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Topic: Olympics! Should men compete against women?
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Subject: Olympics! Should men compete against women?
Date Posted: July 05 2017 at 10:16
Yes or no?  Should transgendered men be allowed to compete against women?  

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/biological-man-wins-usa-volleyball-approval-to-compete-with-women-but-is-it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9j-TJdJRmM



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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: July 05 2017 at 10:22
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Yes or no?  Should transgendered men be allowed to compete against women?  




Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: July 05 2017 at 10:31
Yes.

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: July 05 2017 at 19:01
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Yes.

I, myself don't have an opinion.  A local news story brought this controversy to my attention.

 A local girl who identifies as a boy, won the State wrestling championship.  Some girls thought it unfair since the girl took large doses of testosterone. The girl/boy wanted to wrestle boys but Texas law requires you to participate in the sport as the gender you were born with.  

Progaardvark, why you do you feel men who identify as women, should be able to compete against women?


Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: July 05 2017 at 20:11
Yes and so should biological men too, gender is fair game right? 

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 05 2017 at 21:03
Yes because there is no clear cut off line between male and female. Many humans are interesex which means they fall somewhere between the two genders. 

This Wikipedia article is fairly accurate: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex" rel="nofollow - Intersex - Wikipedia

Definitions[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Intersex&action=edit&section=1" rel="nofollow - edit ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hanne_Gaby_Odiele_Photographed_by_Ed_Kavishe_for_Fashionwirepress.jpg" rel="nofollow">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hanne_Gaby_Odiele_Photographed_by_Ed_Kavishe_for_Fashionwirepress.jpg" rel="nofollow -
Model  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanne_Gaby_Odiele" rel="nofollow - Hanne Gaby Odiele photographed by Ed Kavishe for Fashionwirepress. Odiele disclosed that she has the intersex trait  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome" rel="nofollow - androgen insensitivity syndrome  in 2017

According to the UN  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_the_High_Commissioner_for_Human_Rights" rel="nofollow - Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights :

Intersex people are born with sex characteristics (including genitals, gonads and chromosome patterns) that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies.

Intersex is an umbrella term used to describe a wide range of natural bodily variations. In some cases, intersex traits are visible at birth while in others, they are not apparent until puberty. Some chromosomal intersex variations may not be physically apparent at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#cite_note-unfe-fact-2" rel="nofollow - [2]

In biological terms,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_sex" rel="nofollow - sex  may be determined by a number of factors present at birth, including: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#cite_note-KnoxSchacht2011-30" rel="nofollow - [30]

  • the number and type of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome" rel="nofollow - sex chromosomes ;
  • the type of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonad" rel="nofollow - gonads —ovaries or testicles;
  • the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone" rel="nofollow - sex hormones ;
  • the internal reproductive anatomy (such as the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uterus" rel="nofollow - uterus  in females); and
  • the external genitalia.

People whose characteristics are not either all typically male or all typically female at birth are intersex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#cite_note-31" rel="nofollow - [31]

Some intersex traits are not always visible at birth; some babies may be born with ambiguous genitals, while others may have ambiguous internal organs (testes and ovaries). Others will not become aware that they are intersex unless they receive genetic testing, because it does not manifest in their phenotype.



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 05 2017 at 22:37
if they ain't got balls lump em together,

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 06 2017 at 06:48
I guess so, but tbh, I don't really care.

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 12 2017 at 01:19
In certain parts of Glasgow, they already have inter-gender boxing most Friday and Saturday nights


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 12:13
Doesn't really matter to me but it seems like they might have a physical advantage.

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 12:25
https://theoverheardpress.com/2017/07/07/man-who-identifies-as-6-year-old-dominates-crossfit-kids-class" rel="nofollow - Absolutely.



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