Favourite VdGG Lyric
Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation
Forum Description: Discuss specific prog bands and their members or a specific sub-genre
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=115021
Printed Date: March 10 2025 at 02:31 Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Favourite VdGG Lyric
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Subject: Favourite VdGG Lyric
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 04:12
Generally speaking, I focus on the music rather than the lyrics. However, in the case of Van der Graaf Generator, the lyrics are an extra dimension to the music that I enjoy, and there are particular lyrics that I especially like. My favourite VdGG lyric is my signature ("I was thinking about thinking but it really didn't get me very far."), which is the opening lyric of Blackroom (from Time Vaults - and hence a VdGG lyric and not just a Peter Hammill lyric). Other favourite lyrics include: "I run because I don't know where the prison lies." "You'll begin to wonder if the points of all the ancients myths are solemnly directed straight at you." "Ghosts betray you, ghosts betray you, in the night they steal your eye from its socket and the ball hangs fallen on your cheek." "It's far too late to turn, unless it's to stone." "Alone, he opens to the world... but it's much too late. He's been left, in the end, without a face." "She's into lizards, she's into snakes, he's into trauma - still got the shakes from a lady who only talked dogs and cats making love in the alley - she thought like that." "Living, if you claim that all that entails is breathing, eating, defecating, screwing, drinking, spewing, sleeping, sinking ever down and down and ultimately passing away time which no longer has any meaning." What are your favourite VdGG lyrics?
------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
|
Replies:
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 04:42
So many lines from one of the most inventive artists I know - I could choose many, but, this : ‘Shower curtain imperative, in the presence of acid, now feeling placid, is death’ One of numerous examples. Oh, it’s VDGG, not Hammill himself...... VDGG - dunno, perhaps ‘Greasy machinery sliding on rails, young minds and bodies on steel spokes impaled !’ ‘What choices are left but to die’..........
|
Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 10:10
Hammill's lyrics are special indeed. The whole of "Still Life" is hands down my favourite song of all time lyrically. I have a soft spot for these here lines, especially with Hammill's maniacal delivery: Take away the threat of death and all you're Left with is a round of make-believe. Marshal every sullen breath and though you're Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy It's still the ring by which you hope to be Engaged
------------- "Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar."
|
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 12:01
My fave lyricist is a dead tie between PH & Sinfield (with PG close behind...guess you have to be named Peter to be a great prog lyricist Focusing on PH, there's so many brilliant lines to choose from, but I definitely have a #1 favorite:
"Maelstrom of my memory is a vampyre and it feeds on me"
After that, some of my other favorites:
"And I too live inside me and very often don't know who I am I know I'm not a hero, but I hope that I'm not damned"
"But now the nuptial bed is made The dowry has been paid The toothless haggard features of eternity Now welcome me between the sheets To couple with her withered body...my wife" - especially love the way he sings it on the live album Vital 
"The universe is doubtless unfolding just exactly as it should And these dreams of remorse or foreboding just won't do you any good"
"Every step appears to be the unavoidable consequence of the preceding one And in the end there beckons more and more clearly...total annihilation"
"I'm gonna stamp on the sawdust and scream 'till I'm ill If the guitar don't get ya, the drums will" - technically a PH solo song, but the band did play it on Vital
------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987
|
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 08:23
Hi,
I have no favorites whatsover.
Peter is, above all, a fantastic actor with words, and this is the difference. He can take a simple line and make it stand out. This is the case with great actors the past 100 years. They can turn one word into a whole sentence and make you think.
I, personally, can not find a favorite, but I really like "A Way Out" (it's Peter's not VdGG), as a perfect example ... it's really simple, nothing fancy, and the only thing that matters ... is the last line of it all ... and we don't even appreciate it, and think that other lines have more meaning. I'm not sure that there is a line/song with more meaning for Peter and VdGG than that one ... it says it all!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
|
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 08:46
"I've learned my lines, I know them so well,
I am ready to tell whoever will finally come in
of the line in my mind that's cold in the night....
It doesn't seem right
when there's that little dark figure running. Won't somebody help me?"
-------------
A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
|
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 11:34
These days I mainly just talk to plants and dogs All human contact seems painful, risky, odd So I stay acting god in my own universe Where I trade cigarettes in return for songs
|
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 12:10
Hi,
Where do the actors go? After the show ...
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
|
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 12:23
Stub towers in the distance Riders cross the blasted moor Against the horizon Fickle promises of treaty Fatal harbingers of war, futile orisons Swirl as one in this flight, this mad chase This surge across the marshy mud landscape Until the meaning is forgotten Hood masks the eager face, skin stretched and sallow Headlong into the chilling night, as swift as any arrow
Feet against the flagstones Fingers scrabbling at the lock Craving protection 'Sanctuary!' croaks a voice Half-strangled by the shock of its rejection Shot the bolt in the wall, rusted the key; Now the echoes of all frightful memory Intrude in the silence What a crawl against the slope - dark loom the gallows One touch to the chapel door, how swiftly comes the arrow
"Compassion" you plead As though they kept it in a box - That's long since been empty I'd like to help you somehow But I'm in the self-same spot: My condition exempts me We are all on the run, on our knees; The sundial draws a line upon eternity Across every number How long the time seems, how dark the shadow How straight the eagle flies, how straight towards his arrow How long the night is - why is this passage so narrow? How strange my body feels, impaled upon the arrow
Not many artists where the answer could be the entire lyric to a song. In VdGG's case there are multiple songs I could have chosen for the same treatment. I think Hammill has few peers as a lyricist - in their different ways Becker/Fagen and Cohen, but who else, really?
------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile
|
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 12:43
^ same here.
What a crawl against the slope Dark loom the gallows One touch to the chapel door, How swiftly comes the arrow!
-------------
|
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 15:30
I prophesy disaster wrote:
My favourite VdGG lyric is my signature ("I was thinking about thinking but it really didn't get me very far.") | So I thought I'd throw a Tarot but I only got the Priestess and the Star...-needs to be added imo. Don't really have a favorite but I think his songwriting skills peaked lyrically ca. 1973-1975 but but he's great both before and after of course.
|
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 19:52
At the moment,
"That the lady with the skin so white Like something out of Blake or Burne-Jones Always blocked out the light And shadowed all you owned"
from When She Comes (too many to choose from though).
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
|
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 22:56
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I prophesy disaster wrote:
My favourite VdGG lyric is my signature ("I was thinking about thinking but it really didn't get me very far.") | So I thought I'd throw a Tarot but I only got the Priestess and the Star...-needs to be added imo. |
For me personally, no, because I've actually tried to think about thinking and it really didn't get me very far.
------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man.
|
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 06:11
I prophesy disaster wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I prophesy disaster wrote:
My favourite VdGG lyric is my signature ("I was thinking about thinking but it really didn't get me very far.") | So I thought I'd throw a Tarot but I only got the Priestess and the Star...-needs to be added imo. |
For me personally, no, because I've actually tried to think about thinking and it really didn't get me very far. | I once threw a tarot and it really didn't get me very far
|
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 06:12
"The killer lives inside me: I can feel him move" So many amazing lyrics in VdGG. Pawn Hearts, Godbluff, and Still Life are all treasure chests full of wonderous lyrics. I agree with Larkstongue41, Still Life is a beautifully dark track lyrically - "though you're ultimately bored by endless ecstasy" - wow, what insight!
------------- Songs cast a light on you
|
Posted By: TiddK
Date Posted: August 08 2018 at 05:19
West is where all days will someday end; Where the colours turn from grey to gold, And you can be with the friends. And light flakes the golden clouds above all; West is Mike and Susie, West is where I love.
(from 'Refugees' on The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other)
|
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 08 2018 at 05:39
Most of my lyrical favourites written by Peter Hammill are on the two strongest in between VdGG 1 & 2 era solo albums The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage and In Camera... I have no problem with his earlier lyrics but still think he grew immensely from 1971 to 1974... so anything on Godbluff comes closest. I don't really have an absolute favorite though. Its more of an approach.
|
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: September 02 2018 at 18:09
I quite love the lyrics of White Hammer, Refugees, and many others. Emperor in His War Room is brutal
------------- “War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
|
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 03 2018 at 05:03
VdGG : Undercover Man (Godbluff) Solo: Time Heals (Over)
|
Posted By: Tero1
Date Posted: September 03 2018 at 06:59
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I quite love the lyrics of White Hammer, Refugees, and many others. Emperor in His War Room is brutal |
Not really a big fan, so I only reacall a few songs well. Those two are ones that come to mind. I think I have two albums and one compilation. I often play them without much thought.
|
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 03 2018 at 07:37
I have a tendency to ignore lyrics but even I realise that there's so much in many of Peter's lyrics.
Pretty keen - yes, my hobby keeps me busy
And if I talk to myself, what's the crime?
In the darkroom I am a dealer in space and time...
When all memory is mellowed,
When the photograph is yellowed,
Still it never lies. There you are, your eyes laced with secret pleasure,
Saying that you're on the way to change,
Devouring in inordinate measure
Every diversion that's arranged.
For every appetite, a cruel attraction,
But there's a panic in your actions...
Oh, I never saw you look so strange. Fixing memory chemically,
Holding time on the stop-clock,
Hanging back from that last frame
Just in case it didn't show you
In the way I used to know you...
I thought you'd always stay the same.
(But you won't.) Oh, the red light, the silver, the black and the bromide;
The silence, the waiting for overview...
The past seems under-exposed, low tide,
But still the images ghost through.
And you're there in the bath,
Which is all this has led to,
And I can't say your path
Is a right one to choose... But then I only have a negative of you.
|
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: September 03 2018 at 13:23
Tero1 wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I quite love the lyrics of White Hammer, Refugees, and many others. Emperor in His War Room is brutal |
Not really a big fan, so I only reacall a few songs well. Those two are ones that come to mind. I think I have two albums and one compilation. I often play them without much thought. |
I suggest you check them out. They grow on you
------------- “War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
|
|