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Topic: Freemason musicians, prog or otherwisePosted By: malsader
Subject: Freemason musicians, prog or otherwise
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 04:27
Just curious as to how many musicians, prog or otherwise, that you know of, who are Freemasons? I cam across Rick Wakeman in some pictures from the Chelsea Lodge in London.
Replies: Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 06:20
I think Mozart was,
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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 06:57
Pete Townshend was shocked when Freemasons turned up at John Entwistle's funeral as it turned out John had been a Freemason for ages without any of the other band knowing. Also Chas Smyth, the songwriter and dancer for Madness has been reported to being a Freemason.
Did not know that about Rick Wakeman though! So that's why he's the BBC go to guy for presenting documentaries about 70's music!
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 08:43
malsader wrote:
Just curious as to how many musicians, prog or otherwise, that you know of, who are Freemasons? I cam across Rick Wakeman in some pictures from the Chelsea Lodge in London.
His dad, Cyril Wakeman, was a businessman in London. I dare say he got into it through family connections.
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 09:58
Erik Satie was a Rosicrucian until he founded his own church.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 12:19
Icarium wrote:
I think Mozart was,
yes he was. actually his opera "Die Zauberflöte" ("The Magic Flute") is all about freemasonry, right from the very first notes of the overture.
Joseph Haydn was a mason as well, in the same lodge as Mozart
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 13:17
i know Roland Orzabal in Tears for Fears is influenced by masonic philosophy and spirituology and its featured on Tears for Fears third album, but i don`t know if he is masonist
this is a Freemason concept album sorta
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 13:19
What's the deal with this? Seems like a rather creepy "secret society" thing to me. And too close to religion (cult?).
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 13:19
Vompatti wrote:
Erik Satie was a Rosicrucian until he founded his own church.
Rosicrucian and Freemason are two different things, and niether is Illuminati.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 13:22
Beyonce's in the Illuminati. The blogodome swears it's the truth.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 13:23
infocat wrote:
What's the deal with this? Seems like a rather creepy "secret society" thing to me. And too close to religion (cult?).
I has been around in 4-500 years, seems legit
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 03:18
Icarium wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Erik Satie was a Rosicrucian until he founded his own church.
Rosicrucian and Freemason are two different things, and niether is Illuminati.
Different or not, they are akin anyway. In the Scottish Rite, the 18th degree is called Knight Rose Croix.
But back to topic, there is an entry about masonnic music in the https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_ma%C3%A7onnieke_muziek" rel="nofollow - Dutch section of Wikipedia , mentioning a Dream Tgheater song called Rite of Passage, two Alan Parsons Project album covers, Mozart, Haydn, Sibelius, PPijper and some others.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 08:36
I was invited an event a local lodge about ten years ago. The father of my girlfriend at the time was a freemason and got her to invite me to the 'ladies night' I made my excuses and declined, having convinced myself I was being sucked into a world of drinking chickens blood and rough orgies with kidnapped drugged local virgins..
I was being foolish of course, but even so I have no desire to have anything to do with secret societies. If something is secret it's secret because someone feels it needs to be hidden. IMO..
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 08:52
Free Masonery is not a secret society, it's a discreet society: in Paris, they have a museum open to the public, from tuesday to saturday, from 10.00 to 18.00. Not exactly a dark and elusive sect...
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 09:06
Blacksword wrote:
I made my excuses and declined, having convinced myself I was being sucked into a world of drinking chickens blood and rough orgies with kidnapped drugged local virgins..
Is it just me or does this not seem like very logical decision-making?
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 09:49
A simple Google search will turn up many names of musicians and others supposedly in various Masonic Lodges. A jazz connection.... https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jul/02/secret-jazz-freemason-history-duke-ellington-sun-ra" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jul/02/secret-jazz-freemason-history-duke-ellington-sun-ra I was asked to join DeMolay (youth version of Masons) when I was a teenager but never went past the first meeting. One of my friends joined the local Masonic lodge as an adult and told me it was no big deal and he eventually got bored with it.
The 'Illuminati' who did exist at one time (18th century) allegedly infiltrated Masonic Lodges in Europe and were disbanded by the authorities in Bavaria or Austria..? This has been written about many times . The conspiracy fans believe they went underground and are still active today and control various orgs like the Bilderbergers , RIIA, CFR, Tri-lateralists, etc.
Some like Jim Marrs believe they essentially control the planet or at least those nations that matter... for a real entertaining read try Rule By Secrecy by Marrs. It's out there but very interesting.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 11 2016 at 12:35
CPicard wrote:
Free Masonery is not a secret society, it's a discreet society: in Paris, they have a museum open to the public, from tuesday to saturday, from 10.00 to 18.00. Not exactly a dark and elusive sect...
Maybe not there but in Canada it is. All their windows are boarded up or blackened and I know someone who was a part of it and it's no wonder they don't want the public to see their ridiculous traditions.
Every little town here seems to have one of those good old boys clubs and if you leave like my friend did you might as well move out of town(he did) 'cause you are treated as an outcast. They probably fear you will spill the beans on their embarrassing antics. Cute outfits too by the way.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 11 2016 at 13:58
When I think of masons, I think about the Rolling Stones and the album Thick as a Brick. Maybe some early Musique Concrete.
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Posted By: mollykool
Date Posted: December 01 2016 at 01:42
It is a secret society as it operates within government and justice. There is nothing discreet about the nefarious back-room favours among fellow masons.
Posted By: mollykool
Date Posted: December 01 2016 at 01:45
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 01 2016 at 04:26
are some musicians members of Rotary
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Posted By: Sparker1964
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 02:25
Cyril Wakeman had been a Freemason in London. When he died, several members of the Lodge came to see is widow. They told her that should she need anything.. if she needs any help with the funeral etc, ten she only needs to call them. They would remain unobtrusive, but would always be there for her. This is what inspired Rick to join Chelsea Lodge No. 3098.
In Freemasonry, you don't "get it through family connections". Anyone can be a Freemason providing he has a belief in a Supreme Being (doesn't matter which one) is of a minimum are (usually 21) and can afford the fees..... usually less than a couple of hundred quid per year. You will never be invited...YOU have to ASK THEM to join.
I was at Chelsea Lodge No. 3098 when Rick was Installed as the Worshipful Master at Freemasons Hall. Roger De Courcey (yes, him with Nookie Bear) was his Proposer in to Freemasonry and was also there when Rick took the Chair.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 08:24
Just a silly side note...there's a Masonic Temple building (nice old design and brick work) right on downtown main street in my little Indiana town...been there since the early 20th century probably. I have lived here 36 years...and I have never seen one person going in or out, musician or otherwise ,so they must surely be discreet.
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Posted By: Sparker1964
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 09:21
Google it and see... the meetings usually occur in the evening... not all but most.. "masonic lodges in Indiana" and see.
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 10:13
Freemasons ruined prog!
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Posted By: Sparker1964
Date Posted: March 27 2018 at 11:03
I prefer to say that Prog ruined Freemasonry! (only joking.. it's good for morale!)