Are you sometimes extremely disappointed that no-one appears to react to something you posted on this forum that you find totally exciting and awesome, let's say some musical news or a music video? You think everyone should find this totally awesome, but for some reason no-one seems to share your excitement and you feel really... well, what exactly? Frustrated? Angry? Disappointed? Stupid? Whatever it is, it certainly happens to me occasionally.

If this happens to you too, how do you deal with it? Do you sulk? Do you just shrug it off? What is your reaction?

Good question.  Yes, my Mixed Herbs & Spices thread has only received 13 views and no posts so far, over two months on from being posted in the Just for Fun forum. It doesn't bother me though because I didn't write it especially for this website, so I just shrug it off and say "Heigh-Ho. C'est La Vie". I'll copy & paste it here then it might receive a few more views.

 

 

I was lying in bed listening to CINNAMON Girl by Neil Young when I had a call at 9am preCICELY from my girlfriend ANGELICA in SAFFRON Walden. She SAGEly advised me to wrap up warm because it's CHILI outside today. We're in a VANILLA relationship. She earns a good CELERY in the city and does paper-folding, or "OREGANO" in her spare time. She's CUMIN 'round later, so I'd better not waste THYME by DILLy-dallying. I need to CURRY favour with her because I'm GINGERly going to ask if I can borrow her favourite Simon & Garfunkel album, PARSLEY, SAGE, ROSEMARY & THYME. It's one of her rare albums from the arCHIVES which is in MINT condition. I dabbed on some ALLSPICE aftershave. I'd lost my comb so I MUSTARD left it in my car overnight. If I don't hurry up, the police will tow my CAR AWAY as it's in a No Parking zone. I want to try out a new spicy recipe from NIGELLA Lawson, so I need to pick up some NUTMEG, TURMERIC, TARRAGON vinegar and TABASCO sauce while I'm out. It's Mother's Day soon, so I need to buy some LAVENDER talc and a CARD A MOM will enjoy. ANGELICA & I are going to watch a crime CAPER on TV some THYME later, where she'll no doubt PEPPER me with questions about the plot. We both like Fawlty Towers, so we'll be watching BASIL Fawlty after the movie.

Yes, this had happened to me, and more than just occasionally, and I am glad you started a thread on this, it needs to be addressed.

         The truth of the matter is that there is a small clique of about a dozen PA members on the forum that tend to dominate with their favorite bands, attitudes towards music, and if you don't fit in, which I feel I don't, then you get ignored, or attacked, psychologically.

           There are a few members, some of the most established members of the forums even, of this small group that are bullies, and doing what bullies do best, either attacking people who don't fit their mold, or ignoring them, and, yes, being ignored is a form of bullying.

             Now, I am not going to name names, because that won't change a thing-a bully  is a bully, no matter what, but I am being honest in what I have just noted about the PA forums.

                Anyhow, I do have to into work now, but please think about what I have remarked upon.

At least this thread hasn't been ignored.

interesting POV..  compare this forum to others and it is remarkably free of cliques..  I had the last one .. the last serious one but that was over a decade ago when my genre teams doubled as finger brakers and knee busters and unofficial law around these parts and policing the forum and ridding it of good taste and modesty. Most either ended up in shallow graves, got married and retired to the 'burbs, or just retired.. one even became respectable and became a f**king admin which was the funniest damn thing.. as we were the bane of the classic admin teams existence.. or their greatest source of entertainment..  likely both I suppose.

sure there are black hats, bullies and the occasional freak of modern chemistry.. but they really just add a bit of character to the forum. Otherwise it would be even more dull than it can be.

and as far as bullies.. I would be curious to know who you were thinking of.  Naturally as I was one of the biggest the site ever saw.. I have have an eye out for them.. but haven't really any around..  at least any that compare the classic days of the site where they were a dime a dozen around here. 

the site today is remarkably well behaved and respectful..  if a bit on the dull side..  

as the proud owner of the title of  'Forum Moron #1' I'll take that Friede..

the classic posters who have been around for years have seen the stuff you have posted.. either dug it or didn't..

what I have noticed more and more over the years is the newer posters... seem less interested in discovery than we were.. and really are more interested in talking about what they like.. fans of certain groups rather than the music itself..

so topics like yours are bound to not get much love I suppose

To be Frank with you Friede, calling us all musical morons won't win you many admirers here.

This post hasn't been ignored and you haven't done anything wrong.

 

I hope this "era" won't last, now my guess is most of us know what we want and where to find it so on rare occasions we'll check new stuff (at least that's what I do). It's like there's a lot of food we enjoy on the table and we don't need more...

what the forum is today is reflective of what of what has been going on in the larger community for the last 6 or 7 years. Will it end? Sure I suppose so but with it will be the forum itself as one half .. the one dying off.. is the one that primarily supports and uses this site and they in general know what they want to hear and listen to and don't really care about much else.

exceptions to that abound of course.. but as a generalization.. you bet your ass it does apply. It is that is known to be going on, and  something I've been watching, observing and discussing with musicians for the last few years. The divorce between the prog and progressive camps. .and poor Friede is trying to get people on a forum with rather conservative tastes that go ape sh*t over the latest retread 'prog' album that has pretty much zero notion of being progressive.  No wonder her entreaties get little attention..  and the people that might find it of interest. They don't really visit here.. the stink of prog rock pervades this place hahaha

Gotta give people some time.  I saw your post in the morning yesterday but was stuck at work all day. Didn't have the time to get to it.

They're just a little long sometimes. 

A simple explanation that applies to me and maybe to most people is that I sometimes log in on my phone and I don't watch videos there.

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My impression is that in this forum very often people post what they like but there isn't much discussion or reaction (obviously there is also the odd discussion but that's a different story... it rarely comes out of people posting music). I occasionally listen to music that is posted, mentioned or linked here. Sometimes I leave a response but not always. I hang around in the internet too much and when I post something I later look whether there are responses, so it takes even more time. So I may not always post a reply (how much does it change the world anyway if I post "that's awesome, thanks" - OK I see it's nice, and occasionally I do it).

I have been ignored often but not more than other people. It's just how things are here. Gotta live with it. 

By the way I know Barbare Dennerlein is an awesome musician, but her style of jazz is just not my cup of tea.

I own 4 Barbara Dennerlein albums (Junkanoo is my favourite) but I certainly don't think those who don't share our enthusiasm are 'musical morons'. Once you start conflating your opinion with fact it's probably best to call in the mental health professionals. Why does your significant other's opinion not count? (do you require validation from third parties to justify your aesthetic values?)

With all due respect DE, the ladies were right ... another post with nothing to say about the topic!

 

I'm assuming that's his comment on why some of your posts get ignored?

BaldFriede wrote: Are you sometimes extremely disappointed that no-one appears to react to something you posted on this forum that you find totally exciting and awesome, let's say some musical news or a music video? You think everyone should find this totally awesome, but for some reason no-one seems to share your excitement and you feel really... well, what exactly? Frustrated? Angry? Disappointed? Stupid? Whatever it is, it certainly happens to me occasionally.   If this happens to you too, how do you deal with it? Do you sulk? Do you just shrug it off? What is your reaction?

I've even had one one-post thread that turned into a 120 pager (non-music forum) some 6 to 8 years down the line - somehow I felt like a groundbreaking precursor.  

 

yeah, there is a lesson to be learnt from such a finding

 

I would be interested in that but I do most of my PA surfing at work and I can't play YouTube videos because our machines don't have the memory to play them (and it wouldn't go down too well in the office).

 

You also have to give some time for people to react... Though the forum is not nearly as populated as it once was and also see at what time you posted it (11AM sounds fine) to get some quick answers.  

 

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Dennerlein's name was vaguely familiar to me and 30 seconds of the kive video proved to me that wgatever I thought was correct... And I'm not into straight(forward) or dixieland jazz...  Not into Bop or Swing either, BTW.

 

If I'm to point out Muriel Grossmann on PA , I wouldn't expect much feedback either (at least less so than on the jazz section of music forums I partake into). This is more of my type of jazz (Modal - or Spiritual in a recent revisionism), BTW. 

 

Would YOU have reacted, Friede? Would have even opened my thread at all?

 

Logan wrote: I checked out that video but the music didn't excite me. If that makes me a "musical moron", so be it.

This is a good point: the distinct probability that some have listened, were not knocked-out, and moved on.   There's no time to give one's continuous full attention to artists that don't excite you--  sacrifices must be made.   Further, it's a mistake to assume that people haven't listened and/or don't have the good taste to like something you do.

You assume correctly. It's amazing that someone can type so many words and say absolutely nothing of relevance. He writes words as if an army of ants are swarming on the page trying desperately to march right off it.

Also, music tastes are different. Really like to share opinion when somebody else has found some great music I have also found. But why comment, if somebody likes something much you don´t find interesting at all? Also, so much great music made in this world, just haven´t got time to listen everything somebody else recommends. Also, I haven´t ever understand why people should listen only the newest music, I´ve found the music I like the most (the melodies, structures & sounds) has made in the fifties/sixties/seventies/eighties/nineties and I still found artists from those decades never heard before.