Discipline vs Remain in Light
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Topic: Discipline vs Remain in Light
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: Discipline vs Remain in Light
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 09:28
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Both are very solid albums in my book. Clearly discipline takes huge influence from the talking heads, especially in the vocals. King Crimson might run away with This just cause the website we are on but honestly vote and give your reasoning. I prefer the talking heads actually on this one. Never was a fan of the sheltering sky and the title track is a bit meh off discipline. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 10:01
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I think the influence of Talking Heads on Discipline is somewhat overstated. I surely don't see more Talking Heads in Discipline than Moody Blues in ITCOTCK. There is a connection, sure, but all music is influenced by something, and Discipline is pretty high up the originality and innovation scale itself. I like the Talking Heads and Remain in Light is a fine album, but Disciplin is easily among my top 5 of all time.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 10:07
| Wow, I did this one a while ago. If you searched for it it should have popped up. ;) |
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 10:08
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I love Remain In Light but I do think it trails off a bit near the end. Discipline may not have been the same without it but I think it does enough to distinguish itself and has a lot more variety. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 10:20
With no remain in light there would not have been discipline. I haven't heard RIL in quite a while and I'm not really super familiar with it anyway so no vote.
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Mirakaze wrote:Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 11:28
| Remain In Light |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 11:43
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Discipline.....being a KC fan....., Remain is a good album but I never really warmed up to Byrne's voice. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 12:17
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^ interesting, I always though belew was strongly imitating Byrne in 80s crimson and they sound really close. ------------- The sun has left the sky... ...Now you can close your eyes |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 14:15
Same. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 14:29
| I saw David Byrne on Seth Meyers last night. He's doing some sort of musical performance thing these days. Not really sure of the details but maybe like some sort of opera. Anyway, I never had an issue with his voice and I like the T-Heads quite a bit. I remember this guy I worked with a long time ago(mid 90's) saying that he wasn't much of a fan of 80's King Crimson because it sounded too much like the Talking Heads(as if that was some kind of insult. Lol.). |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 14:32
Yep. Belew, Byrne and also Eno and Bryan Ferry all seem to have a very similar vocal range and sound imo.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 14:43
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Easily, KC ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: January 07 2020 at 17:55
------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 01:03
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Discipline ... but both. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 02:30
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Discipline...and I just so happened to pick up the 30th anniversary addition yesterday (which is now what, 39th anniversary edition ;)). ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 10:46
| I'll vote for' Discipline,' even though I like 'Remain in Light' a lot, but is no contest. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 12:02
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Remain in Light but very close. ------------- |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 17:59
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Discipline is too cold, calculating, cybernetic, to be passionate about it (plus there are too many instrumental pieces). For me, KC perform best when they play more rock or more melodic. Remain in Light has the same cybernetic setting, but a much warmer funky rhythm and almost paroxysmal rhythms, especially on the first side, which seems to me much better than the second. All in all I prefer it. They are records that give me a cerebral pleasure, which I consider important but I'm not appassionate about them, they do not warm my heart, and do not make me want to listen to them often, especially Discipline, which is innovative in terms of sound, in the evolution of KC, as Larks, but in the same way I prefer Red to Larks, I prefer Beat to Discipline. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 23:09
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------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: January 09 2020 at 06:19
Agree with this, although Discipline would not be in my top 5 of all time, but possibly in my top 25 ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: January 10 2020 at 16:05
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'Remain in Light' by a gigantic margin. ------------- Believe me Pope Paul, my toes are clean |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 11 2020 at 11:54
I can see a Belew, Byrne, Eno comparison...but I don't think Ferry sounds anything like them. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: January 12 2020 at 18:11
I choose the light. 
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 08:24
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Discipline ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |