Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
Forum Description: Make or seek recommendations and discuss specific prog albums
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122242 Printed Date: February 18 2025 at 16:33 Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Modern/New Prog AlbumsPosted By: Restinmacaroni
Subject: Modern/New Prog Albums
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 11:11
New member looking for new progressive albums. And I vehemently mean progressive. Repackaging old sounds and giving them a contemporary slant does not work for me. I want something innovative, something out-of-control that I can't remain careless to, notes that act as characters with every intent and purpose behind them, whole albums that move the genre forward in a new way--something that progresses. An overly emotive and "darker" Foxtrot (looking at you IQ's Dark Matter) or a reiteration of Close To The Edge (From Silence To Somewhere) does not do that in any mileage. Those sounds were cutting-edge for their time, but now in my opinion. Any sub-genre of progressive music is fine as long as you think it fits this parameter.
Replies: Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 11:14
*not now.
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 11:22
My favourite 21st century album is "Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second", which can be downloaded from http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html for free.
------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 11:23
Well no not any subgenre will do. If those are your parameters then you will want to stay away from neo prog and any modern symphonic prog and probably most crossover prog(imo). You're most likely going to find what you are looking for in eclectic prog and rio/avant prog.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 11:44
That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the
modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and
"Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.
Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 11:55
Polygondwanaland by King Gizzard and A drop of light by All Traps On Earth were both pretty mind blowing to me
------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 12:08
Restinmacaroni wrote:
That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the
modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and
"Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.
Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
For symph maybe Birds and Building, Anglagard and All Traps on Earth(as was mentioned). Those do have some echoes of the past apparently but maybe not enough to drive you away not sure. Out of those I'm really only famililar with Anglagard and while there is some hints of the past they have their own sound and are doing their own thing. I guess it really boils down to how picky you are going to be. A band can be original and still have a sound that has influences from the past but I guess it depends on how they present those influences. If they are too easily identifiable then that could be a deal breaker for some(and frankly that sounds like it would be for you). So sample them on youtube first and see what you think.
The thing with post rock and math rock is that a lot of it seems to just sound the same after a while. Imo, it's hard to find truly original stuff in that area unless you go back aways so maybe start with the earlier ones. I would say maybe Godspeed You Black Emperor is a good one but I'm not really an expert so others will have to advise you more on that.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 12:11
Restinmacaroni wrote:
That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the
modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and
"Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.
Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
Do you like jazz, or elements of jazz, in your musical mix, or are you trying to stick to rock? Japan produces an inordinately high number of bands that you may like. Also, the RIO (Rock-In-Opposition) scene may be your bag. You can check for RIO bands (Cuneiform Records specializes in many) in the archives. If you already like bands like Univers Zero and Present, you're already on your way.
Il Berlione (Japan)
Bondage Fruit (Japan)
Ruins (Japan)
Koenji Hyakkei (Japan)
Sammla Mammas Manna (Swedish '70s experimental band that reformed for a couple albums 20 years ago)
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 12:22
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the
modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and
"Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.
Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
For symph maybe Birds and Building, Anglagard and All Traps on Earth(as was mentioned). Those do have some echoes of the past apparently but maybe not enough to drive you away not sure. Out of those I'm really only famililar with Anglagard and while there is some hints of the past they have their own sound and are doing their own thing. I guess it really boils down to how picky you are going to be. A band can be original and still have a sound that has influences from the past but I guess it depends on how they present those influences. If they are too easily identifiable then that could be a deal breaker for some(and frankly that sounds like it would be for you). So sample them on youtube first and see what you think.
I've actually listened to all three. All Traps On Earth and Birds and Buildings are probably the better ones for me. Some extraordinary musicianship I'll say, but not anything that pushes the envelop enough like the experimental musicianship and wizardry of Battles's "Mirrored" or the bizarre sonic identity of Secret Chiefs 3's "Book M", being RIO with dashes of Chamber and Arab Music as well as eccentricities as Jazz and, to a lesser extent, Noise (not to say that Battles's debut does not also have a mindblowing sonic identity itself).
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 12:35
verslibre wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the
modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and
"Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.
Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
Do you like jazz, or elements of jazz, in your musical mix, or are you trying to stick to rock? Japan produces an inordinately high number of bands that you may like. Also, the RIO (Rock-In-Opposition) scene may be your bag. You can check for RIO bands (Cuneiform Records specializes in many) in the archives. If you already like bands like Univers Zero and Present, you're already on your way.
Il Berlione (Japan)
Bondage Fruit (Japan)
Ruins (Japan)
Koenji Hyakkei (Japan)
Sammla Mammas Manna (Swedish '70s experimental band that reformed for a couple albums 20 years ago)
Thinking Plague (US)
Tipographica (Japan)
Many thanks for the recommendations. An absolutely on jazz, and RIO is definitely a hero of the sub-genres for me. I can't say I've listened to the two bands mentioned on your last statement, but I am fairly familiar with acts like Miriodor and Cardiacs, though the latter I would say fits more into its own kind of "Prank"(Progressive, Avant, and Punk) identity. On another note, I am festering a growing interest in Zeuhl as well, but I haven't really listened or discovered any new Zeuhl bands.
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 12:54
Three albums that I like that are quite unusual:
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens
The Mercury Tree - Spidermilk Helium Horse Fly - Helium Horse Fly
------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 12:58
I prophesy disaster wrote:
Three albums that I like that are quite unusual:
Lost Crowns - Every Night Something Happens
The Mercury Tree - Spidermilk Helium Horse Fly - Helium Horse Fly
Again, many thanks for the recommendations. Haven't heard any of these.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 13:11
Restinmacaroni wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
That just seems to be the case doesn't it? Some of my favorites from the
modern era ar from bands like Secret Chiefs 3 ("Book M" and
"Book of Horizons") and Nil's "Nil Novo Sub Sole." I also adore Battles's "Mirrored", so I'm guessing post/math rock is probably another contender there.
Thanks for the heads-up on the symph and neo-prog acts. I was hoping that symph would have something left to offer for me after all the calssics, but perhaps I was being too hasty with my last remark. Definitely a step wrong by forgetting that "any" includes neo-prog.
Do you like jazz, or elements of jazz, in your musical mix, or are you trying to stick to rock? Japan produces an inordinately high number of bands that you may like. Also, the RIO (Rock-In-Opposition) scene may be your bag. You can check for RIO bands (Cuneiform Records specializes in many) in the archives. If you already like bands like Univers Zero and Present, you're already on your way.
Il Berlione (Japan)
Bondage Fruit (Japan)
Ruins (Japan)
Koenji Hyakkei (Japan)
Sammla Mammas Manna (Swedish '70s experimental band that reformed for a couple albums 20 years ago)
Thinking Plague (US)
Tipographica (Japan)
Many thanks for the recommendations. An absolutely on jazz, and RIO is definitely a hero of the sub-genres for me. I can't say I've listened to the two bands mentioned on your last statement, but I am fairly familiar with acts like Miriodor and Cardiacs, though the latter I would say fits more into its own kind of "Prank"(Progressive, Avant, and Punk) identity. On another note, I am festering a growing interest in Zeuhl as well, but I haven't really listened or discovered any new Zeuhl bands.
For Zeuhl, definitely check out Japan's Koenji Hyakkei. Four albums, so far.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 13:51
^ Yeah, I think for new new prog, you've got to point out modern avant/rio and match post rock artists as I think they're ones that are really pushing boundaries and coming up with something new.
------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 13:51
French TV, Animals as Leaders, Jaga Jazzist, Body Hound, Ske, Marco Minnemann, Trioscapes, Nova Collective, Bubblemath, Richard Henshall, Virgil Donati, Thank You Scientist, The Aristocrats, and Mike Keneally.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 13:52
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
French TV, Animals as Leaders, Jaga Jazzist, Body Hound, Ske, Marco Minnemann, Trioscapes, Nova Collective, Bubblemath, Richard Henshall, Virgil Donati, Thank You Scientist, The Aristocrats, and Mike Keneally.
Whew, that's an impressive list. I didn't know that was your style of prog.
------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 18:03
TCat wrote:
There is so much out there, but here are a couple to get you started.
Kayo Dot - "Choirs of the Eye"
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - "Of Natural History"
The three recommendations made by I Prophesy Disaster are excellent and released just last year.
Thanks for the recommendations, and apologies for the late response--got busy. I haven't heard any of these.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 18:07
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
French TV, Animals as Leaders, Jaga Jazzist, Body Hound, Ske, Marco Minnemann, Trioscapes, Nova Collective, Bubblemath, Richard Henshall, Virgil Donati, Thank You Scientist, The Aristocrats, and Mike Keneally.
A nice list. I can recognize a few artists/bands there, but otherwise it seems to mostly be new things (for me).
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 15 2020 at 21:21
Funny. I actually listening to them right now and was about to recommend.
Telepathy?
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 01:06
Bubblemath - Edit Peptide Chrome Hoof - Chrome Black Gold Bent Knee - Shiny Eyed Babies Moulettes - Preternatural Poil - BrossaKlitt Jeremy Flower - The Real Me Faust - Fresh Air Wintergatan - Marble Music Swans - To Be Kind
Aaand so forth
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 01:16
Not totally my cup of tea but the De Lorians album seems to be very popular at the moment for those that like something more off the beaten track. If you like all the right notes played in the wrong order (to paraphrase a classic line from a Morecambe and Wise sketch) then this is definitely for you!
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 01:35
Guldbamsen wrote:
Faust - Fresh Air
Sooooo Great!
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 02:12
It really is. I have not been that crazy about Faust’s latter day material as much of it sounds like they’re merely copycatting themselves...but Fresh Air was exactly that, a breath of fresh air
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 02:27
I've heard absolutely zero progressive bands after 1990 that do anything for my ears.
I'm dead serious.
I haven't heard anything from 1990 forward that sounds like magic to me.
-------------
"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 02:31
I love or at least like really much all Faust-albums (well haven´t heard their two eighties releases from old material). I think C´est Com... , Faust Is Last & Something Dirty are as great as Fresh Air, in "j US t" there is a little bit a feel they´re coming yesterday´s band, but it´s really great in Fresh Air they showed to be alive & well! Also I haven´t been totally a fan of electro of Ravvivando.
Really hope they will come Finland this year!!
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 02:38
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
I've heard absolutely zero progressive bands after 1990 that do anything for my ears.
I'm dead serious.
I haven't heard anything from 1990 forward that sounds like magic to me.
So I quess you haven´t tried any Beefheart influenced bands also? Many of them mix punk in it, I am talking bands like the Birthday Party, the Pop Group, the Red Krayola, Pere Ubu, Minutemen, Trumans Water, U.S. Maple & Thinking Fellers Union Local 292 (those last three were active in the nineties, although Thinking Fellers started already eighties, the Red Krayola was very active also in nineties to 2000, the Pop Group have released two new albums and Pere Ubu has been active from these days)
But, I understand you, I also think the most magic years in pop/rock music were 1966-74.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 03:38
richardh wrote:
Not totally my cup of tea but the De Lorians album seems to be very popular at the moment for those that like something more off the beaten track. If you like all the right notes played in the wrong order (to paraphrase a classic line from a Morecambe and Wise sketch) then this is definitely for you!
I love the way you, quite accurately, describe their sound
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 03:53
Some more recs:
Kayo Dot - Coffins On Io a.P.A.t.T - Fun With Music Major Parkinson - Blackbox Anna Von Hausswolff - Dead Magic ZU - Jhator Elephant9 - Silver Mountain Fire! Orchestra - Exit Oranssi Pazuzu - Värähtelijä Nichelodeon - Bath Salts Cabezas de Cera - Metal Musica Aleaciones Aleatorias Palm - Rock Island Trojan Horse - Fukushima Surfer Boys Düreforsög - Knee
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 04:53
Guldbamsen wrote:
Some more recs:
Kayo Dot - Coffins On Io a.P.A.t.T - Fun With Music Major Parkinson - Blackbox Anna Von Hausswolff - Dead Magic ZU - Jhator Elephant9 - Silver Mountain Fire! Orchestra - Exit Oranssi Pazuzu - Värähtelijä Nichelodeon - Bath Salts Cabezas de Cera - Metal Musica Aleaciones Aleatorias Palm - Rock Island Trojan Horse - Fukushima Surfer Boys
Düreforsög - Knee
A tremendous thanks. So much material to check out!
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 05:18
You are quite welcome I love all kinds of music - also quite derivative stuff actually..though mostly psych or retro-like Berlin school electronic. It’s all down to the feel of the thing for me. Doesn’t have to be cutting edge to be good - it just needs some fire in it’s belly. That’s all really. I do however like to explore progressive music - like in genuinely progressive or merely truly unique sounding artists. Some times though they tend to reside outside of our usual tastes, which can be challenging at first. I certainly felt so when I first started diving into the more experimental side to pop and hip hop...but I think that ultimately had more to do with my preconceived ideas about the music than anything else.
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 06:06
Mortte wrote:
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
I've heard absolutely zero progressive bands after 1990 that do anything for my ears.
I'm dead serious.
I haven't heard anything from 1990 forward that sounds like magic to me.
So I quess you haven´t tried any Beefheart influenced bands also? Many of them mix punk in it, I am talking bands like the Birthday Party, the Pop Group, the Red Krayola, Pere Ubu, Minutemen, Trumans Water, U.S. Maple & Thinking Fellers Union Local 292 (those last three were active in the nineties, although Thinking Fellers started already eighties, the Red Krayola was very active also in nineties to 2000, the Pop Group have released two new albums and Pere Ubu has been active from these days)
But, I understand you, I also think the most magic years in pop/rock music were 1966-74.
Oh, don't get me wrong; I've heard and enjoyed music from many of those you've listed! I guess I'm biased and my expectations for completely novel stuff is way, way too high, lol. '66-'74 was a hell of a period. That era is like a constant goldmine!
-------------
"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 06:25
First things that came to my mind were Swans - Seer and the following albums, and a.P.A.t.T's Fun of Music, both already listed by Guldbamsen.
Anyway, you are probably aware of Art Zoyd but many don't know their more recent more radical work such as Champ des Larmes or Phase V, difficult to access for many but certainly unique.
The bands Sonar, Dawn of Midi and Schnellertollermeier have surprised me with a fresh spin on post/math rock.
Also I recommend some stuff not listed on PA, I love the Austrian band Radian (pretty much all of their albums are fine entry points for their sound), the Belgian "Stuff." sound very innovative to me, and you may want to check out some of Tyondai Braxton's material such as Central Market (he's the son of free jazzer Anthony Braxton and ex-member of Battles).
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 12:21
This thread needs video.
If you like any of these, I have others.
If you don't like any of these, I have others.
------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 06:45
Guldbamsen wrote:
Wintergatan - Marble Music
This rules of course! But David you aren't really being fair to not give video of the machine:
Only that way can one understand the genius of Martin Molin!
p.s. For those interested there is a whole series of videos about the design and construction of the machine that are really fascinating...if you like that kind of thing.
------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 07:44
^I thought about the video when I posted that actually....but didn’t include it because I only post over my phone...and well vids become links over the phone. Aaaanyway, thanks for helping out Simon! The video really shows another side to the music...and why it sounds the way it does. I’m always halfway between the cirkus and some weird theme park when I listen to that album...in a good way mind you
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 08:11
Loads of fantastic suggestions so far, I'll add:-
Corima
Piniol
Upsilon Acrux
In Love With
Free Salamander Exhibit
The Comet Is Coming
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 08:27
Lots of great music out there. Just need to go find it.
------------- The Prog Corner
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 06:42
Bump. Any new recommendations? I'm looking for more adventurous and modern prog.
Also, to be clear, I do remember listening to Nil and to Battles, but I don't remember if I had listened to Secret Chiefs 3. I probably had but I could have been not entirely truthful about having listened to it at the time. If so, my apologies for having spoken deceitfully as I was much younger back then.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 06:46
On a more positive note, though, at this point I think I'd very much enjoy listening to some new, innovative, out-of-control prog. Recommendations are appreciated if for nothing else than the effort to help a less seasoned listener out.
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 06:56
Without reading back through the last 2 pages, what do you determine 'Modern/New' to mean?
The last 20 years, 10 years, this year?
Are you familiar with Gordian Knot? Check out the album Emergent.
------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 07:41
I can't help you. I love Wobbler and Neal Morse and The Tangent and Big Big Train and The Flower Kings and Transatlantic. The music you enjoy just flies right over my head...
------------- The Prog Corner
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 08:03
JD wrote:
Without reading back through the last 2 pages, what do you determine 'Modern/New' to mean?
The last 20 years, 10 years, this year?
