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Topic: Rate our collection.
Posted By: BaldFriede
Subject: Rate our collection.
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:00
Ok, since so many others do it. I'll sum it up though since typing everthing would be a little much.
The list was completely revised and overhauled. This is definitely what we have. Previously overlooked entries in red.
Aera Agitation Free Aksak Maboul Allen, Daevid (including his collaborations with others) Amon Düül (German) Amon Düül (British) Amon Düül 2 Anderson, Jon (only "Olias of Sunhillow") Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe Anima Annexus Quam Aphrodite's Child (only "666") Art Bears Arzachel Ash Ra Tempel Ashra Atlantis (not quite prog, though they have their prog influences; I'll name them nevertheless) Atomic Rooster Bainbridge, Harvey Barrett, Syd Belew, Adrian Between (not in the archives yet! Philippe, your job!) Birth Control Blake, Tim Blegvad, Peter Blegvad; Peter & Greaves, John Blodwyn Pig Boulé, Christian (missing in the archives) Brainbox Brainstorm Brainticket Brand X Brock, Dave Bruford Bunka, Roman Calvert, Robert Camel (only until Rain Dances) Can Captain Beyond Caravan Catapilla Catharsis Circus (British, not listed in the archives, a band in which Mel Collins of King Crimson played, only one eponymous record from 1970) Clearlight Cluster Colosseum Colosseum II Cosmic Jokers Cross, David Curved Air Czukay, Holger Deep Freeze Mice (they definitely should be in the archives!!!) Deuter (not in the archives yet! another job for Philippe) Dissidenten, Die Dzyan (missing the first self-titled one) Earthworks Echo City (not yet in the archives; a band, in which Guy Evans of VdGG played) Egg ELP Embryo Eno, Brian (why the hell is he not in the archives?) Eroc (only first 2 albums) Far East Family Band (only "Nipponjin") Faust Floh de Cologne (Krautrock, not in the archives; only "Geier-Symphonie") Focus Fripp, Robert Fripp & Eno Froese, Edgar Frumpy (Jean and I consider them to be prog, they should be added) Fruup (only "Modern Masquerades") Gabriel, Peter Genesis (with some exceptions here; we stopped after "Seconds Out") Gentle Giant Gila Giles, Giles & Fripp Gilgamesh Goblin Göttsching, Manuel Golowin, Sergius Gong Gongzilla Greenslade Greenslade, Dave Grobschnitt Gryphon GTR Guru Guru Hackett, Steve Hamel, Peter Michael Hammill, Peter Hammill, Peter & Evans, Guy Hansson, Bo Harmonia Hatfield and the North Hattler, Helmut Hawkwind Henry Cow Here and Now High Tide Highdelberg (one-off album with members of Guru Guru, Cluster and Kraan) Hillage, Steve Hoelderlin Howe, Steve Ihre Kinder In Cahoots (not in the archives!!!) Inner City Unit (prog punk; yes, we are of the opinion this category exists; Inner City Unit are proof for that) Invisible Opera Company of Tibet (also not in the archives yet!) Jade Warrior Jane Jethro Tull Jobson, Eddie Joliffe, Steve (only "Journies Out of the Body"; missing in the archives) Kalacakra Karrer, Chris Karthago (only 2nd album) Khan King Crimson Kraan Kraftwerk Krause, Dagmar La Düsseldorf Lancaster, Jack Liliental Long Hello, The Magma Manzanera, Phil (should be added to the archives) Matching Mole Missus Beastly Moebius & Roedelius Mother Gong Moraz, Patrick Mythos (only first album) National Health Nektar Neu New York Gong Oldfield, Mike (up to a certain point; we didn't need the 37th variation of "Tubular Bells") Ougenweide Ozric Tentacles Pink Fairies Pink Floyd Planet Gong Popol Vuh Queen Quiet Sun Quintessence Release Music Orchestra (fusion oriented Krautrock; not in the archives yet) Residents, The Return to Forever Richard Wahnfried Roedelius, Hans Joachim Roland und die Dadadogs (not in the archives) Rother, Michael (only "Sterntaler" and "Flammende Herzen") Ruphus Sahara (Krautrock, not in the archives; we only have "Sunrise" of their albums) Schnitzler, Konrad (only "Con", "Rot" and "Blau", his albums are hard to get, since they mostly appear in very limited editions only) Schulze, Klaus Slap Happy Smyth, Gilli Snakefinger Soft Head Soft Heap Soft Machine Sphynx, Nik Turner's Squire, Chris Swindells, Steve (only "Fresh Blood") Tab Two Tangerine Dream (only up until "Le Parc") Third Ear Band Traffic Turner, Nik (not in the archives yet) UK Univers Zero University of Errors (not in the archives yet) Utopia (German) Utopia (Todd Rundgren's) Van der Graaf Generator Vander, Christian Vangelis Vanilla Fudge Verdeaux, Cyrille Wakeman, Rick (only a few albums though) Wallenstein (only first three albums) Weather Report Weidörje Wolbrand, Peter Wolf Wyatt, Robert Xhol Caravan Yatha Sidhra Yes Zappa, Frank (a few albums missing though) 801
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:15
average starrating per band: 4
some outstanding choices there (Yes, Genesis, Magma, Gentle Giant, VDGG, Hawkwind, King Crimson, Henry Cow, Amon Duul, Can, Nathional Health, Gong, Pink Floyd)
but I miss bands like Camel, Kansas, Queen, Rush, Caravan, Marillion, Arena, Pendragon, IQ, Clepsydra, Echolyn, Like Wendy Ayreon, Angra, Threshold, Moody blues, Jethro Tull, and some others,
if those were included I would rate it 4,5, omit some from your list for a higher rating
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:22
You seriously lack Keneally.
http://www.radiokeneally.com/ - http://www.radiokeneally.com/
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:23
We have Caravan and Jethro Tull; I forgot to mention them (and I am sure I forgot a lot of others). Marillion is not our cup of tea, as is most other neo prog (we have listened to Clepsydra, Pendragon and IQ; no thanks. The rest of the neo-prog bands you mentioned I can say nothing about). Rush is not to our liking, at least not what we have heard of them so far. The same is true for Kansas. Oh, and Camel are too mainstream for our taste. We even have their albums up to "Rain Dance", but none of them really convince us.
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Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:24
BaldFriede,
Great Planet Gong photo What a party I'm sure that was!!!
Not surprisingly, many of the same artists/bands are in my completionist listing as well. Not many Italian bands noted however.
Obviously very strong in the German category. (Is it not PC to use
Krautrock as a term? That's what we used to call it here in the states,
but I wanted to check...)
Any Eastern European stuff....Collage, After Crying, Omega, Plastic People, FSB, SBB, etc.
Kewl list
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:37
Sorry but you don't have any metal , that certainly takes 2 stars away immediately! If you had some Black Sabbath in there or something it'd be better..
BUT the fact that you have Tangerine Dream albums makes me add an extra star. And as the prog bands on the list are pretty stellar I would say 4 stars and that's a very good rating!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:40
No, we are not really into metal. The closest to metal we have are High Tide and Hawkwind, but we like them for other qualities than that (though the metal aspect of them is ok with us).
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:41
BaldFriede wrote:
Ok, since so many others do it. I'll sum it up though since typing everthing would be a little much.
We have virtually EVERYTHING of and related to the following bands (including solo albums of members and spin-off bands):
Agitation Free Anima
Annexus Quam
Amon Düül (in all incarnations) Art Bears Ash Ra Tempel
Brand X Can Cluster Clearlight I will get my first record next week Deep Freeze Mice Dzyan Embryo Faust
Genesis (with some exceptions here; we stopped after "Seconds Out" and only have all solo albums of Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel and some of Anthony Phillips)
Gentle Giant
Gong up to YOU
Gryphon Guru Guru Harmonia Hawkwind Henry Cow Hoelderlin Jade Warrior King Crimson Kraan Magma National Health
Nektar Pink Floyd Tangerine Dream (including the solo albums of Froese, Baumann, Schulze, Joliffe, Krüger and Schnitzler. The last one only partially though, since a lot of his albums exist in very limited edition only).
Van der Graaf Generator (of course the solo albums of Hammill too, as well as projects of other band members)
Yes
That's the basis, and I may have forgotten a few; it's just what comes to my mind right now. There is a lot missing; this is just an overview. Also I only listed prog bands. Of some of the mentioned bands we are shy an album or 2, because they are quite rare, but we try to get hold of them too. I may add the odd band from time to time when I think of it . I deliberately left out a lot of obscurities, of whom only 1 or 2 albums exist, since that would take too long. All in all over 600 vinyls and over 1100 CDs.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:42
We have quite a lot albums of Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin though. But I didn't list them in here.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:44
Excellent collection, but you knew I'd say that anyway. Not much of the further flung Canterbury/RIO scene (The Muffins, French TV, Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, The Residents, Sammla Mammas Manna, Univers Zero and so on) and Magma seem to be the only Zeuhl act, so I'll knock my rating down to 4.5 stars (plus I'm jealous of your comprehensive Krautrock selection).
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:44
Hatfield and the North we have too, of course, as most of the other Canterbury stuff (Arzachel, Egg, National Health, Khan, Matching Mole, Bruford)
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:46
Do you have any Italian prog?
And if not have you tried some of the mp3s?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:48
Oh, forgot the Residents and Snakefinger too. As I said, I made the list just from what came to my mind immediately. And I just added some Canterbury stuff. We definitely have more, I have to look it up.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:49
Italian prog is something we are not familiar with, I must admit. But I am definitely open to suggestions.
