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Topic: France Masterpieces
Posted By: andreol263
Subject: France Masterpieces
Date Posted: March 14 2016 at 11:19
Post albums or bands that you think that it's a masterpiece from France, can be Zeuhl, Symphonic, etc..., all styles.let's trade knowledge :D

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Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: March 14 2016 at 11:23
For a little change, William Sheller's "L'empire de Toholl":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_GWelucx8" rel="nofollow - Link if the embed does not work


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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 14 2016 at 11:24
There were some polls recently:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105759" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105759
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105784" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105784
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105796" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105796
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105992" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=105992


Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: March 14 2016 at 12:19
Eros by Dun is well-regarded as one of France's finest Zeuhl albums.

A personal favourite of mine is the eastern-influenced self-titled jazz fusion release by Rahmann.


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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents


Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: March 14 2016 at 12:33
The obvious: 
- Richard Pinhas!  Solo or with Heldon.....the Krautiest French prog out there.
- Magma.....Christian Vander's Kobaian language!
 
- Pulsar.....the Floydiest French prog I've heard.
 
- Ange......the first two albums from the Decamp brothers' band were excellent.....but all the songs were in French, which is why they didn't make it bigger.
 
- Pierre Moerlen's Gong.....the post-Hillage band ('76- around 1980) revolved around Moerlen.
 
- UZEB....not French from France but French from Quebec.....I guess it ain't really French then, eh?
 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 14 2016 at 21:30
Philharmonie Le Dernier Mot album cover

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 00:06
MAGMA Kohntarkosz
WEIDORJE Weidorje
ESKATON 4 Visions
MOVING GELATINE PLATES The World Of Genius Hans
HELDON Stand By
ARACHNOID Arachnoid
VISITORS Visitors
CARPE DIEM En regardant passer le temps
ART ZOYD Generation sans futur
ETRON FOU LELOUBLAN Les poumons gonfles


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 00:07
Visitors seconded -

Visitors Visitors album cover



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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 08:29
Another one that I just listened to for the first time is Qualia by modern jazz-prog quartet Syrinx; it's some of the best stuff I've heard from the past 10 years. Plenty of atmospheric acoustic guitar and mellotron that gives a unique mood, combining jazz and symphonic textures very well. I'd highly recommend it.

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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 09:49
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

MAGMA Kohntarkosz
WEIDORJE Weidorje
ESKATON 4 Visions
MOVING GELATINE PLATES The World Of Genius Hans
HELDON Stand By
ARACHNOID Arachnoid
VISITORS Visitors
CARPE DIEM En regardant passer le temps
ART ZOYD Generation sans futur
ETRON FOU LELOUBLAN Les poumons gonfles
 
 
Nice list......Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 10:05
Igor Wakhevitch - Logos, Docteur Faust
Heldon - Stand By
Magma - Live Hhaï, Kobaïa
Clivage - Mixtus Orbis
Gerard Manset - La Mort d'Orion
Dashiel Hedayatt - Obsolete
Jean-Paul Prat - Masal
Art Zoyd - Häxan, Berlin
Jean-Claude Vannier - L'enfant assassin des mouches
Laurent Thibault - Mais on ne peut pas rêver tout le temps
Alain Goraguer - La Planète Sauvage
Lard Free - Lard Free
Nil - Nil Novo Sub Sole
Komintern - Le Bal du Rat Mort
Plat du Jour - Plat du Jour
Zanov - Green Ray
Didier Bocquet - Voyage Cérébral
Shub-Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite



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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 10:41
Magma - Köhntarkösz, K.A. and Live/Hhaï

Some other very good ones:
Eider Stellaire - Eider Stellaire I
Seven Reizh - Strinkadenn Ys
Clearlight - Infinite Symphony
Dün - Eros
Weidorje - s/t

Runner-up:
Vak - Aedividea



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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 11:06
Orion-Pulsar-Pentacle-Ange-Oniris-Synopsis-Artcane- Acanthe-Angipatch-Arachnoid-AlphaRalpha-Tai Phong-Atoll-Cosmos Dream- Eidolon-Minimum Vital- Magnesis- Mona Lisa-Neo-Motis- Nemo- Progression by Failure-Patrick Broguiere-Raison de Plus- Rahmann- One Shot- Seven Reizh- Step Ahead-Skryvania- Syrinx-Siiilk-Taal- Xang



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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 11:11
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

MAGMA Kohntarkosz
WEIDORJE Weidorje
ESKATON 4 Visions
MOVING GELATINE PLATES The World Of Genius Hans
HELDON Stand By
ART ZOYD Generation sans futur
ETRON FOU LELOUBLAN Les poumons gonfles

Pretty much my list, add Shub Niggurath, Setna, obviously some Magma, Jean Michel Jarre, PoiL


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 11:14
I haven't heard the Visitors album from Darryl's list although I seem to remember the pear reviewing it at some point. 
On my list it goes.



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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 20:32
I love a lot of French prog, but I would reserve the title of "Masterpiece" for:

Pulsar - Halloween, Strands of the Future
Ange - Le Cimitiere des Arlequins, Au Dela du Delire, Emile Jacotey
Atoll -  L'Arignee Mal
Mona Lisa - Grimaces, Le Petit Violon de Monsieur Gregoire
Pentacle - La Clef Des Songes
Asia Minor - Between Flesh and Divine (technically the band is 1/2 French, 1/2 Turkish and sings English lyrics so take this with a grain of salt Wink





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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 20:34
L'Almanach de Malicorne

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 21:05
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Pentacle - La Clef Des Songes

Good one -



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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: March 15 2016 at 23:03
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Pentacle - La Clef Des Songes

Good one -


Thanks.  It's just on the cusp of very good->masterpiece for me so thought it deserved a mention LOL


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 00:59
3 stars This French quartet's only album is paradigmatic of what was happening to rock musicians faced with both overwhelming odds and the astounding musical breakthroughs of the 1970s. Like many, the group probably figured this whole art thing would last forever. Rock would surely continue to expand into even greater areas previously unrealized. I mean, how could things go back? The public seemed to agree as evidenced by progressive rock's impressive chart listings and perfect storm of inspiration and timing. And it would be all but over by the end of the decade.

Pentacle's music is both intricate and humble, and the material here seems to have been composed in a flurry of activity during 1974/75 when the band - founded by friends Michel Roy (drums) and Gerard Ruez (guitars) - had after several years of gigging found the right line-up of gifted keyboardist Claude Menetrier and the rare talents of bassist/composer Richard Treiber. Evidently so turgid were the compositions that producer Jean-Claude Pognant [Ange] asked that they be shortened, a request warily agreed to by the band. But on stage they were able to expand their work with three of those live versions added to the Musea reissue. The opener starts unremarkably and the Ange comparisons are fair though the sound may also remind of Italians Le Orme with wafts of Bo Hansson in the background. Trieber's bass parts are the star along with Menetrier's synths supported admirably by founders Ruez and Roy. 'Naufrage' is better, ending solidly with a nice keyboard/drum exchange followed by full-powered symph rocker 'L'ame du Guerrier'-- 6 minutes of thematic development, good vocals and a great sense of soft-to-hard dynamism, Ruez's minstrel acoustics, and plenty of feeling. 'Les Pauvres' is French romance at its most poignant featuring Gerard Ruez's whispers of longing. Menetrier's elegiacal organ leads plodder 'Complot' and it wraps with eleven-minute 'Le Raconteur', a piece with good moments as well as disappointing ones.

The band deserves the love, of that there is little doubt, though this album's legend may only grow so large. Pentacle are a band that causes all weepy-eyed prog romantics to warm to them, and to want to extend a hand if 35 years too late.


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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 01:41
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Pentacle - La Clef Des Songes

Good one -



Thanks. It's just on the cusp of very good->masterpiece for me so thought it deserved a mention LOL


Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

3 stars
This French quartet's only album is paradigmatic of what was happening to rock musicians faced with
both overwhelming odds and the astounding musical breakthroughs of the 1970s. Like many, the group
probably figured this whole art thing would last forever. Rock would surely continue to expand into
even greater areas previously unrealized. I mean, how could things go back? The public seemed to
agree as evidenced by progressive rock's impressive chart listings and perfect storm of
inspiration and timing. And it would be all but over by the end of the decade.

Pentacle's music is both intricate and humble, and the material here seems to have been composed
in a flurry of activity during 1974/75 when the band - founded by friends Michel Roy (drums) and
Gerard Ruez (guitars) - had after several years of gigging found the right line-up of gifted
keyboardist Claude Menetrier and the rare talents of bassist/composer Richard Treiber. Evidently so
turgid were the compositions that producer Jean-Claude Pognant [Ange] asked that they be shortened,
a request warily agreed to by the band. But on stage they were able to expand their work with three
of those live versions added to the Musea reissue. The opener starts unremarkably and the Ange
comparisons are fair though the sound may also remind of Italians Le Orme with wafts of Bo Hansson
in the background. Trieber's bass parts are the star along with Menetrier's synths supported
admirably by founders Ruez and Roy. 'Naufrage' is better, ending solidly with a nice keyboard/drum
exchange followed by full-powered symph rocker 'L'ame du Guerrier'-- 6 minutes of thematic
development, good vocals and a great sense of soft-to-hard dynamism, Ruez's minstrel acoustics, and
plenty of feeling. 'Les Pauvres' is French romance at its most poignant featuring Gerard Ruez's
whispers of longing. Menetrier's elegiacal organ leads plodder 'Complot' and it wraps with
eleven-minute 'Le Raconteur', a piece with good moments as well as disappointing ones.

The band deserves the love, of that there is little doubt, though this album's legend may only grow
so large. Pentacle are a band that causes all weepy-eyed prog romantics to warm to them, and to
want to extend a hand if 35 years too late.








     
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Guys, it's so nice to read of others praising this album in such a way. It is hands down not only my favourite French prog album, but one of my overall favourite prog albums of all time.

It means so much to me....I have lovely memories of getting this quite young into my prog journey (picked up an original vinyl for $10 - cheap because someone had written in big black letters on the front `File Under French Section' - clearly from an ex DJ's collection), and I was playing it at home, and my mother poked her head in the door and said `What a beautiful voice that singer has..'....that really stuck with me all these years.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 01:44
Hug

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 08:47
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

I was playing it at home, and my mother poked her head in the door and said `What a beautiful voice that singer has..'....that really stuck with me all these years.

Reminds me of the day I was listening to Trio from Starless and Bible Black.  My Grandma walked in my room...stopped in her tracks, looked me in the eye and said, "that's very nice".  All the more special since a few months before I'd left out the lyric sheet to Relayer...Grandma was passing through, took a look at the lyrics to Gates of Delirium and freaked out, "The hour approaches pounding out the devil's sermon?  Kill them, give them as they give us?  Slay them, burn their children's laughter on to hell?  What in the world are you listening to???" LOL


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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 16:32
I'd say Tai Phong's first 2 albums are actually pretty genius. It's the perfect blend between crossover and symphonic prog. Oh, and the vocal harmonies - pure sweetness.


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 16:48
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'd say Tai Phong's first 2 albums are actually pretty genius. It's the perfect blend between crossover and symphonic prog. Oh, and the vocal harmonies - pure sweetness.

Absolutely correct! 


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 17:00
Not agree with that Confused


Posted By: andreol263
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 17:10
Wow, how many recommendations!!, i already listened to Ange first three albums, and boy...Le Cemietere des Arquelins and Au-Dela Du Delire are very, very good, especially the last. i'm somewhat into Zeuhl already, for me Magma MDK is a masterpiece from the heavens, i've listened to Kobaia but i didn't liked so much like 1001º Centigrates that is pretty good. I've listened to Dun Eros too, but a really good found was Vortex Les Cycles de Thanatos, what a good album...., i found Atoll debut very normal, maybe i should give another chance to the next album of them!, and i will listen to all these recommendations, so don't stop ;)

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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 19:25
Setna Guérison
Nemo Coma
Heldon IV: Agneta Nilsson
Thork Nula Jedan
Motis L'homme-loup
Patrick Forgas Cocktail
Alcest Écailles de lunes
Camembert Schnorgl Attahk
Progression by Failure Sonic Travleogue
Eskaton 4 Visions
Klone Here Comes the Sun


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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 20:00
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Not agree with that Confused
Your such a duck !Big smile


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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 16 2016 at 22:45
ADN-Prelude is a silent jewel 

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