What does Porcupine Tree mean?
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Topic: What does Porcupine Tree mean?
Posted By: condor
Subject: What does Porcupine Tree mean?
Date Posted: August 12 2017 at 13:56
| According to Steven Wilson, it's not very deep, but I haven't worked it out. |
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: August 12 2017 at 14:47
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: August 13 2017 at 08:01
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Masculine oriented juvenalia (sic?) according to Wilson. I believe him... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 13 2017 at 09:25
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In the end, probably nonsense. You could call your band Blunt Cactus, and it means nothing......... |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 13 2017 at 11:58
| Not sure but I think he just wanted a psychedelic sounding band name since initially they were sort of meant to be a parody on the whole psychedelic era. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 13 2017 at 16:27
really?? I mean REALLY... wow man.... I think the cult of SWilson has reached the tipping point... Jonestown there they go!!!!! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
condor wrote:Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: August 13 2017 at 16:59
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A bunch of arboreal pricks. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 13:01
^  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 13:02
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Thought this was interesting.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree Porcupine Tree originated in 1987 as a collaborative hoax project by Steven Wilson and Malcolm Stocks. Partially inspired by the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_music" rel="nofollow - psychedelic / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock" rel="nofollow - progressive bands of the 1970s, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd" rel="nofollow - Pink Floyd , that had dominated the music scene during their youth, the two decided to form a fictional legendary rock band named The Porcupine Tree. The two fabricated a detailed back-story including information on alleged band members and album titles, as well as a "colourful" history which purportedly included events such as a meeting at a 1970s rock festival and several trips in and out of prison. As soon as he had put aside enough money to buy his own studio equipment, Wilson obliged this creation with several hours of music to provide "evidence" of its existence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree#cite_note-Dutch_Progressive_Rock_Page-6" rel="nofollow - [6] Although Stocks provided a few passages of treated vocals and experimental guitar playing, his role in the project was mostly offering occasional ideas, with the bulk of the material being written, recorded, played and sung by Wilson. At this point, Porcupine Tree was little more than a joke and a private amusement, as Wilson was concentrating on his other project, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-Man" rel="nofollow - No-Man , an endeavour with UK based singer and songwriter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Bowness" rel="nofollow - Tim Bowness . However, by 1989 he began to consider some of the Porcupine Tree music as potentially marketable. Wilson created an 80-minute-long https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_cassette" rel="nofollow - cassette titled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarquins_Seaweed_Farm" rel="nofollow - Tarquin's Seaweed Farm under the name of Porcupine Tree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree#cite_note-Porcupine_Tree_Biography-7" rel="nofollow - [7] Still showing the spirit of his joke, Wilson included an 8-page inlay which further revealed the hoaxed Porcupine Tree backstory, including references to fictitious band members such as Sir Tarquin Underspoon and Timothy Tadpole-Jones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree#cite_note-Steven_Wilson_-The_Complete_Discography_.286th_Edition.29-8" rel="nofollow - [8] ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 13:22
| Not according to Wilson, it's a corruption of "Pork your Pine Tree". If you ever hire a linguistically challenged arborist who threatens to "pork you pine tree", consider dismissing said degenerate. Well, unless you are open-minded and it's a "naughty" [sic] pine, in which case the tree might welcome the wood. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 14:08
He's right. This was Steven Wilson's high school year book photo (before the plastic surgery   -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 14:10
He's right. Here's Steven Wilson's high schoo yearbook photo before the plastic surgery  ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 14:17
Pork your pine tree...? What the hell does that even mean..? ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 14:36
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I had worried that I was not subtle enough. It means to have certain intimate relations with a pine tree that does not belong to you -- many of us are told not to covet they neighbour's pine tree, are we not? No, that's our neighbour's ass. However, if it's a naughty (read knotty) pine tree, then this may not be such an issue (at least for the tree), wood it, or woody knot? Anyway, I apologise for the crudity. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 15:36
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I always figured a Porcupine Tree had something in common with a Steely Dan. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 15:41
| ^ Now that is funny, (as was Mascodagama's post), but it gives me a most horrifying image. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 17:08
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------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 17:41
Probably came up with it while poorly stoned on bad acid (the good one was in the 60's and 70's!) and poor grass ... while doing something he called music for his garage! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 14 2017 at 21:22
| If it were 25 years ago, I'd say. " let's drop some acid and ponder this suggestion ". Who knows, it's just an attention grabbing, unique name that stands out from the crowd. Spock's Beard is another name in similar vein. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 15 2017 at 21:23
But Spock's Beard does have a reason to be. I just read it once, and am not a fan of the band, nor Neal Morse either, but as I remember there was something between the band members (perhaps the two Morse brothers?) about a chapter of Star Treck in which Mr Spock did have a beard. But it was something so uncommon that it ended up being like another way of saying something that is very unlikely. Or soemthing of the sort. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 15 2017 at 21:46
*loses entire beer on keyboard* FAIL!!!!!! SWilson as the ex-con. Yeah right. SWilson wouldn't have lasted 10 minutes in prison without some dude making him (and his pretty hair) his bitch and having him squeel like a pig for the duration of his stay in the big house... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 04:56
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Perhaps Roj (NEO contributor) should shed some light on this - when He and I were a lot younger - he used to sell S. Wilsons Karma tapes for him and was his contact for information I do believe. Roj & I stayed with Mr Wilson at his parents house in Hemel Hempsted - We went to the pub with him and his keyboard player - who I remember was into drinking beer and smoking roll-ups, S. Wilson drank coke. No mention of Porcupines or trees if I can recall - though Steve's favourite bands at that time were Floyd/Rush , don't think he liked Genesis and Yes as much as I did, and I think he had far more electronic and popular influences than I thought was healthy for an aspiring prog-god.... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: August 16 2017 at 06:36
The name "Spock's Beard" has its origins in the Star Trek episode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror,_Mirror_%28Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series%29" rel="nofollow - There is a Neal Morse interview out there somewhere that speaks to why they picked it as their band's name. ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |