quite different bands anyway. Voted for Zeps though.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 16:16
I like some Led Zep and I don't like some Tull... but if I make a top 5 list of albums from both of these bands, it'd be all Tull (no. 6 maybe Zep... maybe).
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 16:19
Not counting the Beatles(oops I said their name ;) )as a single digit youngster, Zepp were the first band I got into in a big way and in some ways paved the way for me getting into arena rock, hard rock and ultimately prog rock. However, after I got into prog I gradually "outgrew" LZ in favor of more complex and interesting(in my mind at the time)music. So these days I would say Tull but I still have an appreciation for LZ and in fact was playing a bit of 4 earlier today.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 18:15
I actually find it hard to make my mind on this one, they are both great... I guess I have to give the nod to Zepp, though. Still, I only wish, when they toured together, that they might have helped each other on a few songs... for example, I can think of Stairway to Heaven, if only Anderson had come in to play the flute for them in the intro (and then join in in the last hard rocking part of the song with his flute again). Or perhaps on Kashmir, have either the bass player or the keyboard player from Tull help out, so that they could play both instruments (or on some other song from Zepp that uses keyboards). Or Plant might have come out to help Anderson sing whenever a song required flute and singing at the same time.
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 18:39
There was a time I probably would have said Zep, but in subsequent decades that has turned over to Tull quite decidedly. I can't think the last time I listened to Zep on purpose. That said, they did have some great songs
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Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 23:32
I agree that JT barely fits in the Big 5 or Big 6 list of English prog. But for me it still beats Zep by a long shot
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Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: May 25 2020 at 23:35
micky wrote:
hard vote... the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output..
problem is... JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...
so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up.... |
Are you sure Zep really knew when to hang it up? What about that time when they invited Phil Collins to play with them 
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 04:41
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 04:58
iluvmarillion wrote:
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist. | I think you are right
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 05:00
iluvmarillion wrote:
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist. | I won’t shoot - he’s very sloppy, sloppier than Steve Howe, though what they play is pretty challenging stuff that nobody could replicate with the right nuances.....
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 06:02
iluvmarillion wrote:
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist. |
a little bit
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 06:39
Cristi wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist. |
a little bit |
There are better guitarists I'm sure, but it's not all down to how technical and precise they are. Like Zappa, he had a style and sound that was very distinctive and worked brilliantly with the music, eve if there were a few rough edges. The same could be said of Alex Lifeson - distinctive style/sound etc - who I believe IS far batter 'technically' than Page, but then Lifeson was in Rush who weren't in the same sales league as Zep..
I once heard it said that Eddie Van Halen was once asked what it's like being the best guitarist in the world, to which he allegedly replied something like "I don't know. You'd have to ask Alex Lifeson"
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 07:45
iluvmarillion wrote:
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist. |
May be true but he has come up with riffs and solos that most guitarists would give their right arm for.
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 08:10
judahbenkenobi wrote:
micky wrote:
hard vote... the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output..
problem is... JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...
so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up.... |
Are you sure Zep really knew when to hang it up? What about that time when they invited Phil Collins to play with them  |
If Bonham does not die then I don't think they hang it up at all. I'm not sure what 80s Led Zeppelin would have sounded like.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 08:20
Enchant X wrote:
I was in a chatroom recently and somebody said Led Zeppelin were the best band ever while others agreed, so I thought I'd put them up against a band barely in the big 5 top prog bands (not that I agree with that system either) and find out. I chose Jethro Tull because I believe King Crimson, PinK Floyd, Yes or Genesis would have won too easily especially on this progressive website
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Hi,
When it comes to the concert circuit, very few bands can you count in your fingers that stand up to Led Zeppelin in their first 3 years ... their shows and bootlegs were historic and I think it was something like in LA ... 3 shows ... sold out in 20 minutes to give you an idea ... JT was fine, but never had that kind or attention.
I like JT, some, but I get really tired of it by the end of the albums, with 2 exceptions. In general, within a "progressive" ideal, JT would be better, however, LZ did not get the chance to continue and give us something ... Bonzo departing us, left a void in the group mechanics ... that was really difficult to duplicate and maintain.
All in all, for this poll's purposes, LZ should be the choice but in this place some folks think that JT is one of the gods, and it ain't. AND, JT's appreciation, specially in a "progressive" mold did not start until much later ... even though they had the material for it ... but at the time, no one thought of it as much ... my girlfriend, btw, would rather see LZ because it was sexy, and JT was boring!
JT is a "boys" band for my taste!
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Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 10:42
I have voted for LZ for the simple reason that they are the best live act I have seen. However I have a liking for heavier hard rock bands. However if bonham had not died I think LZ in the 80s would have had a very different sound with keyboards featuring much more in their music. See carouselambra from the in through the out door album for how they were heading.
