Drum Solos
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Topic: Drum Solos
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Subject: Drum Solos
Date Posted: June 21 2004 at 16:50
| I love doing drum solos. Once, I went for almost an hour. The other musicians in the band just dropped their instruments and went to smoke or have a beer. My favourite drum solos come from the following drummers: Bill Bruford, Guy Nadon, Carl Palmer, Pierre van der Linden, Jack DeJohnette, Billy Cobham and John Bohnham. I t was just amazing when he would throw the sticks away and beat away with his hands. I would have liked to see Kieth Moon solo. But he was so crazy within the band I guess it wasn`t nessacry. |
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Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: June 21 2004 at 17:24
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Yes indeed, drum solos are awesome...
I saw a Mike Portnoy solo live
 and I love the "Moby Dick" solo on Led Zep's DVD But if you have a bad drummer doing a solo it is boring and annoying, I saw a Led Zep cover band and the Moby Dick Solo was boring and I wanted it to be over...
------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: 5 minute solo
Date Posted: June 21 2004 at 17:30
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Some drummers probably have the potential to go on for extensive amounts of time but are held back. Sometimes life seems so unfair! ------------- You want the spoon? You can't handle the spoon! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: June 21 2004 at 17:51
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Terry Bozzio: Solo Drum Music takes soloing to a new level. Bozzio seems to be soloing in every tune he plays on. Pierre Morlien's Percolations off Gazuese is incendiary.
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Posted By: Focussed
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 03:49
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Drum solos have to be interesting and varied if they are going to go on for more than two minutes! The likes of Peart, Bonham and Palmer were all masters in this respect. The other alternative, of course is to blow the stage up to classical music, like Cozy Powell did. This compensates for the lack of imagination in the drumming itself.. Now, I'm going to take cover while all the Cozy Powell fanatics on this forum load up their cannons and take aim at me..!! ------------- 'You cant have two killers living on the same patch!' |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 03:55
I have the album "Drawing The Circle" from Terry Bozzio... amazing! Fantastic! So if you think prog rock lacks drum solos, buy or download this album from Terry Bozzio... it's an entire disc full of drum solo! |
danbo wrote:Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 11:05
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 15:29
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Can't stand drum solos myself. In my youth I used to have great "heated debates" down the pub as to whether or not drums were a musical instrument. I kept a section from one the music magazines of the 70's (Sounds/NME/Melody maker, not sure which) which had a section called "Cruely Corner". It read: This week - Drum solos (by Tim Lott) What does the following onomatopoeic representation suggest to you? ABOMADOMABOMADOMABOMADOMABOMADOMABOMADOMKSCHKTEKSCHKTEKSCHKT EKSHKTEKSCHTEKSCHTEKSCHTERENTATENTRENTATENTRENTATENTRENTATEN T ZZZZZZZZZZ. The correct answer is "a drum solo". Question 2. A drum solo is one of the following.
The correct answer is D). Mind you, even that falls short of the truth. Drum solos are also boring, ego-tripping, invariably overlong, and endlessly stultifying. Worse still they're virtually impossible to avoid. Like a nuclear holocaust, the warning signs are obvious but there's no escape. The lead up and execution always follow a pattern, half way through what might be an otherwise fairly listenable song, the more intelligent members of the band make a run for it backstage, while Monster Muppet sits perched intently behind his skins, an insane, almost sadistic gleam in his eye. There is a commotion in the audience as the more sensitive souls make a desperate vain dash for the bog: but too late. From the stage comes the endless rumble of discordant ego-charged thunder, horrible in its inevitability. The cacophony builds, a martyr's sweat break out on the torturer's brow, But an odd majority of the audience pretend - inexplicably - to enjoy the percussive ramblings. It is this response, presumably, that encourages drummers to shag themselves out "pleasing" the crowd. However, I am unable to accept that the masochism ratio is so high as to engulf most of the audience, and one can hardly put such bizarre occurrences down to a matter of mere politeness. So, there must be another explanation. Once you have established the fact that everybody hates drum solos - audiences, fellow band members (who being at least superficially human, very likely feel as aurally offended as all the other unwilling participants), and even drummers (who must surely bore themselves) - the solution is clear. There is no doubt in my mind that Ludwig Ltd. And similar drum manufacturing concerns actually plant employees in very audience. These employees are meticulously trained to clap in an authentic fashion, yell gleefully, nod their corporate heads determinedly, and generally synthesise a whole spectrum of complementary messages. The unwilling drummer, seeing how much he is "pleasing" the audience, goes to even greater extents to knock the sh*t out of his drum kit. Even though, at the end of it all, the drum kit remains partially intact, it's life can hardly fail to have been considerably shortened. Result? An increase in turnover and profits for the various drum makers. This vicious and exploitative practice must end now. Make a stand. Physically restrain the drummer if necessary. But whatever - abort at all costs. The very fabric of music is at stake. Says it all really! |
