Was Fripp an ass?
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Topic: Was Fripp an ass?
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Was Fripp an ass?
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 00:19
Im reading the Mojo Classic and my King Crimson box set about him. Seems he was viscous, not a very nice guy to his band members...perhaps thats why there were so many break ups? Any insight on the issue from some hard crimsos??
Thanks!
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Posted By: yesman72
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 00:23
Never!!!!!! Robert Fripp seems like such a nice fellow. I have no idea though, I just hope its not true.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 00:25
Well, according to Mojo he rejected one of his members riffs and made the guy cry and the whole band left the room after that cuz fripp was being such an ass...i mean, he even looks viscious in some pictures!
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 00:26
Fripp's got a reputation for being rather a cold individual and that
comes across in his interviews. I wouldn't say KC had many "break ups"
though. KC was and always will be Fripp's own band and he picks and
chooses who joins the ranks, just like Ian Anderson does with Jethro
Tull. I don't think there's much wrong with that per se.
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Posted By: FishyMonkey
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 00:27
On his recent tour Porcupine Tree many people that saw him said he was a complete ass.
*is listening to 21st Century Schizoid Man*
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 01:13
TheLostChord wrote:
Well, according to Mojo he rejected one of his members riffs and made the guy cry and the whole band left the room after that cuz fripp was being such an ass...i mean, he even looks viscious in some pictures! |
He most likely did that thru' jealousy. I mean, Fripp couldn't come up with a melody if his life depended on it!
Is he an asshole? YES!
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 02:38
Fripp may have been an ass at times, but he's certainly no donkey in his field.
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 02:42
he seemed like a very colorful fun guy in the one interview i heard of him he seemed a little self indulgent but hes a prog musician what do u expect
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 02:54
TheLostChord wrote:
Well, according to Mojo he rejected one of his members riffs and made the guy cry and the whole band left the room after that cuz fripp was being such an ass... |
I hope it was Boz. Who was it?
What ever his personality is like, I appreciate the music he has done, and I regard him as one of the best guitarplayers.
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Posted By: cluckie
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 03:07
these guys are perfectionists. when i was an aprentice my tradesman was a complete asshole. maybe a bad analogy but figures if whats going on in what basically is your band you would be a bit wound up from time to time
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Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:00
There are now three fairly current threads about how Fripp is an ass. I've
really got to get together with him for tea and crumpets to commisserate.
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:21
I read in Q magazine that he is tone deaf. Amazing!
Also, I've never seen a picture of him smiling. Isn't that a bit scary?
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:32
Hello.
You should read Sid Smith his book about King Crimson, very revealing about Robert Fripp his personality. Many people had very bad experiences with his often bad tempers, his urge for control and his depressions (he often refused to communicate). In my opinion he is a person with several faces, from friendly and supportive to passive-agressive and narrow-minded. But on the guitar he was a genius and very innovative!
Best regards,
Erik Neuteboom.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 09:41
Bob Greece wrote:
I read in Q magazine that he is tone deaf. Amazing!
Also, I've never seen a picture of him smiling. Isn't that a bit scary?
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Tone deaf?
Yeah, I guess that figures....

I think Fripp just thinks he is better and more important than he really is, and through some process of black magic has managed to convince his fans likewise. I always knew he had a demonic quality..
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:04
Blacksword wrote:
Bob Greece wrote:
I read in Q magazine that he is tone deaf. Amazing!
Also, I've never seen a picture of him smiling. Isn't that a bit scary?
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Tone deaf?
Yeah, I guess that figures....

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I have a mate who's tone deaf. He never listens to music and doesn't own any music at all. If we go to see some music and have to clap, he has to look at the other people to know when to clap. Either Fripp is not really tone deaf or he is not as tone deaf as my mate.
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Posted By: Baza
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:14
Bob Greece wrote:
I read in Q magazine that he is tone deaf. Amazing!
Also, I've never seen a picture of him smiling. Isn't that a bit scary?
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Fripp smiling:


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:15
You know what, it seems that often creative genius and a difficult character (to say the least) go together. If you read the biographies of some great writers, classical composers or artists, you'll see things that make Fripp's behaviour seem quiet and friendly... Unfortunately, very talented people can be self-centred and manipulative of other people - but this is also true of people who have absolutely no talent at all and who are just big-headed.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:16
Bob Greece wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
Bob Greece wrote:
I read in Q magazine that he is tone deaf. Amazing!
Also, I've never seen a picture of him smiling. Isn't that a bit scary?
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Tone deaf?
Yeah, I guess that figures....

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I have a mate who's tone deaf. He never listens to music and doesn't own any music at all. If we go to see some music and have to clap, he has to look at the other people to know when to clap. Either Fripp is not really tone deaf or he is not as tone deaf as my mate.
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To be serious, for one second, I very much doubt Fripp is tone deaf. If you are tone deaf then you have no idea what melody or harmony are. Five notes harmonising in a chord would just sound like a meaningless noise to you. Thats my understanding of 'tone deaf' anyway.
I may take the p!ss out of Fripp, but I find it unlikely that someone who is tone deaf would devote their life to a career making progressive rock! How on Earth could he write songs if he is unable to tune his guitar, play chords and write melodies..
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:30
Baza wrote:
Bob Greece wrote:
I read in Q magazine that he is tone deaf. Amazing!
Also, I've never seen a picture of him smiling. Isn't that a bit scary?
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Fripp smiling:


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Thanks.
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:31
Blacksword wrote:
To be serious, for one second, I very much doubt Fripp is tone deaf. If you are tone deaf then you have no idea what melody or harmony are. Five notes harmonising in a chord would just sound like a meaningless noise to you. Thats my understanding of 'tone deaf' anyway.
I may take the p!ss out of Fripp, but I find it unlikely that someone who is tone deaf would devote their life to a career making progressive rock! How on Earth could he write songs if he is unable to tune his guitar, play chords and write melodies..
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You're absolutely right. Q must have made a mistake here surely.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 10:43
Bob Greece wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
To be serious, for one second, I very much doubt Fripp is tone deaf. If you are tone deaf then you have no idea what melody or harmony are. Five notes harmonising in a chord would just sound like a meaningless noise to you. Thats my understanding of 'tone deaf' anyway.
I may take the p!ss out of Fripp, but I find it unlikely that someone who is tone deaf would devote their life to a career making progressive rock! How on Earth could he write songs if he is unable to tune his guitar, play chords and write melodies..
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You're absolutely right. Q must have made a mistake here surely.
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It was probably an underhand dig at a musician, who Q personally dont like.
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:07
Bob Greece wrote:
Also, I've never seen a picture of him smiling. Isn't that a bit scary? |
There is one where he smiles! A small pic in the inner sleeve of "The onstrucKtion of Light" album. 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 11:54
Was Fripp an ass?
Hee Haww Heee Hawww Heeee Oughta know better!
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Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:18
< Here's a nice smile by Mr. Fripp. Such a clean-cut young chap.
Frippy's just misunderstood.
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Posted By: Zooka_Jesus
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 12:22
even if he is an ass KC is still efffin sweeeeeeeeeeeet
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Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 02:58
It's not like he cares what any of us think, anyway.
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 20:06
he was mean. he totally rejected a membvers peice of music, somthing he
put his heart into.. its a very mean thing to do, but fripp always
wanted the band to sound exactly the way he wanted it..
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Posted By: Scrambled_Eggs
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:55
Eddy wrote:
...fripp always wanted the band to sound exactly the way he wanted it.. |
Exactly. King Crimson was Fripp's band. Therefore, he had the right to reject other people's musical ideas.
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Posted By: salisbury steak
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 15:07
Fripp said he didn't consider him the leader, but that the band was just "a way of doing things"
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 20:54
Fripp is a dick, as far as I know, and I don't know much about him
what was firing Sinfield all about, he was the best component of KC!
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Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 09:03
The legend goes that he received a guitar at the age of 11. at the
time he had no idea what to do of it (and probably didn't have many
clues about music in general). being left-handed and unmusical, he
found it perfectly logical to teach himself to play a right-handed
guitar
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: August 30 2005 at 12:38
Scrambled_Eggs wrote:
Eddy wrote:
...fripp always wanted the band to sound exactly the way he wanted it.. |
Exactly. King Crimson was Fripp's
band. Therefore, he had the right to reject other people's
musical ideas. |
Apparently Fripp offered to leave Crimson in an attempt to keep Giles & McDonald in the band.
I'm not sure he has much time for Greg Lake and visa versa from the interviews I've read by both parties.
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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 05:40
Are there any good detailed bios about king crimson online that give you all the dirt on how/why people left the band and such, and why King Crimson stopped existing every once in awile.
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 01 2005 at 13:48
"In The Court of King Crimson" by Sid Smith. I haven't yet read through it completely. 
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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 12:22
I never understood why that first lineup fell apart. And why the Wetton lineup just stopped. Same goes for the 80's lineup.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 15:26
Was Fripp an ass? Every one of us has been at least considered an ass by other people.
Nevertheless, he is annoying with claiming he invented prog rock and that it should stop when he disbanded first KC.
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