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 11:56
Alrighty, you could check mp3s from these seminal Italian groups:
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (the early albums)
Premiata Forneria Marconi (the early albums)
...and these "heavier" groups:
Museo Rosenbach
Biglietto per L'inferno
There are many more but I think these are good ones to try first. If you don't like any of these it is not your thing then.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 12:01
BaldFriede wrote:
Ash Ra Tempel 3/5 Genesis (with some
exceptions here; we stopped after "Seconds Out" and only have all solo
albums of Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel and some of Anthony
Phillips) 5/5 till Seconds Out Gentle Giant 4/5 King Crimson 5/5 Pink Floyd 7/5 Soft Machine 2/5 Tangerine
Dream (including the solo albums of Froese, Baumann,
Schulze, Joliffe, Krüger and Schnitzler. The last one only
partially though, since a lot of his albums exist in very limited
edition only). 10/5 Van der Graaf Generator (of course the solo albums of Hammill too, as well as projects of other band members) 3/5
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 12:01
The Deep Freeze Mice, by the way, are one of the most obscure prog bands of all times; even those who are into very obscure and experimental bands mostly have not heard them. I highly recommend them though. Here a link to a good page for them: http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/strebor84/site_dfm.htm - http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/strebor84/site_dfm.htm
For starters I recommend "Rain Is When the Earth Is Television".
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Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 12:10
Also worth considering in the Italian vein:
Le Orme (Uomo di Pezza, Felona e Sorona, Contrappunti, Collage, and In Concerto)
Osanna (Landscape of Life, l'uomo, and Palepoli)
Celeste (Principe di giorno)
il Balletto di Bronzo (YS)
Semiramis (Semiramis)
If you find you like the genre, you can find more about Italian stuff in The Return of Italian Pop.
http://www.btf.it/default.asp?ij=3&qa=p&qb=sc&xy=cl007&jk=355&zp=104D&ln=E&opt=dettaglio - http://www.btf.it/default.asp?ij=3&qa=p&qb=sc&xy =cl007&jk=355&zp=104D&ln=E&opt=dettaglio
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 12:20
Damn good collection. One of the best posted here so far. The lack of
Marillion and other mainstream neo-prog just makes it all the better.
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 01:32
some Italian prog suggestions
Picchio dal Pozzo - same
Il Volo - Essere, o non essere!
Sensations Fix - Portable Madness
Luciano Basso - Voci(hard one to find)
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 01:38
I was expecting you would have an excellent collection!!!!!! Awesome pic in the sig by the way
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 01:43
Evidently we don't really see eye to eye on most music related matters...
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 02:00
I was sure here is a five page list, which I could spend my whole day on. Well...
Amon Düül (in all incarnations) - I have only heard "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2, which I truly liked. I'm working on checking the rest of them, as I have time. Ash Ra Tempel - Their freeform psychedelic improvisations are my absolute favourites! ELP - Their 1st and "Pictures at an Exhibition" are suberb Genesis - "Trespass" is my favourite, two next are also good. Gentle Giant - I have "Octopus", but somehow it didn't sound very special to me as I listened it thorugh. But I was young then, I should listen it again. Greenslade - Their 1st album goes for the five stars! Others sound more or less little boring to me. Hawkwind - Some are classic albums, some are terrible ****. Jade Warrior - "Released" is my favourite of them. I have their 70's material only. Jethro Tull - "Agualung" is my favourite, and all from 60's. King Crimson - 72-74 80's albums are also great. Pink Floyd - Material done with Syd + early non-studio materials before "Meddle". "Animals" is also good album. Tangerine Dream - "Rubycon" is my favourite, I have tried the others, but they didn't feel as good as it... Van der Graaf Generator - I like their 70's albums, "Godbluff" being my favourite- Yes - Anything up to 1976
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 12:19
Revised and complete list of our collection; new additions in red. The first list was off the top of my head. I also listed solo projects of artists that played in certain bands seperately this time. This especially refers to bands like Gong and Hawkwind. The entry for "Amon Düül" was split up into three, as should be done. Unless otherwise noted we have ALL of the official records of the listed artists.
Aera Agitation Free Aksak Maboul Allen, Daevid (including his collaborations with others) Amon Düül (German) Amon Düül (British) Amon Düül 2 Anderson, Jon (only "Olias of Sunhillow") Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe Anima Annexus Quam Aphrodite's Child (only "666") Art Bears Arzachel Ash Ra Tempel Ashra Atlantis (not quite prog, though they have their prog influences; I'll name them nevertheless) Atomic Rooster Bainbridge, Harvey Barrett, Syd Belew, Adrian Between (not in the archives yet! Philippe, your job!) Birth Control Blake, Tim Blegvad, Peter Blegvad; Peter & Greaves, John Blodwyn Pig Boulé, Christian (missing in the archives) Brainbox Brainstorm Brainticket Brand X Brock, Dave Bruford Bunka, Roman Calvert, Robert Camel (only until Rain Dances) Can Captain Beyond Caravan Catapilla Catharsis Circus (British, not listed in the archives, a band in which Mel Collins of King Crimson played, only one eponymous record from 1970) Clearlight Cluster Colosseum Colosseum II Cosmic Jokers Cross, David Curved Air Deep Freeze Mice (they definitely should be in the archives!!!) Deuter (not in the archives yet! another job for Philippe) Dissidenten, Die Dzyan (missing the first self-titled one) Earthworks Echo City (not yet in the archives; a band, in which Guy Evans of VdGG played) Egg ELP Embryo Eno, Brian (why the hell is he not in the archives?) Eroc (only first 2 albums) Far East Family Band (only "Nipponjin") Faust Floh de Cologne (Krautrock, not in the archives; only "Geier-Symphonie") Focus Fripp, Robert Fripp & Eno Froese, Edgar Frumpy (Jean and I consider them to be prog, they should be added) Fruup (only "Modern Masquerades") Gabriel, Peter Genesis (with some exceptions here; we stopped after "Seconds Out") Gentle Giant Gila Giles, Giles & Fripp Gilgamesh Goblin Göttsching, Manuel Golowin, Sergius Gong Gongzilla Greenslade Greenslade, Dave Grobschnitt Gryphon GTR Guru Guru Hackett, Steve Hamel, Peter Michael Hammill, Peter Hammill, Peter & Evans, Guy Hansson, Bo Harmonia Hatfield and the North Hawkwind Henry Cow Here and Now High Tide Highdelberg (one-off album with members of Guru Guru, Cluster and Kraan) Hillage, Steve Hoelderlin Howe, Steve Ihre Kinder In Cahoots (not in the archives!!!) Inner City Unit (prog punk; yes, we are of the opinion this category exists; Inner City Unit are proof for that) Invisible Opera Company of Tibet (also not in the archives yet!) Jade Warrior Jane Jethro Tull Jobson, Eddie Joliffe, Steve (only "Journies Out of the Body"; missing in the archives) Kalacakra Karrer, Chris Khan King Crimson Kraan Kraftwerk Krause, Dagmar La Düsseldorf Lancaster, Jack Liliental Long Hello, The Magma Manzanera, Phil (should be added to the archives) Matching Mole Missus Beastly Moebius & Roedelius Mother Gong Moraz, Patrick Mythos (only first album) National Health Nektar Neu New York Gong Pink Fairies Pink Floyd Planet Gong Popol Vuh Oldfield, Mike (up to a certain point; we didn't need the 37th variation of "Tubular Bells") Ougenweide Ozric Tentacles Queen Quiet Sun Quintessence Release Music Orchestra (fusion oriented Krautrock; not in the archives yet) Residents, The Return to Forever Richard Wahnfried Roedelius, Hans Joachim Roland und die Dadadogs (not in the archives) Rother, Michael (only "Sterntaler" and "Flammende Herzen") Ruphus Sahara (Krautrock, not in the archives; we only have "Sunrise" of their albums) Schnitzler, Konrad (only "Con", "Rot" and "Blau", his albums are hard to get, since they mostly appear in very limited editions only) Schulze, Klaus Smyth, Gilli Snakefinger Soft Head Soft Heap Soft Machine Sphynx, Nik Turner's Squire, Chris Swindells, Steve (only "Fresh Blood") Tangerine Dream (only up until "Le Parc") Traffic Turner, Nik (not in the archives yet) UK Univers Zero University of Errors (not in the archives yet) Utopia (German) Utopia (Todd Rundgren's) Van der Graaf Generator Vander, Christian Vangelis Vanilla Fudge Verdeaux, Cyrille Wakeman, Rick (only a few albums though) Wallenstein (only first three albums) Weather Report Weidörje Wolf Wyatt, Robert Xhol Caravan Yatha Sidhra Yes Zappa, Frank 801
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 12:46
Aera? Area probably?
Grobschnitt, Bo Hansson, Kraftwerk: I admire them to some extent
Patrick Moraz: don't like his solo stuff very much
Ozric Tentacles, Tangerine Dream: can't get into them yet
Queen: I like them a bit, not much
The Residents: they made some pretty good stuff; don't like everything
Vangelis: I like some albums a lot, some leave me indifferent
GTR: a few good tunes, for the rest very commercial stuff
Olias of Sunhillow, Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe, Aphrodite's Child, Peter Blegvad, Brand X, Camel, Caravan, Curved Air, Earthworks, ELP, Focus, Robert Fripp, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Gong, Gryphon, Steve Hackett, Peter Hammill, Hatfield and the North, Hoelderlin, Jethro Tull, Eddie Jobson, King Crimson, National Health, Nektar, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Return to Forever, Soft Machine, Traffic, UK, Van der Graaf Generator, Wakeman, Rick (only a few albums, indeed), Robert Wyatt, Yes:
for a lot of what they did
And for the rest: I still have a lot of music to discover
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 12:59
Moogtron III wrote:
Aera? Area probably?
