Prog and sport
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Topic: Prog and sport
Posted By: Bob Greece
Subject: Prog and sport
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:34
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For our UK prog friends - do prog lovers normally prefer cricket to football because it's more complex? For our US prog friends, do you prefer baseball to other sports? And for the rest of us prog lovers, do you prefer a sport more complex than football?! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:36
cricket is as dull as dishwater; it is hardly that complex. the only complex thing about it is how to maintain your attention span when cricket matches can last 5 days and still end in a draw! ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:37
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Tennis is my favourite sport! I like football (Soccer) but I'm not a fanatic, and I dont like Cricket, it bores me. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:38
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Yes, that sums up my attitiude to cricket. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
spectral wrote:
Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:41
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I like cricket! In fact I'm going to the Test Match at
Trent Bridge this weekend. Could have sold the tickets for a few hundred quid on eBay but I want to see the Aussies getting a good kicking! ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:50
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A good kicking?? Cricket used to be such a 'nice' game.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: jitu
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:51
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bed-sport my favourite ------------- 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:54
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Football is my preferred sport (note to Americans; if it was called soccer, the international governing body would be called FISA, not FIFA). It's nice to see England (or indeed any UK team) perform well internationally, but I can't get my head around 5 day test matches so I'll just watch the highlights on the news. When I was at school we had an American exchange teacher who taught those of us who weren't bothered about cricket how to play softball, and also explained about baseball. Many years later, living in Japan, I followed the Nagoya Dragons (my local team) and also got into watching sumo. American football, on the other hand, has always bored me to death. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 06:54
Just a turn of phrase Blackie old boy! 
I reckon cricket is tailor-made for prog-lovers - a lengthy epic that can either end in thrilling fashion or disappointing anti-climax. ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 07:16
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I like cricket, but I prefer rugby to cricket. In fact, those are
the only two sports that South Africa has really been any good at,
other than a few isolated incidents in things like swimming, athletics
and tennis.
------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 07:18
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Chess! ------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 07:27
| I líke monothonic and solitary sports, like swimming, running etc. |
Posted By: Scrambled_Eggs
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 07:51
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My favorite sport is easily hockey. It's very entertaining to watch and even more fun to play. Thankfully, there will be a season of the NHL this year. Last year, there was no sport to watch in the winter except basketball. ------------- And I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, I don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying? There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime. I never said I was frightened of dying. |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 08:16
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I simply love football (btw why Wis³a had to defeat to Panathinaikos in Champions' League Qualifiers) and prog. These two come together wery well nevertheless, because in book "Close To The Edge A Story Of Yes" by Chris Welch I saw a photo of Yes United (various members of Yes(Rick, Alan and Jon) and their staff, including famous manager Brian Lane making a football team). Since I borrow the book I can't send that picture, sorry. About prog and football I shall quote Roger Taylor of Queen (I agree, it's not prog but good quote though) "Only football gives us thrills, rock'n'roll just pays the bills") And about prog and cricket (the rules are really simple, as one of my English native speakers' once said ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 08:18
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Football (Soccer), Tennis, Skiing...
Not too complex at all... |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 08:27
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I am American by birth and lived in the USA for the first 24 years of my life, before I went to Germany bcause of a job offer. yet I can't understand why my former countrymen (and some women too) are so fond of the ABSOLUTELY BORING sport baseball! maybe it's because I'm a woman. -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 08:41
I've only ever watched one baseball game, I found that boring. On the other hand, I like cricket, and some people find that boring.
That's actually croquet on the Nursery Cryme cover. Some of you may have seen this before, but I'll post it anyway: Cricket: As explained to a foreigner... You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game! ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:37
  ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:39
------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:53
Do you change ends half-time? |
Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:54
Dick, you dirty old dick! ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:59
| Cricket has given us the greatest sporting triumph ever:- ''Botham's Ashes'' .The famous test match when England followed on and with odds of 500-1 managed to win! Nothing will ever beat that.I am also a football fan and go to watch my team Wolves about 10-12 times a year.Football wins most of the time but the latest Ashes series is one of the best ever and is holding the attention of many people who normally couldn't give a monkeys.What's this all got to do with prog? NOTHING!! Sport and Art have little in common anyway. |
Posted By: Gloryscene
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:02
Do you touch bottoms at half time? ------------- "The Beautiful Ally Of Your Own Gravediggers" www.gloryscene.co.uk |
Posted By: Toob-Wurm
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:45
Do you even make it to half time. ---------------------------------------------- As for anyone who said Baseball is boring, all I have to say is this: You're on the right track! Its not that being a woman or european leads you to think baseball is boring, baseball actually IS boring! |
Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:03
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I would have thought most prog fans would do as little sport as possible. ------------- 
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:09
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Baseball sucks, notice how when you see a baseball game on TV, there are so many empty seats, because alot of people finally realised baseball sucks. I play tennis on occasion, bowling, and golf, but damned if I would watch those on TV either. ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:18
i like watching Snooker on TV.  -------------
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:24
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Snooker is really interesting.
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:29
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...as interesting as watching paint dry. ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:31
I am actually competing in gymnastics on a pretty high level. No doubt
this is a more progressive sport than, say, football or baseball 
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:59
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The sports I'm interested in are mainly football, cycling and tennis. I also watch ice hockey every now and then but it can be rather boring!
Cricket sucks - as does American "football", that has NOTHING to do with FOOTBALL!! 
But have any of you ever watched curling?
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Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 20:28
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I absolutly love to play to a almost any sport; Hockey, Baseball, Tennis (the one I do the most), American Football, Soccer/Football, and others too. On TV, It's great to watch American Football and Hockey, Baseball sometime, mainly in the playoffs. I got a question for Europeans : Do most of you know how to play American football, or no one know a rule? (like most people here about cricket
------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 20:30
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Eh, why? We are all nerdy jerk who waste all their time playing computer game in our basements? ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 09:51
Well I'm not a European, but I'll give it a go. American football is similar to rugby in that the aim is to get the ball to the area behind the opposing teams posts. It differs from rugby in the following ways: The amount of protective clothing. The ball may be passed forwards (in rugby it may be kicked forwards, but must be passed backwards). Each team is made up of two sub-teams, an offensive and a defensive one, one of which will be on the field while the team is attacking, and the other while the team is defending. The team in possession has 4 attempts in which they must gain 10 yards, otherwise possession is given to the other team. I know that there are things that I've missed, but that's all that I can think of right now. I think non-Americans know more about American football than Americans know about cricket from movies and TV, as I don't think there's been a movie or a TV series that has had cricket playing a significant part. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 09:59
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[/QUOTE] That's actually croquet on the Nursery Cryme cover. Some of you may have seen this before, but I'll post it anyway: Cricket: As explained to a foreigner... You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!
Thanks for explanation, it was illuminating, but tell me - how do cricket players score goals? ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: dojo
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 10:14
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Cannot say I'm a specialist in prog, but I have no connection with
cricket or baseball since in Romania we don't have these sports ..
official :D I still practice karate, well am in a small vacation since I had some back problems, due to sedentary work  Hope I'll get back soon :) ------------- http://www.lyricsandtalk.com - Music reviews and topics |
Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 13:19
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Football(Soccer) the best sport ever and i play year round i love progressive music far more than anything else ------------- HELP! |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 13:57
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Baseball is great- its our sport- if people say they don't like baseball- they dont ubderstand it. College football is my favorite. (not soccer- but football) |
Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 14:00
i understand baseball but still I hate it. I even know someone who is playing it in a local league and he liked it at the start but now he hates it as well ------------- HELP! |
Posted By: Fearless
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 14:05
anybody like Basketball? me favorite sport  I love also golf, tennis, and (american) football.------------- If you don't stand up You don't stand a chance! |
Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 14:09
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I like curling but ive hear thats a canadian thing Hey, 40 posts, Im a groupie now ------------- HELP! |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 14:16
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yeah- college basketball-0 ncaa tourny- best event ever- makes the world cup look like crap!
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Posted By: abyssyinfinity
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:20
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Motorsports (only on TV... )
VALENTINO ROSSI RULES!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 20:48
It's competitive circus, isn't it? |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 03 2005 at 03:12
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I like bastketball GO LAKERS!(im from LA) i also like futbol and Judo(good Prog sport) |
Posted By: Sekkyoku
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 07:33
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I don´t like any team sports at all, especially not football (soccer). Perhaps it is because of the lack of complexity, I haven´t really thought of that before. It´s boring to watch, however. Take care now. |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 17:40
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Any hockey fans?
I used to be a HUUUUGE fan, and play some as well. Though I have largely lost interest the last several years (in the NHL at least), I must say I am nevertheless looking forward to this season as it appears my hapless Chicago Blackhawks are FINALLY a contender again (thanks in no small part to the new Collective Bargaining Agreement's salary rules).
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Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 18:58
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^ I like Hockey too, but will get a real interest if Québec get a team once again. Now I a bit taking for Montréal (well...) and Vancouver. Khabibulin, Aucoin and Lapointe sure are great acquisisions. Montréal ; No change in the team! I wasn't liking them much, but now... ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 20:54
I hear ya man. I'm an American fan but there has been no greater crime in pro sports over the past decade than what Gary Bettman (and others I am sure) has done to the Canadian fans of the sport. It's actually the same type of thing that has killed the Blackhawks in recent years: the inability to compete with teams like Detroit , Colorado and others with so much money to throw around that other teams have basically no chance. Hockey has been screaming for a hard salary cap for years, and I think it will be just what the doctor ordered for smaller market teams.
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: September 10 2005 at 23:57
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the best sport is long driving ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Flyingbebert
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 09:34
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Yeah another vote from me in favor of Rugby ! It is by far the most progressive sport...The build-up of the actions before scoring is as gorgeous as the best prog build-ups by Genesis, Yes... |
Posted By: Flyingbebert
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 09:35
| And by the way Rugby is one of the most complex sport |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 10:34
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Great question! I was one of the few progheads in the Eighties (when we visited a lot of early Marillion gigs with a large group) that played football/soccer, most loved tennis, cricket or squash. I grew up with football and I have always loved the adventure and emotion of that popular sport. I am Dutch but I often went to England to watch Liverpool, Manchester United or Arsenal and I even visited Barcelona to go to see the two eternal rivals Barcelona and Real Madrid. Barca won 1-0 to the joy of the 100.000 specatators, what an incredible atmosphere! My second favorite sport is baseball (my nephew was a pitcher of the Dutch national squad) and my highlight was when I visited a Toronto Blue Jays home game (during my 3 weeks Canada holiday), they won 3-0 against the Cleveland Indians, I enhaled the typcial baseball atmosphere. It's so friendly in comparison with the agression in the Dutch football stadiums, there I often had to flight because of riots! But back to the issue, football and progrock is not a standard combination in Holland! |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 12:31
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Love Baseball. Love it. Basketball too. Happen to think Soccer/Football is the most god-awful boring sport to watch. ------------- 
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Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 16:34
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^ You're a fan of the New Jersey Nets, right? ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 16:39
Bettman prefered place like San Jose, Carolina, and Pheonix (who are ruining the league right now) than Winnipeg and Québec. Québec's arena was always full, and they probably shared the biggest rivality in the sport leagues of North America with Montréal. And when Québec because the team in the league, after tons of awful seasons, they moved to Colorado and won the Stanley cup that year. How's that? I hope that with the new convention, small markets in Canada will have a chance to live, and maybe we'll get a new team (Winnipeg might be the firsts, but well...). Edmonton and Calgary were about to move (can you imagine that? They have so much history, and fans!). And even if the team was to stay, we couldn't get much player because we didn't have enough money... I hope we'll have a good season this year! ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
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Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 16:49
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Oh come on, quit pretending, the only sport you all know is ping-pong! ------------- Your life or your lupins!!! |
Posted By: MustShaveBeard
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 16:51
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Or just pong! ------------- Your life or your lupins!!! |
Posted By: Don_Frog
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 21:28
| I have a great love of both baseball and hockey. They seem to fit the seasons they're played in. As I type this I'm watching the Indians beat the crap out of the Twins 11 to 2 in the fourth. |
Posted By: jefmoret
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 00:45
| I am unfond of traditional team sports as a whole. Too much emphasis on winning, to little emphasis on personal growth or enjoyment. Too many professionals getting vastly overpaid for being able to run or throw. When after 7 years of experience in my field I am getting ready to interview for a $30,000 a year position...and Steve Yzerman is coming back to the Red Wings this year for "only" 2 Million...and someone like Neal Morse, Any Latimer, or Mike Kenneally is making nowhere near what their true worth is.... |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 04:28
Yeah, South Africa aren't doing too badly at rugby at the moment (2nd on the IRB rankings). The problem with rugby is that there is a big gap between the top teams (the ones you listed) and everyone else. Cricket has a similar problem. It's very difficult to create more interest in the sport when the well-established teams consistently beat the newcomers by huge margins. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Flyingbebert
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 11:40
I don't know anything to cricket, in France it is mostly viewed as a very strange anglo-saxon game ! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 19:53
| I am from the USA and i mostly follow baseball,Hockey(my favorite),Amercian footbal and regular football when i can(the soccer/football coverage even of the national team is basically non-existant over hear) |
Posted By: BitchBrew
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 20:34
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f**k SPORT! WHY PLAY SPORTS WHEN YOU CAN LISTEN TO MUSIC?
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 12 2005 at 20:48
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im american and i love FOOTBALL!!!!  w00t! HOKIES!!! but not so much baseball or really anything else. plus, you can listen to music while watching sports.... there's always a marching band! actually, our marching band often plays Kansas' "carry on my wayward son" during games, and last year did a Styx medley and a Who medley during the halftime show. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Throgh
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 02:28
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1. volleyball 2. soccer 3. snooker to watch 4.bridge 5.sailing 6.riding a bicycle to play  |
Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 03:42
I do think the Tri-Nations should be expanded to include other teams. Unfortunately, the people running things don't feel the same way. Argentina definitely deserve to be involved in something like the Tri-Nations. The only problem with including them is that they probably couldn't be based in Argentina, due to the long distances that would need to be travelled. Also, most of their players are playing professionally in Europe, so getting a competitive team together might be a bit tricky. But if a serious effort was made, solutions could be found. The other team who could be included in an expanded Tri-Nations is the Pacific Islanders. This is a team similar in concept to the British Lions - it's made up of players from Fiji, Tonga and Samoa. I don't think individually any of the three are strong enough to mount a serious challenge, but the combined team may do quite well if given the chance. But, as I said, the people running things aren't interested in including other teams, and have instead expanded the Tri-Nations so that every team plays the other two four times each instead of two, as it stands currently. ------------- Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark |
Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: September 16 2005 at 17:16
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Why doing sports when you can play on your fu*king computer, you mean? ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: DACE
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 08:02
| I love basketball and football and I agree on baseball being boring but so is tennis, IMO. |
Posted By: BitchBrew
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 10:54
Yeah that to..... |
Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 21:25
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I am a sport addict as well as a prog addict I play football(american), hockey(I'm still Canadian),Baseball. American Football is pretty complicated. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Philrod/?chartstyle=Geldropdown-small"> 
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