Warchild in the Gallery, Too Young to Die
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Topic: Warchild in the Gallery, Too Young to Die
Posted By: hegelec
Subject: Warchild in the Gallery, Too Young to Die
Date Posted: August 15 2017 at 23:21
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There's a list of Tull albums between TAAB and Songs from the Wood which each contain a few great tracks, but which on the whole leave me completely cold. So my friend and I set about to create the ultimate Jethro Tull fantasy album, by carefully selecting our favourite moments from this range of albums, sequencing them carefully (and occasionally editing them together continuously) and pressing the results onto two sides of imaginary wax. The product is here. (My friend deserves all of the credit for working the actual audio editing software.) We're pretty damn proud of the result. Would love to hear feedback from other members. TRACKLISTING: Minstrel in the Gallery Salamander (segue - interlude from Baker Street Muse) Overseer Overture Crazed Institution (20:10) Skating Away Forest Dance The Pig-Me and the Whore -- Crash Barrier Waltzer (Baker Street Muse edit) Forest Dance (Conclusion) Bungle in the Jungle Too Old to Rock and Roll (Too Young to Die) Only Solitaire (21:54) "Side A" winds down with "Crazed Institution" followed by a short pause, marking the flip. https://www.mixcloud.com/christianhegele/warchild-in-the-gallery-too-young-to-die-a-passion-play-jethro-tull-fantasy-album/" rel="nofollow - https://www.mixcloud.com/christianhegele/warchild-in-the-gallery-too-young-to-die-a-passion-play-jethro-tull-fantasy-album/
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Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: August 15 2017 at 23:30
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I can't seem to get a straight hyperlink to work here. But to clarify ... the mixcloud address is at the end of the lead post.
Also, we worked hard on nailing all the transitions, but the most satisfying for me is Skating Away into Forest Dance. I now can never unhear it this way. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 03:43
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MMMhhh!!!... We recently reassessed Tull's later 70's (and beyond) on another prog site... TBH, After TAAB, there is nothing I'd classify above three stars (yup, even SFTW and Heavy Whores Says   .Since this reassessment, personally, I tend to view APP better than before, despite that awful Hare interlude. But this album seems to function on two speeds: the acoustic (piano or guitar) stuff that repeats itself and the electric group participations (which are dynamic enough), but the sheer repetition of theses stages is tiresome. Unlike TAAB (which is THE awesomest album), I still don't understand its concept, and TBH, I won't try anymore. Difficult to cut a track/movement from the rest of the suite and put it down on a CD-r compilation, thpough. War Child's concept is just as blurry and there was little that was worthy enough tracks on the original albums. Some sduggest that the bonus tracks bettered the album, but TBH, I just see more of the same. From this album, I'll single out Back Door Angel (the only really good track) , the t/t and Bungle. From the bonus tracks, I could add Steakhouse and Glory Row (despite that stupid Hare-like interlude), but it's not like it's mandatory stuff. Minstrel in the Gallery is the only not-conceptual album in that era, but it is also rather over-rated, though it's understandable when you compare it to the albums surrounding it. It's also marred by the over-presence of the string arrangements (but that's valid for allTull albums from APP all the way to Storn Watch) and I don't find this album all that "folky" (acoustic yes, but folky, not that much) Outside the great Baker St Muse, I'll retain for my CD-r compilation Black Satin Dancer and Nothing At All, but that's about it. From the bonus tracks, the great Pan Dance is definitely an immediate inclusion as well, and and if I got space enough I could add Summerday Sands and Mad Scientist. TOTRnR's concept seems easier to grasp, but haven't got the patience for the music, soooooo I haven't had the courage (yet) to reassess it yet. Apparently there are clips accompanying the album on YT, but haven't been able to locate them. if anyone knows. Songs From the Wood: I find ut over-rated as well, but here is one of those albums that is seen as the typical blueprint prog folk example. The A-side is relatively poor (IMHO), with only Hunting Girl finding grace tfor my compilation... However the flipside is much better, with Velvet Green, Whistler and Pibroch. Maybe I will have space for Beltane as a wild card. Heavy Horses is also slitghly over-rated, but has a number of good tracks, like Mouse Police, Acres Wild, No Lullaby and The Rover. Broadford Bazaar is my joker, if I still had space. StormWatch is not over-rated and it's easy to understand why: the group is tired and it is producing l'album de trop, for whatever well-known reasons, but the band tries to mask that by some of the worse abuse of string arragements ever. North Sea Oil, Old Ghosts and Flying Dutchman are my picks. No wild card picks, though. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 06:09
| I understand what you are trying to do, I've tried if for a while as well, but these days, I prefer to listen to the albums as they are, and try to appreciate them for what they are, giving me a whole different perspective, instead of picking which songs are better than others. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 06:28
https://www.mixcloud.com/christianhegele/warchild-in-the-gallery-too-young-to-die-a-passion-play-jethro-tull-fantasy-album/" rel="nofollow - https://www.mixcloud.com/christianhegele/warchild-in-the-gallery-too-young-to-die-a-passion-play-jethro-tull-fantasy-album/
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hegelec wrote:Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 11:06
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I understand what you're saying Manuel. And I do that too. I mean, like, I did only that for 10 years. And I could just never shake the disappointment I'd inevitably feel. Part of the point of the project wasn't just to pick favourite songs, it was to sequence them into more or less a continuous-sounding whole. Which is why like the transitions are key.
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Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 11:08
How did you do that? I tried the hyperlink button in the formatting menu. I tried entering it in markup language <a href=""> neither of them worked. Thank yoU! ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 11:35
I'm just reviewing your comments in reverse order. Yeah Broadford Bazaar deserved to be on Heavy Horses more than about half the other tracks. It's a travesty it didn't make the cut. But for my money, clearly the highlight from this album is the title track itself. It's as dramatic as the best moments of Thick as a Brick, the concept of Ian Anderson as an old-timey Scots crofter is actually believable and totally works -- and the string arrangements manage to stay just shy of overbearing, possibly because they are also very dynamic, especially in the midsection. The videos that accompanied the tracks from Too Old to Rock and Roll can be found on Slipstream (which is the DVD component of the "A" rerelease). They post-date the album by a number of years. The history here is kind of hilarious, which is that Ian Anderson apparently tried to make a movie like 5 separate times between TAAB and the end of the decade ... finally succeeded with Slipstream -- which, being little more than middling concert footage interspliced with terrible music videos, is hugely disappointing. Minstrel is totally overrated. One big change I make, which is reflected in the mix above, would be to swap Cold Wind with Salamander from Too Old to Rock and Roll... it's basically the same song, without the regrettable hard rock stabs, and with better lyrics. I think you'll like way we put part of Baker Street Muse to work as a continuous segue between Salamander and Overseer Overture in the mix. It turned out shockingly well.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 17 2017 at 02:28
Ok, I can see I definitely had not grasped your original train of thought...  Yup, your montage sounds cool, though it's obvious there are sonic differences due to the different production. Indeed it's probably a better album than those mùid-70's Tull releases. Thx for Slipstream, I shall check that out, if I have not gotten rid of it (I seem to remember it was terrible) , but it was a stand-alone DVD, not the bonus A DVD disc. |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: August 17 2017 at 03:03
Sorry but as a Tull freak I cannot even imagine on what you are getting at. Very few tracks IMHO "leave me cold" except for a couple on Too Old. Most of those tracks you list I wouldn't have in my top 250 Tull tracks, let alone top 10. The only one in your list that is a masterpiece in my honest opinion is Minstrel. The albums from TAAB through to the end of the decade are all fine by me; I wouldn't have wanted anything else......except for a lot of ToTRnRtYtD. Only my opinion and am glad you mention Tull but I am scratching my head ...sorry. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 17 2017 at 05:56
I think you're saying it right away... You're a Tull-freak (fanboy) and therefore, you're not a discening person (you like almost everything) when it comes to the band's music.... (I'm not implying anything for discernment outside the Tulldom, btw  )  Though I'd say that the APP until SW string of album is anything but perfect, it's sill much superior to what the band has done in the 80's & the rest... Indeed (and first of all), the early 80's trimogy (A, TB&TB and UW) is definitely not good, and it's difficult to call them "a band" as the line-up kept changing. Tull is one of those band that tried hardest to adapt to the 80's and certainly the one that failed miserably (and still managed to survive)... But then again, I suspect you'll find redeemling qualitues to those three turds. Let's call this trilogy the "Anything Goes In Order To Survive" trilogy Later 80's albums (Knave, RI and Catfish - actually in the 90's) see Tull as a somewhat return to form, but let's face it, only a couple of tracks from knave would find space on an, album like Minstrel or SW: Freeway, Jump Start and of course Budapest... A little few over three albums, but still better than the zero tracks from their previous three albums. The last trilogy (RTB, .com and X-mas) is somewhat a bit better, though let's face it, only RTB is good, even if it runs out of steam midway through, and the eastern flute thing (learned on Ian's solo albums) wears thin fairly quickly. |
Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: August 18 2017 at 05:26
No need for the condescending post. I am extremely discerning when it comes to Tull and have been extremely critical of their music over the years...I dislike many, many tracks and a number of albums.... it's just that I like more than I hate and their 1969-1979 output....well it resonates with me as well as 100's of thousands of others. Having stated that Anderson has been largely embarrassing since 1990 and should have hung up the boots after Roots to Branches. The original post by hegelec is just referring to the 70s albums not anything later...not relevant to what you're banging on about in regard to '80s, 90s or later. I'll try and keep a low profile from now on and your response is why I hardly post anymore. Cheers |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 18 2017 at 15:53
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As you know warchild and too old were poppy soundtracks. A lot of the tracks aren't exactly Tull tracks. It's just Tull trying to make suitable music for a movie and play and also trying to please the critics. Tull are so much better than that though and you can hear it in the songs that were shelved all these years and not included on the albums. Below are the 74 and 76 albums that we probably would have had if the dumb critics didn't get to Ian after the very good A passion play album. The albums now have the proper Tull composition quality, Ian's real voice, martins real guitar, johns real piano and organ. The remixes have plenty of new gems and most of them are the best tracks Tull did those years Warchild Warchild March the mad scientist Good godmother Quartet Queen and country Skating away Saturation Glory row Paradise steakhouse Solitaire Rainbow blues 4.25 stars now, was 3.25 stars Too old Strip cartoon From a deadbeat Salamanders ragtime Pied piper Commercial traveller Salamander Big Dipper Small cigar(orchestral) Quiz kid Chequered flag 4 stars now was, 3 stars  Pity the band didn't release 2 albums in each year as planned. We got 1 soundtrack and 1 tull album worth from 74 and 1 soundtrack and half a tull album worth in 76. I would have rather the band had just recorded one proper album both years though rather than wasting time with soundtracks. The band ran out of time to record a few more songs for 76. If they did then I probably would have replaced Quiz kid and Big Dipper. Ian should have known better than to get sucked into dumb critics. We would have had an amazing run of Tull albums in that case. ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 18 2017 at 16:24
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Heavy horses is close to 5 stars. Kidding yourself if you don't rate it ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 18 2017 at 16:55
Ok, didn't mean to sound condescending, though you did open the door, and it was a bit too tempting, so my bad I've edited whatever I wrote past StormWatch, because indeed it's out of topic. Please notice that the OP only spoke of WC, MitG and TOtRnR, btw, I'm the one who extended the topic to the end of the decade |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 19 2017 at 11:44
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 Sean, you're nuts! SFTW is perfect from the very first note to the very last.------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 19 2017 at 14:06
of course I am  nuts      |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 19 2017 at 16:12
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Songs Songs from the wood Jack in the green Cup of wonder Hunting girl Solstice bells Old aces die hard The whistler Pibroch Fire at midnight 4.5 stars now, was 4.25 stars It was either velvet green or solstice which I wanted to replace. Velvet lost due to the over load of folk and medieval music on the album ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 19 2017 at 17:16
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So here's a summary. In with the tull songs and out with the pop non tull soundtrack songs. I'm opening the hidden bridge from the great 1970-73 period to the equally good 1977-1980 period. What looked like a crappy 1974-76 period is actually almost as good once you have all the songs. What do you think Trane? lol. You can take out Quartet from Warchild if you like  Warchild Warchild March the mad scientist Good godmother Quartet Queen and country Skating away Saturation Glory row Paradise steakhouse Solitaire Rainbow blues 4.25 stars now, was 3.25 stars Too old Strip cartoon From a deadbeat Salamanders ragtime Pied piper Commercial traveller Salamander Big Dipper Small cigar(orchestral) Quiz kid Chequered flag 4 stars now, was 3 stars Songs Songs from the wood Jack in the green Cup of wonder Hunting girl Solstice bells Old aces die hard The whistler Pibroch Fire at midnight 4.5 stars now, was 4.25 stars ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 20 2017 at 00:51
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OK, I'll play the way the thread is evolving (sounds like fun), keeping only on the memasters bonus choice (changes in italic) War Child 1. War Child (4:34) 2. Queen And Country (3:02) 16. Glory Row (3:35) 4. Back-Door Angels (5:29) 5. Sealion (3:38) 13. Paradise Steakhouse (4:03) 7. Bungle In The Jungle (3:37) 8. Only Solitaire (1:30) 9. The Third Hoorah (4:51) 10. Two Fingers (5:09) This would not really and most likely increase my rating of it, remaining at 3*.Not sure I would've revisited the album more often (which is once every two decades or so) Minstrel: 1. Minstrel In The Gallery (3:30) 9. March Of The Mad Scientist (1:40) 10. Pan Dance (3:22) 2. Cold Wind To Valhalla (4:21) 3. Black Satin Dancer (6:53) 8. Summerday Sands (3:44) 5. Nothing At All (4:39) 6. Baker St. Muse (16:42) 7. Grace (0:37) I'd most likely give it another halfstar, but I could do without the t/t alltogether as well (I've cut it in half for this exercice). Had this album been released this way from the start, I might have listened to it twice as much. SFTW: definitely replace the insufferable X-mas carol Solstice Bell with Beltane, might have me give it 3.5 instead of 3. Not sure it would've increased the number of listens I gave itover the decades. (I used to skip Solstice when listening to the vinyl and the CD anyways) HH: 1. ...And The Mouse Police Never Sleeps (3:13) 2. Acres Wild (3:26) 3. No Lullaby (7:55) 10. Living In These Hard Times (3:10) 11. Broadford Bazaar (3:40) 6. Rover (4:16) 7. One Brown Mouse (3:23) 8. Heavy Horses (8:59) 9. Weathercock (4:03) this could give it (maybe, another halstar). These changes would've definitely had me listen more often to side A (I often used to play only the flipside), but maybe not the overall amount of total spins Stormwatch: 1. North Sea Oil (3:11) 2. Orion (3:58) 11. A Stitch In Time (3:40) 4. Dark Ages (9:14) 12. Crossword (3:38) 6. Something's On The Move (4:27) 7. Old Ghosts (4:23) 8. Dun Ringill (2:42) 9. Flying Dutchman (7:45) 14. King Henry's Madrigal (3:01) This was maybe the toughest: I don't think my changes really better the album, but it does make livelier (harder rocking), but it still is marred by lack of inspiration, so my rating would remain the same and I don't think I'd have spinned it more either. Well, that was fun for a sunday morning |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: August 20 2017 at 03:28
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Good godmother and March the mad scientist(1974) are gems. What were you thinking trane? Surely godmother, saturation and rainbow blues are better than sealion, bungle, hoorah and two fingers ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 20 2017 at 07:32
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[QUOTE=Sean Trane]MMMhhh!!!... We recently reassessed Tull's later 70's (and beyond) on another prog site... TBH, After TAAB, there is nothing I'd classify above three stars (yup, even SFTW and Heavy Whores Says .yeah... I agree wholeheartedly with that assessment.. and the great John Mcferrin ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: August 22 2017 at 16:42
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https://www.amazon.ca/Slipstream-Jethro-Tull/dp/B00018ZRUY It was released this way, as a 2-disc set. A on CD and Slipstream on DVD. That's the only form I remember seeing Slipstream available. I found a rip of my old copy of the DVD on an old hard drive. I could upload it to OneDrive and pm you a download link. If you ever spent money on A, by my logic Ian owes you. But if you would rather pay for it, you can still buy the A CD and Slipstream bundle from Amazon for $10. Which is cheaper than a full-price DVD costs on its own. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 22 2017 at 17:44
What makes you think he's great? Is it his ability to type with his head up his ass? ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 06 2017 at 19:34
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Bungle is a flawless Tull track. Apart from the truly gobsmackingly excellent TAAB, Tull were at their very best doing art pop singles. That's why Living in the Past may be my favourite Tull album of all. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 06 2017 at 19:48
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I'll add something to the "overview" assessment of Tull that's been absent from the discussion so far: the early albums were better because Tull were still a legit band, composed of musos from the scene, who were led by Ian Anderson. Rather than the Ian Anderson orchestra ft. schoolboy chums and session players that Ian could boss around. Like, in a weird way, Tull's fate was sealed the day Mick Abrahams left, because the entire rest of the history of the band can be read along the narrative of Ian consolidating his power. It's no big surprise TAAB was the smashing success PP was not, because it was the last album Ian solicited significant assistance from his bandmates to stitch together the kernels of his song ideas into a coherent whole. The band dynamic is strong, with lots of fluid playing and spontaneity especially in the interlinking instrumental passages. John Evan in particular doesn't get his due in Tull-land: the interviews with the band (other than Ian) make clear that Evan was a driving force during much of the TAAB sessions. From PP onward, you get the sense that Ian is increasingly dictating the arrangement rather than deferring to the talents of his colleagues. And Tull's descent into mediocrity correlates directly with a band whose playing becomes progressively more mannered, eventually predictable, and individually less distinctive. |
Posted By: lostrom
Date Posted: September 07 2017 at 00:23
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Minstrel in the gallery is their best album. ------------- lostrom |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 07 2017 at 16:25
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respectfully disagree. it's the best album in a dark patch (post-TAAB pre-SFTW) but half the album bores the pants off me. Cold Wind to Valhalla was rewritten as the superior Salamander on the next album, Black Satin Dancer is a particularly embarrassing entry in the continuing Ian Anderson-as-leering-creep series, the acoustic tracks show admirable restraint and good taste but lack much of the sparkle and memorability of Aqualung-era equivalents, and Baker Street is an respectable last-stab at an extended suite with some excellent moments -- but my interest always wanes about 2/3 of the way through. So that essentially leaves the title track, which totally slays, and part of Baker Street Muse, and maybe Requiem, that I'd take to the vault. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: lostrom
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 03:21
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... then change pants, it's their best album. ------------- lostrom |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 14:18
you're right. now that I've changed into some linen hose and a cod piece, Minstrel sounds much better. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 14:21
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If you pardon me a moment, I have to go back to doing squat thrusts hanging from a bar across the ceiling. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: condor
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 16:00
Seconded, just better than TAAB
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Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 17:01
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Gun to your head: Hum the melody to "Mother England Reverie" or "One White Duck". (from the top. not just the chorus.) Now whistle "Wond'ring Aloud" or "Mother Goose". I rest my case. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 08 2017 at 17:25
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Also, the transition from triple to common meter at 1:10-1:30 here is one of the most graceful linking passages I have ever heard ever on any album by anyone. There's just *nothing* as fluid and inspired on Minstrel. It's sheer genius. https://mixcloud.com/christianhegele/taab-single-edit/" rel="nofollow - https://mixcloud.com/christianhegele/taab-single-edit/ ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 16:03
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A rejigged warchild and too old is similar quality to songs from the wood ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 16:35
You're not wrong. Emphasis on the rejigging, though. There's a legitimately great album lurking in tracklists of this dark patch. I tried my best to pan for the gold in my original post above and sequence what I would have considered to be a 5 star followup to TAAB. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 16:43
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I could have done more to mine the unreleased tracks and b sides, some of which you've mentioned are legitimately great. But I restricted my attention to the albums as released, partly on principle, and partly of convenience, given that they're what my buddy and I had our hands on at the time. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 16:47
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I'll mention that it was my friend who lobbied hard for Crazed Institution in there. It's the only selection we made that I'm on the fence about, given that it's basically the same song as Skating Away (and Life is a Long Song, and One Brown Mouse, and ... and). In retrospect, I would probably have chosen Paradise Steakhouse or Small Cigar to finish off the imaginary Side A. But I'm still happy with the sequence as it stands. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 16:59
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Warchild Warchild-always liked this one. Best song on original album imo March the mad scientist-love it Good godmother-Tulls best song from 74 imo Quartet-nice proggy filler. Can remove though Queen and country-my other fave from original Skating away-bit overrated but a good one Saturation-gives the album some grunt Glory row-one of my fave Tull tracks from 74 Paradise steakhouse-interesting. Has APP vocals too Solitaire-nice filler Rainbow blues-fun ending Too old Strip cartoon-maybe my fave Tull track from 76 From a deadbeat-sax solo is awesome Salamanders ragtime-fun track. Loving it now Pied piper-has a SFTW feel Commercial traveller-up there with strip cartoon. Cool track Salamander-good acoustic Big Dipper-decent track Small cigar(orchestral)-love this version Quiz kid-decent track Chequered flag-strong ending Hopefully there are more Too old tracks to be found to replace dipper and quiz. Was a hard choice between quiz, dipper and crazed for last 2 spots ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 17:08
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I'm surprised the title track from Too Old didn't make the cut. The "orchestral" opening motifs are a great trick Tull would use again on "Heavy Horses". And the female backups in the later verses are superb ... "tears in his eyeeeeees" etc. I never liked the Jerry Lee Lewis breakdown at the end, though. Because it's slimy and manipulative and totally insincere. It's mercifully only a few seconds long tho. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: September 10 2017 at 18:41
Title track sounds better on the remix. You can really notice a big difference between the tracks that had their original tapes found and the ones that weren't. The drums and cymbals sound so much clearer. Who knows, Ian might come across the remaining tapes plus some more rare tracks ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: hegelec
Date Posted: September 11 2017 at 11:00
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Neat! Yeah isn't it funny how tapes go missing like that? The whole Aqualung saga is almost humorous in its level of tragedy. It really seems none (save perhaps for Rob Fripp) were making music back then with any sense of legacy/posterity. ------------- Cheers! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 12 2017 at 03:39
That's a side of Tull's story I hadn't thought about.  It could be that indeed Ian realized that once he got big with the London-based Tull, and Abe left, than Cornick left two albums later, he maybe then saw the opportunity to get the Blackpool school buddies on the act. I doubt he would've thought about in the Benefit/Aqualung time lapse release, coz Barre is not a Blackpool buddy... Not sure Ian would've tried to get Bunker to leave Tull by "getting onto his case" either, just so he could get Barlow in, though. Not that he was any easier to work with for his old buddies than he was with the three originals. |