Posted By: 5 minute solo
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 15:49
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I admit that if a drum solo went on for half an hour it would get boring but like a guitar solo or a bass solo or a keyboard, violin, chello, saxophone etc solo the drum solo represents artistic license. It's like those people in music magazines complaining that bands aren't doing what they want them to but in the end is it thier dicision to make? No! An artist has then right to play what they want for however long they wish to. ------------- You want the spoon? You can't handle the spoon! |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 16:22
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If you want drum solos, check out Christian Vander's "Korusz", each solo is about 20 min. But I don't like myself drum solos, I prefer to them guitar (Steve Morse's solo on Deep Purple's live is amazing) or keyboard solos (anything Jordan Rudess plays live solo). ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 17:02
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The "Drum Solo" can be tastefully done in certain circumstances. Sometimes nothing more that a few bars. For the most part, the drummer sits behind a kit, nearly invisible, while the keybards, guitars, sax..... all get their share of the spotlight. Even the bass player can wander to the edge of the stage and check out the cleavage (you know you do...), while Mr. Metronome clicks along without notice. That solo is the chance to shine and get noticed, maybe even get laid. A discriminating drummer will show some flash, toss a stick to a someone he fancies and it's back to the shadows. Even drummers need love. Give 'em break.... |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 17:11
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Love it Danbo! Check out the cleavage indeed... |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 17:19
Even bass players are human !!!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 22 2004 at 17:26
| Drum solos are nothing more that 'pissing contests' really.Carl Palmer used to play so fast that the audience could only but be in awe of his ablity.But it means very little in itself as far as artistic expression goes except that the live theatre aspect of rock shows demands it. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 23 2004 at 12:22
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But surely, since there are forms of music based almost entirely upon rhythm (I wasn't talking about dance music, but certain Eastern folk traditions), it makes sense that a drum solo can be musical, surely? And I think if tuned percussion is used, there's no argument, unless you oppose solos of any type..? |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 23 2004 at 12:27
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I would also like to point out the most impressive drum solo I've ever seen is on a video of a guy playing on three buckets in the street, http://crew.tweakers.net/RobinVreul.../StreetDrum.mpg - http://crew.tweakers.net/RobinVreul.../StreetDrum.mpg |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: June 23 2004 at 19:16
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Easy Livin's magazine cutting strikes a chord with me, as some of the rock band drum solos I've seen have been absolutely terrible. Can I say "gratuitous drumming"? But I think that's partly because the drummer's approach was completely wrong, because percussion solos can be great. I've seen some percussion solos by non-rock bands (various so-called World Music bands) that have been fabulous. I have two albums that are entirely percussion and they are amazing - I never tire of listening to them. |
Posted By: arqwave
Date Posted: June 23 2004 at 20:48
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FIRST AS A DRUMMER I DISAGREE WITH ESAY LIVING... In my case i defend th fact that every musician has the right to be in the spotlight to expose it's art or whatever you want to call it, and also i agree that sometimes, the drummer feels that he is the center of the universe and we must pay a tribute by suffering 30 minutes hearing him. To me a Solo is the way that the jazz men do it, a very close encounter in between the music and the groove, a very delicate pause interacting with silences and the band, a very fine exposure of drumming, i mean, a "musical" way, some prog artists do it that way: Terry Bozzio, Neil Peart, Bill Bruford, (certainly Mike Portnoy doesn't do it that way), if you want to hear good solos, just pick a record of Keith Jarrett, and hear the master Jack Dejohnette, or as FITZCARRALDO noted, hear albums like "planet drum" from Mickey Hart to understand the process of drums as a "melodic " instrument, as a musical voice in my early youth i liked the blasting solos from the heavy metal guys until one day i heard in a live situation to Mr. Elvin Jones, then i understood how stupid i was, and then i ran directly to the music store and bought a instructional video from Bozzio, and my world got expanded peace ------------- between darkness and light |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: June 24 2004 at 04:31
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More drumsolos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! More anything that proves, That the person knows what he´s doin, as opposed to the RAP-PEOPLE, who only got a big mouth and no talent to make 10,000 dollars just by being BAD and FAKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: June 24 2004 at 04:33
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Do I hate Amateurs............................................ no YES I DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: June 24 2004 at 10:39
Crikey, "suffering." That's the reason I go to concerts, there's not enough pain at home.
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Posted By: theis the one
Date Posted: June 25 2004 at 18:26
maybe you don't believe it but the drummer from 3 Doors Down, make a crazy drum solo on tour and i mean CRAZY  that was the top.------------- Theis|Shogun |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 08 2005 at 17:01
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Seems like you guys were discussing this before. What the hell didnt you talk about?? ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: RUM37
Date Posted: July 08 2005 at 23:03
listen to made in japan (deep purple) huge drum solo by ian pace ------------- SHEP get with the program |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: July 08 2005 at 23:08
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PORTNOY CANT SOLO
FOR ME? THE RYTHEM METHOD- PEART KICKS ASS |
Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: July 08 2005 at 23:10
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Neil Peart has amazing drum solos, all the way back from '74 on. I have a lot of Rush boot shows and his solos never disappoint! I mean, how many drummers out there have had drum solos nominated for a Grammy??
-Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: beterdedthnred4
Date Posted: July 08 2005 at 23:11
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Best drum solo: Phlak, phlak, phlakaton, chaff, ker-chaffa, ker-chaffa, boom, ca ca, boomcaca, toom, flippit, flippit, rappatappatappatappa, pish! Phlakaton by National Health |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 08 2005 at 23:24
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everyone on this thread is drunk.
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Posted By: Phallusdei
Date Posted: July 09 2005 at 11:32
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Drummers who launch into solo's should have their arms surgically removed and have the sockets sealed up with lead. The most tedious and pointless waste of time known to man. I saw Led Zeppelin at Earls Court in 1975 and the crowd slow hand clapped during Moby Dick.Vile.
Kraftwerk had the right idea about drummers. -------------  
"The only notes worth bothering with come in wads" |
Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: July 09 2005 at 12:40
No you didn't, because Zeppelin had stopped playing Moby Dick by then. ------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: Phallusdei
Date Posted: July 09 2005 at 12:42
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"The only notes worth bothering with come in wads" |
Posted By: Coya
Date Posted: July 09 2005 at 17:17
Does any of you actually like Bill Bruford's solo on the song Perpetual Change from the album Yessongs? I think it's pretty bad, I mean, nothing spectacular. What's your opinion? (Don't missunderstand me, I love Yes, Yessongs and Bill Bruford, I just think it's a bad solo)  .
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Posted By: dolina vila
Date Posted: July 09 2005 at 18:48
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Hi, Vibrationbaby. If you like "drum-solo" try a song of band Can. Song,s name is "Mother sky". This is the best druming I ever heard in my 30 years in rock@ roll life. If you like to hear best drumer of the world , than bay first album Warhorse. You will be surprised. Don,t kill itself after that. |
Posted By: Phallusdei
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 14:20
Jaki Leibeziet is the greatest rock drummer of any era. The man was a machine. -------------
"The only notes worth bothering with come in wads" |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 15:11
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There is an awesome drum solo (8 mn +) included as a bonus track on Colosseum's 'Daughter of time'. And you can find many drum solos in jazz records such as Thelonious Monk's 'Brilliant corners'. But overall, I don't like drum solos, and think they ruin the coherence of a song when included in it. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 17:28
Indeed, that'd be Jon Hiseman, a great drummer. I've got that track (I think it's called _Time Lament_) on CD and it's great. I like shorter drum solos mind, like those that Keef Hartley did with the Keef Hartley Band. The one I am thinking of was about 15 or so seconds. A local band I've seen do a drum solo and the drummer (a friend of mine from school's father) gets off his stool, plays a little on the drum kit and then starts wandering about, hitting trays, glasses (both glasses and the glasses you wear!) and tables. It lasts about 10 minutes. All this is done halfway through a cover of the instrumental track _Wipeout_. Having seen him do this after 3 or 4 times now, it's got a tad tedious! The guitarist (a friend of mine and the brother of the friend I went to school with) is an excellent guitarist, but he does a lot of tapping, slashing and plays behind his back and with his teeth... If only they didn't do covers... James. -------------   
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Posted By: tinsolja
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 18:50
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Billy Cobham - Birds Of Fire
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Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 19:15
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Dance with the Devil by Cozy Powell was one of the first singles I bought, a great track I still occasionally play. That was sort of a drum solo set to music (lifted from Hendrix's Third Stone from the Sun if I remember). Radar Love by Golden Earring has a great drum break in the middle by the immortally named Cesar Zuiderwijk (1973 was obviously a good year for drums). The Colosseum track was called Time Machine. Hiseman was a superb drummer and it's a brilliant solo for at least the first 4/5 minutes, although as with most lengthy drum solos interest starts to wane eventually. ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: July 10 2005 at 19:48
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So no one likes drum solos, but It's okay for a guitarist to go on for however long they want? Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
As a drummer, It is always nice to hear a drum solo once in ahwile. The drummer is arguably the most important member of the band. They keep time, Provide rythm, and can give most any song a good upping in likeability. It's a shame nobody respects us. |
Posted By: Coya
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 14:16
I do agree with you, but everyone respects you! You can steal the show with just one well done solo, well, and the girls too. |