A rather eccentric film musicals poll
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Topic: A rather eccentric film musicals poll
Posted By: Logan
Subject: A rather eccentric film musicals poll
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 18:59
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Here are some musical films. Some are more of a musical than others. I considered adding The Wicker Man, and I love that film, but I don't consider it to be a musical despite the songs being important to it. Some are more eccentric than others -- I had to include Dancer in the Dark (love the film). Please mention any others that you think would fit. I thought about including Grease, but it lacks a certain otherness to me. added some others like Th Rutles: All You need is Cash even though it's a TV movie unlike the others. And The Wicker Man for the hell of it. Some of my later additions are not musicals in quite the same way as I was envisioning (mockumentaries about music rather than what I think of as musicals-- see The Rutles: All You need is Cash, Spinal Tap, A Mighty Wind)... Whatever, it's supposed to be eccentric. Feel free to vote with limited knowledge. American Astronaut, The (2001) Apple, The (1980) Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (1970) Bugsy Malone (1976) Cannibal! The Musical (1993) Can't Stop the Music (1980) Cry-Baby (1990) Dancer in the Dark (2000) First Nudie Musical, The (1976) Head (1968) Interstella 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem (2003) Labyrinth (1986) Ladies and Gentlemen, the Fabulous Stains (1982) Lisztomania (1975) Little Shop of Horrors (1986) Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983) Pennies From Heaven (1981) Phantom of the Paradise (1974) Repo! The Genetic Opera (2008) Rock & Rule (1983) Rocky Horror Picture Show, The (1975) Rock 'n' Roll High School (1979) Shock Treatment (1981) Srgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band (1978) Tommy (1975) Toomorrow (1970) * Wicker Man, The Wiz, The (1978) Xanadu (1980) A favourite musical moment of mine: ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 19:11
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With all the songs in it, could you consider "The Meaning of Life" a musical? ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 19:16
You know, I think you could, and I adore The Meaning of Life. I have no idea how many times I've seen it. I'm adding it. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
TCat wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 19:34
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If it's not a proper musical, I don't care, this is supposed to be an eccentric poll. A favourite of mine in this list is Phantom of the Paradise: And this is not a movie, but a favourite musical of mine: ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 19:37
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Let's do the time warp again. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 19:41
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Don't dream it, be it. EDIT: By the way, I'm not the kind who likes to make topics and then doesn't engage people in conversation or answer questions, but I have things to do and will be taking a break from the site. So no point asking "Where is such-and-such?" or "Why didn't you include so-and-so?"  I doubt that much discussion will happen in this topic anyway (they are a bit of a time-waster to prepare and I always have less time to waste than I end up wasting). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 21:09
Hi, I think I'll go check out THE RUTLES ... is it really that bad?
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 21:10
Hi, we just have to make sure we don't get the Harley smells during our dinner when Meatloaf comes through! Yeah!!!  ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 21:18
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I know I'm an idiot, cause I just said that I'm going to take a break from the site, so please don't ask me questions, but maybe you meant that for TCat? I love The Rutles, I probably bring up the Rutles more than anyone. Cheese and Onions is like the greatest song ever but I didn't include that mockumentary, nor Spinal Tap (which I love). Maybe then I shouldn't have included the Monkees Head. I'll edit those in but please then vote in the poll for The Rutles. I will also add A Mighty Wind. I wouldn't normally have considered such mockumentaries about fictitious bands for this musicals list, as that seems it's own kind of thing, nor things made for TV such as The Rutles, but as they say in retail, the customer knows best. I guess I could have included AD/BC: A Rock Opera then, it's only half an hour, but it was on TV and might be considered a short film Sometimes it seems like certain people often are more interested in talking about what people leave out than what they include (and in not voting for what they know). It would be nice to get more positive feedback while mentioning any others, and people can always make their own polls if they don't like the poll or approach given. It's part of the reason why this forum is not always enjoyable. Now this is my last post. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 04 2020 at 23:19
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I like Rocky Horror music, Ramones is of course great too, but as a huge Who-fan have to vote Tommy. BTW never listened that soundtrack album, but in the movie some of the music sounded really great (specially that band version of the ending of overture, that´s acoustic in the original Tommy). I think I have to listen that soundtrack album first in this morning (if it is in spoti or tube). I little bit wonder where you Logan had all the time and interest to listen all this? And this is not blaming you, more of admiring you.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 06:29
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South Park the movie also is a wonderful musical -------------  
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 08:37
While I said I wouldn't post for some time (I have a lot of work that needs doing -- I need to scramble), I should have mentioned that this is a very rare case where in my research to remember ones (I often put some time into research when doing such things), I ended up supplementing my list a fair amount --usually I like to do polls just based on my favourites. A lot of these weren't in my "weird film musicals" searches. I have seen 23 in the poll, which is still a lot. I don't sleep much at all, which frees up more time. In the case of Repo! The Genetic Opera, that is one I had tried to watch some years ago, but couldn't get through it.. As for South Park: Bigger, Longer Uncut, I might well have included that had I thought of it (I have seen it). It's early days still, but it's interesting that five people responded to this topic and that is two more than the total number of votes in this multiple-choice poll (and certainly two of those five did vote). Judging by one of Moshkito's comments, in response to the Dark Elf, he seemed to like one of my choices, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, yet Moshkito didn't vote for it (that's the first one I thought of, such a classic). Certain kinds of polls get far more votes than people who respond. I'll look back on my other film polls (done a lot as I used to live and breathe film, partially because of film studies) to see if that's been the pattern when I have the time. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 09:55
Thanks for adding The Meaning of Life. I voted once it was there. That was probably my vote missing, but I'm scrambling all over the site today. 
Dang! I didn't see A Mighty Wind the first time. That one is another favorite. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 10:21
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^ Oh, no worries at all. I love The Meaning of Life and it's my most watched film in the list. When I was a teen, I definitely ranked it amongst my ten favourite films (along with A Clockwork Orange, Brazil...) and it remains a favourite. And as for Moshkito, we share a lot of the same likes and he has been very supportive of my art house and sci-fi/fantasy film polls, so I don't mean to come off as ungrateful for his participation, and he commonly mentions ones not on my lists that I love. I'm glad to have so many at this site whose tastes overlap with mine in different areas. I'm stressed with my work (odd times which requires some different approaches), and not putting things well, or sometimes not thinking things through as well as I would like. I'd be less stressed if I stopped procrastinating, thus trying to distance myself from forum discussion. That said, this forum can be a good place to get the brain juices flowing, even if it is just out of my ears and onto the floor. I just need to be better at focusing on my work and better at time management (I get the work done on time, if not completed before "the eleventh hour", and done satisfactorily, but it means sleepless nights far too often). Spending time coming up with such lists is not the best use of my time, but I do enjoy the discussion that such things result in, and I do like re-visiting, remembering, or re-thinking about old favourites. I like to hear about others not in my lists, often I know and love them, and sometimes, but not so often, I learn something new. It only bothers me when I feel people are being overly judgmental about, unfriendly, or readily dismissive of my choices or approach, or are not paying attention to what's been said or even what's in the list, but I wouldn't say anyone has been in this topic. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 10:56
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BJ Wilson of Procol Harum plays the drums on Rocky Horror Picture Show -------------
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 11:02
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Yeah. Everyone can be judgemental. Unfortunately, it's human nature. People have opinions and like to force them on others. It used to bother me, hell, it still bothers me at times, but I try to tell myself that they are all human and thus are prone to errors, stupidity, or a combination of both. But they are also prone to enlightenment and friendliness too. When it all comes down to it, all responses are a combination of opinion and mood. As far as time management....I get that issue. Right now I have lots of time on my hands, so I use it here where I enjoy using that time and it keeps my mind off of hard times. Don't let others get you down, though. Sometimes the things they say, they won't remember in 10 minutes anyway. Other times, the words they write don't necessarily mean the way they might sound to the reader. I always enjoy your input, so just brush off those negative numbskulls. If they want to convey their own opinion, let them start their own thread if they are smart enough to do so. Don't let it bug you and push you away. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 11:08
The Meaning Of Life also has a PC game, released through the late 90s. It is one of my favourite PC games. Playing the game is like solving puzzles and watching movie scenes. (Most of the images and animations are taken from the movie itself.) I really advise all Monty Python fans to play that game. A timeless classic. For the topic, I can say that I'm not a fan of musicals. I get easily bored while watching most musicals. There is a 80s musical that I really loved, but cannot remember its name now. I definitely watched numerous musicals, yet as I said I'm not a fan of the genre. |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 11:17
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I know next to nothing about films.. I have a bit of a limited attention span when it comes to watching things (my wife just falls asleep!)  but you have made me very happy by posting that little clip of Erazerhead which is just one of my all time favourite films!!xxWould Blazing Saddles or any other of the Mel Brooks films come under this heading?? Please remember youre dealing with a complete numbskull when it comes to movies of any sort ------------- |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 11:20
Oh and I loved the Rutles too.. I only found out a few days ago that Neil Innes had died just after Christmas!! I was very shocked and saddened by that .. Rutland weekend television was a big big part of my growing up !------------- |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 11:44
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^^ Funny you mention Mel Brooks, or maybe not funny, as I made this poll I was wondering about what I could try to try to pub in by him, but I didn't have the time to put as much thought into it as I would have liked. ^ as for Neil Innes, I had heard, it's sad. ^^^ I'm not familiar with the PC game. Interesting. I wouldn't call myself a fan of the musical genre either, but some can be very fun. I tend to appreciate the absurd, the quirky, the strange, often that which is surreal, sometimes the grotesque, and the comical in many "artistic" forms. I could enjoy many dark comedy musicals. Despite Covid_19, the last film I watched was a horror flim (revisited an old fave of mine, The Omen). The Omen could make for a great musical. :)
A truly enlightening post, most sincerely, thank you. And this has helped to shift my perspective -- my perspectives can change quite dramatically depending on my mood. Everyone has bad days and off days, I think I have more than most, and one shouldn't be defined by those moments. If it's the norm, well, that's another matter. While there is some continuity -- some would say there isn't and that's an illusion, and there is discrete time and continuous time... -- we are all rather different people from moment to moment. We're not identical to our past or future selves. We can't help but change even if that's not enough change for what we or others would like. It is my off moments that bug me and push me away the most, but I would hope to acknowledge/accept those, learn from them, and move on from those. I've always been a procrastinator, some things never change. :) While I already mostly worked from home, with the situation significant adaptation is required. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 12:38
