Canterbury/Kraut
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Topic: Canterbury/Kraut
Posted By: Yanns
Subject: Canterbury/Kraut
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 19:41
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Shockingly, I am seriously lax in these two areas of prog. I've been looking around the website a lot recently for good places to start, but I figured I'd ask on the forum before I actually started in. As for Canterbury, I guess I'm most interested in Caravan and Soft Machine. I don't know, something about the bios and works of these two bands appeal to me. For Kraut, I'm really in the dark. Can, Neu!, Amon Duul II, I really don't know. You just tell me what you think here. Thank you! |
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 20:02
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of Canterbury I recommend the following: Gong - "You" National Health - "Of Queues and Cures" Egg - "The Civil Surface" Matching Mole - "Little Red Record" Hatfield and the North - "Hatfield and the North" of Krautrock: Embryo - "Rocksession" Can - "Soon Over Babaluma" Amon Düül 2 - "Tanz der Lemminge" Guru Guru - "Känguru" Ash Ra Tempel - "Join Inn" these 10 albums are good starters -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 21:03
Can't go wrong with those choices, although you may want to add Soft Machine's Third and/or Vol. 1 and 2. Also, I might choose Angel's Egg over You, but both are great. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
BaldJean wrote:Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 22:11
OK. Glad either Jean or Friede came through with the Kraut suggestions, seeing as I know they are the Kraut lovers/experts here. 
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 22:31
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My Canterbury Picks: Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You and In The Land of Grey and Pink I can't recommend anything for Kraut Rock because I personally have not developed a taste for it, sorry, but I hope my Canterbury picks help a bit. ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 06:15
rather strange; there are a lot of similarities between Canterbury and Kraut. perhaps you just listened to the wrong Kraut albums ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 06:19
I gave these albums a couple of spins and just couldn't get into them at all: Can - Tago Mago and Future Days Not sure why I can't get into them. ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 06:57
not exactly the best start; you hit on 2 of the most experimental albums ("Faust IV" and "Tago-Mago") and one that is not representative at all. of Kraan you should have listened to the 1975 live album; one of the best live albums of all time. Andy Nogger is not bad, but not one of their best albums. "Tago Mago" is definitely not the right introduction to Can; try "Soon Over Babaluma"; when you have listened to that and liked it (which I am sure you will), you can work your way towards more experimental Can. Faust are one of the most extreme Krautrock bands; definitely not my choice for first listening to this genré. try the 5 albums I listed in my advice; they give a good overview of Krautrock for a start (although there is a LOT more) ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 07:04
Thank you, I appreciate the advice. ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 16:21
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What are Khan like?? ------------- 
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 07 2005 at 17:13
Awesome, highly recommended. Very underrated, containing the wonderful talents of Hillage and Stewart among others. It's very spacey  .------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 13:01
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Hillage rules!!! How long was his stint with Khan? -------------
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 16:49
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Khan was pretty short lived - just the one album. Space Shanty is good but I found it slightly disappointing when I finally heard it - I'd been expecting something that combined the best of Egg, Gong and Hillage's solo work. Solid 3.5 - 4 star stuff, but not quite the lost masterpiece it's sometimes made out to be. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 17:18
do you know Arzachel? also featuring Hillage and Stewart. they were around 18 or so when they recorded their only album ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 17:01
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Heard of them, but not yet bought their album. I shall one day though! I shall also look into buying "Space Shanty" -------------
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 06:35
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Heard of Arzachel - basically Uriel (the 4 piece which became Egg when Hillage left) recording under a pseudonym, but I've never actually heard the album. One that's on my wish list (all I need is a lot more money and the free time to enjoy it). ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 06:51
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the first 4 tracks are so-so, with "Azathoth" hinting at what is to
come. psychedelic music, nothing much out of the ordinary. the other 2
tracks (or side 2 on the orginal vinyl) are excellent though. there is
a nice little story Dave Stewart tells about this album. he said they
were improvising on the track "Metempsychosis"; they wanted to get 45
minutes of music on the album, so they all banged away on one chord for
about 5 minutes while staring at the wall clock all the time. it is a
funny exaggeration, and I really like that track, but one can hear what
he means when listening to it ("Metempsychosis" is a 16 minute track,
and the last 5 minutes are a little like Stewart describes; but it
works very well) oh, and you better have excellent bass boxes when listening to this album; the bass at the beginning of "Leg" and the bass solo in "Metempsychosis" are very trying on the stereo system ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 16:37
With you wrt the Kraan 1975 Live album - par excellence. However, in the last 3 years, when I asked the Kraut-rock expert Alan Freeman (Cosmic Egg's co-author) personally to recommend a Can album and he took me straight to Tago Mago - and I had no problems with it . (Indeed he's not the only one who has suggested starting with Tago Mago). He also suggest Kraan Live as their start point! My Krautrock start point in the early 70's was Amon Duul 2 Dance of The Lemmings - which much to my amazement was No 36 in the recent Mojo/Q prog top 40?? |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 18:22
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 18:25
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I have no idea why people recommend "Tago-Mago" as a start into
Krautrock; I honestly fear a track like "Aumgn" might alienate people
from Krautrock once and for all. it IS an excellent album, but definitely not for the newbies of Krautrock
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 18:23
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you should get these ones: -Ash Ra Tempel: Seven Up -Walter Wegmüller: Tarot (really great record!!!) -Wallenstein: Blitzkrieg (not exactly krautrock. but a great symphonic one) -Checkpoint Charlie: Frühling Der Krüppel (a very rare one) -Yatha Sidhra: A Meditation Mass -Sergius Golowin: Lord Krishna Von Goloka -Necronomicon: Tips Zum Selbstmord ------------------------------------------------- -Can: Future Days or Tago Mago -Neu!: Neu! -Faust: The Faust Tapes. Canterbury: (obviously:) -Matching Mole: Matching Mole -The Soft Machine: Vol. One and Third -Caravan: For Girls Who Grow Plump in The Night -Gong: Flying Teapot and maybe: -Henry Cow: Concerts or Leg End ------------- 
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