Have you read Dostoevsky's Notes From Underground?
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Topic: Have you read Dostoevsky's Notes From Underground?
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Have you read Dostoevsky's Notes From Underground?
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 08:20
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 14:58
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No. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 15:00
| Yes, I've read most of his novels. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 25 2019 at 19:16
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Yes but it's not one of his best books. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 10:05
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^ I would sooner re-read "Crime and Punishment" (one of my recommendations I made to someone at the site) or various others. I read "Notes from Underground" for one of my classes many years ago. A survey was done elsewhere on how many had read it. It received something like 963 votes in a week before being closed. 25% voted that they had read it, and I wondered how that would compare to the audience here. I knew we wouldn't get as many votes here -- even a Prog poll with the most popular of bands would not reach such numbers, we are an increasingly small, active community, and the subject matter would be more likely to appeal to that other audience (deals with philosophical and psychological subject matter). That said, I also knew that we have had a literate community here with people such as Vomps who are into such things. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 10:51
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Yes, I studied it as part of my philosophy degree many years ago. I can't remember it too clearly mow though, it was a long time ago ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 11:29
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I am embarrassed to say that with all of my reading (including tons of classic lit), I haven't read any Dostoevsky. I really need to. My son is a huge fan of Russian literature, he will likely have a good recommendation for me on what to start with, but in the meantime, what do any of you readers suggest? ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 11:34
| I read it long time ago, I remember little of it though. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 14:23
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Snicolette wrote:Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 14:44
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I've read it, and rate it highly. If I was to pick a favorite it would probably be The Gambler. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: January 26 2019 at 14:47
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It's hard to argue against it giving us the first existential novel, the unreliable narrator as a literary device and a warning about the anomie engendered by collectivism ------------- 
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 27 2019 at 03:51
I agree with almost everything, and I still hate it.
 Liked Crime and Punishment and The Gambler a lot, though. Currently have The Brothers Karamazov on my reading pile.------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 28 2019 at 07:59
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On discussing with my son, he agreed with those here who felt Crime and Punishment would be the best start. He has also read The Gambler, The Brothers Karamazov and Notes From The Underground, and suggested that I also read Pushkin, who is his favourite.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: January 28 2019 at 13:50
| No! Life is too short to be reading the "classics" when there are so many great modern novels around. Especially "classics" that I have no cultural, current or historical connection to. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 06:01
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Brothers Karamazov is a monster of a book, it's long but exciting and tense from beginning to end with great insights about life and everything by the wayside. I'd always recommend that to people who love reading and would not stay away from something for the sole reason that it has too many pages (or is too old  ). Poll question: My answer is yes but I'm more of a Dostoevskij fan than a big reader in general. And I agree it's far from the number one thing to recommend by him. And another one of these notes on Logan's study design: Obviously the vast majority of those on PA who haven't read it won't even bother to take part in the poll, so only the number of yes votes is informative, their proportion says next to nothing.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 06:23
Big books don't scare me...I've read Jerusalem, War & Peace and Jean-Christophe and some few others. Also a fan of long series. Not high literature, but I have also read the entire Morland Dynasty series, 35 volumes in all. I must have a lot of free time (not really, but books are a priority, as is music).  Thank you for the suggestion(s).------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 09:20
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I'd most recommend The Brothers Karamazov, and then the Idiot and Crime and Punishment if you're in the mood. I agree with you on his very informal, non-serious study, Lewian. When the professors with a quite popular podcast did the same poll on twitter, they got 973 or so votes in a week with 25 percent voting no, but it's to be expected that more of their fans would want to take part in it. Even then the results would be biased towards those who have read it (plus there was a bet going). Whenever I make polls, I do make predictions of who will and won't post, and how said individuals will vote. I predicted that this poll would not get so much attention period (either posts or votes), and in terms of a study, it's the amount of attention that I was most looking at (I was hoping it would generate some discussion, and it has). I had read some Dostoevsky for my own pleasure (my mother and a brother was a "fan"), but I read Notes From Underground, like with Chaser, for Philosophy. I don't know that I would have gotten around to reading it otherwise. Dostoevsky is more the sort of thing I would have read more in my youth for pleasure (or even when I joined PA) than now, but I don't read nearly as much for pleasure as I used to (I do find reading books harder with my eyes now -- I now have reading glasses, but never got used to them). When I was younger, reading was my main solitary pastime. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 09:25
Thank you, Logan...For me, it made for some good recommendations and good conversation....probably not what the poll intended, but I'll take it. ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 09:35
Ultimately, I'm all about the conversation, recommendations, and just reading what people have to say here (especially from people such as yourself whom I always enjoy reading). Thank you for being here.  ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 29 2019 at 10:14
Thank you so much!  ------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp |