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Topic: Recommend Dark Prog
Posted By: antibiotic
Subject: Recommend Dark Prog
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:16
Seeking recommendations of dark prog from any time period. In a way of King Crimson having a dark nature to their music.

Post away.



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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:20

Originally posted by antibiotic antibiotic wrote:

Seeking recommendations of dark prog from any time period. In a way of King Crimson having a dark nature to their music.

Post away.

Van der Graaf Generator and Peter Hammill are an obvious choice. nothing is darker than Peter Hammill's opera "The Fall of the House of Usher". Magma and Univers Zero are very dark too.



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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:52
Il Balletto Di Bronzo's Ys is a very dark 1972 opus!


Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 06:22
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by antibiotic antibiotic wrote:

Seeking recommendations of dark prog from any time period. In a way of King Crimson having a dark nature to their music.

Post away.

Van der Graaf Generator and Peter Hammill are an obvious choice. nothing is darker than Peter Hammill's opera "The Fall of the House of Usher". Magma and Univers Zero are very dark too.

yeah, I agree. I would say that Univers Zero is FRIGHTENINGLY DARK....I just discovered "Heresie" and I wouldn't recommend to listen to it with the lights off...



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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 08:09
Anekdoten and Anglagard (or are they not so dark, anyone? I can't think at the minute) are two popular Scandinavian examples. Devil Doll are pretty melodramatically dark, too.


Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 12:42

MORTE MACABRE

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=672 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=672



Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 13:13
Tool - Lateralus.


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 18:12

I'll recommend the two darkest Van Der Graaf Generator albums:

  • H to He, Who am The Only One
  • Pawn Hearts



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Posted By: d.o.k
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 18:45
  • Godspeed You Black Emperor
  • A Silver Mount Zion
  • Rachel's (ok this is not prog but classical/contemporary but shares concepts with prog. btw, they're really different from crimso)
  • Tarentel
These four bands may not suit you but as :
  • I'm a crimso fan
  • I love dark and sad stuffs (lot of minor keys)
... I guess you may share the same sensibility towards music, or at least a part of. If only one, pick Godspeed. This is not about being the best from the 4, but I discovered Gybe while looking for music that can be compared to "Starless" (long instrumental with violin/cello...)


Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 21:19

Try Anathema especially their album 'A natural Disaster' its so dark and gloomy but at the same time full of stunningly beautiful atmospheric tunes.

Or as Goose recommended the Swedish band  Anekdoten which have a Crimson influence with a touch of Radiohead.



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Posted By: antibiotic
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 22:19
Thanks for the replies. Keep them coming.

Some of the more obvious ones I know: VDGG, Tool, GYBE!, Anathema, Devil Doll...

But thank you for the replies anyway. I shall check out the stuff I haven't heard before.

d.o.k. : Have you heard a Finnish band called Skepticism? It's funeral doom, but you may be interested in checking them out seeing as you're a fan of Godspeed.


Posted By: d.o.k
Date Posted: September 25 2005 at 04:56
>>antibiotic. Not at all I'm gonna check that out.
Oh, that's cool, a website offers mp3 downloads  : http://www.anus.com/metal/skepticism.html - http://www.anus.com/metal/skepticism.html .
As soon as downloaded,  i'll listen that, thanks !


EDIT : oh sh!t, there are 3 mp3s... but 1 min lasting and 32kbps ! Btw i still can hear something and indeed it seems quite interesting. Thanks again.


Posted By: Hamatai
Date Posted: September 25 2005 at 08:06
Island - Pictures.
Il balletto di bronzo - Ys.


Posted By: Typography
Date Posted: September 25 2005 at 20:26
Yeti
Tarantula Hawk
Neurosis (not really prog, but dark and amazing)
Behold... the Arctopus


Posted By: Bones Rasta
Date Posted: September 26 2005 at 18:18

could it be said that specifically pink floyd's "Animals" could be called "dark"

 



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Posted By: Bones Rasta
Date Posted: September 26 2005 at 18:19

Goblin for sure as they did mostly record for italian horror movies

ARS NOVA



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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 26 2005 at 19:37
Most post-rock bands (primarily Godspeed You Black Emperor, A Silver Mt. Zion and Mogwai).  If you don't mind some heavier moments, try Peccatum's Lost in Reverie.


Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 27 2005 at 19:35
Discipline...Unfolded Like Staircase for some dark american prog in the 90's.


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 29 2005 at 18:08
basically...if it comes out of Sweden, it's dark...

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Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: September 30 2005 at 13:23
The two Gnidrolog albums surely deserve a mention here.

Also, Cervello


Posted By: Karl Hungus
Date Posted: September 30 2005 at 21:31
Originally posted by Petra Petra wrote:

Try Anathema especially their album 'A natural Disaster' its so dark and gloomy but at the same time full of stunningly beautiful atmospheric tunes.


I'd second the recommendation of Anathema, but I'd moreso go for the album "Eternity" which I think is a fair bit better than A Natural Disaster.


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Posted By: ulver982
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 00:14

Originally posted by Karl Hungus Karl Hungus wrote:

Originally posted by Petra Petra wrote:

Try Anathema especially their album 'A natural Disaster' its so dark and gloomy but at the same time full of stunningly beautiful atmospheric tunes.


I'd second the recommendation of Anathema, but I'd moreso go for the album "Eternity" which I think is a fair bit better than A Natural Disaster.

 

I agree with Eternity.  Alternative 4 is another one that really enjoy. 



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Posted By: ulver982
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 00:14
that I really enjoy. 

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Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius.

Silence is the music of the future.


Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 08:19
VDGG - The least we can do is wave too each other, oohhh the darkness, ahhhh the beauty ... great album

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Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 10:22
Since someone else has already suggested VDGG and Balletto di
Bronzo I'll go with Osanna - Palepoli. Or maybe Still Life (well, I was
about to add Procol Harum's Home for the morbid lyrics and the
depressing tone of some songs but I'm not sure you would
appreciate it...)


Posted By: ViolinCyndee
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 16:49

White Willow "Storm Season"..

Cyndee 



Posted By: Progcupine
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 17:47

anthema,no doubt!!

 I would choose "A natural disaster"



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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 18:15

VIRGIN BLACK

PETER GABRIEL

SAVIOUR MACHINE

 



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Posted By: margaret
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 19:54
Originally posted by antibiotic antibiotic wrote:

Thanks for the replies. Keep them coming.

Some of the more obvious ones I know: VDGG, Tool, GYBE!, Anathema, Devil Doll...

But thank you for the replies anyway. I shall check out the stuff I haven't heard before.

d.o.k. : Have you heard a Finnish band called Skepticism? It's funeral
doom, but you may be interested in checking them out seeing as you're a
fan of Godspeed.



have seen it mentioned a couple times, you should check this out


Il Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys

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Space is dark it is so endless
When you're lost it's so relentless
It is so big, it is small


Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 20:18
All my favorite dark bands come from Sweden: Anekdoten, Sinkadus, Landberk, Opeth, Paatos...

What's going on over there?

...cheer up guys!


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Posted By: lpd42
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 20:49
Guapo (five suns)
Magma
Thinking plague
comus

all very good, dark.


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Posted By: lpd42
Date Posted: October 16 2005 at 20:50
oops, almost forgot. There is none darker than Heresie and other early
Univers Zero. The audio equivelant to H. P. Lovecraft.

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Posted By: Martin.W
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 12:35
OPETH: try the darkly gentle 'Damnation' and the black-metallic/acoustic 'Blackwater Park'. 'Deliverance' is dark as hell as is the new one, 'Ghost Reveries',  but the key feature about the band is the light/dark contrast of the music that is an aspect of all their recordings. Swedish prog/black metal...another sub-genre! Music without barriers, thats PROG!!!     

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Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Roy Harper - Stormcock
Yes - Topographic Oceans
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Steve Hillage - L
Hawkwind - 1st LP




Posted By: Dennis
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 12:55
Check out the obscure and indie American Goth/prog band called The Red Masque. They make Peter Hammill and VDGG sound like child's play. Halloween, horror, terror, demonic, possessed, psycho, and the undead are just some of the words that come to mind when listening to their album called "Feathers for Flesh." With otherworldly dark female vocals, heavy gothic organ, treated mellotrons, radical dissident guitars, and a raw prog approach, this band comes off as authentically terrifying. Not easy to find, not easy to listen to, and not for the faint of heart. Hard to find but available through their web site. http://theredmasque.com/   

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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 13:07
I will say Anathema for the Th time... The Album "Judgment" is the most sad thing You ever heard In your entire miserable life...

