Whats Your Unconventional Favorite Album
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Topic: Whats Your Unconventional Favorite Album
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: Whats Your Unconventional Favorite Album
Date Posted: June 17 2019 at 20:43
What I mean by this is, whats your unconventional favorite album from a given artist that generally may not be regarded to as their best or maybe low-mid tier. For example you may say Drama is your favorite yes album.
So ill start, I know its one of their highest rated, but people rarely say its their favorite from the band:
Rajaz by Camel
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 17 2019 at 21:22
From Pink Floyd one of my favourites (though not my very favourite) is The Division Bell. From Gentle Giant, my two favourites are the debut and Acquiring the Taste, from Rick Wakeman my very favourite is the Arthur one (not sure how unconventional it is supposed to be, it should be considered among his best, I guess, but many people seem to dismiss it, or even frown upon it), also, among my favourites from him is Out There. From Steven Wilson / Porcupine Tree my favourites are Coma Divine and The Raven that refused to sing (yeah, I know, both of them are rather loved, but I don't think many rate them over the more conventional Porcupine Tree studio albums). And from Nightwish my very favourite is Imaginaerum.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 02:40
ELO - Time
Residents - Mark of the Mole Magma - Kobaïa (maybe not unconventional enough)
Miles Davis - Big Fun
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 07:47
That's a really good question, because it depends on the concept most people have of a certain band - which is not always easy to tell.
I might start with Pink Floyd's The Wall. The main reason: it is more of a Roger Waters than a Pink Floyd project, and as such it doesn't really fit into the "classic" conception of Pink Floyd based on more collective and proggy albums like Atom Heart Mother, Meddle, Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here (on the other hand there is also the early pychedelic stuff which is a different story). Nevertheless I think The Wall is a really good album with some of their best songs (f.e. "Comfortably Numb"). From the point of view of more traditional rock music the music is probably more conventional that their previous work, whereas from a Pink Floyd point of view it is unconventional.
I would however not regard it as one of their best albums overall. Despite some of the great songs, not all tracks are equally strong ("The Show Must Go On" is a mediocre filler for instance), and it is clearly not one of their most cohesive works.
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 08:11
Kind of a tricky question. By most peoples standards King Crimson or Zappa would be considered unconventional, but here they are mainstream ( Like the Beatles or Stones) I guess it depends on your definition of unconventional is.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 08:23
Genesis - and then there were three ELP-first album Porcupine Tree- Lightbulb Sun (most say either Deadwing or In Absentia) Pink Floyd- Atom Heart Mother The Moody Blues- long distance voyager(not sure it's my very favorite but I like it better than EGBDF and SS)
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Posted By: LakeGlade12
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 08:39
King Crimson-Lizard Alcest-Les Voyages De L'Âme Anathama-Distant Satelites (joint favourite with We're Here Because We're Here) Devin Townsend-Deconstruction (although the new album Empath is giving it a run for its money)
I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. I seem to usually prefer the highest rated or one of the higher rated albums from most artists. I will edit my list if I think of anything else...
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 12:07
King Crimson - Thrak Unliked by many, but it's one of my favorites from them. 10cc - 10cc The Residents - Coochie Brake A Perfect Circle - emotive Frank Zappa - Civilization Phase III Art Zoyd - Nosferatu Ambrosia - Ambrosia Asia - Alpha ELP - both Works volumes Pink Floyd - Ummagumma
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 12:54
ELP - Either their first album or Trilogy. Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery just don't do it for me. Pink Floyd - Not my favorite, but I think The Final Cut is a fabulous album. Spock's Beard - X
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 13:01
ELO - Time. Frank Zappa - Jazz From Hell Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are Asia - Asia
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 13:40
Asia - XXX (by a long shot... superb album with nary a single weak cut. The pinnacle of what they did) Al DiMeola - Splendido Hotel
Outside prog/artists generally discussed on this site: Blackfoot - Flyin' High Flotsam and Jetsam - Cuatro Dan Fogelberg - Nether Lands The Kinks - Are the Village Green Preservation Society Led Zeppelin - III Steve Morse - High Tension Wires Within Temptation - The Unforgiving
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 13:55
my favorite Eloy albums by far are "Inside" and "Floating"
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 15:48
Golden Earring -Moontan. 5 song Euro version. Perfect,though it is considered their best.
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Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 16:50
Van Der Graaf Generator - H to the He Dream Theater - AwakeSymphony X - Paradise Lost Harmonium - L-Heptade Klaus Schulze - X Brian Eno - Before and After Science East of Eden - Mercator Projected
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 17:03
^ so Dream Theater's Awake has become the uncool album to listen to?! It's always been my favorite from them.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 18:01
tempest_77 wrote:
ELP - Either their first album or Trilogy. Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery just don't do it for me.Pink Floyd - Not my favorite, but I think The Final Cut is a fabulous album. Spock's Beard - X
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I think X Is a fantastic album, especially love from the darkness
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 18:52
X is considered to be one of their best post Neal albums actually.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 19:29
Hawkwind – their mid-'80s albums Chronicle of the Black Sword and The Xenon Codex. For most, it seems, they're not "essential" Hawkwind. For me, they most definitely ARE.
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Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 20:44
Cristi wrote:
^ so Dream Theater's Awake has become the uncool album to listen to?! It's always been my favorite from them. |
Haha well when you put it that way it sounds dumb. Again, it's just which is the absolute favorite, whereas the majority of people would pick Metropolis Pt 2 or Images and Words (love those too). My tastes are usually much more predictable, like my favorite Yes album is CTTE and favorite Rush is Moving Pictures etc.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 23:14
There are number of albums that others have mentioned that are my favourite or amongst my very favourite albums by the artist/ band.
One that hasn't been mentioned is Caution Radiation Area by Area. At ProgArchives and rateyourmusic it has the lowest average rating of the first four Area albums. Arbeit macht frei is the most popular Area album at both sites (I think that's an excellent album, but CRA remains my favourite).
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 00:04
Well with ELP you can't pick any of their first six albums as 'unconventional' favourite choices I believe. However Works is another story so TCat is on the money with those. Even many ELP fans didn't like those albums and it was a major reason for the band going downhill in popularity so quickly (that and the massively expensive orchestral tour plus punk was a perfect storm)
For me probably Kansas - Somewhere To Elsewhere is the obvious one.
King Crimson is an 'almost' as Power To Believe is my second favourite but its still a long way behind the mighty Red.
Genesis have made so many great albums but a lot of people write them off after Wind and Wuthering. However And Then There Were Three is one of my favourites by them although it still only gets 3rd spot after Trick and Foxtrot.
Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons . I love the title track (my favourite prog metal track) and the tribute medley stuff hits the spot nicely! According to this site though it was 'fan club/promo' release which surprises me. Can I count it??!
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 00:24
I can also add: Rush - Test For Echo Black Sabbath - Born Again (as long as it is the remastered version)
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 01:31
dougmcauliffe wrote:
What I mean by this is, whats your unconventional favorite album from a given artist that generally may not be regarded to as their best or maybe low-mid tier. For example you may say Drama is your favorite yes album.
So ill start, I know its one of their highest rated, but people rarely say its their favorite from the band:
Rajaz by Camel |
Rajaz is the only Camel album that can be compared to the first four. By coincidence I've listened to it this morning.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 01:32
I love 90125
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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 04:18
Dream Theater´s "When Dream and Day Unite", is not only my favourite DT album, but one of my overall favourite prog albums
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 04:24
King Manuel wrote:
Dream Theater´s "When Dream and Day Unite", is not only my favourite DT album, but one of my overall favourite prog albums
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nice!
I love 80s Rush, especially Signals and Power Windows.
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 04:30
Camel "Harbour of Tears" Gentle Giant "Three Friends"
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 04:34
Progosopher wrote:
I can also add: Rush - Test For Echo Black Sabbath - Born Again (as long as it is the remastered version) |
I like Test for Echo as well. as for Born Again, it's my least favorite BS album, I rarely listen to it. I enjoy the Iommi & Hughes collaboration on Seventh Star as well as their later albums.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 05:11
BaldJean wrote:
my favorite Eloy albums by far are "Inside" and "Floating"
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 05:11
These would be among my favourites by these artists, and are not generally considered to be among their best works.
