Most Overrated Band of the 'Big Six'
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Topic: Most Overrated Band of the 'Big Six'
Posted By: Floydoid
Subject: Most Overrated Band of the 'Big Six'
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:05
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Lately I've been seeing more usage of the term 'Big Six' in terms of prog rock bands, and it got me wondering which (if any) you consider to be the most overrated. So... vote away and discuss. ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:07
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Yessssssss more polls to focus my hatred of ELP in. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:09
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Never understood what was so great about JT, nor why they should be included as a Tier 1 prog band. |
Posted By: Skalla-Grim
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:14
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Clearly Pink Floyd. I don't hate them, some of their songs are really great, but they're not prog according to my definition (great sound design and some nice melodies, but no complexity). I would actually replace them with Gentle Giant and Van der Graaf Generator in the above list. |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:19
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The most 'overrated' band of the 'big six' is 'Genesis'. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:39
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All six are freaking amazing no vote ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:42
me neither, I always chalked it up to a bad early experience with Aqualung, but I guess it's not just me.
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Padraic wrote:Posted By: condor
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:46
| ELP, the least original of the six. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:53
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King Crimson has released some remarkably overrated albums, so they get my vote. ------------- 
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:55
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easily genesis most overrated Not my choice tier 1 either...why no VdGG, why Jethro Tull? |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:56
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none are overrated |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 10:59
I've merely listed the 'big six' as they are most often quoted elsewhere. ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:01
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ELP easily ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:01
Admittedly the only album of theirs I can get into is Pictures at an Exhibition... I'd put that on my top 10 album list of all time. ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:11
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Genesis, of course. I've never been able to listen to an entire album apart of Lamb. If we forget things like Love Beach I like ELP. None of the others can be called overrated even if I can't call myself a Tull fan. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:28
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None of them are overrated to my ears, so no vote. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:52
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Voted for ELP by error. I meant Jethro Tull. -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 11:57
| ELP, I will never understand how anyone could like them. |
Posted By: bj_waters
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 12:10
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While I still can't vote, I'm going to say that it's a good thing this time, as I don't think I've listened to enough of all of the bands. (I'm only truly familiar with Yes and Pink Floyd, and as I love both of them, I can't consider them overrated!) I really need to listen to more prog. However, I am curious about the idea of "The Big 6." Is this a consensus of prog fans in general? Are there no others that qualify? Is six too many? (For the record, I am familiar with "The Big 4" of Thrash Metal and have opinions about that. I've even contemplated a personal "Big 4" for Power Metal, if you're curious.)
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Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 12:34
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It's obvious, so obvious: ELP. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 12:47
| King Crimson-I like the first 3 albums, but after that, they kind of lose me. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 13:09
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Isn't this just another way of asking which famous prog band you dig the least? ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Ali.A
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 13:26
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Pink Floyd easily |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 13:31
Yes but you look cooler doing it this way. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 13:37
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I've never met anybody who actually likes ELP so I voted Genesis |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 14:05
| King Crimson beating off a strong challenge by ELP. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 14:05
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First vote for Yes I'm afraid. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 14:43
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Mmm, I'd say King Crimson or Jethro are the ones I like the least. But I love the six bands. For me it's: 1-Floyd 2-Genesis 3-Yes 4-ELP 5-Jethro 6-KC ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 15:22
Same---I mean I have some of their music but it hasn't held up for me like the others---but I prefer groups with a strong guitarist.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 15:27
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It's not a Malmsteen solo but.... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 15:36
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Oh, it would have to be 'Tull, wouldn't it? A spotty record (no pun intended) of some very good albums mixed in with some real dogs, all the while plagued by wild personnel shifts. Sigh. Don't get me wrong - A Passion Play is in my Top 20! ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 15:41
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ELP over Yes ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 15:54
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None of them are overrated. ELP and Jethro usually get some hate about being in the top tier. The others deserve the spot. The band I dislike the most is ELP but all of them are amazing. ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: Skalla-Grim
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 16:23
I also read about a Big 4 (which would be Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, and ELP) which i.m.o. makes more sense than the "Big Six" this thread is based on. My personal choice would actually be a "Big Seven", consisting of Genesis, Gentle Giant, Yes, ELP, King Crimson, Jethro Tull and Van der Graaf Generator. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 16:29
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Posted By: bj_waters
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 17:11
Wow, TEN? That's too many! (Six is pushing it, really.) I could see a Big 5: Pink Floyd, King Crimson, ELP, Yes, Genesis (I'm less certain about Jethro Tull's impact and legacy compared to those five). I would agree that Rush is too late, like a second wave of prog or something. Of course, this all leans quite heavily on the Symphonic Prog style (including 70s Pink Floyd), so it's probably not as representative as it could be, but if we want to talk about popularity, impact, and legacy and things like that, it would be hard to include other styles of prog. (Then again, I consider myself a prog newb, so I'm probably wrong.)
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 17:27
If you're going to include Camel and VDGG and Gentle Giant, you might as well add in Magma and Caravan and Gong and Soft Machine and basically every other band anybody off this site has heard of.
Greg Lake more like Greg Cake amirite |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 17:49
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interested in ELP, but not as good as the others, so that gets my vote ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 18:17
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The most overrated band should be the one with the least votes. Think about it. ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 18:20
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Asia should be in this list. ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 18:43
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Genesis - highly rated and thoroughly deserve to be for making some of the best albums ever recorded. Pink Floyd - done many outstanding and some pretty poor albums, but they deserve their high rating Jethro Tull - undoubtedly a tier 1 band based on longevity and success, and they've made at least 6 excellent albums, so not overrated. Yes - on the strength of several excellent albums, they probably deserve their high reputation. ELP - Trilogy and the debut are worth a listen and BSS and PAAE aren't bad, but they are a bit overhyped. KC - deserve credit for innovation and being at the very start of the genre, but I find their music horribly self-indulgent and pretentious. I did quite like the debut when it came out, but I now find them almost unlistenable except for a few tracks. So KC get my vote as most overrated. As for VDGG, they never had anything like the success to make them a tier 1 band in the 70s. They're far more popular now than they were then - but Peter Hamill's voice makes them a no-go area for me. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 19:49
| I think this list includes the big-6 of "progressive rock", not prog, which is a genre as it stands these days, not an approach to writing/composing/orchestrating music, so this might lead to some confusion. |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 21:53
| Nevermind, I should have voted KC. They are probably the most overrated even though I like a little bit of their stuff. |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 22:15
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for the perfect mix of meh music and insanely annoying vocals/front man it's got to be Genesis -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 22:22
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Who is 'overrating' ELP? All I ever see is hate for them. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 22:45
Many see it as hip to lash out against ELP. Some cool kids who smoke outside the gymnasium told them it was so they submitted to peer pressure and it's now their reality. ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 23:17
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my personal big 6 are Gong, Magma, Amon Düül 2, Hawkwind, VdGG and Can -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 23:18
I don't see it as hip, I simply just don't like them.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 29 2015 at 23:18
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Posted By: SquonkHunter
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 00:02
Same here. Of the six choices, they all have some some things I did not like but KC probably did the most that I didn't like. The others, not as much. ------------- "You never had the things you thought you should have had and you'll not get them now..." |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 07:17
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ELP, IMHO ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 07:23
Ah because we don't like a band it must be because we are sheep not that we don't actually like the band, glad you explained that for me. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Terakonin
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 07:44
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ELP, but all good. ------------- You left a note in your perfect script Stay as long as you like I haven't left your bed since |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 08:12
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None of them is overrated. All of them deserved their highest places in the hierarchy of 70s progressive music. Though, Pink Floyd weren't regarded as a progressive rock band but as a psychedelic rock band back in the day, and I say this as a big fan of the greatest psychedelic rock albums ever made, like Meddle, Obscured by Clouds, Wish You Were Here and Animals. |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 08:27
For my next trick maybe I'll attempt to explain what having a sense of humor is like. ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 09:45
Now that is a top list
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 12:30
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All of them have Albums that "I Love" and Albums that "I don't Like". I want to vote base on this formula :
(Number of "I don't Like" albums) / (Number of All Albums)
I vote to biggest number of this formula. I count only Studio albums and Ignore other released.
Genesis : 8/15 = 0.533
Yes : 7/19 = 0.368 Pink Floyd : 5/15 = 0.333
Jethro Tull : 7/22 = 0.318 E.L.P : 3/10 = 0.300
King Crimson : 4/16 = 0.250
And the final result is : Genesis (I vote to Genesis)
This is not a good way for answering to this question and if I vote from deep of my heart ,then I vote to another one.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 14:11
Yes they most certainly were. They were one of THE archetypal progressive rock bands in the late 60/early 70s on the London scene. I should know - I was there. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 14:40
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Definitely Pink Floyd, for the reasons (not limited to) above. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 16:52
How can you mention Animules and not Dark Side of the Moon? For shame, sir, for SHAME! ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 16:59
So you like pictures of beautiful women (that broad from MythBusters is kind of a pig). So what. So do I, but how ordinary. How about some Butta' faces ("Everything about her is fine butta' face.")? ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 17:47
| NONE, they're all great. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 18:03
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by "overrated". If one was strictly going on record sales, King Crimson would be the last by a tens of millions margin. If you were to go on output or longevity, it would have to be ELP. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 20:39
| I voted Yes, because I couldn't vote for (against) any of the others. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 30 2015 at 21:41
Actually, I do like Wish you were here and Animals more than Dark Side of the Moon... perhaps even Meddle too (Echoes is better than anything on Dark Side). |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 02:28
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"Animals" is in my opinion below par; it sounds to me as if PF did not get their asses out of their seats for it. "Meddle" on the other hand is excellent, all of it, even "Seamus", which is hated by many (I have no idea why) ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Altairius
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 02:30
| I don't think you people quite get the meaning of "overrated". |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 03:02
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^ Sure we do and the word is absolutely meaningless. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 06:07
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 06:13
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 10:36
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None of these bands is in my personal "Big Six". -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 11:00
| ^ Ofcourse. You have your own opinion and Point Of View. Can I ask you What are your "Big Six"? |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 11:16
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I'd probably go along with BaldJean. Those bands are much more interesting. But I would not go for "Big Six" anyway. Why not name a Top Ten? That would for me include Embryo, Tangerine Dream, The Ozric Tentacles (the only band not founded in the 70s or late 60s) and King Crimson (the only of the "Big Six" I would include in that Top Ten) besides Hawkwind, Gong, Magma, Amon Düül 2, Van der Graaf Generator and Can. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 11:44
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I don't know about "History of making BIG SIX" . I mean I don't know why these bands make "Big Six" and as you said why not Top Ten? I like all of them plus "Tangerine Dream" , "Magma" , "Can" , "Van Der Graaf Generator" , "Renaissance" and ... BUT not all of their albums and I can't say which of them better. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 13:20
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 18:12
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 01:32
I do like Meddle, and most of it is pleasant. But I feel A Pillow of Winds and Fearless are good, but not as exciting as other stuff the band has released, San Tropez is a bit less to my taste, and Seamus is the one I like least on the album. Strangely enough, I find Mademoisell Knobs sort of pleasant on Live at Pompeii... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 10:42
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Well for me it has to be Pink Floyd...I have always thought they were overrated. For me many of their albums and tracks are just not that great and somewhat boring at times. I suppose I could say the same for ELP after BSS. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 10:50
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Meddle has half an hour of great music (Echoes+OOTD) and the rest is OK. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: Skalla-Grim
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 13:16
Do you know Sensations Fix? Judging from your preferences (Gong, Hawkwind, Ozrics), I'm sure you would like them. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 01 2015 at 22:05
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Something is overrated because it has more popular opinions attributed to it than others. Therefore it is not good. Is this the "logic" behind this overrated idea? However, the trouble here (for me) is there are other artists (e.g K West) who seem to achieve considerable acclaim yet to me is over rated (largely because to me he sounds like Frank Spencer fronting Motorhead)... Still trying to reconcile all this overrating thing... re the above 6 pop groups... Far and away too many fine albums by these bands. Veto. |
Posted By: bj_waters
Date Posted: November 02 2015 at 10:19
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In my opinion, saying something is "overrated" is entirely subjective. It simply means that you don't like something as much as many other people do. For example, lots of people like licorice candy. I don't care for licorice candy. Therefore, I think licorice candy is overrated. The reverse is true, if you want something to be underrated. For example: I think 90s Yes (Talk, Open Your Eyes, The Ladder) is awesome. Most Prog Rock fans don't like those much (if at all). Therefore, I think 90s Yes is underrated. It's worth noting that saying something is overrated doesn't necessarily mean you hate it, just that you don't like it as much as most other people. As for this poll, I interpreted it as "out of these famous prog rock bands, which of these (in your opinion) deserve the least amount of praise." It doesn't mean that they don't deserve praise, just not as much as people may have given them over time (again, in your opinion).
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Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: November 02 2015 at 11:33
| They are all essential except the one which i find rather Dull.. |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: November 05 2015 at 09:10
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ELP aren't overrated, so no vote. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 05:17
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I look at things in terms of popular critical opinion and, that being the case, ELP shouldn't be on this list as they've been whipping boys for decades (Jethro Tull isn't far behind in that respect). You might like them and say they're under-rated, but they're hardly critics' darlings so they can't be over-rated. Of this list, the truly respected bands would be Genesis (they're in the Rock Hall of Fame, which is some sort of indicator), Pink Floyd, and Crimson (even when prog took a critical beating, it was okay with hipper-than-thou critics to like KC and VdGG). Of those three I like PF the least, from Dark Side forward (absolutely love Piper and Saucerful, though!) so that's where my vote went. Honestly though, I never considered them or JT part of the prog scene in the 70s (a lot of prog fans didn't, evidenced by a fair number of folks on here and progressiveears feeling the same way; Rolling Stone's Encyclopedia of Rock didn't include PF part of the prog scene either) but I know some people do, so fair enough. Genesis aren't my cuppa anymore either, from any era. Haven't heard any recent Crimson stuff (like, from the 90s onward) but I still like a lot of the 70s stuff. I find Can, Magma, and VdGG far more interesting than any of these groups but they've sold a fraction of what these bands have sold so it's a pretty accurate / honest Big Six list. For instance, VdGG achieved modest success in England in the 70s, but where they might play to 1,500 (a respectable crowd at a nice theater), any of the bands on this list, barring KC, could be playing to 15,000 on the same night (certainly by the late 70s for Genesis). ------------- jc |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 05:46
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I don't understand how they can be overrated - I mean, most folks here (where I live, not PA, I should add) I talk to have never heard of these bands - I suppose Genesis tends to be the most famous. But as far as 'overrated', I can't grasp the concept. I'd say that the Black Eyed Peas and Ed Shearan are overrated coz thousands know them and they just crank out piles of 💩. Now that's overrated. |
Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: November 19 2015 at 18:16
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Reluctant to even answer this one, but have to go with Jethro Tull, even though I really love three of JTs albums (not including Aqualung). ------------- Z |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 20 2015 at 10:01
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^If you're going to single out Aqualung, I'd be interested in knowing what the three albums are that you think are better. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: November 20 2015 at 10:16
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^ aye. ------------- - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 20 2015 at 17:15
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I'm a Tull fan and I would take Stand Up, Benefit, Songs From The Wood before Lung....but then it's a close call. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: November 20 2015 at 18:36
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How Jethro Tull can be an overrated band if they are the least rated (in numbers and grades) of the above groups, and only two albums are in the PA Top 100 list? I mean, ok you dont like it, but I guess that there is a faire number of like/dislikes on JT - enough for them to not be overrated. ------------- - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 06:08
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Oh, what a surprise - stick the boot into ELP! Water off a duck's back - us ELP fans have been putting up with this since the mid-70s.... |
Posted By: Follix
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 13:05
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When you say ''overrated'' do you mean in the real world or in the prog world? Because overall only Pink Floyd achieved huge commercial success, Genesis is next but most people think of them after Gabriel was gone and it's not prog anymore so it doesn't really count. IMO Pink Floyd did 2 albums that were really prog: WYWH and Animals, maybe The Division Bell all the rest is space rock, art rock, acid rock, psychedelic rock, rock... So overrated in the real world it can only be Pink Floyd, even tho I wouldn't agree, overrated on PA well I don't know. |
Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 15:01
Thick as a Brick is number 2 and was number 1. ELP doesn't have an album in the top 60 or so. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place |
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 16:33
Yeah, but thats only TAAB. I mean, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Yes and King Crimson are waaaayyyy better rated overall. I was thinking "overall". Ah, this overrated things are too damn confusing!  ------------- - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 17:07
I think that is the point. You always hear about them but in reality they aren't that special, that's why people rate them lower. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 17:51
Tull wipes the floor with all those bands. Their outtakes and singles are quite often their best tracks and there's over 100 of them. Crazy amount of songs. They aren't an album band to me, they're a song band. Some albums were styled in a certain way and some songs were a bit commercial for me but they averaged 15 songs per year during the 70s. Every album had some gems plus another few gems were kept off every one of those albums. Now playing Commercial traveller from 1976. Love it. Fine prog track. It's probably their best song from that year  ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 18:03
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Floyd are the overrated band. Very limited to slow music. Not outstanding musicians either. Gilmour plays nice though. Crimson are next. They didn't even do an album from 1975-1980. That's the 2nd best era in rock music after 1969-74 and they weren't around. When they were around from 69-74 they had countless changes and were hard to follow as a band. Changing singer, bass player, drummer every year for 4 years. Loved them when Lake, Giles, Mcdonald and Sinfield were there. Nice jazzed up compositions. They lost their melody once those guys left. I'll take the 4 or 5 slow tracks from the Wetton era and the 2 instrumentals Larks and Red. But the rest is ok. Wettons voice sucks when he uses volume imo
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Posted By: David64T
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 18:27
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My definition of over-rated is based on degree of public acclaim for the band (e.g. advocacy or on PA forums and album ratings) vs my own enjoyment from the band's music. I'm open to any advice about how this could be anything other than subjective! On that definition, for me it has to be King Crimson: apart from that first album, and a few other songs here and there, listening to the earlier KC albums leave me feeling like I've been mugged (e.g. Red) or subjected to improvisation that I don't "get", then the music on the '80's KC albums onward too often leaves me cold. That reflects my musical tastes to date of course - I'd much rather choose to listen to The Snow Goose or some Procol Harum than to most KC or VDGG for that matter. But...who knows - at some time in the future my musical palate may evolve to appreciate KC! ------------- Seasons Of Change - weekly programme on community radio: https://seasonsofchangeradio.blogspot.com.au/" rel="nofollow - http://seasonsofchangeradio.blogspot.com.au/ |
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: November 21 2015 at 18:52
but in reality they aren't that special but in reality they aren't that special but in reality they aren't that special I oficially hate you. ------------- - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. |