Queen II or Quadrophenia?
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Topic: Queen II or Quadrophenia?
Posted By: TexasKing
Subject: Queen II or Quadrophenia?
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 14:47
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Love both albums, but I'm going with Quad. You?
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 14:54
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Are you joking ? It's a (quadruple) massacre ! Long Live The Who |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 14:56
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Moving Pictures ------------- |
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 14:57
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Quadrophenia... ------------- He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 15:25
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Queen II for me. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 15:56
| Love 'em both, Queen II for me! |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 16:24
| Quadrophenia |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 16:50
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I like Quadro. I love II. ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 19:14
Yes, me too. Queen II by a hair, a very thin hair.
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cstack3 wrote:Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 28 2017 at 22:20
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Definitely Queen II. I got burned out on Quadrophenia in the late 70's and never listen to it, but Queen II get's a regular listening to this day... ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: July 29 2017 at 01:03
Haha, when I get enough posts to do a poll my first one is going to be In the Court of the Crimson King vs Everything's Archie(second album by The Archies, containing the mega smash hit "Sugar Sugar"). See if I can get the biggest blowout in this forum's history.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 29 2017 at 04:44
For me too. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: July 29 2017 at 06:33
| Queen II topped my list for years. Still a top 5 album for me. |
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: July 29 2017 at 10:28
I agree !
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Posted By: scruffydragon
Date Posted: July 30 2017 at 07:37
Certainly Queen II.Too many mates during the Mod revival tried to get me to like their idols. Guess it backfired on them.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 30 2017 at 09:56
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I've listened to Queen II more over the past few years. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: July 30 2017 at 14:24
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Queen II has been one of my favourite albums for over 33 years now. And I can't see that changing anytime soon |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 31 2017 at 07:06
ditto
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 31 2017 at 10:25
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Quad ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: July 31 2017 at 12:31
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As others mentioned, love both but Queen II it is. ------------- 
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: July 31 2017 at 12:57
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Queen2 for me ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Paroscoob
Date Posted: July 31 2017 at 20:29
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Queen ------------- 8 |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: August 02 2017 at 07:27
| I overestimated this group. Quadrophenia all the way! |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: August 04 2017 at 03:54
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Queen really stepped up with II. Quadrophenia is a milestone in music. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 04 2017 at 10:16
I have to say I'm a bit surprised that Queen 2 is beating Quadrophenia..... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 04 2017 at 10:54
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^ Now it's a draw. As much as I love Queen... ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 05 2017 at 11:00
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Well...I think Quad and Tommy for that matter are better than anything Queen ever did but I'm a Who fan and never thought that much of Queen. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 09:56
| Queen - Queen II |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 08 2017 at 10:20
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Is there a Who vs Queen poll.....wonder how that would end up..? ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 12 2017 at 18:35
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I dig Queen II - in fact, their first five are all solid rock albums, but to put it up against an album like Quadrophenia? ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: October 12 2017 at 21:39
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love both, but Queen by a hair |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 13 2017 at 02:42
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No Queen album can beat Quadrophenia (although this one and A Night at the Opera come rather close). ------------- 
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: October 13 2017 at 03:14
| Queen II is probably my favourite album from them but Quadrophenia is an all-time great. |
Posted By: Jordan Graham
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 01:40
That's exactly the way I see it.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 13:56
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Queen II vs. Quad'. Really? ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 14:12
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We have a draw, now - it means there is still hope for Humanity, after all ... |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: October 24 2017 at 17:00
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Quad is a classic! ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 15 2018 at 02:05
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The Who on this one. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: CristauxFeur
Date Posted: October 31 2018 at 19:47
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A night At The Opera ------------- Dragged down by the stone |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 31 2018 at 19:58
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I can't even see this as being anything close to a legitimate contest. Nothing anywhere in the Queen catalog can touch even a middling Who album, let alone quad. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 01 2018 at 06:13
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Quad all day, every day! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 01 2018 at 14:20
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As always Steve makes the right choice. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: November 01 2018 at 15:21
| really is no contest. Queen II |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 02 2018 at 08:01
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This shouldn't even be close.... Quadrophenia by a mile!!!
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Posted By: Cylli Kat
Date Posted: November 02 2018 at 17:28
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The White Queen walks and the night grows pale... Close one, but have to go with Queen II. (I aped a TON of stuff from Brian May on that one...) Obviously, the mileage does vary around here! And I wouldn't want it any other way! ------------- [Insert Clever Phrase Here] |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: November 02 2018 at 19:43
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Quadrophenia all the way for me. I love Queen but was not a big fan of Queen II. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 04 2018 at 12:01
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 22 2018 at 07:23
Same. Even listening to TOMMY, for some reason it now sounds tired ... not sure why. QUADROPHENIA I have to sit through it again ... I don't have that album, and I don't even think that I have heard it in its entirety at all. QUEEN, was fine for me, and we had their first album (that Pink one), and thought it was interesting and strong, and not just a passing ship in the night of the ______ parading in London at the time. I kept thinking that FM was not quite fake, and the material is more direct and honest than a lot of stuff at that time by folks that loved makeup and funny clothing to denote that they were gay, or bi. Q's 2nd album ... wooooooahhhh ... what is this? You could not help jump at the improvement over the first one. By that time, the WHO was sounding tired and I think that they were not as happy on stage since they could not do what they wanted in America, and had to play all their "hits". There used to be a story of a scream out with some guy from the LATimes (about what they played, and two of the guys slammed the critic left and right -- Jim Ladd probably has a lot more about that in his closet!). My main thoughts might have been that by this time, I was already heavy duty into the Europeans and this stuff, while nice, was probably not as valuable or important to me anymore. Q was nice, but not as much great listening as Focus, AD2, Can, TD, or KS for me anymore at that time. Today, I can appreciate both of these albums a bit more, but Q is a pop band, compared to the material that The Who did in my book, although it would be a very good one. The stuff in WHO ARE YOU was hardly radio material at the time, but its strength, soul, and quality, blew out half the material that was playing in FM radio at the time, and became the tone for a lot of quite a bit more serious music, of which PF became the flag with DSOTM a year later or so. (PF played it for a year and a half BEFORE the album was released! ... it's in the bootlegs loud and clear!) I'm not, honestly, a great fan of these comparisons ... they have a tendency to distort the time, the place, and its value, all of which get dumped for ... today's flavor instead ... and as such, for me, a lot of the music loses its strength. I do not listen to Bach, Beethoven or Stravinsky to compare it to my tastes ... I listen to it for its own beauty which was alive at that time, and that is what you look for in a lot of music that you and I listen to. But sometimes, trying to find how, what ... I don't get it ... Mahler wrote that Symphony for his wife that left him anyway ignoring the music altogether ... I think that this is what I'm hoping to never see in anyone's life when it comes to music ... a complete and total lack of communication and understanding ... gives a whole new meaning to "size matters" ... but not when it comes to a symphony! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: November 22 2018 at 09:21
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Brian may wasted. Would have shone in a Rush type prog metal band... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 22 2018 at 09:57
Wasted on this album or in general? Either way I disagree. He was an integral part of the Queen sound, with his unique (I dare say) style. And Queen II is one of the best Queen albums.
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 28 2018 at 10:58
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Queen II by a pretty decent landslide. Quadrophenia is awesome, but the off-the-wall experimentation, beautiful atmosphere, and intricate instrumental work really push Queen II ahead for me ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: November 28 2018 at 17:59
Brian May was indeed a core element of the Queen sound. But that doesny mean he couldn't have done so much more as a guitarist. Not as big as waste as, say, Schon in Journey or Luthaker in Toto, but still a far cry short of what he had to offer. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 28 2018 at 22:45
None of them are a waste if you ask me. Lukather is the reason I listen to Toto (plus solo albums and collaborations). Schon is usually the main songwriter in Journey. Queen has big discography, plus May has some solo stuff as well.
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Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: November 29 2018 at 02:47
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As far as Journey goes, I'd say (as much as I enjoy them, and I definitely do) that pretty much all of the members were wasted on pop rock. They were all unusually advanced players for an AOR band (I suppose it makes sense, since Journey began as a much proggier/jazzier group, and that Schon and Rolie were from Santana). I do wonder how many of the musicians in that band would have appeared on more "best of" lists if they were part of a more appraised group, because I DO believe that Schon in particular should be on more of those lists, as well as Gregg Rolie and Ross Valory. Steve Smith already has a ton of accolades, but that's because he's such a powerhouse in the jazz world already. And Steve Perry already has a ton of accolades because he was already the focal point of the band's pop/rock days (well-deserved too, because he has an incredible voice) ------------- Take me down, to the underground Won't you take me down, to the underground Why oh why, there is no light And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life https://www.youtube.com/@CocoonMasterBrendan-wh3sd |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 18 2018 at 09:59
 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 24 2018 at 22:44
This. It's up there with Dark Side, Thick as a Brick, Close to the Edge and Abbey Road (and maybe a couple others) as my favorite rock albums ever. Quad isn't too far away though. And Brian May suits Queen far more than Rush, he shines when he plays those lush and wonderful arrangements. His guitar orchestration is brilliant. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 06:30
| No contest for me, Queen II by miles. Never a fan of The Who. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 16:27
I wonder if some of us were around ... let's say 1968 ... and even got to see a movie, to have a great idea why THE WHO was valuable and somewhat more important than Queen, even in its heyday! In the end, the comparison brings one down and the other up, and that is sad ... because both bands were very good, worked very well to make sure that they had incredible material, and their lyrical work is also not exactly crap and second class written material that is meaningless, and ... pardon the pun ... deserves to be pop musik for the top ten. In the end, because THE WHO was there, and spoke a lot for me and others at the time, when we were just getting out of high school and getting into college ... and by comparison, Queen was almost just a pop band, a good one, mind you and they showed that in their first album, but when they first came out, they could not, and would not BE anywhere near THE WHO status ... but their fame in a couple of songs, brought their fame up to such an incredible level ... we still hear one of their songs at every stadium .... and no THE WHO songs! ... and I think that tends to distort the conversation. My take is historical ... in all likelihood, because I was there around all the music for many of these years ... but I (personally) do not feel comfortable making a choice as to which band is more important ... heck, I find THE EDGAR BROUGHTON BAND far more important lyric wise and for what they do and did, than we will EVER give them credit for ... it's like "Out Demons Out" is not important ... when it came out ... and it took a lot of courage to do something like that ... in America, only CCR and the song about sending your son to war ... was really similar, although there were many folk-related folks that were intentionally ignored for their "comments" ... and Joan Baez would even fit in these things. This is where a lot of the music comes alive or not ... as much as I can appreciate and enjoy QUEEN, the value of their music is not as important aesthetically and historically as THE WHO, and guess what helped drive "progressive music" ... ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 19:16
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Yes, I was around in 1968. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: December 28 2018 at 02:07
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The Who take it here for me. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 05:15
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QueenII contains one of my all-time favorite musical moments - in March of the Black Queen where they sing "Put them in the cellar with the naughty boys A little ****** sugar then a rub-a-dub-a baby oil (aah aah) black on (aah aah), black on every finger nail and toe We've only begun - begun" in acrobatic harmony Makes me giggle and shake my head every time.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 06:24
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This would be a closer contest if it were Tommy vs Queen II. I was never a particularly big fan of Quadrophenia. Queen's first 6 albums really represented to me the core of what crossover prog is defined as. I have never been able to wrap my mind around why there has been so much resistance to their full inclusion. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 14:10
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Queen II gets the vote for me. The first 6 Queen albums are pure purfection...well mostly. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 14:20
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Very tough call, but Quadrophenia was in my opinion the culmination work of The Who, while Queen II, as exceptional an album as it was, was only the precursor of what was still to come (up to A Day at the Races imho). For this reason I voted for Quadrophenia, but Queen II is anyway one of my favorite Queen albums.
