Why is Hancock's "Crossings" CD so hard to find?
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Topic: Why is Hancock's "Crossings" CD so hard to find?
Posted By: zwordser
Subject: Why is Hancock's "Crossings" CD so hard to find?
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 10:02
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I collect a lot of my music from CD's at music stores--particularly any artist/band that is popular enough to be widely distributed (in the U. S. Primarily). I've picked up nearly all my Herbie Hancock CD's this way, since he nearly always has a spot in the Jazz section at these stores. Certain of his albums are common and frequently found: Head Hunters and Maiden Voyage, for example. I've even come across Sextant a few times (one of the so-called Mwandish albums). Yet, even having been to dozens of these stores over the years (used and new), I've never been able to find Crossings anywhere--his highest rated album on PA. I've also never seen Crossings on vinyl, though I don't search the vinyl section as much. Anybody know why that might be? Limited or no release on CD? Chance? Or some other reason. Thanks. ------------- Z |
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 10:44
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It’s right here: https://www.amazon.com/Crossings-HERBIE-HANCOCK/dp/B000056P03 I generally order online when I can’t find X album in stores. My copy of Crossings was found in a Danish music shop though  Edith: also it’s dirt cheap over Amazon! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 10:50
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But to answer your question: It’s that good  Folks who’ve bought it never get rid of it. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 10:51
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It's worth effort. Very worth it ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 10:56
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Sure, I'm well aware that almost anything is order-able online--that's how I get most of my newer music. I'd rather not if I can find the CD. That's part of the reason for the post: if it's simple chance that I haven't found it, I'll figure I can hold out until I run across it (as I have a pretty mobile lifestyle). If its that it hasn't been released on CD, or some other reason, maybe I'll just go ahead and either order the CD or download the album. ------------- Z |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 11:02
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Not that hard to find at all. https://www.discogs.com/Herbie-Hancock-Crossings/release/11113032" rel="nofollow - Here 8 offers, from EUR 7. ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 11:04
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^^I’m the same. I prefer a more hands-on approach and love to spend 6 hours in one store flipping through albums. Yet...when I’ve been to the same place a couple of times and gotten my hands on what I wanted....well then I find myself looking at online possibilities instead. Still...nothing beats a full day of music shopping - preferably with a sour girlfriend at one’s side - y’know just to get back at her for insisting on the weekend before, where she took you shopping for pants and a very specific pair of socks  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 11:19
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I just want to say that Crossings is a phenomenal album. I would not be without the full Mwandishi trilogy in my collection. And then check out related Mwandishi players stuff if you haven’t yet, as well as some albums with a musical relation. Aside from "Crossings", "Sextant", and "Mwandishi", albums with a musical relation to it include Eddie Hebderson’s “Realization", amazing album I think, and "Inside Out" (if you don't have Anthology, Vol. II), and "Sunburst"; Julian Priester's fantastic "Love, Love" and his "Polarization"; Bennie Maupin's "The Jewel in the Lotus" and "Slow Traffic to the Right"; as well as Buster Williams'"Pinnacle", though I find that more forgettable than the others I mentioned. Norman Connors' "Dance of Magic" and "Dark of Light"is also an album that I think should appeal to those who enjoy MWandishi style music. And definitely check out Lenny White’s Venusian Summer if you haven’t already. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 12:33
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Probably most people on PA like the 'trilogy' the best.....but I prefer the earlier more trad sounds of Inventions, Empyrean Isles, and especially Maiden Voyage (1965) and Speak Like a Child. To me they are the epitome of cool city jazz and late nights ,,say in New York or Chicago. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 12:49
It's been released on CD a number of times: http://www.discogs.com/Herbie-Hancock-Crossings/master/47740" rel="nofollow - http://www.discogs.com/Herbie-Hancock-Crossings/master/47740 I reckon if you keep hitting the stores you'll find one eventually. It's not a rarity by any means. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
zwordser wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 13:13
I do really appreciate the oness you listed in their own right. I have heard at least foutteen Hanock albums, from Inventions to Man Child, and perhaps the often most loved of those, which is Headhunters, is the one that least clicked with for me (and I do like funk). I should dig that one out again as it's been considerable years since I last listened to it. I feel like going out to the park, it won't be busy, and playing Death Wish right now, been cooped up far too long. |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 14:08
Ok, that's good to know. Thanks for the answer. Still, I wonder why so may copies of Head Hunters everywhere in stores, and no Mwandish/Crossings. Perhaps just popularity. Might be that I just need to go East sometime, as I'm primarily around the Western U.S. ------------- Z |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 22 2020 at 16:16
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They had a couple different editions at my local record store (yes, we have one still!). I got mine on Amazon. Fantastic recording! I love Sextant as well. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 23 2020 at 10:10
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Haven't had a single problem finding Crossing CDs, especiallu-y the ugly Atlantic remaster digipak (with the orange & black spine. I did once see recently the superb original gatefold sleeve vinyl, but very pricy (it was mint or near mint). I passed up, but changed my mind the next day and it was gone There is a superb small Atlantic Years boxset that includes Fat Albert, Mwan & Crossing in nthe form of brilliant cardboard sleeve (especially for Crossings), but saddly not sextant (on CBS) What I would be really looking for in the cardborad sleeve MiniLp of Sextant If I absolutely love the Mwandishi era, I'm definitely less into the Head Hunters era (though Man Child, I really like)
 (though I'm not aware of Norman Connors, but shal investigate aSAP |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 23 2020 at 12:05
------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: March 23 2020 at 12:07
------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 23 2020 at 12:21
Great, but where are you located? (i'm "Now" too, but aren't we all)--not in the West U.S. I'm thinking. I'm currently in AZ, and recently went to several music stores in Phoenix, thinking for sure I'd find much of what I wanted, including Crossings. No go with HH, but at least did get a couple great finds. In the West, the best stores for variety of CDs/vinyl, including Prog, are on the coast: Portland and San Fran--though I've forgotton the names; haven't gotten out that way for a while. The one in the Bay area is HUGE, and even has prog/experimental sections for CDs. .... Actually, I'll look it up.... I'ts Amoeba Music. Don't remember if I simply didn't find Crossings last I was there, or wasn't thinking about it--I picked up a lot! (3-4 years ago or so). They also have a location in Berkeley where I was able to grab 3 Hogarth-era Marillion CDs for relatively cheap.
------------- Z |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 23 2020 at 14:18
I'd go with the ones mentioned, so start with Dance of Magic (his debut) and then listen to Dark of Light (his second album). To use Mascodogama's apt terminology, it's good spiritual jazz. Some others off the top of my head that I can relate to these, but others might not find quite the same relation, include Sun-Ra's Languidity (for the cosmic jazz), Bob James' One and Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay (which many jazz-heads would know as its quite the classic). And Patrick Gleeson, as a Crossings alumnus, and his great contribution to Lenny White's Venusian Summer, for his electronic/classical crossover album Beyond the Sun should interest various people. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 23 2020 at 15:08
Some really tasty albums being mentioned in here  Greg used his jazzy Guru skills on me a couple of years back and I can vouch for all the recs he provided. If you’re into jazz with a psychedelic aura about it aka spiritual jazz...well you just hit the motherload! Add Pharoah Sander’s Karma and perhaps something from the new cats, fx Nat Birchall’s Sacred Dimension https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QzkKoNV0C7w , and you should be good to go - cool as a cucumber and stoically hip..like a levitating beatnik in short shorts  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 02:24
| I went to a vinyl market before to be locked in my room and CD was the Eldorado. Some CDs of the end of the eighties cost the same price than the original Lps. The Bowie's albums on RCA are around 150 USD each. Plenty of CD are disappearing. Try to buy today Tim Buckley's Starsailor current edition and you will see wwhat I mean. The 10CC albums are still avalaible at a fair price and sound fantastic compared the horrible remastered edition. Just a thought. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 03:58
Hi Pierre  Holy crap it’s been ages. I see you’re in lockdown mode as well. At least some of us don’t have any difficulty in passing the time when we’re around our music collections (books are brilliant too)  I’m still working something like a full day...every other week, because the school I work at only is “open” for a few select kids that don’t have anywhere else to stay. It’s weird..but then again I had a wonderful 9 hour workday yesterday, which is something I don’t say that often  We had everything to ourselves plus sunshine and warm weather. I spent most of the day dancing around to some Funkadelic with a laughing kid on my shoulder Regarding the whole cd situation? Depends entirely on what exactly one is hunting for. Some of the old school albums that somehow lost traction with the youngins over time presumably get more scarce as they don’t get re-released in the same way say Sticky Fingers does  I’ve been ordering from Danish and Swedish online shops lately and have been surprised of the type of selection they have to offer. In some instances I’ve come across albums I’d been searching for for ages. Case in point: Älgarnas Trädgård’s Delayed. Yup found that baby hiding out with a ridiculously cheap pricetag attached to it ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 05:09
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Hi. Funkadelic and children, what a strange and full of life mix !!! I write poems in my room, listening to Roxy, Can, Matmos and my neigbours making love, taking a shower, making love, taking a shower... Water music. Take care. Pierre. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 05:30
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Heureux de te revoir, Pierre Je crois que la poésie aquatique sonnerais bien avec quelques morceaux que je compose  Strangely, I haven't come across any Mwandishi or Head Hunters phase albums and I'd really like to add them to my collection. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 05:38
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Estou certo, Sam
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 05:42
Mmmhhh!!!... Frisco would be one
of your better bet from where you are, thpough it's not exactly next
door either. You may want to phone Amoeba to see if they got it, though,
instead of just heading out there with today's crisis. I'm confining in Brussels right now. This is where I usually do my record hunting, along with Ghent, A'dam and sometimes Köln.
Thanks, a bit of research has got me pointing to the early albums as well (little surprise really ) |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: March 27 2020 at 09:39
I found it on Amoeba's website, but I think it just means they can order it (new $17.00). Mmmm, maybe, but I usually try not to pay too much--otherwise there's no way I can afford to collect a lot of music. I could order it from another place cheaper, probably. I was in Koln (Cologne) two summers ago--came to Germany for the Night of the Prog festival, then spent 2-3 days there. Nice town. Never made it to Brussels, though as I continued East, and eventually did a bike tour from Berlin to Copenhagen and back. Really like to return to Europe for some more bike touring! CD collection was not quite a priority (limited space, backpacking) but I found Kraan at a small music shop for 5 Euro. ------------- Z |