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The Qatsi trilogy, especially Koyaanisqatsi: Life Out of Balance ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 12:44
Hi, I don't think I voted at all yet. ... deleted ... I think it was not understood ... I wanted to add more to it, and not subtract from the poll!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 12:52
I like those but that is not at all what I mean by "a musical". Here is the OED definition for a musical: "A play or film in which singing and dancing play an essential part. Musicals developed from light opera in the early 20th century. ‘a hit West End musical, Miss Saigon’" Not everything in my list would I consider to be a true musical. I guess I should have defined it in my opening post. I thought people would understand and infer from various of my choices. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:14
It's true that movies like Koyaanisqatsi are nothing like (for example) The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and that when one hears the term "musical", movies like Koyaanisqatsi are not what one thinks of. But if one considers the term "musical" at face value, meaning that music is a dominant feature, then movies like Koyaanisqatsi would have to qualify. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:16
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Hi, ... Miss Saigon ... was this the stuff that Murray Head did? Some of the films that for some reason did not interest me ... Tommy I made the point to not see because I liked the original album and was not interested in a version that was almost making fun of the whole thing ... I have no idea if it is good or bad, but seeing some of the "stars" that sang in it, made me lose interest quickly! HAIR ... at the one and only theater that used to be next to the Cinerama Dome ... was impressive, and seeing (later) Three Dog Night cop several songs, as did the 5th Dimension, was kinda sad ... it took away from something that is actually well written and left folks thinking that it was just another Hollywood nudie. AND, remember that one great singer was one of the folks in the London Revival of HAIR ... her name? ... look it up and think Curved Air! Beyond the Valley of the Dolls Bugsy Malone First Nudie Musical (they never heard of Hair or some other plays and stuff done in NY!) Pennies from Heaven Rock'n'Roll High School Tommy Xanadu The Wiz ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:23
I don't like or know all of the films in this poll,and in one case, which I got from another list, I don't think it fits my conception of a musical. I've seen plenty of those, but many/most are not what I meant by a musical. I added The Rutles for you even though I don't really feel it fit (and then I added The Wicker Man for myself even though I don't think it really fits despite having song and dance and some others). Again, I should have defined as a particular genre. The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, that I would have included had I thought of it at the time. I love that film and have mentioned it in the forum before myself. Films about music, such as Amadeus, are a different beast, as are ones likes The Music Teacher. if it was about music in that way, I'd include Diva and many others. Un Coeur en Hiver is a beautiful film but would have been more likely to be on my art house poll than a poll about musicals. This isn't about being musical, or having music as subject matter, it's about being a musical (again, I did stretch from that, especially with later additions, and some I wouldn't have included in retrospect). I would like it if you would make some thematic polls of your own, and it will be interesting to see how others will play along with it, instead of wanting to make it something that it is not. I feel like there's this kind of contrarian attitude, sometimes from me, that tends to pervade the forum instead of people trying to figure what the OP is getting at and working in that framework. I don't mind digressions, and enjoy friendly debate when I'm not busy (provided I feel that person is really listening to me and I'm really listening to them, and we're not talking at cross-purposes -- more of a dialectic). I would like to start making polls where the focus is on what I include, not what people wish I included, but mention any others that fit with what is listed as well as commenting on specific choices. The poll question just wanted you to vote for something, or things you like. It is really simple, and I said you don't have to know much to vote. You could have voted for The Rocky Horror Picture Show, which has been in the poll from the beginning (the first one I thought of, in fact). You could have voted for The Rutles: We're Only in it for the Cash. I quickly added that for you despite not thinking it quite fits both because its a mockumentary about music and because it was made for TV (which wasn't my focus), but then Head is there, so it fit well enough. And then I added Spinal Tap and some others of that ilk, even though it doesn't fit the conception. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:26
The thing is figuring out what the list represents, and trying to work within that framework. It takes inference, and maybe a little empathy. That said, I'm fine with asides provided people try to say something about the actual choices. Otherwise it's just a digression. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:29
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BTW, I mentioned the Qatsi trilogy not as a complaint for its non-inclusion, but as something from left-field worthy of consideration. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:39
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That's fine, but at least try to explain why if you go off list, and try to comment on any of the choices if you can. If you can't then say so. It just seems like pretty basic etiquette to me, to be honest (I know Australians often are blunter, and less loquacious. I used to live in Cairns and hold Australian citizenship). I'd already written in the thread, "Sometimes it seems like certain people often are more interested in talking about what people leave out than what they include (and in not voting for what they know). It would be nice to get more positive feedback while mentioning any others, and people can always make their own polls if they don't like the poll or approach given. It's part of the reason why this forum is not always enjoyable." When all you write is "The Qatsi trilogy, especially Koyaanisqatsi: Life Out of Balance", that actually doesn't really give a lot of information on how you think it relates to the choices in the list or even why you couldn't comment on the choices, and why you decided to mention that. More context would have been helpful. I don't appreciate the kind of "None of those, this" kind of comments and you didn't give me much to interpret your intentions, other than perhaps, "I don't care about your choices enough to talk about any of them, or I don't know them, so this, even if it's something totally different." ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:45
For polls containing only few choices, that's true. But if a poll uses up all the available choices, then that's an invitation for other choices to be included as posts, provided it's relevant to the discussion. And the Qatsi trilogy is relevant to the discussion about musicals for the reason I wrote. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 13:52
I did invite people to mention others very specifically in my opening post by saying "Please mention any others that you think would fit." And I said "Feel free to vote with limited knowledge". Then, I would hope that people would tell me how they believe it fits (I had meant with the poll choices), and why none in the poll are being mentioned. I very often say, feel free to mention any others, but please try to say something about my choices too. I wish I had in my OP this time, but frankly, very often people don't even bother to read it, don't bother to read through a thread before asking a question which was already answered, or just ignore it altogether. I feel like there is little effort being put into dialectic, and actually having fruitful conversations at this site commonly,and that it is putting me off. Or people just throwing out their opinions without thinking about how it relates to, or reflects on, others. I know you meant no harm, and I don't really mind. It's just a general frustration. Sometimes I feel we're not really communicating or connecting at well as a community, and it's just everyone, including myself, pissing in the wind. probably I should try to put more effort into writing thoughtful, nuanced, and hopefully insightful posts in other people's topics (if I can). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 14:52
It's "musicals", not "musical", and that makes a difference in my inference. Yeah, that's not what I meant. I should have made that really clear in my OP so we're not talking apples and oranges (or talking at tangerines, erm, tangents), more PCs and Apples. Many words have more than one sense, and one has to infer from the context. I shouldn't have included Interstella 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem (2003), because that is more like a long Daft Punk music video than a musical to me (I only started watching that after I made the poll). Several others in the list I don't consider to be musicals in the sense (think Broadway musicals and the like) that I meant. If really open, so much could go, including animated films like La Plančte sauvage. Although I did specify "a musical" in my OP, and I think that commonly refers to how the OED defines it. Instead of "film musicals," I would have said "musical films" to refer to a much broader list. But maybe this is not the best place to discuss semantics, although I don't mind if others want to argue such stuff until the cows come home. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 15:05
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probably I should try to put more effort into writing thoughtful, nuanced, and hopefully insightful posts in other people's topics (if I can).[/QUOTE] I read a lot of your posts and I can ensure you that 'thoughtful, nuanced and insightful' writing is what I enjoy most from reading them  x------------- |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 15:23
I appreciate that, and I really like reading what you have to say. It's given me a lot of food for thought, and made me reflect on what I think I know, what I believe, what matters to me and ultimately what's important in life. You have a good aura about you, if you know what I mean. I like to think very holistically, I strongly believe everything is fundamentally connected, and I like to look for connections, but sometimes I do have a myopic, narrow perspective, a place of alienation, and people like you help to broaden my horizons. In the words of VdGG, "All things are apart; all things are a part". But I'm still waiting for my saviour, storms tear me limb from limb, my fingers feel like seaweed, I'm so far out I'm too far in. ;) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 15:45
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By the way, maybe somebody would like to do a "musical films" rather than a "film musicals" poll. I'd like to nominate two animated films, La Planete Sauvage (Fantastic Planet) and Heavy Metal, and maybe one would add The Red Violin,The Pianist, perhaps Velvet Goldmine, and say even Three Colours: Blue if open to it, or films that feature a musician such as Truly, Madly, Deeply. Or if really open, any film with a soundtrack. Might be good to add an OTHER option for "any other film which features music". ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 18:19
Hi, I've thought about it, but my ability does not lie in the area that you have done, for example. I'm more of a student of film/arts/music/theater than I am anything else, and a lot of times comparing one to another is like someone putting together a poll of favorite paintings, and they have to be ... 200 years old ... (I got my History of Art by Jansen right here next to me! Still one of my favorite books!!!!!) ... and doing one on films is kinda strange ... maybe which Ken Russell film is best (hint -- Dante Gabriel Rossetti probably! Or The Devils) ... but I'm more likely to create an odd ball thing ... which Cahier of Cinema director you like best ... Truffaut, Godard or Rivette ... or which Fellini turns you on! ... or which Bergman is best (most folks have only seen one of them) ... and to me, it distorts the idea of the poll and its fun ... FOR ME. Lastly, I write from a rather comparative side of things, meaning that social/political/philosophical/religious kind of place/time, tends to influence the arts and move them forward ... they become the flag for those moments ... thus a comparison of films as was your choice and idea, is not something that I can relate to very well ... I was not born into a TV country ... never had seen one until the NY airport! ... and the first thing I saw ... American football and next to it facing the other direction was Bugs