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"Larks' Tongues in Aspic" Vs. "Red"

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Topic: "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" Vs. "Red"
Posted By: zawesomekid
Subject: "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" Vs. "Red"
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 12:38
Question - Which Album you like better?
  1. Larks' Tongues in Aspic                       
  2. Red  
There's no poll because I don't have enough points to make a correct poll



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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 13:17
Not exactly how the polls are run, but ok.

1 Vote for Larks Tongue


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 13:25
One needs 40 points to create polls in the usual way here (with poll options that one can vote for).

I don't have a problem with doing polls this way, and in some ways I prefer it (I'm not that keen on secret votes when it comes to such things).

Another vote for Larks' Tongues in Aspic.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 13:31
Oh, this one is hard. I guess Red, just by a bit.


Posted By: zawesomekid
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:01
Also, how can I run a poll correctly? Since I am new here.



Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:06
Larks' Tongues In Aspic is for me the greatest King Crimson album. Even over the debut ye thouest muste pute at front of ye Prog classiums.
Red has some of the best Rock ever put to vinyl. But it hasn't got the planetfall, Rover launch and fresh new worlds promised in Larks'Tongues In Aspic.


Posted By: zawesomekid
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:06
I personally vote for "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" because each song is more complete, in "Red" one song doesn't fell complete "One More Red Nightmare" because the climax feels close but it just stops which is very disappointing in my opinion, other than that, excellent song. I would say that "Red" is more cohesive as an album though since the tension is shown in 4 ways building up to "Starless" which is the best King Crimson song unlike "Larks' Tongues in Aspic"; moreover, it's not as cohesive as "Red" but also is cohesive somewhat in its own way unlike "Red", so it is extremely hard to chose a winner, so I'd accept any opinion on which is better.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:10
Originally posted by zawesomekid zawesomekid wrote:

Also, how can I run a poll correctly? Since I am new here.



Keep posting until you reach 40 points, then you should see the option to create polls and vote for poll options. It was set up this way because we had abuse.

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Posted By: zawesomekid
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:13
Thank you.


Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:37
I don't understand the appeal of Larks' Tongues in Aspic. Although it does have its moments, overall I find the album to be quite uninteresting. By contrast, I quite like Red, so it gets my vote without hesitation.
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 14:50
A rather close call. Both albums have some ups and downs. One more Red vote anyway.

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Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 15:29
Red is my choice.


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 15:53
I'd vote LTIA.  I also prefer Starless & Bible Black to Red, but they are all excellent.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 16:13
Where's the poll? Lol.

Anyway, both are great but I vote for Larks tongues in aspic. 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 16:15
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

A rather close call. Both albums have some ups and downs. One more Red vote anyway.

No downs at all on LTIA imo. All tracks are brilliant even book of Saturday.


Posted By: zawesomekid
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 16:20
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Where's the poll? Lol.

Anyway, both are great but I vote for Larks tongues in aspic. 

I don't have enough points to make an actual poll.


Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 18:44
Definitely red, Larks is a bit too jammy for me at times, both great albums


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 19:11
Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Definitely red, Larks is a bit too jammy for me at times, both great albums

I find larks more to my liking but both are great albums and there is no wrong answer. 

That said one my biggest problems with red is the repetitiousness of the title track. That main riff just goes on and on and even after the cello part it comes back and just does the same thing over and over again. It would have been a great three or four minute track at the most but at over six minutes it's a bit much with too little variation(I have the same issue with cry baby cry by the Beatles). Also, the improv piece Providence isn't bad but it's still an improv piece which means it just sort of meanders with no real direction. I prefer the one on S&BB. Finally, I don't like how "starless" winds up. It's an intense tune with some great playing but towards the end it gets too chaotic(and even jammy) and just kind of loses me. So for me LTIA is more consistent with no real flaws. It is a crazy album though which is what I like about it. I do think both albums(and also S&BB)are real classics though and probably KC's best period just slightly above the disjointed lineup on the first two albums. 


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 07 2019 at 19:38
Red is excellent but Larks is top 5 all-time for me.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 01:17
Red


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 02:13
LTIA. http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2138872" rel="nofollow - Read my review to find out my exact reason why! 

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 02:27
Red

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 03:37
Somehow for me personally these albums have always felt very different from each other but my impression today is that they have more in common than I had realized.
LTIA - excellent album with lots to discover. Feels a bit cold and intellectual at times, and the mix is uneven.
Red - uses some of the best elements of LTIA in more direct and condensed form. This always had more appeal to me, but LTIA is catching up these days. Still vote for Red.


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 05:55
Red


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 05:57
"Larks' Tongues in Aspic"


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 06:57
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

One needs 40 points to create polls in the usual way here (with poll options that one can vote for).

My bad, I completely missed that small detail...nevermind.


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 07:26
Could go with either. LTIA by a smidge...

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 11:43
Today is Lark's, tomorrow might be Red, and so forth. Both great albums, with great music I enjoy very much. 


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 15:20
In a word, Red.

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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 16:58
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Today is Lark's, tomorrow might be Red, and so forth. Both great albums, with great music I enjoy very much. 

Works for me. 


Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: September 08 2019 at 22:28
Lark’s Tongues in Aspic easily.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 09 2019 at 00:48
Red by a slim margin. Larks is excellent.

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 09 2019 at 06:43
Both are great, but I dig Red more.


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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: September 09 2019 at 08:11
Larks' Tongues... especially because of the track "The Talking Drum"... one of may all-time favorites.


Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: September 09 2019 at 08:43
Both are great but LTIA is my pick.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: September 09 2019 at 09:46
In Larks KC creates a new sound: historically, Larks is more important than Red.

But If I consider the quality and the beauty of the music, Red is superior. Red is a real masterpiece, 

Larks is a great album but not a great masterpiece.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 09 2019 at 10:44
Red....

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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: September 16 2019 at 15:37
Larks in the afternoon, Red in the evening.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 17 2019 at 18:35
Larks

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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 17 2019 at 19:44
slight edge to Larks but these albums aren't really my thing


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 17 2019 at 20:58
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

slight edge to Larks but these albums aren't really my thing

Which ones are your thing?


Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 17 2019 at 21:54
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

slight edge to Larks but these albums aren't really my thing

Which ones are your thing?

by KC, the first 4 albums to one degree or another, but especially the first


Posted By: Braka1
Date Posted: October 04 2019 at 10:52
Larks, but narrowly prefer Starless to either.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 05 2019 at 03:13
A close call. I pick Red. Neither are my favourite KC albums, but both are better than Starless.

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Posted By: thief
Date Posted: November 05 2019 at 00:09
It's a tough question, really.
Red is kind of unique in KC catalogue because I could enjoy in most circumstances. I put it on many times while  stuck in the traffic, waiting in the line, going for a walk or shopping groceries, and I DID enjoy it - at least Side A. Larks' Tongues in Aspic is the opposite: I'd like to have it on my headphones while completely alone, Saturday morning preferably, to hear all the nuances and idiosyncracies of the opening track and "The Talking Drum".

While Larks' have jaw dropping potential, it's much easier to get into Red and enjoy it on a daily basis. For this reason I'm willing to vote Red, today.


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 09:10
RED 

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