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Topic: Top 10 By Year: 1976Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Subject: Top 10 By Year: 1976
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 07:36
The top 10 ranked albums released in 1976 as of 16-02-15. Take a pick for your favourite.
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Replies: Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 08:52
Tied between 2112 and Trick of the Tail.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 08:52
Camel
Genesis
Picchio Dal Pozzo
Cos
Rush
My top five
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 08:56
Moonmadness
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 08:58
Could be Camel... but whataheck, I'am going with Rush' 2112!
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Posted By: Skalla-Grim
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 09:02
1. Still Life 2. A Trick of the Tail 3. Wind and Wuthering 4. Leftoverture 5. Moonmadness 6. Principe di un giorno 7. Romantic Warrior 8. Viva Boma 9. 2112
I haven't listened to Stadaconé yet ...
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 09:04
Still Life
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 09:43
Moonmadness. what else?
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 10:32
TOTT.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 10:43
Still Life > Wind and Wuthering > Leftoverture > Moonmadness > A Trick of the Tail
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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 10:44
Rush easily.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 12:00
An easy vote from me for Cos' Viva Boma. I adore Cos.
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 12:51
2112 > Moonmadness > Still Life > Trick
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Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 12:51
My prog credentials are lacking. I'm very familiar with well-known stuff like Genesis, Camel, VdGG, Rush, and RTF, but I have to confess I've never even *heard* of Cos or Sloche. The only reason I know Celeste is because I used to see their name on mailorder lists like Wayside or something (if it's indeed the same group).
That said, I went with Sloche.
*just kidding*
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 13:20
Still Life...they could've released it as an EP with Pilgrims & La Rossa and it would still be the best of '76
2nd place goes to Celeste...a magical album...
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 14:12
Tie between Trick and W&W
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 14:18
Camel I suppose .....then Genesis, Kansas, Cos, Rush.........etc...
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Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 14:49
This one was easy. 2112
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 15:20
Moonmadness.
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 15:22
Leftoverture. Massively underrated.
Then Moonmadness > ATOTT > 2112/Still Life/Romantic Warrior
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 15:36
Camel
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 16:14
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Leftoverture. Massively underrated....
Underrated in what sense and by who? I think most everyone overrates and underrates things to an extent (in a sense).
Its quite a remarkable achievement for such a massively underrated album to be ranked fourth top album of its year in PA's top albums list then, one might think, but then it depends on what you mean.
That potential discrepancy or anomaly aside, I actually haven't heard much derision about that particular album, but there is quite a bit of derision when it comes to Kansas generally amongst many progressive music fans. Or is it more underrated amongst classic rock fans?
It's ranked number 39 of all albums for 1976 at rateyourmusic. http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1976" rel="nofollow - http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1976
Interesting to see Picchio dal Pozzo ahead of it at rateyourmusic, but not here. It's the difference in algorithms to a large extent. I think PA's weights numbers of reviews/ ratings too heavily, by the way.
If you mean that you think that the album is not, generally, sufficiently held as historically significant, or is generally unfairly considered to be lacking in artistic merit, well I don't know. The album is not really my taste, but it seems well done to me. Not sure how remarkable an album it is. Some say that US Prog gets very short changed.
Most of the music I listen to is quite obscure, so couldn't well describe it as underrated, merely relatively unknown.
Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 18:11
I had to give my vote to Moonmadness, though I do adore Romantic Warrior.
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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 18:49
Logan wrote:
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Leftoverture. Massively underrated....
Underrated in what sense and by who? I think most everyone overrates and underrates things to an extent (in a sense).
Its quite a remarkable achievement for such a massively underrated album to be ranked fourth top album of its year in PA's top albums list then, one might think, but then it depends on what you mean.
That potential discrepancy or anomaly aside, I actually haven't heard much derision about that particular album, but there is quite a bit of derision when it comes to Kansas generally amongst many progressive music fans. Or is it more underrated amongst classic rock fans?
It's ranked number 39 of all albums for 1976 at rateyourmusic. http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1976" rel="nofollow - http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1976
Interesting to see Picchio dal Pozzo ahead of it at rateyourmusic, but not here. It's the difference in algorithms to a large extent. I think PA's weights numbers of reviews/ ratings too heavily, by the way.
If you mean that you think that the album is not, generally, sufficiently held as historically significant, or is generally unfairly considered to be lacking in artistic merit, well I don't know. The album is not really my taste, but it seems well done to me. Not sure how remarkable an album it is. Some say that US Prog gets very short changed.