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 11:17
iluvmarillion wrote:
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist. | I agree. He was quite good in the sixties, but when started use heroine become really messy (you can hear that in "The Song Remains the Same"-live).
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 11:45
Can't decide so I'm going with Zull.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 13:11
Jethro Tull
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 13:35
Jeffro wrote:
judahbenkenobi wrote:
micky wrote:
hard vote... the first four Tull albums absolutely rule.. and bitch slap the collective Zep output..
problem is... JT became JD (aka Ian's Ego and his collection of cronies) and didn't stop after Aqualung...
so giving it to Zep.. for having the good sense to know when to hang it up.... |
Are you sure Zep really knew when to hang it up? What about that time when they invited Phil Collins to play with them  |
If Bonham does not die then I don't think they hang it up at all. I'm not sure what 80s Led Zeppelin would have sounded like. |
Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 13:55
The Dark Elf wrote:
Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment. | Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained. It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 15:33
Atavachron wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment. | Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained. It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.
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Yeah...no. Sorry David, can't stand Up the Down Escalator. The worst Zeppelin album by about 10 light years. And having read other poster's comments through the years, there's a large majority who think Led Zep fell off a cliff on that one.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 15:43
Oh there's a huge majority who think that-- they also hate Presence. Not a fanbase I put much stock in (these are the same people who think ZoSo is their best).
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 16:13
Atavachron wrote:
Oh there's a huge majority who think that-- they also hate Presence. Not a fanbase I put much stock in (these are the same people who think ZoSo is their best).
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Well, my favorites are Physical Graffiti and ZoSo, both were a huge deal in my early teens. And I do like the acoustic aspects of III. The rest I really don't listen to much anymore.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 16:26
dr prog wrote:
Zeps sound American to me. All the best bands were English and European  |
all the way from ... Wolverhampton.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 16:30
dr prog wrote:
Zeps sound American to me. All the best bands were English and European  |
They sound American because, like all British rock bands born of the '60s, they learned everything they knew from Elvis, Howlin' Wolf, Little Richard, Otis Redding, and Jimi Hendrix.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 16:30
Atavachron wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Bonham heard the finished product of In Through the Out Door and died of embarrassment. | Not only is ITtOD one of their best albums, it has the best studio drum sound Bonham & Page ever attained. It is a beautiful, elegant record of a band unwilling to repeat themselves.
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I like it as well but then I like ELP so my opinion is probably invalid 
(and the connection is that Emerson bought the Yamaha GX1 that JPJ used on that album after his own was destroyed in a freak accident)
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 16:32
richardh wrote:
(the connection is that Emerson bought the Yamaha GX1 that JPJ used on that album after his own was destroyed in a freak accident) | Didn't know that, good little nugget of rock history.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 18:50
Enchant X wrote:
iluvmarillion wrote:
People are going to shoot me, but I reckon Jimmy Page is overrated as a guitarist. | I think you are right  | Oy-- it's called character, soul, austerity. Perfect playing is incredibly dull. Both Page & Plant understood that and worked hard to preserve the ragged, imperfect humanity that was so crucial to their music. Maybe someday you'll appreciate that.
Page overrated? Of course he was, along with Bonham, Plant and Jones-- not to mention Tony Iommi, Jeff Beck, Hendrix, Johnny Winter . . .
For crying out loud.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 26 2020 at 22:06
like them about the same--but Zep is a more important band
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 27 2020 at 00:47
Posted By: Jim Oddball
Date Posted: May 27 2020 at 03:35
I remember sl*g.ing off Tull to a flatmate whilst at Uni, and he threw a tin of baked beans at me. Could've done serious damage (he was a massive fan). I can see why he was such a devotee now that I'm older and less tribal about these things, but Led Zep have been with me for life, one of the few bands that I've listened to on and off for 40+ years. I now realise that Physical Graffiti and LZ3 are better albums than 4, but they are still a great band. And still a class above Tull.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: May 27 2020 at 08:29
Love them both but I think I'll go for LZ.
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Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: June 01 2020 at 06:04
Well I've been a Tull fan for 40 years they were one of the first prog bands I ever got right into so I voted for Tull ... no disrespect to Led Zeppelin who are a legendary band.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 01 2020 at 09:59
moshkito wrote:
Enchant X wrote:
I was in a chatroom recently and somebody said Led Zeppelin were the best band ever while others agreed, so I thought I'd put them up against a band barely in the big 5 top prog bands (not that I agree with that system either) and find out. I chose Jethro Tull because I believe King Crimson, PinK Floyd, Yes or Genesis would have won too easily especially on this progressive website
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Hi,
When it comes to the concert circuit, very few bands can you count in your fingers that stand up to Led Zeppelin in their first 3 years ... their shows and bootlegs were historic and I think it was something like in LA ... 3 shows ... sold out in 20 minutes to give you an idea ... JT was fine, but never had that kind or attention.