Grobschnitt, Bo Hansson, Kraftwerk: I admire them to some extent
Patrick Moraz: don't like his solo stuff very much
Ozric Tentacles, Tangerine Dream: can't get into them yet
Queen: I like them a bit, not much
The Residents: they made some pretty good stuff; don't like everything
Vangelis: I like some albums a lot, some leave me indifferent
GTR: a few good tunes, for the rest very commercial stuff
Olias of Sunhillow, Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe, Aphrodite's Child, Peter Blegvad, Brand X, Camel, Caravan, Curved Air, Earthworks, ELP, Focus, Robert Fripp, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Gong, Gryphon, Steve Hackett, Peter Hammill, Hatfield and the North, Hoelderlin, Jethro Tull, Eddie Jobson, King Crimson, National Health, Nektar, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Return to Forever, Soft Machine, Traffic, UK, Van der Graaf Generator, Wakeman, Rick (only a few albums, indeed), Robert Wyatt, Yes:
for a lot of what they did
And for the rest: I still have a lot of music to discover
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:30
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:31
BaldFriede wrote:
Eno, Brian (why the hell is he not in the archives?) |
Look more closely..
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1639 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=1639
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:36
No Zappa?
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:43
You should listen to some Opeth, if Metal ends at Black Sabbath for you.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:45
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
No Zappa? |
Darn, I copied and pasted, and he was last in the list, I missed him. Of course we have Zappa! Thanks for telling me of the omission!
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:49
Very nice, I'm jealous and inspired by the collection!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 13:57
BaldFriede wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
No Zappa? |
Darn, I copied and pasted, and he was last in the list, I missed him. Of course we have Zappa! Thanks for telling me of the omission!
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You're welcome.
BTW: Your collection really lacks Keneally ... it even rhymes.
http://www.radiokeneally.com - http://www.radiokeneally.com
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:22
Only artists? No albums?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:25
King of Loss wrote:
Only artists? No albums? |
Read again. I said at the beginning that, unless noted otherwise, we have ALL of the albums of the listed artists.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:29
BaldFriede wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Only artists? No albums? |
Read again. I said at the beginning that, unless noted otherwise, we have ALL of the albums of the listed artists.
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Wow. That is amazing
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:32
You should recommend some music to me.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:34
Certainly. Just tell me what you like, and I will gladly give you some advice.
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:39
Fantastic. I like very technical and jammy music, but not too
meandering, and groovy or funky. I'm a fan of solos and very
tight melody, and excellent drumming (I'm a drummer). I hope I'm
not being too vague here.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:45
I'm a drummer too. Let's shake hands! Gilgamesh or In Cahoots could be bands for you; also Soft Head and Soft Heap. That is if you like your drumming jazzy. If you like it more rocky, some early Guru Guru, like "Hinten" or "Känguru" would be excellent for you.
By the way, who is your preferred drummer?
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:51
My preferred drummer in prog is probably Pierre Moerlen. I also love Vinnie Colaiuta.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:53
Let's shake hands again! Moerlen is my drum-God too!
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 14:57
Excellent! Yeah, after hearing the second and third albums in the
Gong trilogy I was like, ...alright, he's the man. R.I.P....
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:04
Yes, too bad St. Peter was of the same opinion as we and wanted him for his houseband.
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:09
Heh. I'm checking out the Gilgamesh sample from the site,
excellent. Now, I have to find their albums somehow. I'd
have to download considering I don't ever get $.
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:10
By the way, Phil Lee's guitar in this song is DELICIOUS.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:11
The keyboarder of Gilgamesh is also a member of St. Peter's houseband. Leukemia.
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:16
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:17
BaldFriede wrote:
Eno, Brian (why the hell is he not in the archives?)
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Great question.
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:27
By the way, could you recommend me something like Can? By the way, Jaki is also a great drummer, agreed?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:41
Yes, certainly he is. Unfortunately Can is pretty unique; but if you like Jaki you should try the Phantom Band, in which he was drummer for a while.
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:42
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:46
"Excuse my while I suck your blood, excuse me when I phone you. I've got everyone of your records, man, doesn't that mean that I own you"?
Peter Hammill, "Energy Vampires"
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Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:46
Well if you'd read you'd realize that the 2 own every album from the listed artists unless otherwise noted.
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:47
While recommendations are being given away kindly, can I have a band that writes songs in epic style and uses a lot of flute? Name bands that are not known by every person here, yet are not so obscure, that I will never find them. :)
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 15:50
Mother Gong, "Fairy Tales", uses a lot of flute, and it has recently been issued on CD by Spalax (was previously available on vinyl only). The flute is played by Didier Malherbe, by the way.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 16:49
BaldFriede wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Aera? Area probably?
Grobschnitt, Bo Hansson, Kraftwerk: I admire them to some extent
Patrick Moraz: don't like his solo stuff very much
Ozric Tentacles, Tangerine Dream: can't get into them yet
Queen: I like them a bit, not much
The Residents: they made some pretty good stuff; don't like everything
Vangelis: I like some albums a lot, some leave me indifferent
GTR: a few good tunes, for the rest very commercial stuff
Olias of Sunhillow, Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe, Aphrodite's Child, Peter Blegvad, Brand X, Camel, Caravan, Curved Air, Earthworks, ELP, Focus, Robert Fripp, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Gong, Gryphon, Steve Hackett, Peter Hammill, Hatfield and the North, Hoelderlin, Jethro Tull, Eddie Jobson, King Crimson, National Health, Nektar, Pink Floyd, Mike Oldfield, Return to Forever, Soft Machine, Traffic, UK, Van der Graaf Generator, Wakeman, Rick (only a few albums, indeed), Robert Wyatt, Yes:
for a lot of what they did
And for the rest: I still have a lot of music to discover
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Okay! Still more to discover
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 04:49
A splendid collection - John Greaves should definitely be in the archives, what do you think about including Peter Blegvad? Most of his solo work is borderline IMO - much as I love his albums, and in particular his gift as a lyricist, the songs are not particularly adventurous musically. On the other hand, we've got Kevin Ayers and Syd Barrett in the archive and Blegvad's work sits nicely alongside theirs. What do you think?
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 05:10
Syzygy wrote:
A splendid collection - John Greaves should definitely be in the archives, what do you think about including Peter Blegvad? Most of his solo work is borderline IMO - much as I love his albums, and in particular his gift as a lyricist, the songs are not particularly adventurous musically. On the other hand, we've got Kevin Ayers and Syd Barrett in the archive and Blegvad's work sits nicely alongside theirs. What do you think? |
I agree with you he is borderline; he is close to folk even on some albums. His collaboration with John Greaves though is definitely prog (a wonderfully dadaistic album), as is his work with Slap Happy. (Which just reminds me; I think I forgot to add Slap Happy to my list).
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 08:08
Just added the Third Ear Band to our collection, which I had forgotten for some reason. I hope this is all I forgot; with a collection as big as ours one can never be sure. I deliberately left out Uriah Heep though (of which we only have the albums up to "The Magician's Birthday"). If bands like Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple are not considered to be prog, Uriah Heep should not be included in the archives either. At least that's my opinion about them.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 17:47
Just added Holger Czukay, Helmut Hattler, Tab Two and Peter Wolbrand to our collection. I had left them out for some reason (getting old, losing memory, etc...).
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Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 17:53
BaldFriede wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Only artists? No albums? |
Read again. I said at the beginning that, unless noted otherwise, we have ALL of the albums of the listed artists.
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Jesus H. Christ...
How long have you been collecting prog? You seem to have everything except the metal side which is fine considering all the other stuff.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 17:58
Well, my brother started it in the late 60s. He is 10 years older than I am, but he only listens to classical and jazz now, so he gave all his other albums to me. Jean inherited a few albums from her parents, who were hippies in the late 60s. And then we collected ourselves, of course.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:02
the icon of sin wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Only artists? No albums? |
Read again. I said at the beginning that, unless noted otherwise, we have ALL of the albums of the listed artists.
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Jesus H. Christ...
How long have you been collecting prog? You seem to have everything except the metal side which is fine considering all the other stuff.
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No matter how diverse the collection is, ignoring a genre as a whole is narrow minded. There are tons of remarkable prog metal albums out there ... Certif1ed started a nice thread about the prog metal "gems".
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:24
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
the icon of sin wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Only artists? No albums? |
Read again. I said at the beginning that, unless noted otherwise, we have ALL of the albums of the listed artists.
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Jesus H. Christ...
How long have you been collecting prog? You seem to have everything except the metal side which is fine considering all the other stuff.
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No matter how diverse the collection is, ignoring a genre as a whole is narrow minded. There are tons of remarkable prog metal albums out there ... Certif1ed started a nice thread about the prog metal "gems".
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We don't collect for collecting's sake, we collect the music we like. And metal is not really among it. We know some of the gems, but no thanks. There are very few bands of the metal genré we like. And there are other things that have a higher priority on our list for possible next acquisitions. We may eventually get to the few metal bands we like, but first things first.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:31
BaldFriede wrote:
We don't collect for collecting's sake, we collect the music we like. And metal is not really among it. We know some of the gems, but no thanks. There are very few bands of the metal genré we like. And there are other things that have a higher priority on our list for possible next acquisitions. We may eventually get to the few metal bands we like, but first things first.
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Your collection seems pretty complete to me for some genres. what type of music are you currently looking for?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:50
We'll definitely expand our collection with some Italian prog. By the way, the prog-metal band we like best (well, at least some of them; they had a singer once whom we are not so fond of) is not in the archives.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:50
BaldFriede wrote:
We'll definitely expand our collection with some
Italian prog. By the way, the prog-metal band we like best (well,
at least some of them; they had a singer once whom we are not so fond
of) is not in the archives. |
Name of...?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:53
Skyclad. They have a violonist in their band, which makes them quite interesting.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:55
BaldFriede wrote:
Skyclad. They have a violonist in their band, which makes them quite interesting. |
Wow, you like Skyclad? That's like close to DEATH METAL????
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 18:56
I had an album by Skyclad a few years ago. Before I'd heard of prog. Their singer/lyricist is superb. Very intelligent band.
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Posted By: dolina vila
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 03:13
Posted By: dolina vila
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 03:20
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
the icon of sin wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Only artists? No albums? |
Read again. I said at the beginning that, unless noted otherwise, we have ALL of the albums of the listed artists.
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Jesus H. Christ...
How long have you been collecting prog? You seem to have everything except the metal side which is fine considering all the other stuff.
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No matter how diverse the collection is, ignoring a genre as a whole is narrow minded. There are tons of remarkable prog metal albums out there ... Certif1ed started a nice thread about the prog metal "gems".
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I,m shocked.Does domebody have a piece of sugar and a glass water, or better a big piece of VALLIUM. ha,ha,ha.... , but you don,t have nothing of Wishbone Ash, and I will send to you one excellent song.he,he,he....
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 03:44
Exellent choice of albums.
Where did you get Brainstorm ? I'm trying to collect their albums on CD
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 03:50
we have their albums on vinyl only; Friede's brother had them, and he gave his collection to her. since he is 10 years older than Friede he may even have bought them the regular way: in a store
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:30
dolina vila wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
No matter how diverse the collection is, ignoring a genre as a whole is narrow minded. There are tons of remarkable prog metal albums out there ... Certif1ed started a nice thread about the prog metal "gems".
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I,m shocked.Does domebody have a piece of sugar and a glass water, or better a big piece of VALLIUM. ha,ha,ha.... , but you don,t have nothing of Wishbone Ash, and I will send to you one excellent song.he,he,he....
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I know Wishbone Ash ... they're quite good. Interesting Blues Rock ... I love Jailbait.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:35
by the way, we have Wishbone Ash. Friede only listed our prog albums
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:40
Where's Mike Patton? You don't have any Mr. Bungle, Fantomas, Kaada, Mike Patton solo albums, Tomahawk ...
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:47
we have what we have, and that's basically because we know of the artists we have. we can't have artists we don't know about. we might as well ask other people: "where's Mother Gong?", for example, when we see their collection. no-one's knowledge is complete
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:50
BaldJean wrote:
we have what we have, and that's basically because we know of the artists we have. we can't have artists we don't know about. we might as well ask other people: "where's Mother Gong?", for example, when we see their collection. no-one's knowledge is complete |
What I meant was: WHY don't you have any Mike Patton albums - not interested, low priority, don't like him, ...
I just think that you might like Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante or Kaada ...
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:07
quite simple: we never even heard the name "Mike Patton" before we entered this forum some 2 or 3 months ago. we collect on our own, we are not in connection with any other collectors, and we never referred to any websites before to look for interesting new prospects. about half of our collection is inherited from Friede's brother and my parents (there were some overlappings, which we weeded out). we acquire new artists mostly by this principle: A played on a record of artist B, and artist A also has a few solo album out, or he played with artist B. then we either get a solo album or a record of artist B. thus our collection is mostly like a kind of family tree. sometimes we venture into an unknown artist when we like an album cover or the line-up of instruments on it, and some of our best acquisitions were made that way. we don't study any magazines for new acquisitions, and this is the only message board about rock music we attend. this may not be the way others collect, but it is our way
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:30
BaldJean wrote:
A played on a record of artist B, and artist A also has a few solo album out, or he played with artist B. then we either get a solo album or a record of artist B. thus our collection is mostly like a kind of family tree. sometimes we venture into an unknown artist when we like an album cover or the line-up of instruments on it, and some of our best acquisitions were made that way. we don't study any magazines for new acquisitions, and this is the only message board about rock music we attend. this may not be the way others collect, but it is our way
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I understand why you would do that - I guess that there are two different approaches:
- Focus on music/musicians you already know and try to get ALL their albums, and then try to explore musical "neighbors".
- Try to listen to all kinds of music - the more different from what you know, the better.
Both approaches have their advantages ... I try to do both. Today the second approach is much easier than like 10 years ago - if you have a broadband internet connection, you can test-drive virtually every artist right from your living room ... the artists offer free samples, progarchives offers samples, http://www.last.fm - www.last.fm offer their free radio streams ...
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:37
we welcome recommendations though. and as I said, we sometimes venture into unknown territory because we like an album cover or the line-up on it.but we refuse to study all kinds of magazines just to get new reommendations. we have a long wishlist, and it is steadily growing, although we keep buying and buying. we will always be behind
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 05:44
BaldJean wrote:
we welcome recommendations though. and as I said, we sometimes venture into unknown territory because we like an album cover or the line-up on it.but we refuse to study all kinds of magazines just to get new reommendations. we have a long wishlist, and it is steadily growing, although we keep buying and buying. we will always be behind |
That's why I don't try to "complete" my collection - such an attempt will ultimately fail. I try to complete my collection for a handful of artists, but I have no intentions to become a completionist - why buy all CAN albums just because I like Future Days, when I still don't have any Sleepytime Gorilla Museum or Godspeed You Black Emperor?
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:02
it is a different approach. we try to combine both, but if we really like an artist we surely want the output completely. but we draw a line somewhere. we don't need to have every obscure single or bootleg (we don't have any bootlegs), we are content with the albums. if the singles of an artist are published on a sampler we may buy it, provided there are not too many tracks on the sampler we already have; else we lack a little bit of the artist. it is not our fault, in my opinion, it is the artist's fault. why the heck did he/she/they publish a single?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:08
BaldJean wrote:
it is a different approach. we try to combine both, but if we really like an artist we surely want the output completely. but we draw a line somewhere. we don't need to have every obscure single or bootleg (we don't have any bootlegs), we are content with the albums. if the singles of an artist are published on a sampler we may buy it, provided there are not too many tracks on the sampler we already have; else we lack a little bit of the artist. it is not our fault, in my opinion, it is the artist's fault. why the heck did he/she/they publish a single? |
Good question ... I don't buy any singles. I also don't like live albums, unless they contains some particularly spectacular moments. I try to limit myself to studio albums and live DVDs ...
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:14
that's where we definitely differ. we love live albums. with the really good bands they are so miuch better than the studio albums. buying a life album of Gensis is nonsense though, in my opinion, with the exception of the first, and that only because of some moments in "The Return of the Giant Hogweed" (the way Hackett shows the anger of the plants) and the superb version of "The Knife" with a much better guitar solo than in the studio version
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 06:24
BaldJean wrote:
that's where we definitely differ. we love live albums. with the really good bands they are so miuch better than the studio albums. buying a life album of Gensis is nonsense though, in my opinion, with the exception of the first, and that only because of some moments in "The Return of the Giant Hogweed" (the way Hackett shows the anger of the plants) and the superb version of "The Knife" with a much better guitar solo than in the studio version |
It really depends on the artist. I love Frank Zappa live albums - I have all YCDTOSAs, Live in new York, Jazz Noise, Roxy, Broadway, Best Band ... like I said: If the live album contains some really special moments, then I have to have it. But given the joice, I'd prefer live DVDs ... especially for artists which I never had (and never will have) the pleasure to see live, like Zappa, Spock's Beard, Pink Floyd.
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Posted By: dolina vila
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 09:26
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
dolina vila wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
No matter how diverse the collection is, ignoring a genre as a whole is narrow minded. There are tons of remarkable prog metal albums out there ... Certif1ed started a nice thread about the prog metal "gems".
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I,m shocked.Does domebody have a piece of sugar and a glass water, or better a big piece of VALLIUM. ha,ha,ha.... , but you don,t have nothing of Wishbone Ash, and I will send to you one excellent song.he,he,he....
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I know Wishbone Ash ... they're quite good. Interesting Blues Rock ... I love Jailbait.
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Some people prefer album "Argus", some people say "Pilgrime" is the best, but I love their first album "Wishbone Asf". I appreciate your opinion, becouce you are only man who has Danzig in your collection.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 09:34
Why, I'm flattered ... but I'm not an expert on Wishbone Ash, I only know "Pilgrimage" (the album with Jailbait on it).
Danzig are very good ... Sabbath meets AC/DC meets Elvis (love Danzig's voice).
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Posted By: dolina vila
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 16:27
BaldJean wrote:
we have what we have, and that's basically because we know of the artists we have. we can't have artists we don't know about. we might as well ask other people: "where's Mother Gong?", for example, when we see their collection. no-one's knowledge is complete |
I have a question.I just saw you don,t have Magna Carta. Did you forget it, or you naven,t??
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 22:39
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 22:41
Sorry, seriously..I am VERY impressed, I think what impresses me the most, is how MUCH I DONT KNOW!! Seems to be more to discover out there...now I need a 2nd job..
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