Most of the music I listen to is quite obscure, so couldn't well describe it as underrated, merely relatively unknown.
Underrated in prog, more than in rock. Kansas is actually quite popular, and more than several of the big names in prog, but I feel they don't get the recognition they deserve by prog fans. They were all very capable with their instruments, they had a singer that was technically amazing (unlike other prog bands), the arrangements were brilliant, they had a truly great gift more melodies, etc. And Leftoverture is rated higher than I remembered, but personally I feel it could easily be rated as a prog classic like Fragile, Selling England or Red. We are talking about an album that has Magnum Opus, Cheyenne Anthem, The Wall, Miracles Out of Nowhere, Wayward Son, etc. But to each his own of course. Kansas is one of the bands that I've seen that several people that don't like prog are actually into (same for Rush and, obviously, Pink Floyd), so in a way they are rated higher by some people and as I said earlier, they're actually quite popular and have some very well known songs like Dust in the Wind.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 20:39
Trick.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 20:44
Moonmadness for me.
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 15 2016 at 22:08
RtF by a pretty wide margin, I dare say.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 00:19
Wind and Wuthering, followed by Leftoverture and Moonmadness.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 01:51
Progosopher wrote:
Wind and Wuthering, followed by Leftoverture and Moonmadness.
Wind & Wuthering is from 1977
Moonmadness gets my vote.
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 05:27
Wind and Wuthering was released late 76 - but the tour started in Jan 77. I know because that was the first time I saw Genesis
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 05:51
Flight123 wrote:
Wind and Wuthering was released late 76 - but the tour started in Jan 77. I know because that was the first time I saw Genesis
my bad, my cd says 1976 as well , but in some countries it was released December 1976, others January 1977. Hence, my confusion.
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 05:53
Yes, that's possible but the album was very much the product of 1976!
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 06:01
COS all the way!!!! These dudes and dudette are waaay too overlooked - especially when you think about all the Canterbury fans frequenting this board.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 09:53
Trick Still Life WAW 2112 Leftoverture Moonmadness
I've not heard the others.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 10:06
I very much enjoy eight of these vdgg doesn't do much for me need to check out Celeste
voted 2112
this might be the first prog album I ever owned can't remember if it was 2112 or Fragile :)
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 10:20
The Camel and VDGG entries are about as good as it gets, but Genesis should be kawalloping this poll, forthright. What a grand statement 'Trick' was from a band that faced the obstacle of probably their most beloved member adios-ing right when things were evolving towards some notion of increased popularity among the masses. The Gabriel-less version of the band brought that end product about on its own, and it was no small fete.
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 11:17
1. 2112
2. A Trick of the Tail
3. Wind and Wuthering
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 12:11
Still Life
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 12:30
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Logan wrote:
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Leftoverture. Massively underrated....
Underrated in what sense and by who? I think most everyone overrates and underrates things to an extent (in a sense).
Its quite a remarkable achievement for such a massively underrated album to be ranked fourth top album of its year in PA's top albums list then, one might think, but then it depends on what you mean.
That potential discrepancy or anomaly aside, I actually haven't heard much derision about that particular album, but there is quite a bit of derision when it comes to Kansas generally amongst many progressive music fans. Or is it more underrated amongst classic rock fans?
It's ranked number 39 of all albums for 1976 at rateyourmusic. http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1976" rel="nofollow - http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1976
Interesting to see Picchio dal Pozzo ahead of it at rateyourmusic, but not here. It's the difference in algorithms to a large extent. I think PA's weights numbers of reviews/ ratings too heavily, by the way.
If you mean that you think that the album is not, generally, sufficiently held as historically significant, or is generally unfairly considered to be lacking in artistic merit, well I don't know. The album is not really my taste, but it seems well done to me. Not sure how remarkable an album it is. Some say that US Prog gets very short changed.
Most of the music I listen to is quite obscure, so couldn't well describe it as underrated, merely relatively unknown.
Underrated in prog, more than in rock. Kansas is actually quite popular, and more than several of the big names in prog, but I feel they don't get the recognition they deserve by prog fans. They were all very capable with their instruments, they had a singer that was technically amazing (unlike other prog bands), the arrangements were brilliant, they had a truly great gift more melodies, etc. And Leftoverture is rated higher than I remembered, but personally I feel it could easily be rated as a prog classic like Fragile, Selling England or Red. We are talking about an album that has Magnum Opus, Cheyenne Anthem, The Wall, Miracles Out of Nowhere, Wayward Son, etc. But to each his own of course. Kansas is one of the bands that I've seen that several people that don't like prog are actually into (same for Rush and, obviously, Pink Floyd), so in a way they are rated higher by some people and as I said earlier, they're actually quite popular and have some very well known songs like Dust in the Wind.
Kansas, and that album, has disadvantages over other 70s prog bands:
Kansas is American.
Prog is commonly seen as a predominantly British movement. It is bands such as King Crimson, Yes, Genesis (Pink Floyd when/if considered Prog), ELP and Jethro Tull that I think are particularly associated with the sort-of-formation of a sort- of-prog movement. Kansas was influenced by this, I believe, which makes them, despite being early, sort of second generation (rather like Rush). That might make them seem less originative and innovative to some. And Kansas sounds so American which would put off many who fell in love with the British scene.
Leftoverture came a bit late.
Leftoverture may be a very historically important albums when it comes to American Prog (or Pomp Rock as some pejoratively call it) but it also comes late on the scene when it comes to classic Prog (Prog was generally rather in decline by that time, I would say).
Kansas is associated with AOR.
Kansas is rather heavily associated with AOR and, another vague lable, corporate rock. They are ballady, mixed with almost ELP like bombast (ELP is not as highly regarded as it once was). Okay, Genesis is generally associated more with pop music than prog, so take as you will.
Personally, I don't find Red, Fragile, or Selling England that satisfying (still prefer to Leftoverture), but that's just a matter of my quirky tastes. Since you come from Argentina, I will say that Bubu's Anabelas seems to me a much more accomplished three track album than, say, Close to the Edge, but I would not claim that Bubu is underrated because it does not get the recognition that Close to the Edge does any more than I would claim that Close to the Edge is overrated because Bubu is not so highly regarded. Overrated and underrated are classically problematic terms because there is almost always an element of subjectivity about it, and each person's experience is unique, so who can say how much others should value something you happen to cherish. Even if one has heard every prog album, fair comparisons of worth are majorly problematic.
As you say, to each his or her own tastes. I do think you can use the overrated and underrated terms well within a reasonably objective framework of analysis (specific and narrow range of analysis say).
You have explained your position admirably, by the way, and clappies to you for such a thoughtful response.
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 12:59
Genesis - A Trick of The Tail
Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 13:01
I am Camel fan, but "A Trick of The Tail" is better than "Moonmadness" as for me.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 13:15
charles_ryder wrote:
I am Camel fan, but "A Trick of The Tail" is better than "Moonmadness" as for me.
a good idea for a poll - Moonmadness vs ATotT - I'm curious what the results would be
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 13:20
Cristi wrote:
charles_ryder wrote:
I am Camel fan, but "A Trick of The Tail" is better than "Moonmadness" as for me.
a good idea for a poll - Moonmadness vs ATotT - I'm curious what the results would be
I definitely like Genesis for than Camel, but Moonmadness easily here for me. It's Camel's best vs Genesis' fifth? sixth?
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 14:51
Moonmadness
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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 16:23
addictedtoprog wrote:
Still Life
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 16:58
Camel
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: February 16 2016 at 20:05
Sort of surprised W&W is doing so poorly.
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: February 17 2016 at 09:35
Celeste didn't have any vote
Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: February 18 2016 at 04:24
Romantic Warrior, but Moonmadness is VERY close for me.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: February 26 2016 at 03:26
twosteves wrote:
Sort of surprised W&W is doing so poorly.
So am I. But I can only vote for one Genesis album. Now if W and W had Inside And Out on it in place of the fine but to me, nauseating Your Own Special Way then the story may be different.
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: February 28 2016 at 11:03
Cos
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 13:20
Moonmadness
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 13:47
Ouch....Trick just over Moonmadness, but feel a bit uncomfortable on this one. They are both great!
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 08 2018 at 22:20
2112
Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: March 09 2018 at 01:50
Moonmadness.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 09 2018 at 08:04
Guldbamsen wrote:
COS all the way!!!! These dudes and dudette are waaay too overlooked - especially when you think about all the Canterbury fans frequenting this board.
Same here - no contest
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: March 09 2018 at 08:43
A Trick Of The Tail
2112
Wind And Wuthering
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: March 09 2018 at 17:26