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: January 07 2019 at 16:44
I think News of the World is great but not as good as their previous efforts, in fact, I prefer Jazz to it. It's closer to albums like Races, Opera and II in style and quality IMO. And their last great album. And yeah, they're the peak of art rock or crossover prog or whatever it is, I don't know if they ""deserve"" a full inclusion or not, but they're bloody brilliant. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: January 10 2019 at 11:28
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Why these albums in particular? Queen II for me is the sound of a band that hasn't quite found its feet yet. Not a bad album, but I think the music becomes much more focused already on Sheer Heart Attack. Quadrophenia is really beautiful on a solely musical level even if I can get a bit tired of Daltrey's post-Tommy singing style. Judged as a "gesamtkunstwerk" I don't think it is as strong as f.e. Tommy which is more layered, f.e. with the storyline. My vote would still go to Quadrophenia.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 29 2019 at 23:53
Queen ii ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 05 2019 at 04:20
He probably wouldn't have wanted to be in a band like that. Queen were a band of diverse songwriters, with ecelctic tastes, and of course enormous talent and possibly the worlds greatest rock singer and frontman. I think that would have suited May more, than being pigeon holed as 'prog metal' That would have limited the band to making only a combo of prog rock and heavy metal...obviously.. When people say they don't like Yes or Rush, I of course disagree with them as I love them, but I can understand why they don't like them. When someone says they don't like Queen, I find that harder to understand as Queen had something for everyone across their career, and had an approach to songwriting that think couldn't fail to suck everyone in...sometimes. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: July 16 2019 at 18:40
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Queen II, but it's a much closer match than most any other album can put up. Quadrophenia is both excellent in every way and a personal favorite. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 20 2023 at 07:54
gentle bump! 
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: September 20 2023 at 07:55
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Quadrophenia, 'Love Reign O'er Me' alone cements that ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 20 2023 at 10:03
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Quadrophenia ------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 20 2023 at 10:40
Queen II 
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: September 20 2023 at 13:28
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Since my last comment I think I have moved more towards Queen II, but I like both albums anyway. On Queen II I believe side 2 is a lot stronger than side 1. This is my take on Quadrophenia btw: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2948085" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2948085
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Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 00:33
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Both are extraordinary, but Queen II, and especially the black side from "Ogre Battle" to "The March of the Black Queen", has the intensity and compositional quality of a Mercury in a state of grace. ------------- Héctor Enrique |
Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 00:34
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Both are extraordinary, but Queen II, and especially the black side from "Ogre Battle" to "The March of the Black Queen", has the intensity and compositional quality of a Mercury in a state of grace.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 00:36
nice post!
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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 02:01
| Queen. I've never got into the Who and believe me I've tried. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 03:08
this sums it up pretty well for me. Sheer Heart Attack is the one I go to or the live album at The Rainbow which demonstrates just how heavy Queen were at that time (1974) The 70's is full of bands and artists that had artistic tendencies. I don't believe Queen ever did a full blown prog album while The Who got very close with Quadrophenia. Great synths/keyboards especially which gives it that feel. Queen were famously anti-synths back in those days!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 06:19
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Hi, In terms of "time" and "place", something like QUADROPHENIA is way more important than Queen 2 ... that's not to suggest that Q2 is not a good album, but the context of the music is different and The Who, were much more with it in their earlier stuff, than Queen, who became a very strong band later in their career after their megahit. I would say, in Queen's first 2 albums, which are not exactly bad or poor, the band is trying hard to find their way, and they finally did when Freddie said "screw it" and took over, and his strength and quality with an audience was infectious, insane and excellent, and you can take those 15 or 20 minutes at the really big stage to see one of the most incredible ability and control of an audience ... and he didn't waste a single ounce of strength on it ... he just powered right through it. You will pay a fortune to see someone do that ... not just an itsy bitty crap prog band! However, it is hard to not give The Who the credit they deserve, in our history of the music, even though we don't believe in history and continue to discuss these things as if only the hit matters! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Lesanderd
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 10:04
| Quadro is excellent as well but i will say :Queen II |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 21 2023 at 12:37
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Quad by a mile. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |