Movies You Love but Think Not Many Others Have See
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Topic: Movies You Love but Think Not Many Others Have SeePosted By: MortSahlFan
Subject: Movies You Love but Think Not Many Others Have See
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 16:35
Harry and Tonto Buffalo '66 Mikey and Nicky A Taste of Cherry Johnny Got His Gun What Happened Was... Dodsworth The Incident Never On Sunday Loneliness of a Long-Distance Runner Shadows In Paradise Ladybug, Ladybug La Tera Trema Fists In Pocket David and Lisa Il Sorpasso Whity Two Is A Happy Number Hombre Il Tetto The Blue Hotel Zandy's Bride Little Fugitive Lies My Father Told Me The Working-Class Goes To Heaven Joe (1970) Come Back, Little Sheba Home of the Brave L'Argent
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 17:24
The Brother from Another Planet The Bothersome Man. Doppelgänger (Kiyoshi Kurosawa) City of Lost Children The History of Time Travel Jamon Jamon Max Manus: Man of War
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 17:39
Profundo Rosso
Shock Treatment
RSVP
Don't Torcher a Duckling
The Leopard
Murder by Decree
The Attic Expeditions
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 17:44
^I have a friend who collects every possible release, movie poster, etc for Profundo Rosso. I suspect its not known in the main stream, but probably pretty well known to PA members given the soundtrack.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 21:01
Hi,
One look in my website and this list will probably double ...
One of my comments that a lot of folks at the Portland International Film Festival disliked was that I was always telling people to stop watching/going to the American/English/Spanish/French films (Portland was probably the Almodovar's first lover!) ... and go watch all the films from the other countries that no one would ever know, or EVER see again.
And, of course, I wrote a review on them, which did not make some folks happy, and the following year I was not one selected by their group to help put together program notes for some of these films ... because I was not interested in getting more Pedro Almodovar's stories for them ... I had to find these and translate them ... which gave me an edge in a lot of Spanish, Portuguese, French and some Italian films ... that I normally went through ... but by that time, I was more interested in expanding my tastes ... not closing them down, as the Film Festival was doing!
I have no "favorite" but at least one film review of mine has helped the film be shown in another Festival ... and I'm proud of that ... to me, the idea of helping expand the consciousness ... with new and valuable moments and works ... is the ultimate ... the film?
THE ISLAND ON BIRD STREET
Other special films for me: ( http://pedrosena.com/others.htm" rel="nofollow - http://pedrosena.com/others.htm )
32 Short Films About Glen Gould
Bitter Sugar
My 20th Century
Sunday's Children
The Double Life of Veronique
The Mysteries of Rampo
To Live
Yellow Earth
A Woman's Tale
Caravaggio
Jubilee
Marat/Sade
Orlando
Performance
Prospero's Books
Savage Messiah
Jean de Florette
Manon of the Spring
La Belle Noiseusse
Le Fantome de la Liberte
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Allegro Non Troppo
The Icicle Thief
Burnt By The Sun
El Maestro de Esgrima
Enough of a list for now ...
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 02 2019 at 21:16
Hi,
Some of these films, define me as a person ...
The Double Life of Veronique
A Woman's Tale
Marat/Sade
Performance
La Belle Noiseusse
Le Fantome de la Liberte
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Allegro Non Troppo
El Maestro de Esgrima
The Kieslowski film has one of the most amazing mixes of film and music, that to me was so big, and had already been touched by Vangelis, Maurice Jarre, and Bernard Herrman for me. The music made the film even more valuable and important, and was not just an add-on like the Hollywood variety of cheap factory movie!
A Woman's Tale, for one of the most incredible show of what acting is all about, and how someone looks at it ... the film is a mind burner!
Marat/Sade is probably the play I love the most and would most likely love to direct (and put the Trumps in the first row instead of the French Aristocracy!), and its political debates are what define me the most ... "I am the revolution! No you are not, you are another idiot that thinks you can change the world and will die for it!" (something like that!)
Performance, is for me, the ultimate best movie ever made. It defies description and no film has ever matched up its arts so well and so beautifully.
La Belle Noiseusse has the worst knock of all films I have ever seen ... it 4 hours long, but most people can not appreciate a complete painting being shown and done during that time ... to me, that is the ultimate in the human vision and desire to express it and show it ... but too many film folks thought it was stupid ... because art in their lives is not valuable at all!
le Fantome de la Liberte ... the title alone says it all, and it is by far one of the films that inspires me the most ... the hope that we can be free!