Bunny ... a total and complete culture shock ... I was aware of soccer (radio was HUGE THEN!) and its fame the world over ... but was not ready for what I saw, and it caused a massive issue with learning ... it took me over 10 years to get better at it ... LEARNING THROUGH SUBTITLES ... and that meant no American films ... part of my not being so much into John ford, Alfred Hitchcock and such ... though I like some others, and it was late 60's when Peckinpah came out that I gathered steam on American directors (not the older ones ... like I knew and had seen 4 Orson Welles films in the first couple of years). Now you know why the music in CARTOONS is so big with me ... I did not know the language but the music ... TOLD YOU THE STORY in T&J and BB and DD and so many cartoons ... and I love its weirdness to this day ... just like my favorite soundtrax are the ones from Spike Milligan, that the BBC will never put on record, because they were the kids playing around with all the knobs and not being serious! In their precious and expansive studio to boot! FUDGE ME! It's hard for me, to actually put all of that into words ... no one will EVER understand the 2 cultural shocks and lack of language ... which movies helped me with ... and here's a funny one ... I knew Truffaut, Renoir, Godard, Fellini, Antonioni and Bergman ... before I even knew a word of English ... thus a lot of the Hollywood exploits are not, and have never been my favorite stuff. Makes you wonder why Bonanza and John Wayne never did anything for me! It has nothing to do with the films/tv being good or bad ... I just never grew up around them (... like I don't "get" Ralph Bashki (spelling) ... great cartoons though!) enough to appreciate them around all the kids in school along with me. And then I start waking up with Vietnam around and in the streets of Madison ... and falling immediately for the "movie like" music (for me!) like The Doors and many other bands, the intelligent aspect of some songs (White Bunny anyone?). It wasn't because they were a hit ... it meant something for me inside and how I understood things ... but to this day folks hate the JA song, because they would not discuss it or talk about it and tell you what it is about! A progressive idea and concept thrown aside by folks that do not understand it, or think the lyrics don't tell them! Sorry to disappoint ... and it was not a listing to side track yours ... it was a thought about how I saw things differently ... and the sad thing? I get "punished" for it ... that is just sad.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 19:10
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Added votes for two incredibly funny movies, A Mighty Wind and Spinal Tap. Two of the finest mockumentaries ever. Even funnier than The Rutles. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 20:23
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Rocky Horror & The Meaning Of Life Not listed I'd pick The Commitments. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2020 at 20:24
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^ The Commitments, I don't think I've seen that. ^^ Seeing Spinal Tap live back in the early 90s was my most memorable concert experience. I love A Mighty Wind and Spinal Tap, and related ones such as Best in Show and Waiting for Guffman. ^^^ By the way, Pedro, I'm sorry if you feel sad and punished. That was not my intention. In the selective bit you quoted from my longer post, I was explaining it as a general feeling of mine at the forum. I was telling you that sometimes that is how I feel at the forum with various members and at various times. And sometimes I don't feel really listened to. I'm sure many of us feel that way at times, and sometimes it's true, and that's okay. We all want to feel understood. I was talking to you more, rather than talking about you, about what sometimes brings me down at the forum, and I said, sometimes it's coming from me. I'm not blaming people, and I think I should just not care cause it's not really that important. It really doesn't matter much to me anymore. By the way, you might remember my ridiculously overstuffed drove of directors poll, but these are some of my favourites with some films attached (had aimed for three). Woody Allen - Sleeper, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex* (*But Were Afraid to Ask), Casino Royale Pedro Almodóvar - Talk to Her, All About My Mother, Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Robert Altman - The Player, Vincent & Theo, Nashville Lindsay Anderson - if..., O Lucky Man, This Sporting Life Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood, Punch-Drunk Love, Boogie Nights Wes Anderson - The Grand Budapest Hotel, The Royal Tenenbaums, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou Theo Angelopoulos - The Travelling Players, Eternity and a Day, Ulysses' Gaze Michelangelo Antonioni - L'Avventura, La Notte, The Passenger Denys Arcand - Jesus of Montreal, The Decline of the American Empire, The Barbarian Invasions Hal Ashby - Harold and Maude, Being There Ingmar Bergman - Through a Glass Darkly, Wild Strawberries, The Seventh Seal Bong Joon-ho - The Host, Memories of Murder, Snowpiercer John Boorman - Zardoz, Deliverance, Excalibur Robert Bresson - Diary of a Country Priest, Mouchette, The Trial of Joan of Arc Luis Buńuel - The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Belle de Jour, The Exterminating Angel Chen Kaige - Yellow Earth, Farewell My Concubine, Temptress Moon Jean Cocteau - Orpheus, Beauty and the Beast Joel & Ethan Coen - Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink, Fargo or The Big Lebowski) Francis Ford Coppola - Apocalypse Now, The Godfather, The Godfather: Part 2 David Cronenberg - Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Spider (love so much of his) Atom Egoyan - The Sweet Hereafter, Exotica, Felicia's Journey Sergei M. Eisenstein - Alexander Nevsky, Battleship Potemkin, Ivan the Terrible Rainer Werner Fassbinder - World on a Wire (TV miniseries), Fox and His Friends, Despair Federico Fellini - La Dolce Vita, 8˝, Fellini's Satyricon David Fincher - Se7en, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Fight Cub Terry Gilliam - Brazil, Time Bandits, Twelve Monkeys Jonathan Glazer - Under the Skin, Sexy Beast Jean-Luc Godard - Alphaville, Breathless, La Chinoise Michel Gondry - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Science of Sleep Peter Greenaway - Drowning by Numbers, The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover, 8 ˝ Women Michael Haneke - Funny Games (1997), Code Unknown, The Piano Teacher Robin Hardy - The Wicker Man (1973) Todd Haynes - Far From Heaven, Velvet Goldmine Werner Herzog - Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Fitzcarraldo, Where the Green Ants Dream Hirokazu Kore-eda - After Life, Air Doll, Nobody Knows Alfred Hitchcock - Psycho, The Birds, Vertigo Agnieszka Holland - Olivier, Olivier, Europa, Europa Hou Hsiao-hsien - Flowers of Shanghai, Taipei Story, A Time to Live, A Time to Die Shohei Imamura - Black Rain, Vengeance is Mine, The Insect Woman Juzo Itami - Tampopo, The Funeral, A Taxing Woman Jim Jarmusch - Mystery Train, Stranger than Paradise, Night on Earth Jean-Pierre Jeunet - Delicatessen, The City of Lost Children, Amélie Terry Jones - Monty Python and the Holy Grail (with Gilliam), Life of Brian, The Meaning of Life Spike Jonze - Her, Being John Malkovich, Adaptation Alejandro Jodorowsky - The Holy Mountain, El Topo Aki Kaurismaki - The Man Without a Past, Juha, Drifting Clouds Abbas Kiarostami - Taste of Cherry, The Wind Will Carry Us, Where is the Friend's Home? Krzysztof Kieślowski - Dekalog (tv miniseries); Three Colours Trilogy: Blue, White, Red; The Double Life of Veronique Takeshi Kitano - Fireworks, Kikujiro Stanley Kubrick - A Clockwork Orange, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Shining, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Akira Kurosawa - Dodes'ka-den, Rashomon, Ran Fritz Lang - M, Metropolis, Contempt Yorgos Lanthimos - Dogtooth, The Lobster, The Killing of a Sacred Deer Ray Lawrence - Bliss (not in the poll, but I love this film) Ang Lee - Eat Drink Man Woman; Lust, Caution; Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Mike Leigh - Naked, Secrets & Lies, Life is Sweet Jens Lien - The Bothersome Man, Sons of Norway Sergio Leone - The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, For a Few Dollars More, Once Upon a Time in the West Ken Loach - Riff-Raff, Raining Stones, Land and Freedom Bigas Luna - Jamón, Jamón; La teta y la luna; Golden Balls David Lynch - Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet, Eraserhead Terrence Malick - The Tree of Life, Days of Heaven, The Thin Red Line George Miller - Mad Max and Mad Max II (The Road Warrior) Hayao Miyazaki - Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle Gaspar Noé - Enter the Void, Irreversible Yasujirō Ozu - Tokyo Story, Tokyo Twilight, A Story of Floating Weeds Peter Weir - Gallipoli, Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Year of Living Dangerously, The Truman Show Park Chan-wook - Oldboy, Lady Vengeance, I'm a Byborg But That's OK Wolfgang Petersen - Das Boot, Consequence He Ping - Red Firecracker, Green Firecracker; Wheat Satyajit Ray- The World of Apu, Aparajito, Pather Panchali Jean Renoir - The Rules of the Game, The Grand Illusion, La Chienne Alan Resnais - Night and Fog, Hiroshia Mon Amour, Last Year at Marienbad Jacques Rivette - The Nun, Celine and Julie Go Boating, Paris Belongs to Us Nicolas Roeg - The Man Who Fell to Earth, Don't Look Now, Walkabout Éric Rohmer- Pauline at the Beach, Claire's Knee, My Night at Maud's Walter Salles - Central Station, The Motorcycle Diaries, Behind the Sun John Schlesinger - Sunday Bloody Sunday, Midnight Cowboy, Marathon Man Martin Scorsese - Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore Vittorio De Sica - Umberto D., Bicycle Thieves, Two Women Volker Schlöndorff - The Tin Drum, The Ogre, The Ninth Day Ridley Scott - Alien, The Duellists, Blade Runner Tony Scott - The Hunger Todd Solondz - Happiness, Welcome to the Dollhouse, Palindromes Oliver Stone - Natural Born Killers, Salvador, Platoon Quentin Tarantino - Kill Bill Volumes 1 & 2, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown Andrei Tarkovsky - Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris Béla Tarr - Damnation, The Prefab People Lars von Trier - The Element of Crime, Europa, Melancholia François Truffaut - Fahrenheit 451, The 400 Blows, Jules et Jim Tsui Hark - Butterfly Murders, Once Upon a Time in China, Zu: Warriors from the Magic Mountain Tom Tykwer - Run Lola Run, Winter Sleepers, Heaven Denis Villeneuve - Maelstrom, Sicario, Arrival (he also directed Blade Runner 2049) Luchino Visconti - The Damned, The Leopard, Ossessione Wim Wenders - Paris, Texas; Wings of Desire; Until the End of the World Michael Winterbottom - Code 46, Wonderland Robert Wise - The Andromeda Strain (really why I included him), The Haunting, Star Trek: The Motion Picture Edgar Wright - Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, The World's End Wong Kar-wai - In the Mood For Loves, 2046, Ashes of Time Zhang Yimou - Red Sorghum, Ju Dou, Raise the Red Lantern ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 06 2020 at 05:02
Hi, I value these postings and comments a lot ... they are some of the most valuable and important for me on this board, because it is a reality in the discussion of an ART ... not just another film or movie, or TV show. Or a song! Of your list, goodness ... I think I have reviews quite a percentage of those films! I usually skip most American films, because I do not think that we need another Hitchcock film review ... to bore everyone silly ... and besides ... things have changed so much with hand held cameras ... that some of those films don't even appear as good as they should for today's audiences!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 06 2020 at 14:02
Thanks, it's appreciated. And I am really glad that we have a few such as yourself that share a love of world cinema and movements such as La Nouvelle Vague. Another thing we have in common, though I expect you've looked and thought more about it, is that I'm very interested in the interstices of art and thinking about things holistically (how politics affects art, how the arts correlate, how different movements collide and reinforce each other, how ideology affects art, and art affects ideology etc. etc.) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: April 06 2020 at 16:55
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I love Bugsy, Pennies from Heaven, Dancer in the Dark, A Mighty Wind, and Spinal Tap, but had to go with The Meaning of Life. Also love Bulworth, Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, Play it Again, Sam, Waiting for Guffman, and Jabberwocky. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 06 2020 at 17:00
Ditto to all of those.  ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: April 09 2020 at 22:29
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A bit of love to Labyrinth.. : ) Saw it when I was kid enough that those bizarre little puppets gave me chills. I got it downloaded and have seen it recently. Now watching (and loving) the 'Dark Crystal' series that also appeared on your http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=100369&KW=dark+crystal&PN=1" rel="nofollow - Looking for dark sci-fi or fantasy TV suggestions thread. (I like to watch and finish series very slowly).I remember reading one of your posts about it the same day one of my younger brothers (to whom I had recently showed the original 'Dark Crystal' movie) mentioned me the new series. I remember having asked him astonished 'You sure it's with.. puppets??' unbelievable. The others I know are only Meaning of Life and Dancer in the Dark. Meaning of Life.. some 4 summers ago on vacations, we put it to our dads one night.. that was funny… they quietly reached the scene when the fat man explodes..  ..and couldn't stand no more. But they sure laughed by the way.. for the sheer ABSURDITY! 'Fishy fishy fishy fish..' RIP Terry Jones. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 09 2020 at 23:12
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Have to say about "Sgt" that my brother has that soundtrack album, I think I have listened it a bit a many years ago and thought it was just so horrible! Never seen that film, do you think I should (I just wonder would it be really suffer to me)? BTW why you Logan didn´t put here "Hair"-soundtrack from 1979? It´s not also the greatest piece of music (not totally bad also), but really would have fit here.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 10 2020 at 09:20
Hi, My thoughts are that HAIR is too far out and out there for folks at PA ...   And one of the possible reasons, is not Logan's fault ... but a whole bunch of their songs were taken by at least two other bands, and they made millions off it, which did not help save the Aquarius Theater ... when it was next to the Cinerama Dome (... what a great night and double bill that would be!!!! 2001 and Hair!!!!!) ... instead of its newer location, which is not as comfy and lively as the old one was ... maybe it was the dope smoke that made the atmosphere better ... I doubt it! BTW, the London version had ... Sonja Christina on it ... yeah ... ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 07:37
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I have seen Hair (as a youngster on TV), could sing various lyrics from various songs off of it, and Miloš Forman is a director that I've followed, but it's largely down to simple neglect. I had thought of it, but then forgot about adding it to the list, then later thought of it again but couldn't be bothered to edit it. That happens to me quite a lot, especially as I often get called away when typing these things out. That said, I referred to several lists to supplement my own, and to remember various ones as I'm not really big on musicals generally, of the weird/ eccentric and cult musical ilk and it didn't show up in those perhaps because of its significant mainstream success on film, on Broadway. A film like Rocky Horror became successful as a kind of cult classic, but Hair: An American Tribal Love-Rock Musical had been a popular musical and as said above, the songs became often covered (used in shampoo commercials too), so maybe the sheen of Hair, this musical about the counterculture, was seen to have too much of mainstream pedigree for some of those I looked at. I was surprised that none of those lists included The First Nudie Musical, which I had first come across reading a book about cult cinema as a kid. Another I had originally thought to add, but then forgot about was The Producers (also not on the lists I referred to), but I started off typing some out from my own head. Later I added some that I had not originally planned to include as I felt they did't quite fit my original conception of eccentric film musicals. Ah well, such polls will never be definitive and I should remember to always think of as merely accessories to discussion (I do aim to bring some of the weirder obscurities to attention). Of a not so little know one of the list, I am surprised that Phantom of the paradise has no votes. I did a little topic on this 17 or so years ago (how time flies) at another forum -- for the sci-fi TV show LEXX, which had it's own musical episode. As it turned out, one of the posters (a smaller community than this one, about 30 regular posters, we were a close-knit group, met quite a number of them in my fairly short time there as one lived in Vancouver and we became firm friends and there was a convention in my area where I met up with others, was a dancer in that film and was able to share the photo evidence. I think she was also an extra in Logan's Run (the film from which my user name here derives, there I was called FunkET). By the way, Captcha is killing this forum for me. I get hit with it again and again and again in every aspect of this site, and then can't post and have to try again. And when I'm on my phone it's really hard to see the images. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 08:08
Hi, Both of these made their fame in Hollywood, and this is something that always bothers New York ... and you will notice that the big "blockbusters" from NY rarely make it big in Hollywood/LA unless the star is bigger than the universe as has happened in the past with CAMELOT (Richard Harris), ABELARD AND HELOISE (Dianna Rigg and Keith Michell) and one I liked a lot, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore that had people cackling in the isles laughing! HAIR, originally was not called that and in the originals I saw at the Aquarius, it was simply "HAIR" and I do not remember the extra wording. I think it was added later, because many folks thought THREE DOG NIGHT and THE FIFTH DIMENSION had written a bunch of songs that were taken from the show. I might even consider that it was an attempt at getting a new audience into seeing the original show. THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW as far as I remember, was already 5 years later, and made its name in the ROXY in Hollywood ... with many of the well known cast for it, including MEATLOAF driving up through the audience to the stage on a Harley! My take on both of these was that they were "musicals" but I think, probably a jaded view!, that the material was better suited to their story than a lot of musical material that sometimes added something just to make a scene of moment ... I'm the worst at musicals, I tell you, but I never felt I was watching a musical when watching both of the plays above within their original design and concepts. All in all, I think that UNLIKE MOST MUSICALS that are not necessarily related to any time and place, with the exception of possibly WEST SIDE STORY, both of these above were a strong part of the whole scene, although I kinda think (NOW!!!) that HAIR, perhaps flouted the thing a bit much and made sure it appealed to the folks from out of town (specially small towns), that some nudity was here. And THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW was, in many ways, about a lot of the scene at the time in Hollywood, that had turned to the physical side of things a lot more ... and you could NOT walk down the Strip and feel uncomfortable with some of the things that you were seeing ... and you better not get caught laughing or your nose will likely get remodeled and no one will help you! Compared to today's music, that is so far and away from so much of the arts, it's really hard for me to not appreciate these things and what they helped bring out ... there are so few, almost NO bands in the past 20 years that are connected to the arts so well and strongly, and their "prog" and "progressive" this and that is a lot more talk than it is a reality! Sadly, this was the "end" of the 60's, and these two musicals are but a memory of the time and place and how weird and strange things got, something that the media used to help kill the idea of the "love generation" ... and how it made so much money for so many "muthers" that were a part of the rip-off establishment instead of helping the arts and the musicians that deserved it. PS: There is one moment in the extra stuff from the Woodstock film and it is one that is not only scary, but also a true rendition of what happened in the time and place in America ... and it is Janis Joplin going nuts asking for love and screaming, which got cut short and pretty much deleted ... and the scene went out in a horrible shriek of emotion ... that no one heard, and helped! Saddest thing I ever have heard and seen in any of the arts! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 09:58
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I know only a few of the films on the list. Labyrinth: I liked it as a kid. Today I find it rather silly and sometimes messy, but I guess it has become a guilty pleasure. It definitely has its charm. Musically it's clearly not David Bowie at his best, and actually I think he looks kind of ridiculous in that outfit. My favourite part is probably the bird that is the hat of an old man. Monty Python's Meaning of Life is one of their most black humorous efforts, but not entirely on the same level as The Holy Grail and Life of Brian. Still enjoy it though. The Rutles is a hilarious deconstruction of the Beatles myth. It's impact will surely last a lunchtime. Spinal Tap I absolutely love. I have watched it multiple times without getting tired of it. Tommy: Totally over-the-top and spectacular just for the sake of being spectacular. At times it's downright cringeworthy, and there are things that don't make sense and just annoy me. F.e. why does Jack Nicholson have to send these creepy looks at Ann Margaret during "Go to the Mirror"? What does it have to do with the storyline?. The film sadly misses the emotion of the original work, but I have to admit I quite enjoy it.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 14:32
Hi, I wish I could comment on this film, and I might have to see it again, but it never really stood out for me, and in those days I was not a MP fan at all ... all of the 70's were spent listening to The Goons, The Firesign Theater, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore and a couple of other good/great comedians, not buffoons trying to get your attention on the telly as so many folks from that poor excuse of comedy on the weekends!
The Rutles, for me, was nice, and I liked the music better than the movie itself. Spinal Tap, is fine, however, I really thought that it was not as funny as people think by playing up to the TV cues and shots to get more attention. It has its good moments, but it really needed a few more English folks to make the comedy even better ... but I doubt that they wanted to even consider things like The Bonzo Dog Band and other big time comedy folks in England whose specialty was music ... but SP took on rock music and made fun of the fame thing and such, which was fine, but in many ways, it felt like it was done specially for the MTV generation only, not for anyone else.
This is the one film by Ken Russell that I will not review or bother with. First of all, I think that Ken probably thought that a lot of these rock music things were over done anyway, and he had been a part of many folk music festivals (has more than one to his credit), and I had the feeling he didn't care if it was over the top or not. I think that he once said that they threw so much money at him for it, that he thought he might as well do something over the top! This is the one "rock opera" that needs to be done with proper film and a director that is not into what KR did with the film, but THE WHO was not going to complaint since it doubled the sales of the album over night, even though I am not sure that the film was that well liked by critics, but it was a fun film to sit through just like you would one of Gonzo's craparoni totally stoned out of your mind! AND getting paid for it, which I think was what all this was about! SIDEBAR ... the best version of PINBALL WIZARD is the one that was never used or considered ... go listen to Roger Ruskin Spear's 2nd album, for a heck of a far out version that even EJ would not sing or consider ... but it sure was a lot more fun to listen to! And to screen that would have made MTV look stupid!
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Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: June 19 2020 at 09:19
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I'm going to put in a mention for 'Shock Treatment' as one of the most disappointing films I ever saw. How did Richard O'Brien go from brilliant to bomb in one step? What about 'Still Crazy'? Not to be confused with the much earlier, but also musical 'Get Crazy'. ------------- Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 14 2020 at 15:27
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The Meaning Of Life ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 14 2020 at 16:13
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A Mighty Wind, some of the best mock-music ever written and a nice followup to Spinal Tap. Won a Grammy and almost an Oscar. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 14 2020 at 16:16
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other... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 14 2020 at 17:51
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Phantom of the Paradise. Great soundtrack. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |