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Topic: philosophy of selling off CDs
Posted By: hieronymous
Subject: philosophy of selling off CDs
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 08:59
So I have way more CDs than I have space. I've been buying less and less over the years, and have had major sell-offs a couple of times in my life (been fortunate not to have to move too much). 

SO: does anyone have any suggestions or philosophical approaches to deciding what to sell?

One thing I've heard is, if it's a common CD like AC/DC or Aerosmith then just sell it off - you will be able to buy it again later.

However, my musical tastes are such that I am searching out stuff that is fairly obscure - one thing I am searching for is intense musical passages that have that certain something, an x factor if you will, magic manifesting in sound. An example would be the first 20 minutes or so of Miles Davis's Agharta, or the guitar solo build-up in "We've got to live together" by Jimi Hendrix & the Band of Gypsies, or "Last Night" by Jukka Tolonen, or the odd-meter solo section in the middle of Steve Hillage's "Sun Song".

Of course, this conversation is moot if you only collect mp3s/other non-hardcopy digital formats. I guess I'm fairly old-school - I just prefer to listen to CDs than mp3s or YouTube. I like to dig out a CD and listen to it - right now I'm listening to Gong's Gazeuse - it has Pierre Moerlen jamming with Allan Holdsworth & Francis Moze of Magma - there is no way I would get rid of this, I listen to it every few years. On the other hand, I just pulled out my Ash Ra Tempel/Ash Ra collection (1st album, Inventions for Electric Guitar, New Age of Earth, Blackouts, Correlations), listened through some of it, and I think I'm going to sell them off to Amoeba Music, so that A) I can get trade and get something else, and B) so that someone else can experience this music and hopefully connect with something in it.

OK, enough of my yackin' - any thoughts?




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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 09:19
You'll make so few money that anyway it would feel better - the soul, not the pocket - making a donation to a local institution/public library/youth shelter
(if we do it with spare clothes, furniture, toys, old appliances - I for once have this habit - why not with records?)


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 09:53
if you have a copy of Island-Pictures I will give you 10 bucks for it right now.


I guess that doesn't answer your philosophy question.  There IS a market for them, would be the main thing to come away from with that statement.


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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 10:10
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

You'll make so few money that anyway it would feel better - the soul, not the pocket - making a donation to a local institution/public library/youth shelter
(if we do it with spare clothes, furniture, toys, old appliances - I for once have this habit - why not with records?)


This^

Besides, you'd be doing your part to spread prog to people who would never seek it out otherwise...a truly noble undertaking.  The 1st time I ever heard a Zappa album was when I saw Studio Tan at my local library.  Dropped the needle on Greggary Peccary and that was it LOL


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 15:40
I try to not do this, unless I've accidently bought a dulipcate somewhere along the way. That said, I'm sure given what my tastes are now there are several things that I could part with and be ok with never hearing again. I just don't really want to take the time to go through everything. :p 

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 16:49
Originally posted by hieronymous hieronymous wrote:

 

Of course, this conversation is moot if you only collect mp3s/other non-hardcopy digital formats. I guess I'm fairly old-school - I just prefer to listen to CDs than mp3s or YouTube.

 

Obviously you can do as you like, but I wonder whether your dislike of "non-hardcopy" is based on lack of information.
I have put all my CDs in flac format on a Vortexbox.
https://www.vortexbox.co.uk/
flac is lossless and there is no reason (at least not for the ears) that this should be any worse than CDs. I'm in the process of giving away all my CDs (I still occasionally buy some if I can't find flac and don't want lossy mp3, but after they're on the box, the hard copy can go, too). All the sentimental storytelling of what you have recently dug out and what you listen to every year... it's all the same on hard disk.

Of course the CD has a booklet and you can touch it, fair enough if that's what you're after, but for me music is for the ears.



Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 17:13
Originally posted by hieronymous hieronymous wrote:

One thing I've heard is, if it's a common CD like AC/DC or Aerosmith then just sell it off - you will be able to buy it again later.

This is a good guideline.

I suppose if you were to store every obscure record you own on an alternate medium and then got rid of all your CDs, that would be just as good as keeping the hard copy.   But I'd advise against it--  there is something to be said for real things that exist externally.




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Posted By: hieronymous
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 17:21
Thanks for the replies so far - I think this thread could be worthwhile if others find themselves in a similar situation to me.

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

You'll make so few money that anyway it would feel better - the soul, not the pocket - making a donation to a local institution/public library/youth shelter 
(if we do it with spare clothes, furniture, toys, old appliances - I for once have this habit - why not with records?)


This^ 

Besides, you'd be doing your part to spread prog to people who would never seek it out otherwise...a truly noble undertaking.  The 1st time I ever heard a Zappa album was when I saw Studio Tan at my local library.  Dropped the needle on Greggary Peccary and that was it LOL

I am fortunate to live in the San Francisco Bay Area, so I generally just go to Amoeba. Even if I only get $100, it allows me to pick up a few CDs that I've been on the hunt for (if there are any). Of course I'm getting much less than I paid for them, but I'm still not spending yet more money, it lets me kind of float along - like I said before, I buy a lot less music these days. 

The idea to donate the CDs is an interesting one - if CDs were still the main format then I could see it, but I think there's too much of a chance that they wouldn't be valued. Of course, I can't control that, but putting them back into the system of used CDs at Amoeba greatly increases the chances that they will get to someone who will really appreciate them. 

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by hieronymous hieronymous wrote:

 

Of course, this conversation is moot if you only collect mp3s/other non-hardcopy digital formats. I guess I'm fairly old-school - I just prefer to listen to CDs than mp3s or YouTube. 

 

Obviously you can do as you like, but I wonder whether your dislike of "non-hardcopy" is based on lack of information. 
I have put all my CDs in flac format on a Vortexbox.
https://www.vortexbox.co.uk/
flac is lossless and there is no reason (at least not for the ears) that this should be any worse than CDs. I'm in the process of giving away all my CDs (I still occasionally buy some if I can't find flac and don't want lossy mp3, but after they're on the box, the hard copy can go, too). All the sentimental storytelling of what you have recently dug out and what you listen to every year... it's all the same on hard disk.

Of course the CD has a booklet and you can touch it, fair enough if that's what you're after, but for me music is for the ears.

I have definitely not moved beyond CDs & mp3s. Part of my problem is that I've just been using iTunes since the first iPod, so my iPhone is my only portable music player, and you have to import the music to the computer that you are using to sync with your phone - but my computer has very little memory! My system disk gets full within a day and I have to restart the computer, so I can't be loading tons of music back and forth to my phone - so I'm just sticking with CDs for now. 

It's funny, I just prefer selecting a CD and committing to it. It isn't tied into some kind of natural representation of music, it's totally arbitrary to the format (similar to tapes or records though) - I think the vast abyss of a hard drive with days or weeks worth of music just turns me off. It's connected to two experiences I've had - 1) walking around Kyoto with an early iPod with a day's worth of music and not finding anything I wanted to listen to! And 2) a friend who anytime an album comes up he says "Oh I have that, I got it for free of the internet, I have a hard drive with x amount of music that I got for free." So weird, the possession and consumption of music but with the music itself devalued to a mere object. I'm not saying that's what you do, but that's how it feels for me.


Posted By: hieronymous
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 17:31
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by hieronymous hieronymous wrote:

One thing I've heard is, if it's a common CD like AC/DC or Aerosmith then just sell it off - you will be able to buy it again later.

This is a good guideline.

I suppose if you were to store every obscure record you own on an alternate medium and then got rid of all your CDs, that would be just as good as keeping the hard copy.   But I'd advise against it--  there is something to be said for real things that exist externally.


Was writing when you posted. I do have thoughts on this - I'm listening to my Offering box set, trying to decide if I let it go. Haven't listened to it in at least 7-8 years - I really like Magma so this is part of that mode of buying everything I could get my hands on. I think I had a couple of them as individual CDs, but sold those when I got this. There are definitely songs on here that are 100% keepers, like Earth from the first album - I forgot how much Zeuhl & Kobaian stuff there is on here! My memory is that it's more jazz and has more "happy" melodic stuff but there is darkness and mystery too! I could go through and just save the tracks I like, but this set is just too cool to let go of, so I'm keeping it - for now at least!



Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 17:55
Oh keep that puppy.   It's just ... nice, and could become an heirloom.



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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 18:11
Hey there! Looks like we're neighbors as i'm a Bay Area dweller as well :)

I'm in the same boat. I have well over 10,000 CDs in one room and i'm actually quite overwhelmed (in a good way :)

I will not get rid of any of them, in fact i feel the gravitational pull of any music store i approach and if i dare go in always walk out with more than i wanted to spend :o

I recommend keeping them for a couple of reasons. First of all, they are worth something or if not will be one day. So in effect they are an investment. Sure you can jettison your Alanis Morrissette or Paula Abdul because you can always find those at the thrift store but i made the mistake of getting rid of a great number of cassettes for the same reasons and now i regret it mostly because some were never released on CD.

CDs are superior to YouTube, MP3 or almost every other technology for my liking. They are easily ripped onto a hard drive and i keep all mine because of the fact that hard drives fail! We are also expereriences heightened sun activity and when the major solar flares predicted in the next few years finally deposit their radition in full fiery display on the earth, it is well within the reality that ALL hard drives on Earth could be fried. I therefore have made myself a sort of Noah's Ark for music LOL

I would love to own about 100,000 more actually but i had to put the breaks on recently because i've run out of room as well. I would recommend storing them before getting rid of them but it really depends if you need the $$$ or not. Amoeba used to be a good place to sell but they don't pay crap any longer. Ebay or Discogs is a better bet. I dunno. Got a list? Maybe i'd buy some!


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 18:27
It's true that hard disks fail (CDs fail, too!) and as a Vortexbox user I need to care about that. I have two backups of my collection on external drives, another backup is with a friend. Furthermore the Vortexbox can produce an MP3 image of everything (which in my case is about 100-150 GB so fits easily on any modern laptop and even on some smartphones these days - I only have about 1/10 of siLLy puPPy though); that should be safe enough. But I see that I'm not going to convince you...


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 18:41
Including myself, three of the seven posters are from the B.A.   Interesting.



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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 19:09
^ P.A. party at Atavachron's house! Do you have heated swimming pool? LOL
^ @Lewian... i've never had one single CD fail and don't know anyone else who has either (unless they leave it the sun or something) however EVERYONE i know has had a hard drive fail. The solar activities could wipe out the whole electrical grid on the planet. I'm not making this up. We will be soooooo f--ck--d!


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 19:16
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:


i've never had one single CD fail and don't know anyone else who has either

Now you do. I lost two or three. And no, it wasn't the sun.


Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 19:23
I too have lots of CDs. They take up so much room!

Umm, can you explain the bit about solar flares? What exactly is predicted to happen?


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 19:25
I've sold many in the past and each time regretted it some years later...had to bought them all again.

Not much space left either so i've decided to slow down for some time...must have bought a good 500 cds in the last five years (many orders still unopened) and i'll probably concentrate on these for the next couple of years.

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Posted By: Jzrk
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 19:28
It’s an interesting topic because agh older you get the more physical music you accumulate.
And if you are like most music lovers you are always seeking out new music and probably have a lot of cds that you may not have listened to in years.
So my take would be if you have time to sort out the ones that aren’t all that to you and sell them or donate them.
How many that is you won’t know until you do it.i have some cds that I now wonder why did I ever buy? Or maybe had one or two songs I liked and that’s it.No problem to give those up.I do not buy too many new cds but sometime will to support some artists and their labels.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 19:50
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ P.A. party at Atavachron's house! Do you have heated swimming pool? LOL

A pool in SF?   Unheard of.

I too have never had a CD "fail", though in the old days (read early 90s) they did have flaws now & then.   But no problems with any disc I've bought in the last ten years.




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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 20:35
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:


i've never had one single CD fail and don't know anyone else who has either

Now you do. I lost two or three. And no, it wasn't the sun.

Well, losing them isn't THEIR fault! Write it down where you left them LOL

Seriously, what happened?


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 20:41
Originally posted by Walkscore Walkscore wrote:

I too have lots of CDs. They take up so much room!

Umm, can you explain the bit about solar flares? What exactly is predicted to happen?

A small article but hardly extensive

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-sun-just-spat-out-the-most-enormous-flare-in-12-years" rel="nofollow - The Sun just erupted the biggest solar flare in 12 years and it has affected Earth

This is what is expected but worse due to our entire planet on electrical grids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859" rel="nofollow - Solar storm of 1859 - Wikipedia

I have watched a fair amount of discussion on the matter. It seems the sun is increasing its activity. WHile humankind gets the blame for global warming and climate change, it turns out that most of it is due to the sun's increase in energy output. Likewise the entire solar system is experiencing similar effects. Of course, we ARE making it worse with greenhouse effect gasses and the like.

From what i've heard, the consensus is that in the next ten years we are very likely to experience some of the worst sun activity in modern ages. It will have numerous negative consequences regarding not only our electronics but also will play a role in major droughts and all the usual doomsday effects.

On the bright side, some say it will trigger our DNA to evolve into the next stage of evolution. If that's true, i guess i can give up my smart phone LOL


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 28 2018 at 20:42
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ P.A. party at Atavachron's house! Do you have heated swimming pool? LOL

A pool in SF?   Unheard of.

I too have never had a CD "fail", though in the old days (read early 90s) they did have flaws now & then.   But no problems with any disc I've bought in the last ten years.



Ah, SF! I though Pearland was somewhere near Fremont LOL


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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 02:15
I've sold off about 80% of my CD collection from 2005-2011. All I keep and collect now are progressive bands exclusively. Trim the fat, as I say.

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 02:45
Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

You'll make so few money that anyway it would feel better - the soul, not the pocket - making a donation to a local institution/public library/youth shelter
(if we do it with spare clothes, furniture, toys, old appliances - I for once have this habit - why not with records?)
Usually you'll make at least slightly more than what you've paid for them unless you've paid more than what they're worth.



Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 04:55
I took the FLAC road some time ago, now my "shelf" space is measured in TB Geek
(If anything, I would go back to vynil, not to CD - I miss the physical / graphical richness of  old)


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 05:24
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:


i've never had one single CD fail and don't know anyone else who has either

Now you do. I lost two or three. And no, it wasn't the sun.

Well, losing them isn't THEIR fault! Write it down where you left them LOL

Seriously, what happened?

These CDs developed flaws and they were getting worse to the point that they were effectively unlistenable. Somebody wrote that they haven't seen this kind of thing in the last ten years and actually I think mine were longer ago. Hard disks become better, too, though; most bad issues with HDs I've seen are also 10+ years in the past or with HDs that were very old; but of course I know that it can still happen (and I make provisions). I don't really buy that sun activity will kill all hard disks and if it does, humankind may have other things to worry about first - but I know it's at my own peril.

(Actually now that we're talking about this, I also remember that I literally lost the odd one, which isn't their fault but won't happen easily with my hard disk. Wink)


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 08:34
^ you were very unlucky then. Out of my thousands of CDs never one problem except scratches which is user error :)

The sun killing hard drives is a theory of course but a very likely one based on previous sun activities. It's basically planning for the worst case scenario. I hope they are wrong but one never knows. These events are well documented along with the aftermath


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 11:44
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:


The sun killing hard drives is a theory of course but a very likely one based on previous sun activities. It's basically planning for the worst case scenario. I hope they are wrong but one never knows. These events are well documented along with the aftermath

"very likely based on previous sun activities" - this is surprising and doesn't sound quite true. I don't remember any big loss of HDs as a result of sun activities in the past. A "worst case scenario" is not normally a likely one. "These events are well documented along with the aftermath" - sun activity yes, but resulting HD loss??


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 18:23
^ i've listened to a ridiculous amount of lecturing about it. I'm not here to convince you of anything. If you feel inspired then you will seek out more info. I've heard more than enough to convince me. What's coming is expected to be a 250,000 year event. Keep in mind that governments and corporations don't want us to know about these things so you have to dig below the surface to find these things.

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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 19:04
^I would say the over simplified "Fear = profit" equation would lead governments and corporations to play up the possibility.  Especially a scenario that would lead to consumers storing backups of backups of backups in lead lined vaults miles beneath the Earth and sea, custom detailed for the purveyor of elegance and prestige in data recovery enterprises

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 20:55
^ well, according to many whistleblowers involved in secret government programs, that is exactly what the elites of the world have done. Namely, build underground cities where they can whether the solar storms. The reason it's not disclosed is indeed because of the fear and panic it would cause which would destroy the economy which they have a stranglehold on at the moment. While the true scope of the solar activities are unprecedented and we can really only speculate, i've heard enough that i certainly don't want to get rid of my CDs in case my harddrives bit the dust in the aftermath. Plus i looooove the artwork and linernotes and all that good old fashioned plastic jewel case! Big smile

Oh BTW these powerful elites have other ways to stir up consumption habits. It's all a big game and we're the prey Ouch


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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 22:25
I like CDs...you can hold them...I don't trust hard drives in relation to longevity...even though early CDs have a similar notoriety.

I have this theory that CDs will bounce back as collectable again in a decade or so....just like vinyl did. I am probably wrong! But if cassette tapes are supposedly back (which is a nonsense) then CDs should be (back, that is) in a few years.

Who knows, Minidisc might also be in for a revival!!



Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: January 29 2018 at 22:33
I, too, am in the Bay Area! LOL

I've actually been wondering how to go about this, myself.  Since last summer, I've started collecting vinyl, instead, as my primary format choice.  And so I now have a lot of cds that I have on vinyl and really no use for, since they've all been transferred to my iTunes library.  Just a bunch of dead weight that I wouldn't mind parting with, save for hard to find or special albums.


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 06:35
^ Do you have lots of prog stuff?

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 06:42
I've been thinking about either selling or giving away some of the old cds I bought back when I was a young whippersnapper with, apparently, poor taste in metal and rock. The 90s gave us a lot of great music...but man they also sucked big time! Nu-metal and rap rock outside of Rage Against The Machine was almost unbearable...yet I still picked up quite a few albums. Why? Because of chicks. Yep I was that impressionable. That is also why I still got a New Kids On The Block cassette.


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 06:45
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Why? Because of chicks. Yep I was that impressionable. That is also why I still got a New Kids On The Block cassette.

I hope that cassette got you some sweet sweet lovin'...you deserved it!


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 06:54
I was about 8 so no sadly no poontang in sight
I once got a very wet French kiss after popping on Ace Of Base's undying classic 'I Saw The Sign'. Must've been 12.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 07:49
^ I have a good collection of cheesy pop. I have a New Kids On The Block album, Papa Roach etc. Not that i listen to them but i like having them in case i want to scare away guests! LOL

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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 08:05
LOL Let's enjoy it while it last, solar storms or not (in the end we'll all be dead...eventually Shocked)


Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 08:15
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ I have a good collection of cheesy pop. I have a New Kids On The Block album, Papa Roach etc. Not that i listen to them but i like having them in case i want to scare away guests! LOL

There's a collaboration that sadly never came to pass. 


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 08:33
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I was about 8 so no sadly no poontang in sight
I once got a very wet French kiss after popping on Ace Of Base's undying classic 'I Saw The Sign'. Must've been 12.
 
TMI


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 08:38
Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ I have a good collection of cheesy pop. I have a New Kids On The Block album, Papa Roach etc. Not that i listen to them but i like having them in case i want to scare away guests! LOL

There's a collaboration that sadly never came to pass. 

Well, it's never too late. None of them have overdosed on anything yet as far as i know LOL


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 08:39
Heh...I had to look up that acronym
Anyway my apologies. I will never mention Ace Of Base on PA again.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 08:55
Regarding selling cd's......unless you have some obscure and rare prog, folk,  or jazz ,no one really wants them.
I've tried to sell mainstream stuff and my friend Bill gets very little for the classic rock he sells online at e-bay etc.
I have a fair amount of obscure prog and psych on cd and I have no intention of getting rid of them.....they are too hard to replace in many cases and I certainly can't afford the vinyl on most of them.


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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:25
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I was about 8 so no sadly no poontang in sight

I'd forgotten how young you'd be when New Kids were having their moment.

When I was eight the only record I had was Puff the Magic Dragon. The finer points of this tale of Jackie Rolling Paper and his psychoactive friend were wasted on me at the time.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:29

Puff was a big thing somewhere around 1988. I didn't pick up on the "deeper" meaning either.

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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:33
Too busy buying CDs to think about selling them.

Back in the day my cast off CDs, vinyl and cassettes went to the local charity shops. Hope someone is enjoying those Chris de Burgh albums

Don't get me started on the entire box of eighties metal LPs that my mother gave away without asking me a few years after I left them with her for 'safekeeping'. All my thrash albums and even the Celtic Frost Tragic Serenades EP gone forever

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:39
I bet you could sell those bad boys now and probably have enough dough to buy a small island somewhere Old metal lps (and cds for that matter) are highly sought after these days.

I have a bunch of old Metallica rarities on cd. I should probably sell them...but a part of me wants to wait and see how much the prizes go up in say a decade. If I'm lucky I will be buying Madagascar (and some Stax headphones of course).

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 09:48
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Regarding selling cd's......unless you have some obscure and rare prog, folk,  or jazz ,no one really wants them.
I've tried to sell mainstream stuff and my friend Bill gets very little for the classic rock he sells online at e-bay etc.
I have a fair amount of obscure prog and psych on cd and I have no intention of getting rid of them.....they are too hard to replace in many cases and I certainly can't afford the vinyl on most of them.


These things go in cycles. Those who were hip in the 80s bought up prog albums from the 70s dirt cheap. Today those dollar albums are worth hundreds and thousands

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 13:06
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Too busy buying CDs to think about selling them.

Back in the day my cast off CDs, vinyl and cassettes went to the local charity shops. Hope someone is enjoying those Chris de Burgh albums

"Don't pay the hairyman!"


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Posted By: hieronymous
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 21:18
Glad to see this thread continue!

I revisited a CD that I thought I was going to sell - "Fusion" with Christian Vander, Jannik Top, etc. In other words, Magma folks doing fusion. When I first got it I think I listened to it once, and wasn't too impressed. But listening yesterday, I really dug it! It's staying. 

The Ash Ra Tempel stuff - I think it's gonna go. 

I'm going to let go of Soft Machine - Alive and Well - the live album after Mike Ratledge left - I love John Marshall/Karl Jenkins-era Soft Machine but this one just doesn't make the cut. 

I don't really have a problem selling stuff to Amoeba - I could maybe try and get a little more via eBay but it's not really worth it to me. One time I sold off a bunch of stuff and got something like $500 in store credit! That let me buy stuff that I was searching for for a while without having to give up any cash. I'm also much pickier about what I get - when I was in grad school I lived in Berkeley and worked across the street from Amoeba and anytime I went in there I could find something to buy - I don't do that anymore!


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 30 2018 at 22:44
^ That's exactly why i can't let anything go anymore. I can't tell you how many times i've listened to something and it did absolutely nothing for me, placed it on the shelf for years and then only to discover it was absolutely brilliant! Of course this doesn't happen all the time. It does happen the other way around as well :P

As far as going to Amoeba, when i go in and tell myself i'm only going to buy one thing is like an alcoholic going to a New Year's party and saying they'll only have one beer. I literally feel the endorphins surging when i'm around so much music. The disc start singing to me and voices emerge saying "buy me!"

I always listen but at least i don't do what the Rice Krispies tell me any longer Clown


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 09:57
Never heard of Amoeba record store in LA before....looked it up online...wow ..what a place. 
Almost makes me want to get on a plane and go.
The last interesting place I was at was Electric Fetus in Minneapolis.
http://www.electricfetus.com/

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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 10:04
Hey Doc, my son dragged me to the one in San Francisco. Wild place, more like a head shop, if you know what I mean. I think I liked it for all the wrong reasons! Wink

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 10:22
^ Definitely an old time head shop/record store.....loved it...reminded me of IU Bloomington back in the college days in the early 70's.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 10:51
@Dr Wu.... i was in LA a couple months back and went to that Amoeba Records in Hollywood. It blows away the ones in the Bay Area. It is huuuuuuuuuuuge! Probably one of the largest record stores left in the country perhaps.

@Steve.... yeah, the two Amoebas in the Bay Area have been wise as to ride the bandwagon into the legalization of cannabis. The one in SF issues medical cards (not sure if this will continue now that recreational marijuana use has been approved by the voters) and the one in Berkeley is an actual dispensery. I told them that they were brilliant! Get everyone stoned next to a music store! Genius!!!! LOL


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 11:45
^  Yes, the Bay area! Still progressive and  psychedelic! Smile

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Posted By: hieronymous
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 12:02
Yeah, the SF & Berkeley stores are local to me, but the Hollywood store is kind of a pilgrimage site for me - any time I am down there I try and stop by. I have found stuff there that I have been searching for for years, and also found stuff that I didn't even know I was looking for!


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 31 2018 at 16:08
I haven't been to Amoeba Hollywood in years. I need to rectify that. 

For fans of AH, a bit of bad news: in a few years, it won't be there. Meaning on the Sunset Strip. The owners sold the land (don't ask why/how, it's beyond me), and the current owners of the property want to build on the plot. The owners of AH say that they'll just "move to a new location in Hollywood/LA."

Which is ridiculous. AH and its unique façade have attained an iconic regard in SoCal. It's in a prime location. Unless they were to relocate to, say, the former-and-still-unused Tower Sunset store, I don't see how AH will withstand a move and sustain its viability and reputation. Really unfortunate. They should have thought about is so more before accepting the big check that landed in front of them.


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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: February 01 2018 at 18:17
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ Do you have lots of prog stuff?

I have a decent amount.  Some I'll definitely keep, others I could easily part with now that I'm past my "all prog or nothing" phase and I bought a lot of crap. LOL  I guess it depends on the rarity of some of them, too.


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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 02 2018 at 02:19
I offloaded a ton of discs to BAM and FYE several years ago. I made out pretty well. I've never sold anything near and dear to me, just mostly bulk metal and rock.

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