Are you familiar with Gordian Knot? Check out the album Emergent.
Here's what I'm looking for basically:
JD wrote:
New member looking for new progressive albums. And I vehemently mean progressive. Repackaging old sounds and giving them a contemporary slant does not work for me. I want something innovative, something out-of-control that I can't remain careless to, notes that act as characters with every intent and purpose behind them, whole albums that move the genre forward in a new way--something that progresses. An overly emotive and "darker" Foxtrot (looking at you IQ's Dark Matter) or a reiteration of Close To The Edge (From Silence To Somewhere) does not do that in any mileage. Those sounds were cutting-edge for their time, but now in my opinion. Any sub-genre of progressive music is fine as long as you think it fits this parameter.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 08:07
miamiscot wrote:
I can't help you. I love Wobbler and Neal Morse and The Tangent and Big Big Train and The Flower Kings and Transatlantic. The music you enjoy just flies right over my head...
Don't worry about it. I have grown to enjoy bands like Big Big Train, but what I really want in this thread are bands and/or albums that really experiment with pushing the envelope and break into new ground. And I don't mind listening to non-rock-based stuff either such as Fusion/Jazz, RIO, and Math/Post-prog.
Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 08:16
black midi is floating my boat these days:
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11806
------------- Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 08:22
Gentle and Giant wrote:
black midi is floating my boat these days:
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11806
Thanks for the rec mate! Cheers.
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 09:08
Restinmacaroni wrote:
JD wrote:
Without reading back through the last 2 pages, what do you determine 'Modern/New' to mean?
The last 20 years, 10 years, this year?
Are you familiar with Gordian Knot? Check out the album Emergent.
Here's what I'm looking for basically:
JD wrote:
New member looking for new progressive albums. And I vehemently mean progressive. Repackaging old sounds and giving them a contemporary slant does not work for me. I want something innovative, something out-of-control that I can't remain careless to, notes that act as characters with every intent and purpose behind them, whole albums that move the genre forward in a new way--something that progresses. An overly emotive and "darker" Foxtrot (looking at you IQ's Dark Matter) or a reiteration of Close To The Edge (From Silence To Somewhere) does not do that in any mileage. Those sounds were cutting-edge for their time, but now in my opinion. Any sub-genre of progressive music is fine as long as you think it fits this parameter.
Yes I read it. And your subject 'Modern/New" denotes a time component, or don't you recognize that? All I was asking for was a more definitive answer on that issue.
That aside...you didn't even answer my question on Gordian Knot.
Good luck on your search.
------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 09:14
JD wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
JD wrote:
Without reading back through the last 2 pages, what do you determine 'Modern/New' to mean?
The last 20 years, 10 years, this year?
Are you familiar with Gordian Knot? Check out the album Emergent.
Here's what I'm looking for basically:
JD wrote:
New member looking for new progressive albums. And I vehemently mean progressive. Repackaging old sounds and giving them a contemporary slant does not work for me. I want something innovative, something out-of-control that I can't remain careless to, notes that act as characters with every intent and purpose behind them, whole albums that move the genre forward in a new way--something that progresses. An overly emotive and "darker" Foxtrot (looking at you IQ's Dark Matter) or a reiteration of Close To The Edge (From Silence To Somewhere) does not do that in any mileage. Those sounds were cutting-edge for their time, but now in my opinion. Any sub-genre of progressive music is fine as long as you think it fits this parameter.
Yes I read it. And your subject 'Modern/New" denotes a time component, or don't you recognize that? All I was asking for was a more definitive answer on that issue.
That aside...you didn't even answer my question on Gordian Knot.
Good luck on your search.
My apologies for not responding accurately. That was my mistake. Perhaps "modern/new" in this setting would mean anything within this new mellennium? 2000s and onwards? On another note, I have not listened to Gordian Knot. Thank you for the rec though!
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 09:31
Fair enough, you may want to check out...
------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 09:35
JD wrote:
Fair enough, you may want to check out...
I've listened to the latter band (Anglagard) and album actually, but thanks for the rec on Gordian Knot!
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 10:01
MFTJ
Bryan Beller
Marco Minnemann
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 10:04
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
MFTJ
Bryan Beller
Marco Minnemann
Thanks for the recs mate. God bless!