And then there were three - Genesis 90125 - Yes Trilogy - ELP PXR5 - Hawkwind Still Life - VDGG Caress of Steel - Rush
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 05:28
Maybe not my absolute favourites, but close enough:
King Crimson - Earthbound Pink Floyd - More Led Zeppelin - Presence The Doors - The Soft Parade Genesis - Trespass Camel - Stationary Traveller
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 06:41
I don't know how unconventional some of these are: Camel - Rain Dances Genesis - Nursery Cryme King Crimson - Lizard Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother Porcupine Tree - Up the Downstair Spock's Beard - The Light Tangerine Dream - Tangram Yes - The Yes Album
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 06:55
Vompatti wrote:
Maybe not my absolute favourites, but close enough:
King Crimson - Earthbound Pink Floyd - More Led Zeppelin - Presence The Doors - The Soft Parade Genesis - Trespass Camel - Stationary Traveller |
Good choice of Zepp album. I could happily add that to my list.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 07:02
octopus-4 wrote:
dougmcauliffe wrote:
What I mean by this is, whats your unconventional favorite album from a given artist that generally may not be regarded to as their best or maybe low-mid tier. For example you may say Drama is your favorite yes album.
So ill start, I know its one of their highest rated, but people rarely say its their favorite from the band:
Rajaz by Camel |
Rajaz is the only Camel album that can be compared to the first four. By coincidence I've listened to it this morning. |
I love the desert vibe to it, Its about on par with Moonmadness for me. I think a nod and a wink is also quite good. Haven’t listened to the other 90s albums from them.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 07:39
Jethro Tull's Stand Up is one of my favorite albums.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 08:30
Saperlipopette! wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
my favorite Eloy albums by far are "Inside" and "Floating"
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The heavy accent loathing syndrome?
An insignificant detail afaic.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 08:49
Blacksword wrote:
These would be among my favourites by these artists, and are not generally considered to be among their best works.
And then there were three - Genesis 90125 - Yes Trilogy - ELP PXR5 - Hawkwind Still Life - VDGG Caress of Steel - Rush
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I would argue that Trilogy is ELPs best, or at least it's level with BSS.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 09:06
Not necessarily my favourites by these artists, but I rank these highly in their catalogs:
Alquin - Best Kept Secret King Crimson - Islands Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy Marillion - Holidays in Eden
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 09:11
Jethro Tull "Stand Up" Nektar "Recycled" Deep Purple "Come and Taste the Band" King Crimson "Lizard" YES "Tales From Topographic Oceans" There are a lot more, but these five are probably the most prominent.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 09:12
An accent is usually no problem at all for me - its the nasality of his singing voice. Vocals that irritate me quite often gets in the way of my enjoyment.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 09:12
Frank Bornemann's heavy German accent is certainly annoying, but fortunately that's the only annoying thing about Eloy
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 09:17
Aways a good listen..
Mahavishnu - Apocalypse Strawbs - Nomadness Tull - Under Wraps Pink Floyd - AMLoR Fish - Suits Roy Harper - Come Out Fighting Ghengis Smith Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream Banco - Garafano Rosso Peter Hammill - Nadir's Big Chance Eloy - Visionary Planxty - Cold Blow and the Rainy Night
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 09:20
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 09:49
Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka Pestilence - Spheres
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 10:18
BaldJean wrote:
Frank Bornemann's heavy German accent is certainly annoying, but fortunately that's the only annoying thing about Eloy
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His accent has never bothered me...takes a lot more than that to annoy me.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 10:28
Barbu wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Frank Bornemann's heavy German accent is certainly annoying, but fortunately that's the only annoying thing about Eloy
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His accent has never bothered me...takes a lot more than that to annoy me. |
it is annoying to me because I worked so hard to get rid of my American accent when speaking German. I almost got rid of it completely. but now my American relatives claim I have acquired a German accent when speaking English
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 10:39
I'll try to stick with more "well-known" acts. Some of these might be debatable as "unconventional," but they are generally not ranked as high as other albums in their respective discographies.
David Bowie -- Scary Monsters Scott Walker -- Bish Bosch Vangelis -- Albedo 0.39 Triumvirat -- Old Loves Die Hard The Tangent -- Not as Good as the Book Talking Heads -- Fear of Music Spock's Beard -- The Kindness of Strangers Saga -- Generation 13 Porcupine Tree -- Up the Downstair Pink Floyd -- Ummagumma Le Orme -- Elementi The Moody Blues -- On the Threshold of a Dream Magenta -- Revolutions Little Atlas -- Surface Serene Led Zeppelin -- Presence IZZ -- Everlasting Instant Steve Howe -- Turbulence Hawkwind -- Levitation Glass Hammer -- Shadowlands David Gilmour -- About Face The Flower Kings -- Flower Power Fish -- Yin Eloy -- Chronicles I Electric Light Orchestra -- On the Third Day Dream Theater -- Systematic Chaos Citizen Cain -- Raising the Stones Atoll -- Tertio Arena -- Pride
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 10:42
King Manuel wrote:
Dream Theater´s "When Dream and Day Unite", is not only my favourite DT album, but one of my overall favourite prog albums |
Same here. In the 90s, it was all about Images & Words and Awake, but now I prefer the more focused sound of WDaDU. Best vocals on a DT album, too (sorry, fans of James).
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 10:46
BaldJean wrote:
Barbu wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Frank Bornemann's heavy German accent is certainly annoying, but fortunately that's the only annoying thing about Eloy
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His accent has never bothered me...takes a lot more than that to annoy me. |
it is annoying to me because I worked so hard to get rid of my American accent when speaking German. I almost got rid of it completely. but now my American relatives claim I have acquired a German accent when speaking English
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Posted By: Erenan
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 10:47
someone_else wrote:
Not necessarily my favourites by these artists, but I rank these highly in their catalogs:
Alquin - Best Kept Secret King Crimson - Islands Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy Marillion - Holidays in Eden |
I definitely agree on Islands. For me this is the clear winner for unconventional pick from KC.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 11:05
It must be said:
I prefer Danger Money.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 11:11
verslibre wrote:
It must be said:
I prefer Danger Money. |
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 12:12
someone_else wrote:
Not necessarily my favourites by these artists, but I rank these highly in their catalogs:
Alquin - Best Kept Secret King Crimson - Islands Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy Marillion - Holidays in Eden |
Oh yeah, Holidays in Eden - I love it ! Houses of the Holy, too!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 12:15
verslibre wrote:
King Manuel wrote:
Dream Theater´s "When Dream and Day Unite", is not only my favourite DT album, but one of my overall favourite prog albums |
Same here. In the 90s, it was all about Images & Words and Awake, but now I prefer the more focused sound of WDaDU. Best vocals on a DT album, too (sorry, fans of James). |
the Moore era is the best one if you ask me, there, i said it!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 12:23
^It goes without saying!
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 14:39
Saperlipopette! wrote:
An accent is usually no problem at all for me - its the nasality of his singing voice. Vocals that irritate me quite often gets in the way of my enjoyment.
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This is why I live in a BobDylan/NeilYoung/TomPetty/WillieNelson-free zone.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 15:18
Fischman wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
An accent is usually no problem at all for me - its the nasality of his singing voice. Vocals that irritate me quite often gets in the way of my enjoyment.
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This is why I live in a BobDylan/NeilYoung/TomPetty/WillieNelson-free zone. |
It's understandable.
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Posted By: MoebiusStreet
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 15:29
I'll actually say it, Drama is my favorite from Yes. Also:
Rush - Signals Spock's Beard - either of the Ted Leonard records Led Zeppelin - In Through the Out Door
above, progaardvark listed Saga's Generation 13.
I want this to be a favorite, but I just can't. I like the concept, and
love the instrumentals, but find the vocals incredibly grating.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 16:13
MoebiusStreet wrote:
Led Zeppelin - In Through the Out Door |
it certainly has its moments but still
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 16:28
Can - Soon Over Babaluma Renaissance - Camera Camera (if I don't count the Carnegie Hall live album) I'm with Logan about Caution Radiation Area.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 16:42
I love the not-as-"popular" late '70s-early '80s Santana records Marathon, Zebop! and Shango. I played the hell out of those for countless hours when I first got them on CD.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 20 2019 at 00:31
chopper wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
These would be among my favourites by these artists, and are not generally considered to be among their best works.
And then there were three - Genesis 90125 - Yes Trilogy - ELP PXR5 - Hawkwind Still Life - VDGG Caress of Steel - Rush
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I would argue that Trilogy is ELPs best, or at least it's level with BSS. |
The first 4 ELP studio albums are all great (obviously I'm a fan!) . The only 'wildcard' entry in their first 6 albums is Pictures At An Exhibition. It was originally only released in the USA and the band originally were thinking of only putting it out in Europe as a bonus live album to be packaged with Tarkus. It's rating on PA is a bit below those other albums but it certainly stands out from the crowd.
Generally fans of symphonic prog but not ELP specifically prefer the debut or Tarkus. ELP fans and also those that like a lot of electronics in their prog go for BSS. Trilogy seems to sit somewhere else to my ears. The way I see it Trilogy is weighted more to lyrics and they damped down the sci-fi approach . Greg Lake admitted that he was never totally onboard with Tarkus ('' You can record that on a solo album'' was his response to Emerson when he first heard it!) so I guess for the sake of keeping the band together , Emerson had to relax a little bit of artistic control and that enabled a more 'integrated' vision to emerge. It's certainly an excellent and well regarded album and definitely one of their best but in terms of live performing it caused some issues ( The title track was dumped from the tour that ensued very quickly and Abaddons Bolero was nearly impossible although they tried doing it with Lake playing an extra set of keyboards!). After Trilogy and importantly the formation of their record company Manticore, they returned to the more expansive symphonic prog style for BSS that went down so well in the live arena. This was also what the fans really wanted.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 05:04
I hypothesize these albums appeal to my female ears and perhaps that's why I like them more than most men folk.
Works- ELP - I listen to Works more than any ELP album. Hallowed be Thy Name is one of my favorite songs ever. Big Generator- Yes - Flawless album to my ears. Every song is special. Several of my women friends love this album. Islands- King Crimson - The soaring, melancholy beauty appeals to me. A Momentary Lapse of Reason- Pink Floyd - My #4 favorite PF album. A Dramatic Turn of Events- Dream Theater - Fascinating secret concept album, chronicling a multi-decade breakup between Portnoy and the band. Raw emotions laid bare, riddle the album. Cuts to the bone and the last nerve.
Minstrel in the Gallery- Jethro Tull - recorded in the aftermath of Ian's divorce, the beauty is breathtaking. The string quartet and Barres electric guitar are to die for! Baker St Muse is my favorite Tull song.
Space Oddity- David Bowie - Songs like "Cygnet Committee" and "Unwashed and Somewhat Slightly Dazed" lay bare the genius of a sexy young Bowie catching fire. Lyrically genius album. Wakeman's mellotron and harpsichord shine. 13- Black Sabbath- Listen to 13 all the time! The bonus disc is as necessary as the main album. 13 is a masterpiece in my world. "It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous"- Hawkwind - Tied with "Electric Teepee", another early 90's album, for my #1 Hawkwind album.
Hmmm. Breakups seem to be a common theme to almost half the above albums. Minstrel, Momentary Lapse of Reason, and Dramatic Turn of Events mark the post breakups of Ian Anderson's marriage, and band breakups for Gilmore and Dream Theater. Maybe that's what attracts me so?
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 07:03
If we make it "which not totally conventional albums are among our favourites of a band", we can have a very long thread...
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 08:44
I find Nightcap by Jethro Tull good good good:
It is the (prog) rockier version of Jethro Tull (the one I like most ), full of ideas; and the flute sounds somehow different at times, and I believe there are other instruments as well.
And this one live by ELP: Welcome back my Friends to the show that never ends (~ ladies and gentlemen):
I believe it sounds great (maybe for a live album) and have (IMO) excellent renditions of Brain salad songs… Jerusalem (superb), Toccata, Karn Evil 9... on the other hand, a fun, crazy, fast-paced Hoedown, Take a Pebble, Piano improvisations (love this), etc.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 09:12
Machinemessiah wrote:
I find Nightcap by Jethro Tull good good good:
It is the (prog) rockier version of Jethro Tull (the one I like most ), full of ideas; and the flute sounds somehow different at times, and I believe there are other instruments as well.
And this one live by ELP: Welcome back my Friends to the show that never ends (~ ladies and gentlemen):
I believe it sounds great (maybe for a live album) and have (IMO) excellent renditions of Brain salad songs… Jerusalem (superb), Toccata, Karn Evil 9... on the other hand, a fun, crazy, fast-paced Hoedown, Take a Pebble, Piano improvisations (love this), etc. |
your nick gives me the impression that "Drama" by Yes is another one you might name
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 09:13
Machinemessiah wrote:
It is the (prog) rockier version of Jethro Tull (the one I like most ), full of ideas; and the flute sounds somehow different at times, and I believe there are other instruments as well. |
The Chateau, man...freaking awesome!
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 09:44
BaldJean wrote:
Machinemessiah wrote:
I find Nightcap by Jethro Tull good good good:…
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your nick gives me the impression that "Drama" by Yes is another one you might name
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Ha ha ha you got me!
I changed my avatar now so that it doesn't confuse with the albums on the post...
Well certainly I find Machine Messiah a heavy, progressive and unique song (big fan of Howe and Yes), and I also like White Car very much though short as it is! I listen to Drama often and I'm fond of it… (I bought it in the US while on holydays with my dads… around '95 I think…) but still I find it too much 80's... and not Jon Anderson... In my scale not as good/unconventional as the ones I posted, as an album, but yeah.
In that sense, this is another unconventional I like:
I think I bought it on the same trip…
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 11:05
Jethro Tull - A Passion Play
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 11:27
Another one I remembered by Jethro; pleasant, mainly acoustic, live and fun:
A Little light music
Sometimes these were presents back then… (this from my Dad) perhaps not the ones one'd choose but… unconventional, and sometimes, good!
I remember having fun learning some passages on guitar of this take of Bourée.
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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 11:33
Broadway the Hard way !
Orchestal Favorites
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Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 12:56
Yes, Fly From Here. Not at the level of Close to the Edge, Relayer, or Yessongs, but in the same league as Fragile, Drama, and The Yes Album. I assume this view is unconventional...
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 13:00
verslibre wrote:
I love the not-as-"popular" late '70s-early '80s Santana records Marathon, Zebop! and Shango. I played the hell out of those for countless hours when I first got them on CD. |
Hey, Zebop! is a fantastic album. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. While I still cite Abraxas as my fave, I'd bet Zebop! gets at least equal air time in my home/car.
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Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 13:09
Machinemessiah wrote:
In that sense, this is another unconventional I like: |
Excellent debut, and as good as Time and a Word, imho.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 13:42
tempest_77 wrote:
Jethro Tull - A Passion Play |
By far my favorite Tull. I thought about mentioning this one, but really, its not unconventional. Its got a 4+ star rating here. What it is, is divisive. The people who hate it, REALLY ING HATE IT.
The one that really stands out is maybe not my favorite, but right up there in the top 3, is Black Sabbath - Never Say Die. Air Dance to me is their most proggy song.
Others:
Pain of Salvation - Road Salt One is my 2nd favorite of their albums right behind Be, which I suppose is unconventional in itself.
Opeth - Watershed is easily my favorite of the death era albums. And I absolutely love Heritage as well.
Metallica - RtL and MoP will always be their best best and most important. But I find St. Anger the only enjoyable one of the remainder of their studio discography.
The Residents - In general, I love the part of their discography that people tend to hate. The synthy storyteller late 80's - early 90's. Particularly God in 3 Persons and Freak Show.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 16:05
Renaissance's Novella has always been my favorite by them.
It took me quite a long time to get into both VDGG/Hammill and Gentle Giant, and my favorite albums by each artist is not their most highly acclaimed: H to He, Who Am The Only One and Free Hand, respectively.
My favorite Klaus Schulze album is 2007's Kontinuum.
I've always loved Focus' Mother Focus.
I find Roye Albrighton's six "Nektar" albums of the 21st Century quite satisfying.
John McLaughlin's Belo Horizonte is another secret favorite of mine.
I've always enjoyed Chick Corea's The Mad Hatter and RTF's MusicMagic as much as anything else they've done.
I would rather listen to almost any of the solo albums that Robert Wyatt has done in the last 23 years than Rock Bottom.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 18:58
The Shaggs!!!!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 19:02
Fischman wrote:
verslibre wrote:
I love the not-as-"popular" late '70s-early '80s Santana records Marathon, Zebop! and Shango. I played the hell out of those for countless hours when I first got them on CD. |
Hey, Zebop! is a fantastic album. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. While I still cite Abraxas as my fave, I'd bet Zebop! gets at least equal air time in my home/car. |
They can tell us...they'll just be "wronger than wrong."
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 21 2019 at 19:05
BrufordFreak wrote:
Renaissance's Novella has always been my favorite by them. |
YES!! Same here...ever since I first heard it.
BrufordFreak wrote:
My favorite Klaus Schulze album is 2007's Kontinuum. |
If you've not already, check out Shadowlands. Wonderful.
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 03:24
patrickq wrote:
Yes, Fly From Here. Not at the level of Close to the Edge, Relayer, or Yessongs, but in the same league as Fragile, Drama, and The Yes Album. I assume this view is unconventional... |
In honor of your heart felt post, I'm breaking out my copy this weekend. Perhaps the 2nd time around will be the charm?
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Posted By: Foxprog
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 03:37
King Crimson - Island, classical album disliked by any. Melancholic theme with breathtaking compositions is utterly beautiful. Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother, not a single bad song on it in my opinion. + the live perfomance of Alan's psychedelic breafast is crazy (eating cereals and cooking steaks). Genesis - We can't dance, yup I also like the pop era a bit. Kingston Wall - III, many people think that this is the worst album from them. I strongly disagee, The Real Thing is as epic as neo-prog can get. VDGG - The Aerosol Grey Machine - Into a game! Mike Oldfield - Incantations - BIG album with four pieces. Love every single minute of it.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 07:29
I like certain Yes albums that most seem to not care for (and sometimes even hate)such as Tormato, Big Generator and Union. Union is my least favorite of those but even with that one there's nothing really bad on it imo. People's criticism of it usually seems to be more about the way it was made than the actual music itself.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 14:56
patrickq wrote:
Yes, Fly From Here. Not at the level of Close to the Edge, Relayer, or Yessongs, but in the same league as Fragile, Drama, and The Yes Album. I assume this view is unconventional... |
It's not "in the same league as Drama," my friend...not even close.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 15:29
Oh boy. Yeah ... there are a number of unconventional ones that I listen to on occasion - sometimes out of nostalgia that few would relate to (Barnabas - Approaching Light Speed and its sequel) or to get a good laugh (Primus - Tales from the Punchbowl) or when I want something less edgy, with thoughtful lyrics, and with good production (Rush's Hold Your Fire), or when I want to hear sheer madness (Pink Floyd's Piper at the Gates of Dawn).
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 17:25
Jaketejas wrote:
Oh boy. Yeah ... there are a number of unconventional ones that I listen to on occasion - sometimes out of nostalgia that few would relate to (Barnabas - Approaching Light Speed and its sequel) or to get a good laugh (Primus - Tales from the Punchbowl) or when I want something less edgy, with thoughtful lyrics, and with good production (Rush's Hold Your Fire), or when I want to hear sheer madness (Pink Floyd's Piper at the Gates of Dawn). |
I can't believe I just read that here! I picked up all the remasters a while back in one fell swoop. One incredible band.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 17:59
Brian Belew was an amazing guitarist. Good gravy, and that was a long time ago around the time of early Van Halen.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 18:05
P.S. Not Adrian Belew, you KC Elephant Talk prog heads
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 22 2019 at 18:07
By the way, I do enjoy Adrian Belen's solo stuff. I found a bunch of tapes in bargain bins back in the 80s ... with songs like like Hot Zoo.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 12:10
Jaketejas wrote:
Brian Belew was an amazing guitarist. Good gravy, and that was a long time ago around the time of early Van Halen. |
Yeah, their run was from '80 to '87, concluding with Little Foxes. That album's killer, too. More synth. It's different from the previous albums. Barnabas was anything BUT cookie cutter, and that's why they couldn't get any traction in the scene like, say, Petra.
REZ Band has some phenomenal albums, too. I'm a sucker for a great female vocalist.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 12:19
I couldn't get into Little Foxes. At that time they'd moved to OK and things just fell apart. Before they were in Illinois and Gary Mann had access to an amazing studio, and everyone seemed to be firing on all cylinders. It is a shame because for the 2 albums I mentioned, they were doing some cutting edge work. I like some Rez, some not so much. Colours is my fave, with Autograph, Colours, and the incredibly raw and catchy American Dream.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 13:50
I have noticed some albums that others have listed that I also consider my favorites including Yes "Drama" and I also love "The Ladder". Another unconventional album I love is Rush "Caress of Steel". One I played yesterday that not many have heard of, and they are not progressive, but I still find that it is a favorite is Glassmoon's "Sympathetic Vibrations". I also love Steve Miller Band's really early albums (before "Fly Like an Eagle") like "Children of the Future", "Sailor" and "Number 5". These are not progressive but they are definitely unconventional.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 15:17
Me too ... love Caress of Steel. Some really nice strums, chord progressions, and bass lines in that. Steve Miller is one that is difficult to pideonhole and I enjoy as well. Good calls!
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 15:38
Jaketejas wrote:
I couldn't get into Little Foxes. At that time they'd moved to OK and things just fell apart. Before they were in Illinois and Gary Mann had access to an amazing studio, and everyone seemed to be firing on all cylinders. It is a shame because for the 2 albums I mentioned, they were doing some cutting edge work. I like some Rez, some not so much. Colours is my fave, with Autograph, Colours, and the incredibly raw and catchy American Dream. |
Yeah, Barnabas had technically called it a day. Little Foxes was their "contractual obligation" album. The money was already there, but they had to furnish a record before they could vamoose. It's different, but they certainly weren't coasting. "Destroy After Use" is one of their best songs, IMO.
For REZ, I love Mommy Don't Love Daddy Anymore and DMZ. I'm now delving into their later albums, and there's lots to love.
Cranking "Breathless Wonderment"...Brian makes those guys in Judas Priest sound like hacks!
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 23 2019 at 16:55
Those are good ones too. Prelude through BW is amazing!
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 00:22
Foxprog wrote:
King Crimson - Island, classical album disliked by any. Melancholic theme with breathtaking compositions is utterly beautiful. Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother, not a single bad song on it in my opinion. + the live perfomance of Alan's psychedelic breafast is crazy (eating cereals and cooking steaks). Genesis - We can't dance, yup I also like the pop era a bit. Kingston Wall - III, many people think that this is the worst album from them. I strongly disagee, The Real Thing is as epic as neo-prog can get. VDGG - The Aerosol Grey Machine - Into a game! Mike Oldfield - Incantations - BIG album with four pieces. Love every single minute of it.
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Not familiar with Kingston Wall, but yeah agree with what you say about the others. Just to personally throw in some others: Renaissance - Song For All Seasons Marillion - This Strange Engine Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth Yes - Magnification Steve Hackett - To Watch the Storms 10cc - Deceptive Bends Camel - Breathless
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 04:32
iluvmarillion wrote:
Renaissance - Song For All Seasons Steve Hackett - To Watch the Storms 10cc - Deceptive Bends Camel - Breathless
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Good calls! Love those!
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 04:52
patrickq wrote:
Yes, Fly From Here. Not at the level of Close to the Edge, Relayer, or Yessongs, but in the same league as Fragile, Drama, and The Yes Album. I assume this view is unconventional... |
Yes, that's unconventional I've always enjoyed Fly From Here. It's a good solid album with some memorable songs. They've recorded weaker albums IMO. That said, it would probably be just outside my top 5 Yes albums.
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Posted By: tempest_77
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 09:53
Country Music by Roxy Life. I think it's way better than their self-titled or For Your Pleasure.
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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 10:03
I enjoy both Fly From Here and Heaven and Earth, but I have to be in the right mood
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: June 24 2019 at 10:13
Having little in the way of expectations at that point, I found Fly From Here to be a very pleasant surprise and an album I really enjoy under any circumstance.
After that, I was excited to anticipate the release of Heaven & Earth. However, that one left me completely flat. I can't really articulate why because the two albums, at least on the surface, really seem quite similar. But for some reason, one reaches me an the other doesn't.
Interestingly, I had the exact same experience with Asia in the same time frame. I absolutely love XXX, and actually think it is far and away their best album. But then I have about zero interest in Gravitas; it does nothing for me.
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