Aguirre, The Wrath of God ... Krautrock personified ... if folks that like what it became in music will ever learn to realize that improvisation is not just a music thing ... epic!
Allegro Non Troppo ... simply the best cartoon film of all ... a musical FANTASIA with different music, but not suited to American tastes ... it deserved a lot better!
El Maestro de Esgrima ... probably my favorite film of all next to BLADE RUNNER, and its content and filming and style is so far and above all the other films, specially those on Fencing ... very special and far out film that you will remember a long time!
Have fun!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 05:52
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
One look in my website and this list will probably double ...
One of my comments that a lot of folks at the Portland International Film Festival disliked was that I was always telling people to stop watching/going to the American/English/Spanish/French films (Portland was probably the Almodovar's first lover!) ... and go watch all the films from the other countries that no one would ever know, or EVER see again.
And, of course, I wrote a review on them, which did not make some folks happy, and the following year I was not one selected by their group to help put together program notes for some of these films ... because I was not interested in getting more Pedro Almodovar's stories for them ... I had to find these and translate them ... which gave me an edge in a lot of Spanish, Portuguese, French and some Italian films ... that I normally went through ... but by that time, I was more interested in expanding my tastes ... not closing them down, as the Film Festival was doing!
I have no "favorite" but at least one film review of mine has helped the film be shown in another Festival ... and I'm proud of that ... to me, the idea of helping expand the consciousness ... with new and valuable moments and works ... is the ultimate ... the film?
THE ISLAND ON BIRD STREET
Other special films for me: ( http://pedrosena.com/others.htm" rel="nofollow - http://pedrosena.com/others.htm )
32 Short Films About Glen Gould
Bitter Sugar
My 20th Century
Sunday's Children
The Double Life of Veronique
The Mysteries of Rampo
To Live
Yellow Earth
A Woman's Tale
Caravaggio
Jubilee
Marat/Sade
Orlando
Performance
Prospero's Books
Savage Messiah
Jean de Florette
Manon of the Spring
La Belle Noiseusse
Le Fantome de la Liberte
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Allegro Non Troppo
The Icicle Thief
Burnt By The Sun
El Maestro de Esgrima
Enough of a list for now ...
I know Aguirre (my favorite of Herzog is "Strosczek".. I used to have "The Double Life of Veronique" but I needed space. But I'll expedite this. Thank you!
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 10:27
since these movies are so unknown I will give some description:
"De Wisselwachter" ("The Pointsman") by Jos Stelling. surrealistic
movie with very little dialogue. a French speaking woman gets off a
train at the lonely post of a pointsman's post mistaking it for the
station she wants to go to. since the woman speaks only French which the
pointsman doesn't understand communication is difficult, especially
since both are quite taciturn in the first place. nevertheless the two
slowly develop a relationship that
leads to violence when the postman begins to be sexually interested in
the woman.
"Welt am Draht" ("World on a
Wire") by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. his only SF movie made for German TV
in two parts. in the present day (1973) the new supercomputer of the
"Institut für Kybernetik und Zukunftsforschung" ("Insitute for
Cybernetics and Future Science's) hosts a simulation
program that includes an artificial world with over 9,000 "identity
units" who live as human beings, unaware that their world is just a
simulation. Professor Vollmer, the technical director, claims to be on
the brink of great discovery and dies under cryptic circumstances. his
successor, Dr.
Fred Stiller, has some strange experiences like the mysterious
disappearance of security chief Günther Lause, of whom apparently no-one
but Stiller has any memory. this movie picks up the theme of "The
Matrix" but 25 years earlier and is much better told.
"Chinesisches
Roulette" ("Chinese Roulette") by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. creepy
family drama involving a plot revolving about a disabled twelve-year old
daughter, who walks on crutches, her family and
her mute governess. the daughter lures both parents and their lovers
into their summer cottage by making them believe they would have it for
themselves. the daughter suggests they should play a game of "Chinese Roulette", in which one team has to guess a person the other team has picked by asking questions. soon tensions arise that culminate in a violent act. this movie reminds me of Sartre's saying "l'enfer, c'est les autres" ("hell, that's the others").
"Viva
la Muerte" ("Long
Live Death") by Fernando Arrabal. highly surrealistic movie settled in
the Spanish civil war with lots of highly disturbing images that will
haunt you forever. Fando is a boy about ten years old. his father is a
communist, and his mother betrays him to the fascists. both his mother
and his aunt are highly religious. Fando has visions about what happens
to his father, and some of these visions are extremely disturbing, like
Fando making love to his aunt among hundreds of maggots or a fascist
soldier piercing the eyes of his father with a prong and eating them,
and those are some of the tamer visions; I won't describe the wilder
ones. you will definitely need a strong stomach to watch this movie!
