Das Boot vs. The Tin Drum
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Topic: Das Boot vs. The Tin Drum
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Das Boot vs. The Tin Drum
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 11:46
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Thought about doing a submarine poll, but instead I'll do this. Two German films that having World War II settings based on very good novels. The Tin Drum, in particular, ranks amongst my favourite novels. Das Boot was the first subtitled film I saw in the cinema, by the way, and it blew me away. I didn't see Tin Drum until I was in my twenties (at a time when I mostly watched non-English language films), but it also had a big effect on me. I was hoping to include the Volker Schlöndorff directed film (he did The Tin Drum) -- EDIT for carelessness-- The Ogre, which has John Malkovich, but figured it might be a bit obscure for PA forum users generally, whereas these films had more commercial success -- Das Boot in particular outside Germany. Feel free to vote even if you only know one, but better yet, just share your opinions on it in the thread. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 12:41
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great poll great movies.. like you Das Boot knocked me over under sideways down that said a more interesting poll would have Das Boot v. Cross of Iron... two best mainstream movies I've ever seen regarding the war from the German standpoint. and that would have been a hard vote... perhaps given to CoI for Peckinpah being... well.. Peckinpah.. fabulous acting and not to mention the decidedly un-PC.. but purely legendary intro to that movie. Wow... even after 40 years it is one of my most re-watched moives. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 12:55
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I've never seen Cross of Iron, and I will rectify that. I love Sam Peckinpah's Straw Dogs and Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. The Wild Bunch is a classic, and I even love one that is not highly regarded, including by him, but his health was poor, The Osterman Weekend. Das Boot is one of the most important-to-me movies I've ever watched. I always associate it with Midnight Express strangely, since I saw both at almost the same time (probably due to soundtrack similarities from Doldinger and Moroder too). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 13:08
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oh man.. watch it. Especially if you are a fan of his... some rate that movie as the best anti-war film ever made. Not sure if I'd go that far. .but it is a powerful movie.. and vintage Peckinpah if you know what I mean (as a fellow Wild Bunch fan I suppose you do) |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 15:52
ahem. Schlöndorff directed "The Tin Drum" ("Die Blechtrommel"). "Das Boot" was directed by Wolfgang Petersen. "The Tin Drum" actually won the Palme d'Or at the 1979 Cannes film festival and an Academy Award for best foreign language film in 1980. great movie on a sidenote: one of the actors in "Das Boot" is Herbert Grönemeyer, who is also a well-known singer in Germany and actually appears on Peter Hammill's album "The Fall of the House of Usher" where he sings the role of the herbalist. Hammill actually also translated the lyrics for a Grönemeyer compilation album, on which he (Grönemeyer) sings in English -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 16:06
| Das Boot. The director's cut. Saw it in German with sub-titles when it came out. It was refreshing seeing a war movie from the perspective of the enemy for a change with the actors actually speaking German. I wouldn't say it was an anti-war film but more a film about war. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 18:07
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I know, Jean, I was just careless. I saw The Tin Drum and The Ogre as a double-bill feature. Corrected, thanks. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 18:25
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Two great films. I'll go with The Tin Drum. Anyway, I was thinking which film can compete with Come and See. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 19:12
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Wow, that is a powerful trailer for Come and See, and I have not seen the film. Definitely going on my list of must see films. Thanks for bringing it up. It looks gritty and rather surreal. I could imagine myself double-billing it with Pan's Labyrinth based on that (not matter how different) A Russian one worth noting is Ivan's Childhood And the uber-classic All Quiet On the Western Front (brilliant read too) is worth noting.. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 30 2017 at 21:30
oh I've got one better..and lets give the Russians some love... I watched this while doing some research on this siege for a game designer. Брестская крепость great movie and story of a real bunch of heroes and patriots who for too long went ignored and unrecognized by their own government... |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 01 2017 at 08:34
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Ein Anderer ------------- 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: May 01 2017 at 10:19
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When it comes to German movies about WW 2 nothing beats "Die Brücke" ("The Bridge") by Bernard Wicki from 1959 (yes, 1959). Here the first of 9 parts with English subtitles on YouTube; you can easily click on the other parts from there. This is a movie you just have to watch! Logan, this means you as a cineast! -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 01 2017 at 22:43
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Thanks, I will watch anon. So many films, so little me. :) ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |