Favourite Dutch Band
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Topic: Favourite Dutch Band
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Favourite Dutch Band
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 02:24
I'm predicting Focus will win this poll. 
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 06:07
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Cool poll! It was hard to choose between Alquin, Focus, and Solution, but decided to go with Solution. Their first three albums are classics, and under-rated as anything!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 06:11
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Since you left two open slots slots, Supersister is my favourite (EDIT: by the way, I wasn't the one who voted in an open slot as I figured you planned to edit in suggestions). I know you mentioned not knowing it or the others in my mainland Europe Canterbury Scene poll. You mentioned liking Caravan there, and indeed this one can be similar (oddly, was going to mention that over there to you, then saw this poll). Probably will mention that there too as I treat polls also as reference guides for people. That said, Focus has been one of my very favourite bands, and on your list, I still very often play Earth & Fire's Song of the Marching Children -- I adore the "Song of the Marching Children" suite (would have voted for E&F if not for the open slots). I also like Solution, Golden Earring and mentioned track of theirs in another poll recently, and others. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 06:43
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Took the last open slot for my Dutch favourites Kong. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 06:52
Supersister has some interesting and complex time signature changes in that 10-minute song, although I would need to listen to it several times to really get into the music. It was a difficult choice selecting a favourite Dutch band from my own poll, but I eventually went with Earth & Fire. I love the "Song of the Marching Children" suite too.  I left two empty slots in my poll for later suggestions, but unfortunately, I can't add the band names in now as someone's already voted in those two empty slots. It was my fault though for not mentioning at the beginning of my thread that I'd left those two empty slots to add bands in retroactively who I might have missed out of the poll. I wish I'd done that with my "Favourite Female Bands" poll, then I could have added The Corrs, who might have given Heart a run for their money.
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Logan wrote:Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 07:00
Thanks! I can highly recommend the following 2-CD compilation album by Solution as a worthy addition to any CD collection...  |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 07:46
Do you mean that you literally can not edit Supersister and Kong in, or that you won't because each empty slot has a vote? If the second option, I don't see it as a problem yet. Lewian it seems voted for the last spot for Kong, and while I didn't vote in the poll (but posted around the same time someone did vote for other), that person who voted for the second to last option did not even list the "other" choice, a wag or generally disgruntled person perhaps, and I would not vote in the poll and could count that as my vote if you add Supersister to that spot. At least Supersister would be in the right place alphabetically. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 08:02
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No problem. I can add Supersister and Kong to the 11th and 12th slots in my poll.
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 08:11
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I only know Focus, so no vote. Sorry for my ignorance. ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 08:25
You might recall Golden Earring had a hit with "Radar Love" and Shocking Blue are best-known for "Venus".
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 08:41
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 09:00
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easily Earth and Fire I like Focus but they never really put together an album that I thought was great
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 09:35
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Kayak made the most records I listen to, but I also really like Focus and Supersister. I would also recommend Alquin's first two albums and Earth and Fire's Song of the Marching Children. ------------- I'm guitarist and songwriter for the prog-related band Mother Bass. Find us at http://www.motherbass.com. I also enter stages throughout the Netherlands performing my poetry. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 09:46
| Where is Finch and Trace? |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 09:53
oh yeah, Finch is great. I also love The Gathering. With or without the awesome Anneke.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 10:17
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TRACE R C A A C R ECART ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 10:24
I agree that the Gathering is great but I think the focus here(no pun intended)is on older bands from the first wave of prog.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 10:26
^ there are 2 non-prog bands in there though   |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 10:33
There's also a Golden Years of Dutch Pop Music compilation available for all of the first 10 artists in my poll. You can find them all listed on Discogs.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 10:40
You're right. The Focus was on the older Dutch bands from the 1970's.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 10:44
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Alquin. Focus and Supersister also have a place in my national top 5. I only wonder what Shocking Blue and The Cats are doing in a list of prog related bands... ------------- 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 10:59
Shocking Blue are a Psychedelic Rock band and Psychedelic Rock is listed as one of the many sub-genres of Prog-Rock on the main page of Prog Archives. I included The Cats on the grounds that they're a Psychedelic Pop band, although admittedly, it might be a bit of a stretch to call them "Prog-related"
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 11:07
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^ what's psychedelic about Shocking Blue? |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 11:15
They're listed as Psychedelic Rock on both Wikipedia and Discogs and I've always considered them to be a Psychedelic Rock band too, having listened to all of their albums.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 11:24
you still have not answered my question.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 11:45
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Christi, here's some classic Psychedelic Rock for you from Shocking Blue. |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 12:14
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Like Golden Earring and the only album I know from Kayak, but my vote goes to Focus ------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 12:22
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Shocking Blue definitely has psychedelic pop/rock qualities, but unless one considers most everything musically psychedelic to be prog-related, which one could, I would only loosely think of it as prog-related (to me saying something has some prog relation is not the same as saying it should be considerable for the Prog Related category). We have a Psych Rock category, but of course that's Progressive Psych Rock, and it's the progressive bit that tends t be important for inclusion. Hey, maybe it should be included as an Indo-Prog/ Raga Rock Related band? This is mighty fine: I wouldn't be surprised if someone takes me to task me on poor expression in this post. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 12:39
Thanks for posting those two great songs!  Shockingly, none of the three Shocking Blue songs posted so far in this thread are included in my 2-CD compilation album below.... |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 12:46
| Wow, just found out that Nirvana did a cover of "love buzz." I never heard that song before but I never would have guessed Nirvana(the US band not the UK psych band)did a cover of a Shocking Blue song. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 12:57
I much-preferred the English Nirvana to the American Grunge band. |
Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 13:22
Yes, this is one of my favourite bits of pub quiz type trivia: What do Nirvana and Bananarama have in common? [Both covered a Dutch psych-beat group.] Love Shocking Blue's originals for both those tracks. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 13:23
If you ever want to play a practical joke on someone(of the "who's on first" variety)then try this. Ask them to guess the name of this band. When they say they don't know then say it's Nirvana. They will probably say "well, the original version is Nirvana" but what's the name of this band? You then say Nirvana. You will probably go around in circles for a while until they finally figure out that the "cover band" is also called Nirvana. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 13:47
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focus ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 14:18
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Golden Earring closely followed by Earth & Fire. Really like most of the other bands too. Great pipes on Mariska Veeres.(not sure I spelled that right.) ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 21:42
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not familiar with a lot of them but Focus is a top tier prog band --and Hamburger Concerto is their masterpiece. Ackerman and Van Leer are first rate players....but recent Focus not my thing.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 23:29
Almost. It's Veres, with one e. By the way, The Cats had some Veerman guys (with two e's) in their ranks .-------------
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 23:51
| It's between Kayak and Focus for me and the former wins. I find Focus perhaps too much 'fusion' orientated at times while Kayak stick only to a song based approacj. Their first 4 albums are certainly their best and, although they had a dip around about 1978 when they started chasing the US scene, they pulled it back with the excellent 1983 Merlin album. After a long hiatus they put out some solid albums in the late 90's onwards. I enjoyed their most recent album (Seventeen) a lot and it shows that they are still going strong. Looking forward to seeing them in support of The Flower Kings in London in December. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 16 2019 at 23:56
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maybe I need to give Kayak another chance. I don't remember what I heard from them that kinda put me off... |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 00:09
Their second album Kayak II is their best imo . They did get a bit lame from about 78-82 and then there are the more recent 'Prog Opera' albums (Merlin, Nostradamus and Cleopatra) that will always divide opinion!
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 00:10
This 2-CD compilation album is a good introduction to the band. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 00:12
| I generally don't like Kayak compilations because they 'focus' on the radio friendly stuff. ie Wintertime is a good song but not reflective of their early seventies output. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 00:23
There's also a Focus compilation that focuses on the radio friendly stuff.   |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 01:43
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If that last option is meant to be "other", that's what I chose - and it's PESTILENCE! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 11:33
| Most likely Focus will win, so I voted for Golden Earring. If SBB was in this poll, my vote would go for them. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 11:51
| SBB is Polish I'd always thought, unless SBB is being used as initialism for something else. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 12:52
You’re right. I guess I got confused. |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: October 17 2019 at 13:06
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Trace, which isn't on the list. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: October 21 2019 at 18:30
| Other - Gruppo Sportivo |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 21 2019 at 23:46
The Cats are Palingpop, not quite a subgenre, but rather a geographical indication, my small country's counterpart of RPI1: They come from Volendam, a picturesque fishermen's village.
They are about as proggy as The Cats, anyway… 1) On the other hand, Krautrock, though it seems geographical, may be regarded as a subgenre.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 22 2019 at 00:58
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Maybe it's time for a Krautrock poll.
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: October 22 2019 at 14:54
| Ayreon? |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 23 2019 at 00:20
lol
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: October 23 2019 at 06:05
Absolutely!
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Posted By: HarryAngel746
Date Posted: October 23 2019 at 16:46
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There was underground Dutch band Kracq with very blurred/lo-fi sound. Their only 1978 album Circumvision stuck in my head. This style is really intriguing, has all shades of grayness and brings to mind French Ocarinah and generally "French style" prog a bit. Day in Day Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miI4bMLy5bg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miI4bMLy5bg (0:45 piano melody brings to mind some melody from Anglarard or Morte Macabre) Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3UkSkqigOA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3UkSkqigOA
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 25 2019 at 10:55
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Focuse ------------- |
Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: October 27 2019 at 12:45
Agreed. But I am of an extremely literalist bent, and the poll asked for "Favorite Dutch Band". Equally, I could have gone the other way and cited the Willem Breuker Kollektief, which was one of my favorite jazz bands.
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 28 2019 at 08:18
| Kayak - for those first five albums!!! |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 15 2020 at 11:17
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Focus ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |