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Topic: Collins
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Subject: Collins
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 16:15
Who do you prefer, prog's most famous drummer-turned-pop singer or one of prog's wildest woodwind session players?

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 16:28
Tom...the drink.  jk!  :)



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Posted By: Michael P. Dawson
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 16:56
Barnabas.

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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 17:23
Mel Collins for me. The only time Phil Collins has impressed me with his drumming was with his brief tenure in Brand X, while just about all of Mel's King Crimson catalog simply floors me.

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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 18:04
Both are great but Phil for me.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 18:06
Phil Collins is my hero

but seriously also Bootsy Collins,

  Me Collinsl is also quite unique in hes sax delivery in King Crimson





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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 18:57
Phil


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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 20:16
Mel plays a mean Sax, but come'on!
It's Phil all the way.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 25 2016 at 20:49
Phil up to 1980. After that, I'd like to dynamite all his MTV videos. Mel had his moments, but they were moments.

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 00:49
Both great musicians, but I don't like P Collins voice. 


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 01:04
Not noticing the placement, I say with a certain insincerity, I thought this would be about Joan "shake your bootsy" Collins. Voted for Mel.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 01:15
Phil Collins.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 01:34
Phil
Genesis + Brand X - great drumming!


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 06:29
Mr. Phil.
Despite getting kind of sappy in his later years.


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Posted By: AlanB
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 06:56
Mel. He made a HUGE difference to Camel's sound when he was with them.

Phil Collins' solo stuff does nothing for me.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 07:30
Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond

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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 08:00
Phil. Because of his different abilities.


Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 08:07
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

Mel Collins for me. The only time Phil Collins has impressed me with his drumming was with his brief tenure in Brand X, while just about all of Mel's King Crimson catalog simply floors me.
This


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Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 08:09
Did Phil Collins even pretend that his solo work would be prog rock/jazz fusion?  No!  Was he responsible for the simplification/commercialisation of Genesis - partly, but Rutherford and Banks were also complicit.  The prog rock community has been unfair to Collins - who hired Chester Thompson on the strength of his work on Zappa's 'Roxy and Elsewhere' and nearly persuaded Alphonso Johnson to join as well - imagine that!!


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 08:09
Phil, Bootsy and Mel should start a jazz/funk prog band 

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 09:00
Easy---Collins---great singer and one of the best prog drummers.


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 09:52
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Not noticing the placement, I say with a certain insincerity, I thought this would be about Joan "shake your bootsy" Collins. Voted for Mel.

 
Exactly my thoughts. And l also voted for Mel.


Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 11:57
Originally posted by Michael P. Dawson Michael P. Dawson wrote:

Barnabas.
You think like I do. HandshakeEvil Smile  I actually voted for Phil, but if he were listed, I would have voted for Albert.


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 12:02
Mel Collins for staying pure (although he's had plenty of guest starring roles on albums from Gerry Rafferty to Tears for Fears).

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: May 26 2016 at 13:35
Phil Collins was among the best Prog drummers alongside Bill Bruford. I voted for Mel Collins for the entirety of his career. Phil is a "was". Mel is an "is". I'd like to say otherwise. Phil hasn't been a Prog drummer for a very long time.

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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: June 01 2016 at 11:48
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Mel plays a mean Sax, but come'on!
It's Phil all the way.

This


Posted By: Son.of.Tiresias
Date Posted: June 01 2016 at 12:19
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Phil Collins was among the best Prog drummers alongside Bill Bruford. I voted for Mel Collins for the entirety of his career. Phil is a "was". Mel is an "is". I'd like to say otherwise. Phil hasn't been a Prog drummer for a very long time.

Agree. Phil Collins comes behind no-one as a drummer, not even the great Bill Bruford. But he lacks the power of Jon Hisemanīs but is more versatile and very very fluid. He can play anything on drums. His work on the classic GENESIS albums and live, particularly on The Pound and The Lamb is simply sublime.
GENESISī biggest mistake was letting Phil go for lead vocals. His voice is weak and I personally canīt stand it although he was the perfect match with Peter Gabriel in singing harmonies. He should never had left the drum kit.

Mel Collinsī career continues till today, he has recently played with such greats as Arti + Mestieri, the Italian fusion masters. His career is something else.

I voted for the best drummer in Rock, and his beautiful harmony singing as well.




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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: June 03 2016 at 17:25
Mel.
Phil was a great drummer but I hate his voice ...


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 01 2018 at 15:37
Phil Collins

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