Tim Buckley vs. Jeff Buckley
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Topic: Tim Buckley vs. Jeff Buckley
Posted By: Morningrise
Subject: Tim Buckley vs. Jeff Buckley
Date Posted: April 20 2019 at 16:52
| Whose music do you enjoy most? Father or son? |
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: April 20 2019 at 17:09
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Oh dear, they both are great. But I remember Tim's wonderful Goodbye/Hello LP (still in my collection) with great fondness. Pleasant Street is still relevant. So I must vote for the father, also for without him, there would not be the son. Both sadly gone too soon. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: April 20 2019 at 17:38
"Pleasant Street" is probably my favourite Buckley Sr. piece of music as well. |
Snicolette wrote:Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 01:50
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Tim, by a landslide .... Not that Jeff is bad, on the contrary... But by the time of his age at death time, his dad had many records (over 50% of them masterpieces), when he had only one official release - and maybe an EP. Of course his total posthumous output has made it somewhat of a more fleshy œuvre, but so has Tim's. And Jeff's vbest known and greatest hit is not from him either, but Cohen's. Tim's official historical releases has at least 4 fantastic albums: Happy Sad, Lorca, Starsailor & Greetings from LA. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 08:03
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Well said, Sean. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 08:30
True. But none of those fantastic Tim Buckley's releases comes as close to perfection as Jeff Buckley's "Grace". Forget about "Hallelujah". The rest of the album is flawless. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 11:36
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I think perhaps that what is seen here is an evolution over years of how the music, sophistication of recording technology and tighter production values as well as how the audience had changed, as well. The culture was very different from father to son, father drew a lot on what had come before, as did his son, but his son had farther back to draw from based in part, on what his father and those of that generation accomplished. I know that you are not implying this at all, but my own musing brought me to it. It always appalls me a bit when I hear disrespect for those who went before in a genre by those who didn't live it...the one eventually grows into another. Breaking ground is breaking ground. You maybe don't have to like it, it maybe doesn't appeal to you, but arguably, what you love would perhaps not have been possible without that which doesn't move you by those who went before. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 15:15
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I love Tim Buckley while not a fan of Jeff's Grace-album so its a no brainer. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 15:48
This would make a great scene on Game of Thrones!  -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 17:14
Hey, no Tim, no Jeff   |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: April 21 2019 at 17:26
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Exactly, Sean! ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: April 22 2019 at 14:27
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Jeff never reached the peaks ofHappy Sad, Lorca and Starsailor. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |