What’s your favorite in "Suppers Ready"
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Topic: What’s your favorite in "Suppers Ready"
Posted By: Zooka_Jesus
Subject: What’s your favorite in "Suppers Ready"
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:05
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mine is the willow farm...yay ------------- Gentle Gaint owns every prog band 
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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:09
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Lover's Leap. Very hynotising. |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:26
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its all good i love apocalypse in 9/8 and as sure as eggs is eggs ------------- 
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:42
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I'll second that!!! |
NetsNJFan wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:46
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Lover's Leap Willow Farm And As Sure Is Eggs Is Eggs Though it is all wonderful ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 17:56
I adore the whole thing. The whole album actually. My all-time favorite, along with CTTE ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:01
I think the best part of almost every side-long epic in prog history is the finale (because it's finally over! Just kidding! ). In this case, my choice is As Sure as Eggs is Eggs.------------- My recent purchases: 
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Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:18
These are my favourites, it's all good though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Violenza/?chartstyle=tree"> 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:33
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Apocalypse in 9/8
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Posted By: Fritha
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:33
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Uhg, errr, "Willow Farm" is certainly fun to sing along to... I'm not the biggest fan of this epic, though. In fact, I could happily skip "Apocalypse in 9/8" every single time...
------------- I was made to love magic |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:43
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Counting Out Time ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: fiori
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:44
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As sure as egg is egg... My favorite part of my favorite song from Genesis! ------------- "-Mr Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there... In one word, how'd you describe it? -Progressive... yeah... that's it" |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 18:58
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mine is "Apocalypse in 9/8". strangely it is also the most
disappointing part at the same time. how can that be? simple: in the
live version of "Supper's Ready" on "Seconds Out" Tony Banks repeats
the studio version of his solo in the "Apocalypse" part note for note.
this is highly disappointing; that part calls for a real wild keyboard
attack live, with lots of improvisation. how very boring. sit, Banks,
and write "I shall not repat my solos live" 500 times
-------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: supper'sready72
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 19:03
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It's hard to say, the entire song is brilliant. It's a masterpiece. If I had to choose though, I'd say Apocalypse in 9/8. I simply can't get enough of that 4/4 keyboard solo over the 9/8 drumbeat. Simply spectacular. Or maybe as sure as eggs is eggs. Peter Gabriel's powerful vocals really evoke alot of emotion P.S. Have you seen my signature? ------------- "Can't you feel our souls ignite? Shedding ever-changing colors,in the darkness of the fading night..." -Genesis |
Posted By: Runaway
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 19:35
Itsacon and Itacon and their band of merry man, great song. And hello to everyone , this is my first post!
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Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 19:58
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It's got to be As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs "Can you feel our souls ignite!!???" so much passion!!!.......
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:00
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Hi, and welcome!!
My favorite part: Apocalypse in 9/8 ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Fearless
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:07
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That's not Tony's style...he is classically trained and is a perfectionist. He never showed off or tryed to steal the show, that's why he repeats the solo note for note-- it serves a purpose in the song. No reason to change this section's role in the album. ------------- If you don't stand up You don't stand a chance! |
Posted By: Fearless
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:10
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Do ya still think Foxtrot is overrated? Looks like ZJ might have turned over a new leaf.
BTW, my 'favorite' part is the beginning (up until How Dare I Be so Beautiful), especially the instrumental section between Lover's Leap and Guarnateed Eternal Sanctuary Man. ------------- If you don't stand up You don't stand a chance! |
Posted By: Zooka_Jesus
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:13
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------------- Gentle Gaint owns every prog band
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Posted By: Raymon7174
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:14
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Very difficult to choose, but I get my most intense prog moments during "The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man" and Apocalypse in 9/8. WOW!!!!!!! -------------  Raymon
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:20
The first part and last part are my favorites. Sorry, don't remember the names (I think the first is Lover's Leap?) and I've been looking for my Foxtrot CD for months now (  ) so I don't have it to look at either.
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Posted By: norbert88
Date Posted: September 15 2005 at 20:31
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Mine are Willow Farm Apocalypse In 9/8 I forget what As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs sounds like....I only remember those parts ^ I haven't listened to Foxtrot in a while... norbert88 |
Posted By: SlipperFink
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 01:48
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9/8.
Listen to how Phil develops the picture from the basic bass pedal pulse. Bum-Bum. Bum. Bum-Bum-Bum. This is classic genuis of the young Phil Collins. His hands support the basic pulse and build steadily in intensity with angular and incisive firework fills. But the foot... Ahh... the foot iz da killa. At first spurious and intermittant.... It builds and builds in velocity and persistance... By the end of the section it has mounted to a herculean series of ostinato doubles and triplets that push the song tension to a furious apogee. No one has ever matched the young Collins on drums for sheer passion, MUSICALITY and grace in the history of prog. He was King. King. The most fun part of watching the 'real' Genesis live.... Was watching Peter... Watch PHIL. SM. |
Posted By: Poxx
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 02:18
| Of course it is "Ikhnaton And Itsacon And Their Band Of Merry Men". They found the perfect combination of anger and euphoria, Banks keys are reminiscent of heaven, and then Hackett's gut slicing solo breaks out of the driving rhythm, slowly erupting into divinity. Genius. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 04:02
I disagree; when I go to a concert, I don't want solos to be repeated note for note; I could listen to the band at home then ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 08:03
| I love the intro, especially the studio version with the dual vocals one octave apart. I also love the "today's the day to celebrate" bit, but the highlight for me is the ending. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 08:25
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EVERYTHING!! ------------- 
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 08:34
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Supper's Ready ------------- 
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Posted By: ProgPartin
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 10:51
The whole piece is my favorite prog, to pick one part over this others is almost too hard . Today I would say Willow's Farm, But tomorrow it could be Lover's Leap. It all depend on mood I guess.
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Posted By: Sweetmonkeylove
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 11:49
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Mine's gotta be Itsacon and Itacon and their band of merry men As sure as eggs is eggs I like apocalypse but its a touch too long in places. The whole thing is a masterpiece, so it shouldnt matter. ------------- Isn't this the worst signature ever? I mean really? |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 12:08
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Apocalypse in 9/8. sweet time signature, and phil's drums rock. defeinitely my favorite time sig next to 7/8. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 17 2005 at 13:01
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Apocalypse in 9/8 ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 05:45
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I've known it for so long, that I now appreciate each and every single part of it.
Yet I must admit that the sections that struck me most at first were Willow Farm and Apocalypse in 9/8...so weird the first, so nervous the second... Still today, the part I find myself singing from time to time is Apocalypse in 9/8... ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 07:38
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 08:10
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The whole thing should be taken in as one IMO. It was written and arranged as a suite, but if I had to choose, I would go for the 9/8 section, although Lovers Leap is good, but then again... You see what happens!! I have to listen to the whole damn thing! ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 10:56
Agreed. I have some Genesis live material and I keep waiting for something special to be added to the songs and they repeat them verbatim. That pisses me off and just like you, I would rather sit in the comforts of my home and spin the studio lp then see them repeat it live. PS....Willow Farm for me. |
Posted By: Prodigal
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 17:27
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Willow Farm for me too. |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 17:32
That makes three of us. Why go to a concert if it's going to be note for note? ------------- My recent purchases:
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 17:49
| No doubt: Apocalyps 9/8 with that mindblowing, psychedelic inspired organ solo from the 'upper stiff lip' Tony Banks, what a contrast! By the way, Tony Banks was know for his inability to improvise! |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 17:54
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Apocolypse in 9/8 As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs Whole song is really great tho. ------------- 
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Posted By: Harmonium
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 17:55
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Mine is ''Ikhnaton And Itsacon And Their Band Of Merry Men'', Hackett's solo gives me shivers everytime ! And talking about Supper's Ready, this weekend, I invited some of my freinds at my house and they saw some genesis paintings on my wall ( my father painted them some years ago: there's Peter in is Watcher of the sky costume, the little girl from nursery crymes and a bunch of characters from Trick of The Tail cover ). So they asked me what it was and I started to explain to them wkat was Prog. They said I sounded really passionate about it, so they asked me to make them listen to it. It was like 2:00 am, and I put in me CD player the album Foxtrot and directly go to Supper's Ready. I told them taht it was a 22 minute song. I thought they were going to be scared or to find it boring but no, the exact opposite happened. We sat on my bed and I saw them, there eyes popping out of there skull and there jaw wide open, telling me every five minute how incredible it was. It was a type of music, something new, that they never experienced before and they kliked it. I'm glad to have open-minded freinds like that :) ( and by the way, one of my freind was a girl, so, here you go, another female prog fan Have you ever experienced such a thing ?? ------------- - Comme Un Fou, Tout Est Si Clair - |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 18:29
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I see it as a whole...cant say this oe or that one! ITS ALL SUPERB ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: uriah561
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:26
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I have to say either Willow's Farm or Apocalypse in 9/8, but I still think the whole song is the highlight. Rock on, Genesis! ------------- Robert G. Chicago, Illinois |
Posted By: anotherbrick
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 00:48
| Not only do I not remember the names of each section, but I love the whole thing together. Just having sections of the song would not be cool. Gotta love the whole thing! But, the part that sticks out to me the most I think is Apocalypse in 9/8, if I'm thinking of the right part. |
Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: September 22 2005 at 13:48
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The
whole thing is just awsome. You got to programme the cd to play
Horizion's first and again at the end. Outstanding
------------- See The Swan Fly High |
Posted By: Fearless
Date Posted: September 22 2005 at 17:43
I agree also. What I was saying in the first place is that this particular part (9/8 solo) doesn't need to be changed. A fast, uncoordinated solo would be pointless and pretensious. A song such as Supper's Ready has certain sections that hold it together, the Apocalypse solo being one of them. This section of the song would, in a way, lose its identity if altered too much. ------------- If you don't stand up You don't stand a chance! |
Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: September 22 2005 at 18:06
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"Willow Farm" for sure. ------------- The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. http://www.last.fm/user/sbonfiglioli/?chartstyle=red"> 
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: September 22 2005 at 21:46
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I don't know... the whole song is superb!! But Willow Farm is the part I have the most fun to sing along. Musically, I prefer the solos in The band of Merry Men and in Apocalypse in 9/8. That drum beat and that keyboard solos are... GREAT!!! Anyway, I always listen to the whole thing since it's such a great song! Let's put it on right now!! -------------  
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: porter
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 10:40
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Ikhnaton and Itsacon for me...one of Hacketts' greatest solos ever especially the tapping part at the end (I guess many guitarists here will agree) ------------- "my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III") |
Posted By: el_Sethro
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 16:52
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1.Willow Farm 2.Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man 3. Ikhnaton and Itsacon and Their Band of Merry Men but the whole song's absolutely incredible. one of my favorites, for sure ------------- Who you gonna call? |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: September 24 2005 at 17:12
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Its gotta be Willow Farm for me. Apocalypse is close but Willow Farm will
ever remain as my favorite. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 16:17
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Itsacon and Itacon and their band of merry men I'm suprised not as many people love this one, with it's great guitar solo. |
Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 17:01
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I think every single note, tone and mood on "Supperīs ready" is just accurate and full of creativity, passion and conviction. I could hardly find a match for this song. Excuse me for comparing this to others. But I really feel there is not enough justice among critics when judging this song. "Supperīs ready" has way more musical ideas, atmospheres, images and creativity than "Close to the edge", which is nothing but a Prog-pop song that relies on repetitive vocal hooks throughout. Great and entertaining hooks but repetitive nonetheless. "Tarkus" could be a great match but there is always that feeling of "loss of direction" on this song. This one sounds like a dozen of songs mixed together very badly. They are all entertaining and the playing is great and impressive, it really is good and I love it. I could say "Supperīs ready" is better for the theatrical aspect. Genesis delivers way more feelings, moods and textures than EL&P in "Tarkus". While "Tarkus" is somewhat impersonal...Damn ĄĄ, I really like "Tarkus", but after listening "Supperīs " I know imagination and creativity is on Genesisīside. "Atom heart mother", "Echoes" and "Dogs", by Floyd are all written on no more than 3 ideas each. The songwritting, imagination and creativity is poor. They sure deliver apealing moods and feelings, but simplier songs can do that too. Also, this songs always repeat the main melodies somewhere after the horrible-time-consuming-middle sections. "Shine" is wonderful. Itīs IMO the moodiest and most inspired long-side-song. Still, "Supperīs" doesnīt lose a single second out of itīs 23 minutes and fills every single one with images and originality. Creativity is a factor I really value and "Supperīs" has way more of it than "Shine". "Thick as a brick I" is marvelous. ...Itīs full of images, imagination, moods and evrything....I donīt know, itīs also very entertaining and greatly played. "Supperīs" is better because it shows a wider range of textures, moods and images. "Lizard"....No arguments. By the way. Apocalyse in 9/8 is an overlooked piece of music among Genesisī output. Had any other band played it, would be considered the top of itīs cataloge. Genesis was just too creative to look at all they wrote. While others with much less imagination like YES receive more credit for Prog-pop songs like "Close to the edge". Bottom line, "9/8". |
Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 21:11
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"If you go down to Willow Farm, to look for butterflies, flutterbyes, gutterflies..."
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