Mick Karn
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Topic: Mick Karn
Posted By: tszirmay
Subject: Mick Karn
Date Posted: January 03 2019 at 22:44
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Not having included Mick Karn into the site is an outright crime. Not progressive enough? Even though Steve Wilson played with them and Porcupine Tree's Richard Barbieri plays with Karn on numerous delightful albums? None have been given the respect of earning their right to prove their musical worth. Firstly, Karn's bass playing is cosmic, a thorough lecture and seminar on the art of playing the four-string monster. But it's also wildly experimental and quite the ride! All his albums are tremendous insights in compositional exploration , using his wobbly bass to perfection , a proggier Jaco Pastorius in wanting to dominate the arrangement and rightly so! It's modern, even avant-garde at times, forged by a wanton desire to abandon the easy path of poppy success and delve instead into complex , mind altering pieces, chiseled with gentle bombast. You want to be a bass player? Well, this guy is a master. Shocking, disturbing and sadly, tragic , Karn died a while back, a blow to the musical universe of stars! He is up there with Jaco , jamming on some cloud. I suggest you try out his last album , 2010's 'The Concrete Twin', a whirlwind slab of genius!
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 01:25
| I agree totally !! I listened to Dali’s Car the other day and it blew me away. His work in Japan and as a solo artist is worthy. Definitely a one-of-a-kind. He should still be with us. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 03:32
| You can suggest him for inclusion in the New Bands section. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 09:50
Yeah, he would be a great addition to prog archives.
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chopper wrote:Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 10:49
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Another Mick Karn fan here. Awesome unique bassist with interesting and fascinating solo output, not to be missed! |
Posted By: grantman
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 12:34
| The song Sons of pioneers features one of the greatest bass lines of all time |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 13:57
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Karn Evil 9??? heheheh ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 19:13
| .....and he plays more than just the bass........... |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: January 06 2019 at 00:00
I can't believe he's not considered prog. He is one the best players. Right up there with Percy Jones and Geddy Lee. Watching him play bass in videos... He just makes it look so effortless. It's pure genius. Nobody sounds like Mick Karn. 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 06 2019 at 10:33
^ For many of us, it may not be so much that's not considered Prog as he's never been properly formally considered. Normally that process is started in Suggest New Bands and Artists and if that topic is well prepared then the suggested teams take on the evaluation. What Prog category do people think he best fits? He has quite a few albums to consider for placement.
That's true, or being a Collaborator, Thomas can take it to one of the team threads directly for an evaluation as I'm sure he must know (and perhaps has done so). That said, I think a well prepared Suggestion thread is best, then bring that link to a team's attention. I haven't heard his music, which category best fits him do you think? As I look through his discography I see that he has quite a few albums so perhaps not an easy case.... I've moved this to General Music Discussions since the Progressive Music Lounges are not intended for such discussions of bands or artists not included in the bands/artists database (see http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13082" rel="nofollow - CLICK for those that don't know. So I am treating this as more of an appareciation thread and to get people interested rather than as a formal suggestion thread. I might have moved this to Suggest New Bands but then it's better to start such a topic operating under the guidelines of how to create topics there. See http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51990" rel="nofollow - CLICK for any who are new to this site and may be seeing this topic who are interested in suggesting bands. Karn has been suggested at least twice before: See http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62047" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=62047 from 2009 (for the collaboration Polytown) and http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=718" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=718 but neither topic was presented with the kind of standards of research and info that we would certainly expect today or even long ago in terms of information, suggested Prog category, biographical info and links including links to music. I have not noticed any Suggestion threads that reference 'The Concrete Twin' (I see it as being a 2009 album at rateyourmusic, but don't know if it first came out before or after the 2009 Mick Karn Suggestion thread. https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/mick-karn" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/mick-karn He doesn't have as many reviews there as I might have expected (Concrete Twin only has one review). I see that The Concrete Twin is listed there as Jazz Fusion and Experimental Rock. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Karn" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Karn This is the first solo music that I've heard of his and I wasn't expecting to like much of his as much as I do: Looking over all, it seems to me that he might be best suited for an Art Rock sub (either Crossover or Eclectic) or possibly Jazz Fusion based on some of his albums. Unsing the genres listed at rateyourmusic: - Titles (1982) is listed as Art Pop New Romantic, Synthpop, Dub - Dreams of Reason Produce Monsters (1987) is listed as Art Pop, Progressive Pop Electronic - Bestial Cluster (1993) as Jazz Fusion - Polytown (1994 • David Torn, Mick Karn & Terry Bozzio) as Progressive Rock, Jazz Fusion, Modern Classical, Avant-Garde Jazz, Free Jazz - The Tooth Mother (1995) as Jazz Fusion - Liquid Glass (1998 • Yoshihiro Hanno Meets Mick Karn) as Nu Jazz, Acid Jazz Drum and Bass - Each Eye a Path (2000) as Progressive Rock - Each Path a Remix & Each Eye a Remix (2003) as [none listed] - More Better Different (2004) as Jazz-Funk Trip Hop - Three Part Species (2006) as [no genre listed] - The Concrete Twin (2009) as Jazz Fusion Experimental Rock -------------------------------------- I like this Steve Jansen / Richard Barbieri / Mick Karn track: Pretty big discography now, so may not be an easy evaluation and the more thorough leg work to help the evaluators I guess the more likely he could get included. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 06 2019 at 11:46
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You guys are right. If this doesn't qualify Mick/BC, I don't know what does. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 06 2019 at 11:47
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Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: January 06 2019 at 21:17
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Well lets see now. Richard Barbieri - member of Porcupine Tree. PROG Steve Jansen - played with members of yellow magic orchestra, and also David Sylvian's little brother. (PROG ENOUGH) All of the above have played/co conspired with Steve Wilson. Also the very fact that Mick Karn's records can't be put into any specific category (acid jazz, prog, new wave, romantic, pop) should right away classify him as Prog on this website. Just Sayin   ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: January 06 2019 at 21:18
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This video (bestial cluster) and this song kick ass.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 07 2019 at 01:49
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The live clip of Steven Wilson with Karn, Barbieri and Jansen is a blast. Very impressive. I think I may spin me Gentlemen Take Polaroids sometime this eve.... |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: January 07 2019 at 14:30
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Fantastic musician. His last album is certainly one of his best with his collaboration with Yoshihiro Hanno that I love very much too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmJXpkBdFo |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 07 2019 at 14:45
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: January 10 2019 at 03:16
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Gary Numan - Slowcar To China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzz2Ki21E-8&list=RD4IJVRAIA1Rk&index=14 |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 10 2019 at 05:43
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