Backwards
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Topic: Backwards
Posted By: Joren
Subject: Backwards
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 10:03
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I just discovered a new tool on my PC: how to play music backwards. So: could you name some pieces of music in which there's a "backwards message" or something like that. |
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 10:24
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Look what I found: http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm - http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm complete with audio fragments! |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 13:40
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Interesting site. However, they missed the best one. I believe it is between "Piggies" and "Blackbird" on the White Album. Here, there is no question that the message was deliberately recorded backwards, because it is complete gibberish when played forwards. When played forwards, it sounds like John is saying, "mzzmzzmzzm." When played backwards, the unmistakable line is "Paul is dead, miss him, miss him, miss him." By the way, regarding many of the ones on the site, it is, of course, entirely possible that some, if not most, of these are complete accidents; i.e., the power of suggestion, mixed with "sound chains." After all, I seriously doubt that George Harrison sat there before writing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" and said, "Gee, I'd like to have the line 'pass the gun now, it kills the love, the love is cold' come out backwards when I record the song. What would I have to say to make that happen? Oh, yes, all I have to do is say, "while my guitar gently weeps." Please! Peace. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 14:26
Yes, many of the examples seemed very farfetched and silly... 
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 14:41
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I think Pink Floyd has a few of those. For instance, on Empty Spaces.. the backwards message is .. "Congratulations, you have found the secret message, send your reply care of Old Pink at the funny farm, Chamflont......Roger, Caroline is on the phone. " ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 16:53
------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
threefates wrote:
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 22:34
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It's really really hard to do things that are listenable when played backwards. Anyone else a fan of "Twin Peaks"? That poor little person literally had to learn his lines backwards and forwards! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 05 2004 at 23:39
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Many of this examples are speech reversals, as the site explains this cases are natural, there's no intention to do it. One of this cases is the one mentioned about STYX, they were accused for the song Snowblind, when their intention wasn't to hide any message, so they decided to hide a message in the album Kilroy Was Here, specificly at the beggining of the song Heavy Metal Poisoning. A track that precisely makes fun of fanatism against music. If you listen to the track, you will hear a noice that can't be understood, but if you play it backwards they say "Annuit Coeptis - Novus Ordo Seclorum" , some fundamentalist groups used this back recording to accuse the band again, but they never took the time to check the one dollar bill, this phrase appears surrounding the pyramid in the back:
Something that kids learn at school. Iván |
Posted By: Aquarius
Date Posted: July 06 2004 at 01:13
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When I was at school we had this lecture about reversed words in songs. Somebody played us a tape with lots of examples like Queen's "Another one bites the dust" which sounds like "Start to smoke mariuhana". I seriously believe some artists experimented with this reverse technique. It was all the rage at some time. But I don't think anyone was influenced by these messages. ------------- Download 6 min. TRAILER (10 excerpts) of our upcoming concept album at http://www.silentagreement.nl - http://www.silentagreement.nl |
Posted By: Gog/Magog
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:54
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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 15:33
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This is also called Backmasking. Here are quite a few to chase down; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_message - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward_message Good luck, let us know what you find out! ------------- Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks." |
Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 15:34
oot em ------------- Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks." |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 16:15
Are you referring to the track Revolution 9? I don't think Piggies and Blackbird have backward tracked sections. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 16:26
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I think the bit maani is referring to is actually between "I'm so tired" and "Blackbird". I does sound a bit like "miss him, miss him". My feeling is that it's not backwards, it's just John mumbling, but I could be wrong. Anyway, it became part of the ridiculous (but fascinating) "Paul Is Dead" rumour thing. |
Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 16:29
| Try "Ya Hozna" from the Frank Zappa album Them Or Us. The entire lyric is backward. |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:05
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For 30 years, I've tried to figure out the final bit of "Time to Kill" off Horslips' brilliant album, The Tain. It sounded obviously Gaelic, but try as I might, I couldn't get the translation (I speak some Scots Gaelic, but Irish is pretty close). Last year, I visited their mandolin/fiddle virtuoso Charles O'Connor at his shop in Whitby and asked him what it meant. He told me it was simply the lyric recorded backwards. 30 years barking up totally the wrong tree! |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:10
I never learned about that! The empty spaces one is hillarious, as is the Britney Spears one. -------------  
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 17:31
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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 18:00
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Try this website:
http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm - Jeff Milner's Backmasking Site There is some backward tracking stuff. You can listen to part of a song with the lyrics and then you can listen to reversed track with lyrics you supposed to hear. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know... Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul... |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 18:33
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Oh, right, I know what you're referring to. No I don't think that's backward tracking, that's just John ending his "I'm So Tired" tirade. I would be extremely surprised to find out that that is backward tracked tape. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 19:35
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Doesnt Hit me baby one more time backwards say Sleep With Me Im Not To Young ------------- true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants. 
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Posted By: Space Chief
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 19:42
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That Pokemon Rap one is truly awesome. ------------- 
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 22:10
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http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm - http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm Here's some good examples, some ones are funny, others I cant understand it. BTW, There's somebody that realy send a message to Pink Floyd, if it happens, what s/he won? ------------- 
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Posted By: skyhawk
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 22:30
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 22:53
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Tangerine Dream around Force Majuere used backward masked messages for subliminal suggestion incase you were trippin! I forgot which Queen song has backmask on the intro. |
Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 27 2006 at 23:18
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Non- prog. Iron Maiden's Piece of Mind track, Still Life has overt backwards messages. ------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan ringed by ants and musing over man. |
Posted By: int_2375
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 01:18
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If you play Tool - Lateralus backwards during the part where he keeps saying "spiral out", he will still say spiral out... likely a coincidence, but it ties into the theme of the song... This is silly and I am by no means a fan of Eminem, but if you play one of his songs backwards where he says "My name is" it says, very clearly and obviously intentionally, "Its eminem, its slim shady". He obviously chose that name just so he could have that backwards message. Deep. My favorite controversial one is the Led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven, because its so long, and because of other things said in the forwards song, like "sometimes words have two meanings", and "theres still time to change the road your on"... it becomes Stairway to Hell... although I think its a coincidence. |
Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 28 2006 at 01:51
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Jethro Tull- Passion Play. If you play the album in reverse it actually sounds better. ------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan ringed by ants and musing over man. |
Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:00
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Anyone know what it says in a section of Shallow by Porcupine Tree from 2:55 - 3:00? I've tried to figure that out..... but I'm not too good at figuring things out. ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: ElwoodHerring
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:34
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"Silly Boys" by Klaatu - the whole song is backwards! ------------- [IMG]http://www.herring.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DRMkillb.JPG"> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4816930.stm - Right the Copyright Wrongs (Bill Thompson's BBC blog - essential reading!) |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:48
Ouch. ------------- My recent purchases: 
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Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: March 31 2006 at 16:50
Yeah, I'm sure that is just gibberish. Backwards speech has a very distinctive sound, and I hear that sound when I reverse the gibberish. John spoke gibberish all the time on recordings. ------------- My recent purchases:
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