I like JT, some, but I get really tired of it by the end of the albums, with 2 exceptions. In general, within a "progressive" ideal, JT would be better, however, LZ did not get the chance to continue and give us something ... Bonzo departing us, left a void in the group mechanics ... that was really difficult to duplicate and maintain.
All in all, for this poll's purposes, LZ should be the choice but in this place some folks think that JT is one of the gods, and it ain't. AND, JT's appreciation, specially in a "progressive" mold did not start until much later ... even though they had the material for it ... but at the time, no one thought of it as much ... my girlfriend, btw, would rather see LZ because it was sexy, and JT was boring!
JT is a "boys" band for my taste! |
I was going with the gut when I voted for Zepp, but I guess you have just described why I didn't vote for Tull... getting tired of the album by the end of it. However, the way I listen to Tull (and most bands), even though you may disagree because of how you like to respect what the bands where trying to do, is listening to a list of my very favourite songs, and in the case of Tull, they are mostly live songs, which to me sound much more energetic and powerful than the studio originals.
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Posted By: thief
Date Posted: June 01 2020 at 12:43
As a kid: Jethro is funny, Zeppelin = lots of love songs, bleh!
As a 13-year old: Led Zeppelin is the best fricking thing under the sun, period
High school: Led Zeppelin still rules, but I need prog again
Graduate: Jethro Tull's catalogue is so deep it's mindblowing
Now: LZ for summer, JT for winter, other seasons are tossup.
Going to vote for Led Zeppelin as they fell behind too much for my taste.
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Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: June 01 2020 at 13:24
thief wrote:
As a kid: Jethro is funny, Zeppelin = lots of love songs, bleh!
As a 13-year old: Led Zeppelin is the best fricking thing under the sun, period
High school: Led Zeppelin still rules, but I need prog again
Graduate: Jethro Tull's catalogue is so deep it's mindblowing
Now: LZ for summer, JT for winter, other seasons are tossup.
Going to vote for Led Zeppelin as they fell behind too much for my taste. |
Wow. That's so accurate, lol.
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Posted By: Lieutenant_Lan
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 09:08
Both are amazing. but if I could only listen to one the rest of my life it would be Led Zeppelin.
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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 09:20
I like Led Zep but compared to Tull, they lack variety, so it's Jethro Tull this time.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 19 2023 at 03:55
gentlest bump!
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: August 19 2023 at 04:33
I love them both, but voted for Jethro Tull
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 19 2023 at 04:43
Led Zeppelin
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: Stressed Cheese
Date Posted: August 19 2023 at 05:08
Alright then. Tull is pretty boring to me, Led Zep is pretty great. So, LZ no contest.
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: August 19 2023 at 23:00
Led Zeppelin.
The best Jethro Tull albums are truly the best, but they have also some really bad ones IMO. Led Zeppelin has better overall quality.
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 20 2023 at 04:39
Tull are number 1.
 Best collection. Great remixes. Tonnes of excellent bonus tracks
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 20 2023 at 05:08
David_D wrote:
Led Zeppelin |
That was actually a quite interesting personal discovery.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 16:11
Let's look at the topic this way:
Is Ian Anderson anywhere near to being the vocalist Robert Plant is?
Is anyone of Tull's guitarists anywhere close to being as influential/memorable as Jimmy Page?
Is anyone of Tull's bassists anywhere near as good as John Paul Jones?
How many drummers in the history of humanity can be compared to JOHN HENRY BONHAM????
Flute department: advantage, Tull.
Everything else: Led Zep!
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Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 16:59
dr prog wrote:
Tull are number 1.
 Best collection. Great remixes. Tonnes of excellent bonus tracks |
This guy knows the mighty Tull!
Those Albums are played in sequence every now and then
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Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 17:06
Steve Wyzard wrote:
Let's look at the topic this way:
Is Ian Anderson anywhere near to being the vocalist Robert Plant is?
Is anyone of Tull's guitarists anywhere close to being as influential/memorable as Jimmy Page?
Is anyone of Tull's bassists anywhere near as good as John Paul Jones?
How many drummers in the history of humanity can be compared to JOHN HENRY BONHAM????
Flute department: advantage, Tull.
Everything else: Led Zep! |
A's: Is Plant as unique as Anderson in the singing department? Martin Barre can rival Page any day of the week or least close to it. Cornick, Glascock? You are correct about Bonham - no argument there.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 19:30
^Lyrics?
------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time...
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Posted By: Moonshake
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 19:47
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 20:01
Frets N Worries wrote:
^Lyrics? |
Looks like it lol 
But in reality, it was in response to a member claiming Zeppelin were unanimously heads and shoulders above Tull in every musicians' respect. I disagree except the point about Bonham
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 20:28
^ Willie Dixon and Blind Willie Johnson were the best lyricists Zeppelin ever had. Might as well throw in Memphis Minnie and Robert Johnson as well.
That being said, lyrically Zeppelin doesn't hold a candle to Ian Anderson.
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Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 21:39
The Dark Elf wrote:
^ Willie Dxon and Blind Willie Johnson were the best lyricists Zeppelin ever had. Might as well throw in Memphis Minnie and Robert Johnson as well.
That being said, lyrically Zeppelin doesn't hold a candle to Ian Anderson. |
Sad but true 
When you have a band of 4 songwriters and nothing they ever did came remotely close to Ian Anderson's lyrics says a lot 
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Posted By: Hugh Manatee
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 21:45
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
^ Willie Dxon and Blind Willie Johnson were the best lyricists Zeppelin ever had. Might as well throw in Memphis Minnie and Robert Johnson as well.
That being said, lyrically Zeppelin doesn't hold a candle to Ian Anderson. |
Sad but true 
When you have a band of 4 songwriters and nothing they ever did came remotely close to Ian Anderson's lyrics says a lot 
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...and then there's "Stairway to Heaven", which strangely enough (although being lyrically great) Plant refuses to perform live anymore.
What's that all about?
------------- I should have been a pair of ragged claws Scuttling across the floors of uncertain seas
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 23:30
While I don't think Barre is earth-shattering by any stretch, I think Page is not quite as revelatory as many music-listeners contend. Still highly respectable and influential. Jones and Bonham are what make the band for me.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 21 2023 at 23:49
"With Zeppelin's music and my lyrics, we could really have something." -- Ian Anderson to an unamused Robert Plant, circa 1970
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 02:38
Even Bonham admitted Barlow was England’s best ever drummer
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 03:01
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Tull are number 1.
 Best collection. Great remixes. Tonnes of excellent bonus tracks |
This guy knows the mighty Tull!
Those Albums are played in sequence every now and then |
I’ve ordered the Broadsword set. There’s 4 studio albums on it lol. Hopefully it sounds good
------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 03:25
JT narrowly over LZ. Looks like another generation of cauliflower is smiling at salmon.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 04:30
From the end of the 1960's up to the end of the 1970's they both created plenty of fantastic music. But Led Zeppelin's weakest albums are much stronger than Tull at their worst - in the era that counts. And as Zeppelin last release came out before the eighties had started, we don't have four additional decades of mediocrity from them. And that's a big plus.
So LZ it it.
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Posted By: Stressed Cheese
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 04:52
Plant's voice can be quite rough at times, but he still clears Anderson easily. Anderson can be quite annoying honestly. The instrumental talents of LZ impresses me more as well, but then again, I don't like Tull enough to listen to them a lot.
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Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 06:45
Hugh Manatee wrote:
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
^ Willie Dxon and Blind Willie Johnson were the best lyricists Zeppelin ever had. Might as well throw in Memphis Minnie and Robert Johnson as well.
That being said, lyrically Zeppelin doesn't hold a candle to Ian Anderson. |
Sad but true 
When you have a band of 4 songwriters and nothing they ever did came remotely close to Ian Anderson's lyrics says a lot 
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...and then there's "Stairway to Heaven", which strangely enough (although being lyrically great) Plant refuses to perform live anymore.
What's that all about?
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haha I forgot about that song  (not intentionally btw). It does have great lyrics indeed.
Maybe Plant knows he can't sing in range anymore, which would bring the song a disservice.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 22 2023 at 06:47
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
Hugh Manatee wrote:
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
^ Willie Dxon and Blind Willie Johnson were the best lyricists Zeppelin ever had. Might as well throw in Memphis Minnie and Robert Johnson as well.
That being said, lyrically Zeppelin doesn't hold a candle to Ian Anderson. |
Sad but true 
When you have a band of 4 songwriters and nothing they ever did came remotely close to Ian Anderson's lyrics says a lot 
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...and then there's "Stairway to Heaven", which strangely enough (although being lyrically great) Plant refuses to perform live anymore.
What's that all about?
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haha I forgot about that song  (not intentionally btw). It does have great lyrics indeed.
Maybe Plant knows he can't sing in range anymore, which would bring the song a disservice.
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Or maybe he's tired of singing it, like it happens many times with bands and artists performing the same song over and over...
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