"Malpertuis" by Harry Kümel. a great unknown horror movie based on the novel of the same name by Belgian author Jean Ray. Jan
(Mathieu Carrière), who is a young seaman, returns to land, and
while searching for his childhood home, is mysteriously abducted. he
awakens in an isolated old mansion called Malpertuis, where he find
himself among various relatives, including his sister Nancy (Susan
Hampshire; the love between them appears to be more than just
brotherly/sisterly), three strange sisters, one of them being Alice
(Susan Hampshire) who has the hot pants for him, the mysterious Euryale
(Susan Hampshire) who he has the hot pants for, a strange taxidermist, a
resident madman
called Lampernisse and lots of other creepy characters. the mansion
turns out to be a labyrinth of corridors, staircases, and secret chambers, belonging to his family.
his bedridden uncle Cassavius (Orson Welles) is about
to divide the estate to his heirs, but, as it turns out, only if they
commit themselves never to leave the premises. the atmosphere is surreal
and absolutely creepy. Orson Welles is great, but the real star is
Susan Hampshire. when Friede and I first watched the movie we did not
realize that Nancy, Alice and Euryale were played by the same woman. one
of the very best horror movies we ever saw.
"Les
lèvres rouge" ("Daughters of Darkness"; the literal translation of the
title would be "The Red Lips") by Harry Kümel. a recently married young
couple are on their honeymoon. they check into a grand hotel where they
encounter a
mysterious Hungarian countess and her female secretary. at the hotel,
the Countess quickly becomes
obsessed with the newlyweds and the resulting interaction of the four
people leads to sadism and murder.
"De vierde
man" ("The Fourth Man") by Paul Verhoeven. Gerard Reve, an alcoholic,
bisexual novelist, leaves Amsterdam to deliver a lecture at the
Vlissingen Literary Society. there, he becomes sexually involved with
its attractive treasurer, Christine Halsl*g. who, as he later finds out,
lost three husbands by tragic accidents, or were they? is Christine a
witch? the Virgin Mary
appears to him in visions to show that he is targeted as her fourth
victim. Mary says, "anyone given a warning must listen to it." he passes
on the warning to Herman,
Christine's other lover who Reve lusts for, but he ignores it, thinking
that Gerard is trying
to scare him off so that he can have Christine for himself.
"Phase
IV" by Saul Bass. due to an unknown cosmic event, listed in "phases",
ants have undergone rapid evolution and developed a hive mind.
two scientists begin investigating strange towers and geometrically
perfect designs that ants have built in the desert. except for one
family, the local human population flees the strangely acting ants. the
ants kill the family, only the sixteen-year old girl Kendra survives and
is taken in by the scientists. soon the question arises: are the
scientists studying the ants or are the ants studying the scientists?
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 10:42
MortSahlFan wrote:
La Tera Trema
you probably mean "La Terra Trema" ("The Earth is Shaking")
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 10:56
BaldJean wrote:
MortSahlFan wrote:
La Tera Trema
you probably mean "La Terra Trema" ("The Earth is Shaking")
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 11:02
It would be a pretty simple error to make. I make mistakes all the time here, and I worked for years as a copy-editor.
I've seen lots of films listed by people here, and I know we have a number of fans of various films that have been mentioned. I am pleased to see The Bothersome Man mentioned, that is one of my favourite films that I've mentioned many times in the forum. I know and love almost every film in Tapfret's list and I love many others that have been mentioned. Especially in the 90s to early 200s, I explored a huge amount of film (some of my favourite directors are Jeunet, Kieslowski, von Trier, Gilliam, Kubrick, Zhang Yimou, von Trier, David Cronenberg, Peter Greenaway, Wenders, Herzog, Juzo Itami, Shohei Imamura... Coen Bros, which are all pretty big to huge names).
I love too many lesser-known films to mention (and have made many film lists during my time at PA): I expect some of you do know this, but O Lucky Man is one of my particular favourites. It is available on youtube (I first saw it on TV):
I feel like mentioning In the Mood for Love and Oliver Olivier, too, but I could literally list thousands of lesser-known ones.