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 26 2021 at 10:55
Gentle and Giant wrote:
black midi is floating my boat these days:
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11806
black midi is the most exciting band I've discovered in the last 2 years.
I'd also add two more bands from the same new London scene.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 27 2021 at 14:25
The Thank You Scientist album I played so far "maps of non existant places" was rather emo or indie sounding or something. I can't really explain it. If someone were to play snippets of it that just contained the vocal parts to someone who doesn't know any modern prog there's no way they would think of it as prog. As such it's maybe indie prog at best and reminds me a bit of Coheed and Cambria (not a good thing). I do have the follow up but haven't played it yet so maybe I should listen to that before writing this band off. As for Bent Knee, I have Land Animal and it sounded ok but I should probably play it again. Both bands are very good in concert though.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: October 27 2021 at 15:43
^Guess we hear differently. TYS is far from emo, and the album you mention, is one of my all time favorites. Oh well. Also, I like Coheed and Cambria. All prog doesn't have to sound like the 70's. Prog has evolved. Maybe you don't like modern prog? What modern prog do you approve of?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 27 2021 at 18:26
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
^Guess we hear differently. TYS is far from emo, and the album you mention, is one of my all time favorites. Oh well. Also, I like Coheed and Cambria. All prog doesn't have to sound like the 70's. Prog has evolved. Maybe you don't like modern prog? What modern prog do you approve of?
Yes, it has evolved but I guess I haven't. My favorites tend to be the more retro sounding stuff like the Flower Kings.
Posted By: Cylli Kat (0fficial)
Date Posted: October 27 2021 at 19:45
Soul Enema http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5597" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5597 Native Construct http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9469" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9469 Azure http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11824" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11824 These three came to mind for me.
Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second (as suggested earlier) I'd also recommend. As well as Kayo Dot & Thank You Scientist.
There have been a lot of really good options presented. Thanks OP, for starting a cool thread!
------------- (Insert Clever Words Here) I'm actually this guy: https://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=17597" rel="nofollow - Cylli Kat
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 28 2021 at 08:13
Restinmacaroni wrote:
PhideauxFan wrote:
-The three first albums of Oceansize (UK).
-Some albums of Amplifier (UK).
-Caligula's Horse, Karnivool, The Butterfly Effect (Australia).
-Dredg: El Cielo (USA).
-Long Distance Calling (Germany).
Thanks for the recs, mate! I appreciate it.
OK ! You can also try Weend'ō - Time Of Awakening (France).
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 29 2021 at 02:36
Not classified as 'prog' but it's interesting nevertheless
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 16:41
richardh wrote:
Not classified as 'prog' but it's interesting nevertheless
Jeffro wrote:
I'm really digging A Formal Horse lately
https://aformalhorse.bandcamp.com/
But I have no idea is that fits the OP's criteria.
Some others are Bent Knee and Thank You Scientist
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
^Guess we hear differently. TYS is far from emo, and the album you mention, is one of my all time favorites. Oh well. Also, I like Coheed and Cambria. All prog doesn't have to sound like the 70's. Prog has evolved. Maybe you don't like modern prog? What modern prog do you approve of?
Cylli Kat (0fficial) wrote:
Soul Enema http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5597" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5597 Native Construct http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9469" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9469 Azure http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11824" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11824 These three came to mind for me.
Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second (as suggested earlier) I'd also recommend. As well as Kayo Dot & Thank You Scientist.
There have been a lot of really good options presented. Thanks OP, for starting a cool thread!
PhideauxFan wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
PhideauxFan wrote:
-The three first albums of Oceansize (UK).
-Some albums of Amplifier (UK).
-Caligula's Horse, Karnivool, The Butterfly Effect (Australia).
-Dredg: El Cielo (USA).
-Long Distance Calling (Germany).
Thanks for the recs, mate! I appreciate it.
OK ! You can also try Weend'ō - Time Of Awakening (France).
richardh wrote:
Not classified as 'prog' but it's interesting nevertheless
Compiling the recommendations into this post for convenience. Thank you for all your recs, prog or otherwise (but mostly prog)! Also, I want to bump this thread, as I would also like more recommendations to keep my "to listen" list nice and long.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 16:46
I in particular would like some newer RIO, Zeuhl, Eclectic, and Fusion albums. Also definitely Math Rock/Post Rock. Those are some genres I'd like to expand on more. But don't feel limited! Especially new, innovative (meaning breaking new ground), and good works are definitely appreciated. You can even branch out into other genres as long as it breaks new ground and does something good and interesting with prog like in Mercury Tree's Spidermilk (as mentioned before).
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 17:02
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 17:48
Restinmacaroni wrote:
I in particular would like some newer RIO, Zeuhl, Eclectic, and Fusion albums. Also definitely Math Rock/Post Rock. Those are some genres I'd like to expand on more. But don't feel limited! Especially new, innovative (meaning breaking new ground), and good works are definitely appreciated. You can even branch out into other genres as long as it breaks new ground and does something good and interesting with prog like in Mercury Tree's Spidermilk (as mentioned before).
Your hard to please, aye? Have you not enjoyed the ones mentioned?
Fusion..
Math rock..
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 18:37
Restinmacaroni wrote:
I in particular would like some newer RIO, Zeuhl, Eclectic, and Fusion albums. Also definitely Math Rock/Post Rock. Those are some genres I'd like to expand on more. But don't feel limited! Especially new, innovative (meaning breaking new ground), and good works are definitely appreciated. You can even branch out into other genres as long as it breaks new ground and does something good and interesting with prog like in Mercury Tree's Spidermilk (as mentioned before).
There's loads of good RIO and Zeuhl on the first 2 pages.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 18:43
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
I in particular would like some newer RIO, Zeuhl, Eclectic, and Fusion albums. Also definitely Math Rock/Post Rock. Those are some genres I'd like to expand on more. But don't feel limited! Especially new, innovative (meaning breaking new ground), and good works are definitely appreciated. You can even branch out into other genres as long as it breaks new ground and does something good and interesting with prog like in Mercury Tree's Spidermilk (as mentioned before).
There's loads of good RIO and Zeuhl on the first 2 pages.
Cool beans! I was more looking for more stuff to listen to besides what was already posted. How about Fusion/Math/Eclectic albums?
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 18:47
^Really? Are my posts invisible?
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 20:27
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
French TV, Animals as Leaders, Jaga Jazzist, Body Hound, Ske, Marco Minnemann, Trioscapes, Nova Collective, Bubblemath, Richard Henshall, Virgil Donati, Thank You Scientist, The Aristocrats, and Mike Keneally.
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
I in particular would like some newer RIO, Zeuhl, Eclectic, and Fusion albums. Also definitely Math Rock/Post Rock. Those are some genres I'd like to expand on more. But don't feel limited! Especially new, innovative (meaning breaking new ground), and good works are definitely appreciated. You can even branch out into other genres as long as it breaks new ground and does something good and interesting with prog like in Mercury Tree's Spidermilk (as mentioned before).
Your hard to please, aye? Have you not enjoyed the ones mentioned?
Fusion..
Math rock..
Haha. No, they aren't. I was just asking for more stuff to listen to (plus I didn't see your latter message until now). My apologies if it seemed that your helpful contributions to the thread seemed to be passed off. I really do appreciate them. Thank you!
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 20:29
Btw, to be clear, I have not listened to everything posted here yet--just some of them, but I'm asking for more anyway to keep my "to listen" list nice and lengthy.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 20:30
Lewian wrote:
Thanks for the rec mate! Much appreciated! Any album recommendations?
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 02 2021 at 20:42
For Sonar I'd go with Black Light unless your a big David Torn fan in which go for Vortex.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 03:48
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
For Sonar I'd go with Black Light unless your a big David Torn fan in which go for Vortex.
Thanks!
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 07:50
This post is difficult to respond to since Restinmacaroni has not responded to any of our previous suggestions with a "yay" or "nay" to let us know if we're satisfying his desires/needs. To hear, "Thanks" and "i've hear" or "haven't heard" is simply not enough.
E.g. Did you like Nil? Did you like Bent Knee? or do you have an aversion to female vocals? Did you like Native Construct or Thank You Scientist? or do you not like machine-gun-like metal with a pop sensibility? Did you like Sonar, black midi, or Sleepytime Gorilla? or is it another type of Math Rock that you're looking for? etc.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 03 2021 at 17:38
BrufordFreak wrote:
This post is difficult to respond to since Restinmacaroni has not responded to any of our previous suggestions with a "yay" or "nay" to let us know if we're satisfying his desires/needs. To hear, "Thanks" and "i've hear" or "haven't heard" is simply not enough.
E.g. Did you like Nil? Did you like Bent Knee? or do you have an aversion to female vocals? Did you like Native Construct or Thank You Scientist? or do you not like machine-gun-like metal with a pop sensibility? Did you like Sonar, black midi, or Sleepytime Gorilla? or is it another type of Math Rock that you're looking for? etc.
A little help would be nice.
Sorry for not being clear on my preference. The goal of this thread is really not so much to cater to it (that is my preference) but to curate a list of bands people would recommend as innovative to add to my "to listen" list. I appreciate your consideration though, and having said that, I would say I enjoyed black midi, Nil, maudlin of the Well, Mercury Tree's Spidermilk, Motorpsycho's Death Defying Unicorn, Maygar Posse (iirc I did enjoy them), and Battles' Mirrored. Have yet to get to the other recommendations, so I can't really comment on those either.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 03:19
Listening to Marco Minnemann's "My Sister." Pretty fun stuff. And varied too. I'm enjoying it quite a lot.
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 00:08
Listening to "Book M" by Secret Chiefs 3. I likely didn't listen to the thing before, at least not entirely. I'm enjoying it quite a bit. To my surprise, Trey Spuance actually converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, something I wouldn't have guessed from listening to this stuff. I am happy that God has given him the grace of conversion, to say the least (although I myself am a Roman Catholic).
At any rate, what are you guys listening to right now?
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 02:59
-Greylevel: Hypostatic Union (Canada/2011). Influences: Porcupine Tree, The Pineapple Thief, Pendragon, Devin Townsend, ...
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 07:09
Bent Knees new one, not sure about it at all.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 09:18
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Bent Knees new one, not sure about it at all.
Shiny Eyed Babies was a masterpiece. But with each album they have managed to get further away from music I enjoy. The last album I didn't like at all, so I have few expectations for this one. Even the way they live perform tracks from SEB has changed. When I saw them that insane, raw breakdown on Way Too Long was completely watered down.
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 09:53
I agree, Shiny Eyed Babies and Say So are my favorites and they've drifted further away over the following albums. When I saw them the first time promoting SEB they were raw and energetic.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 20:45
From Canada, you can also listen to Incura: s/t (Inside Out label). Influences: alternative/progressive metal/rock, Queen, ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRJBHNiC5Q" rel="nofollow - Who You Are - Official Music Video - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRtGQnSSvqQ" rel="nofollow - INCURA - Get The Gun (OFFICIAL LYRIC VIDEO) - YouTube
Posted By: Restinmacaroni
Date Posted: November 08 2021 at 06:55
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I am not the person to ask
Haha. No worries man.
Tapfret wrote:
Restinmacaroni wrote:
As a side note, though, if you guys were to recommend 5 albums to get someone into modern progressive rock, what would those albums be?
Here's a cross section of my favorites since 2000
Poil - Brossaklit
Squintaloo - Uber Bord
Exivious - s/t
Mimedyr - Minym
Nebelnest - Nova Express
Here's some clips.
Thanks for the recs man. As a side note, though, what would you list if you were given the option of 1989 onwards?
PhideauxFan wrote:
From Canada, you can also listen to Incura: s/t (Inside Out label). Influences: alternative/progressive metal/rock, Queen, ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRJBHNiC5Q" rel="nofollow - Who You Are - Official Music Video - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRtGQnSSvqQ" rel="nofollow - INCURA - Get The Gun (OFFICIAL LYRIC VIDEO) - YouTube
Hey! Thanks for the recs! Those influences sound pretty interesting, so I hope I get to listen to these soon!
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 18 2021 at 12:39
Consider the Source
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 19 2021 at 02:47
I have no problem with modern artists playing within older styles, so long as they have their own sound and are inspired. It's unreasonable to expect endless innovation. Every time an album is released, it inherently becomes more difficult to create music that is significantly different than everything that came before.
That being said, here are a few fairly original modern artists, in my view.
After Crying, Echolyn, Mike Keneally, Isildurs Bane, Frost*, Ciccada, Gösta Berlings Saga