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Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 13:15

Alan Parson's Project - Tales Of Mystery And Imagination

Van Der Graaf Generator - H To He Who Am The Only One

Peter Hammill - The Fall Of The House Of Usher

Peter Gabriel - Up (very dark mood at times)

 

If you can stand metal, try these bands:

Opeth

Godgory (album: Final Journey)

Evergrey

Type O Negative (album: World Coming Down)

 



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Posted By: silentman
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 13:17
Guapo, Polytown

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Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 13:18

^ Godgory album - "Way Beyond", the first track is called Final Journey, sorry



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Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 13:25

TOOL's "Aenima" and "Lateralus" are dark, and listenable inspired by King Crimson.



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 16:17
Miasma and the Carousel of Headless Horses are a more acoustic, acid - prog - folk sister band to the mighty Guapo. Very dark and sinister stuff with an East European feel (logically enough for a band from South London).

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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: October 18 2005 at 16:33
It depends on what you mean by "dark". Lyrically dark? Musically dark? Gothic?

I'd recommend Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Godspeed You Black Emperor, and Opeth.


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Posted By: ioriarai
Date Posted: October 19 2005 at 14:16
The album "MACABRE", by Dir en grey. Just by the name you can guess what's comming...


Posted By: antibiotic
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:15
Originally posted by Martin.W Martin.W wrote:

OPETH: try the darkly gentle 'Damnation' and the black-metallic/acoustic 'Blackwater Park'. 'Deliverance' is dark as hell as is the new one, 'Ghost Reveries',  but the key feature about the band is the light/dark contrast of the music that is an aspect of all their recordings. Swedish prog/black metal...another sub-genre! Music without barriers, thats PROG!!!     


Oh PLEASE, man. Opeth is not dark. They're amongst the most over-rated metal bands in existance.
Damnation is a good album, but it is the only good thing they have done. Simply cause it didn't have any 'metal' on it. The 'metal' aspect, Opeth are horrid at. Many MUCH MUCH better bands making dark metal around than Opeth. Go try early Bethlehem. They make Opeth sound like Hanson. I know you'd agree with me if you heard it.


Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:19

Originally posted by antibiotic antibiotic wrote:

Originally posted by Martin.W Martin.W wrote:

OPETH: try the darkly gentle 'Damnation' and the black-metallic/acoustic 'Blackwater Park'. 'Deliverance' is dark as hell as is the new one, 'Ghost Reveries',  but the key feature about the band is the light/dark contrast of the music that is an aspect of all their recordings. Swedish prog/black metal...another sub-genre! Music without barriers, thats PROG!!!     


Oh PLEASE, man. Opeth is not dark. They're amongst the most over-rated metal bands in existance.
Damnation is a good album, but it is the only good thing they have done. Simply cause it didn't have any 'metal' on it. The 'metal' aspect, Opeth are horrid at. Many MUCH MUCH better bands making dark metal around than Opeth. Go try early Bethlehem. They make Opeth sound like Hanson. I know you'd agree with me if you heard it.

 You  MUST be JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!! 



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Posted By: antibiotic
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:24
Originally posted by Kohllapse Kohllapse wrote:

Originally posted by antibiotic antibiotic wrote:

Originally posted by Martin.W Martin.W wrote:

OPETH: try the darkly gentle 'Damnation' and the black-metallic/acoustic 'Blackwater Park'. 'Deliverance' is dark as hell as is the new one, 'Ghost Reveries',  but the key feature about the band is the light/dark contrast of the music that is an aspect of all their recordings. Swedish prog/black metal...another sub-genre! Music without barriers, thats PROG!!!     


Oh PLEASE, man. Opeth is not dark. They're amongst the most over-rated metal bands in existance.
Damnation is a good album, but it is the only good thing they have done. Simply cause it didn't have any 'metal' on it. The 'metal' aspect, Opeth are horrid at. Many MUCH MUCH better bands making dark metal around than Opeth. Go try early Bethlehem. They make Opeth sound like Hanson. I know you'd agree with me if you heard it.

 You  MUST be JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!! 



No sunshine, I'm not. Whether it's a good or bad thing, my 'main' music has been metal for a long time. I know the genre quite well, and Opeth just do not cut it in terms of being 'dark' and 'metal'.

If anyone wants any 'dark metal' reccommendations, just ask, I'm more than happy to share things most people on this forum would have never heard/heard of. A lot of you would be surprised, I think.


Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:31
Originally posted by antibiotic antibiotic wrote:

Originally posted by Kohllapse Kohllapse wrote:

Originally posted by antibiotic antibiotic wrote:

Originally posted by Martin.W Martin.W wrote:

OPETH: try the darkly gentle 'Damnation' and the black-metallic/acoustic 'Blackwater Park'. 'Deliverance' is dark as hell as is the new one, 'Ghost Reveries',  but the key feature about the band is the light/dark contrast of the music that is an aspect of all their recordings. Swedish prog/black metal...another sub-genre! Music without barriers, thats PROG!!!     


Oh PLEASE, man. Opeth is not dark. They're amongst the most over-rated metal bands in existance.
Damnation is a good album, but it is the only good thing they have done. Simply cause it didn't have any 'metal' on it. The 'metal' aspect, Opeth are horrid at. Many MUCH MUCH better bands making dark metal around than Opeth. Go try early Bethlehem. They make Opeth sound like Hanson. I know you'd agree with me if you heard it.

 You  MUST be JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!! 



No sunshine, I'm not. Whether it's a good or bad thing, my 'main' music has been metal for a long time. I know the genre quite well, and Opeth just do not cut it in terms of being 'dark' and 'metal'.

If anyone wants any 'dark metal' reccommendations, just ask, I'm more than happy to share things most people on this forum would have never heard/heard of. A lot of you would be surprised, I think.
 

"my 'main' music has been metal for a long time. I know the genre quite well"

 Obvioulsly not !!!!!!

 

 "and Opeth just do not cut it in terms of being 'dark' and 'metal'."

 I was referring to these bolded comments.

They're amongst the most over-rated metal bands in existance.
Damnation is a good album, but it is the only good thing they have done. Simply cause it didn't have any 'metal' on it. The 'metal' aspect, Opeth are horrid at. Many MUCH MUCH better bands making dark metal around than Opeth. Go try early Bethlehem. They make Opeth sound like Hanson.



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Posted By: antibiotic
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:53
Originally posted by Kohllapse Kohllapse wrote:

 Obvioulsly not !!!!!!



Double.


Posted By: antibiotic
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:53
Originally posted by Kohllapse Kohllapse wrote:

 Obvioulsly not !!!!!!



Over a thousand albums within 3 metres away from me at the moment, say the opposite This is just stuff I cared enough for to keep. There is an Opeth cd in there, don't worry. Wait up, there's two haha. One is signed, thought I'd keep it.


Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 01:02

If anyone wants any 'dark metal' reccommendations, just ask, I'm more than happy to share things most people on this forum would have never heard/heard of. A lot of you would be surprised, I think.

   Recommend me some.



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Posted By: Mnemosyne
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 12:14

Subterranean Masquerade and Green Carnation, two great dark prog bands worth checking out...

@ Kohllapse: Check out the doom metal band IT WILL COME, you'll love it.



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Posted By: parrymason
Date Posted: October 20 2005 at 12:40
VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR

Highly recommended!


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Posted By: antibiotic
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 02:00
Originally posted by Kohllapse Kohllapse wrote:

If anyone wants any 'dark metal' reccommendations, just ask, I'm more than happy to share things most people on this forum would have never heard/heard of. A lot of you would be surprised, I think.

   Recommend me some.



Sorry man, I was away for a little while.

Here's a list, some of this may be a bit difficult to find, some not so.

These mp3s are easy to acquire:

Esoteric (UK) -- Metamorphogenesis (If you had to download only one track off this, make it The Secret Of The Secret)

Skepticism (Fin) -- Lead & Aether (www.doom-metal.com has an mp3 of a track called The March And The Stream, from this album. It's probably their best track, although all their work is fantastic.)

Bethlehem (Ger) -- S.U.I.Z.I.D.

Mournful Congregation (Aus) -- The Monad Of Creation



Stuff you may find a bit difficult to find:

Unholy (Fin) -- From The Shadows
The Axis Of Perdition (UK) -- Deleted Scenes From The Transition Hospital
Portal (Aus) -- Seepia

Now. I've just realised that quite a bit of what I just wrote down for you is from a genre called Funeral Doom (Esoteric, Skepticism, Mournful and Unholy). Funeral Doom = very slow pace. But anyway, check those out, whatever you can find and then post back how the "darkness" of these bands compares to those silly Opeth swedes. Hopefully you will see my point.

Alternatively, if you have MSN [email protected] is me. I can just send you some stuff over that.

Regards.


Posted By: antibiotic
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 02:03
Originally posted by Mnemosyne Mnemosyne wrote:

Subterranean Masquerade and Green Carnation, two great dark prog bands worth checking out...

@ Kohllapse: Check out the doom metal band IT WILL COME, you'll love it.



Aren't It Will Come some My Dying Bride clone?

I much prefer In The Woods... to GC. Have you heard them? They shared some members.



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