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 11:39
This thread title brought Patrice Leconte to my mind....I remember enjoying "The Hairdresser's Husband"
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 11:44
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 12:01
Tapfret wrote:
^I have a friend who collects every possible release, movie poster, etc for Profundo Rosso. I suspect its not known in the main stream, but probably pretty well known to PA members given the soundtrack.
sorry for being nit-picky, but it is "Profondo Rosso" ("Deep Red", a horror thriller by Dario Argento). io adoro la lingua italiana, quindi ho dovuto intervenire
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 12:07
MortSahlFan wrote:
...
I know Aguirre (my favorite of Herzog is "Strosczek".. I used to have "The Double Life of Veronique" but I needed space. But I'll expedite this. Thank you!
Many of the films listed were scrapped from the floors of many video stores that are no more ... one of them here in Vancouver had a lot of foreign films, and I think I was the only one that probably watched everything they had, and was familiar with a lot of the stuff.
I think that many of these films can be picked up on Amazon cheap ... but many of the others are considered "art house" stuff and they are spendy ... which means no one will ever seen them again!
The ISLAND ON BIRD STREET, was listed in Portland, on the Film Festival as a film for youngsters, which was absolutely HORRIBLE and totally distasteful and it tells you that anyone who wrote that and listed the film there, never even saw it or was aware of its content. It has elements that make for a kid's story, but it is hardly that ... it is a story that goes under a fence that separated East and West and there were a lot of political things in it ... the kid is Jewish and he hides in a destroyed bunch of buildings and the food he finds? He has a little white mouse that chases food ... and that's what he eats mostly ... towards the later part of the film he meets a girl on the other side ... etc. etc ... and that gives him a reason to cross under the fence and all that ... and go around the guards ... in the destroyed building, the kid knows all the hiding places!
It is one of those films that just crushes your heart, and you want to much to help the kid ... but can't!
And its filming was incredible ... sensitive, quiet, slow when it needed to be (guards are coming around and watching everything) ... and so on ... a magnificent directing job ... and you know what? 19 people in the audience for its only showing in Portland ... and the Film Festival did not publish my review in time to help! In those days they were more concerned with kissing Almodovar!
Fassbinder ... is important in many ways, but I have only seen one of his films, although I had for a long time, a book that had 3 other scripts and I read them ... but I could never find the films, and nowadays, I have a hard time finding them ... and Netflix is ... I'm getting fed up with it! The Medici's was nice ... but the best films ever made? Forget it! Hopefully I can find more Fassbinder and watch it and review it ... he is on the early side of the experimentalists, and was also known to use a lot of ad-lib'ing ... so his whole filming style was not exactly unknown.
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: August 03 2019 at 16:27
I thought of a German movie made around 2004, called "The Edukators", pretty cool movie.
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 02:04
I will give some of mine and, like Jean, will add a description:
"博士の愛した数式" ("The Professor's Beloved Equation") by Takashi Koizumi. The story centers around a mathematician,
"the Professor," who suffered brain damage in a traffic accident in
1975 and since then can produce only 80 minutes' worth of memories, and
his interactions with the housekeeper and her son "Root" as
the Professor shares the beauty of equations with them. The equation in the title is this one:
"Messer im Kopf" ("Knife in the Head") by Volker Hauff. One night when seeking his estranged wife, Hoffmann goes to the youth
center where she works. The police are there rounding up radicals who
frequent the center - Hoffmann runs into the building and ends up being
shot in the head. He awakens with brain trauma, partially paralyzed and
unable to speak. The police accuse him of stabbing an officer; the
radicals herald him as an innocent victim of police brutality. During
his slow recovery at the hospital, Hoffmann must piece together his life
and struggle to remember the events of that night.
"Schwarz
und Weiß wie Tage und Nächte" ("Black and White as Days and Nights") by
Wolfgang Petersen. A scientist who swore off playing chess after a
nervous breakdown as a
boy wunderkind, creates an undefeated chess program. But the Russian
world champ beats Tommy Rosemund's masterwork in a televised match. So
the West German mathematician becomes a top chess pro himself, which the
West German media boast will prove the superiority of Germany and
democracy. The jowly, white-faced Rosemund believes that the entire Red
Communist bloc is out to stop him from vanquishing their atheist pretty
boy, Stefan Koruga, to become the next Bobby Fischer and a symbol that
capitalism is preferable to socialism. This movie has one of my
favourite quotes in it (I will only give the English translation).
Rosemund to his wife: "Please write a letter for me".
Wife: "What shall I write"?
Rosemund:
"Dear Sir! I invite you to a game of chess. I will give you the
advantage of a pawn and two moves, and I will beat you nevertheless".
Wife: "And who shall I send this letter to"?
Rosemund: "To God".
This is actually attributed to Wilhelm Steinitz, the first World Chess Champion who became mentally ill in his latter years.
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: August 04 2019 at 09:12
"Next Stop, Greenwich Village" is a great movie. 10/10.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 06 2019 at 09:36
BaldJean wrote:
...
Rainer Werner Fassbinder ...
I think the only film of his I remember having seen was "Ali, Fear Eats the Soul" ... and I don't remember a lot of it, except that it was slow, and probably was mostly ad-lib. I have to see it again to get a better feel for it ...
BaldJean wrote:
...
"Les
lèvres rouge" ("Daughters of Darkness"; the literal translation of the
title would be "The Red Lips") by Harry Kümel.
...
When I saw this, I thought it was fantastic ... and really out there. I would like to see this film again, as i saw this in downtown LA, where there used to be a theater, that only played odd ball films out of Europe and this was one of those films. Also saw, there, things like "Goodbye Gemini" which had Jane Asher in it, and then "Girl In a Motorcycle" that had Marianne Faithfull in it ... and a couple of other films including, I think, one of Christopher Lee's films based on a Dennis Wheatley novel ... "To The Devil A Daughter" which also had Nastassja Kinki in it. However, I do not remember a whole lot about the film and its story at all ... I have the book and probably should read it for a change!
Some of these films I need to find a way to get them and watch them again! They are worthy of a review and being listed!
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 06 2019 at 10:11
Two science fictions films I recently saw that I don't believe had much attention when they came out:
Moon (2009)
Europa Report (2013)
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Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: August 08 2019 at 15:41
moshkito wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
...
Rainer Werner Fassbinder ...
I think the only film of his I remember having seen was "Ali, Fear Eats the Soul" ... and I don't remember a lot of it, except that it was slow, and probably was mostly ad-lib. I have to see it again to get a better feel for it ...
BaldJean wrote:
...
"Les
lèvres rouge" ("Daughters of Darkness"; the literal translation of the
title would be "The Red Lips") by Harry Kümel.
...
When I saw this, I thought it was fantastic ... and really out there. I would like to see this film again, as i saw this in downtown LA, where there used to be a theater, that only played odd ball films out of Europe and this was one of those films. Also saw, there, things like "Goodbye Gemini" which had Jane Asher in it, and then "Girl In a Motorcycle" that had Marianne Faithfull in it ... and a couple of other films including, I think, one of Christopher Lee's films based on a Dennis Wheatley novel ... "To The Devil A Daughter" which also had Nastassja Kinki in it. However, I do not remember a whole lot about the film and its story at all ... I have the book and probably should read it for a change!
Some of these films I need to find a way to get them and watch them again! They are worthy of a review and being listed!
Many (even some of his fans) don't seem to have seen "Whity"
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: August 08 2019 at 16:55
I doubt many have seen LUCIFER RISING. Still quite the cult film. Only 28 minutes long but well worth it. Very surreal. Not really a movie per se but a visual feast with trippy music. Came out in 1972.
Interesting that we can't post videos if there are two equal signs but here's the link
Posted By: Odvin Draoi
Date Posted: August 08 2019 at 17:24
Mio Min Mio (Mio in the Land of Faraway) - For kids and adolescents mainly, yet still watchable for an adult. Christian Bale's littlehood, Christopher Lee as the villain (as usual).
Pretty good movie, the most interesting aspect of the film might be its country of origin, or rather, countries of origin: Sweden - Soviet Union - Norway. As you might expect, quite different from a Hollywood film. I really advise it, even if you're in the later phases of adulthood.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 09 2019 at 12:07
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I doubt many have seen LUCIFER RISING. Still quite the cult film. Only 28 minutes long but well worth it. Very surreal. Not really a movie per se but a visual feast with trippy music. Came out in 1972.
Interesting that we can't post videos if there are two equal signs but here's the link
Kenneth Anger's film was well known, but the title sent a lot of folks away and most places were afraid of playing it ... nowadays, with its ability to be bought online and what not, this is not as much of a problem ...
Did you notice, btw, the cast in this thing? Kinda insane, and I have to admit I'm on the lookout to see/get this film now, as I do not remember a whole lot about it!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 10 2019 at 05:10
This is very unknown too and even accompanied by Prog: "Delired Chameleon Family" by Clearlight is the soundtrack to "Visa de Censure No. X", an experimental short movie by Pierre Clémenti:
"Lucifer Rising" is in my opinion actually slightly (very slightly) reminiscent of this movie.