Biggest A-hole In Prog
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Topic: Biggest A-hole In Prog
Posted By: nimrodel
Subject: Biggest A-hole In Prog
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 12:19
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so we are talking about real a-hole in prog history! is it: A) phill "greasybald" collins B) keith "irulethisband" emerson C) you tell me. so who is the greatest a-hole in prog? ------------- We want... a shrubbery! |
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 12:20
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C) David "imbetterthaneveryone" Glimour ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 12:21
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I never thought Phil or Keith (lake is worse) are that bad Robert Fripp and Roger Waters take the cake but I believe there is already a thread on this ------------- 
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Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 12:26
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I got a really interesting insight into Keith "irulethisband" Emerson after reading his autobiography, Pictures of an Exhibitionist. I think maybe it was Greg "irulethisband" Lake in that unit  .A great read, by the way..... How about Robert "will the gentleman with the camera, please pass it forward?" Fripp as the biggest a-hole in prog? ------------- The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol |
Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 12:45
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I've never met any famous prog musicians...have you? It's hard to tell
what someone's really like from stories and conjecture. Fripp gets pilloried quite a lot for being unpleasant, but then there are some people who say he's quite nice. Anyone have any personal stories about a-hole progsters? |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 13:36
fripp once killed my puppy ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 13:40
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At least he's ridding the world of that menace (sp??) ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
stonebeard wrote:Posted By: ProgPartin
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 13:41
| I can only base my opion on hearsay because I have not met them. Although I have met Malmsteen and he is a piece of work. Very arogant. Gave very little room for other players with him to express themselves, very controlling of everything around him and the music |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 13:46
you're not even sure how to spell menace? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 13:48
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I've heard that Malmsteen fellow is quite the odd character...he likes to
unleash the fury! |
Posted By: Retrovertigo
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 14:02
| It's just that Malmsteen is drunk all the time. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 14:03
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Yeah, that sure is a funny audio fragment... |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 14:04
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Well... I've met Fripp, and actually spent some time talking with him, as well as having a beer with him and Eno. Whatever he may be like "in a band," he is one of the most reserved, kind gentlemen it has ever been my pleasure to spend time with. Perhaps he simply "doesn't suffer fools gladly." Again, although I have no idea what they may be like "in a band," I've met the following proggers socially, with the following results: Gabriel: Met him post-Genesis. A truly sweet, even humble man. Gilmour: Met him in 1995. Kind, funny, engaging. Yes (Anderson, Squire, Howe): Met them on The Ladder tour. Nice, engaging people. Actually also had a private dinner with Squire and his manager once. Squire was a bit reserved then, but by no means unkind or mean-spirited. He just seemed tired. Belew: Met him during the Levin/Bruford Crimson years. Funny, engaging, sweet. Wakeman: Haven't met him personally, but spent quite some time interviewing him for the site. My comments on him - honest comments, not "sucking up" - can be found in the preface to the interview. He was also quite kind in a short tete-a-tete in which I had some more personal questions, many of which he answered quite humbly. Re Emerson, Lake, Wakeman and others, you'd have to speak with threefates, who spent more time with them than I did. Peace. |
Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 14:08
| Hey Maani, you ever meet Steve Kilbey? |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 14:08
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manni: showing off our prog friends, are we? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 16:12
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I met Bill Bruford at one of his drum clinics. And he is one dry and sarcastic SOB! But in a friendly way. And hilarious too. Great sense of humor.
Then I met Carl Palmer at one of his clinics and he was just the opposite. Really good natured guy. |
Posted By: maani
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 16:28
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Heptade: No, but boy have I tried! I wanted to interview them, but that never happened. I caught them live quite a few times, but never got to speak to him (or any of them, for that matter). Given that they are among my five favorite bands in the world, I would very much like to meet them, especially Kilbey, whom I consider among the great rock poets (along with Dylan, Morrison, Mitchell, et al). Who know? Kilbey may still agree to that interview... Peace. P.S. My review on this site of "Forget Yourself" was "lifted" into their official site... |
Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 17:00
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Cool, Maani. I've had some email contact with MWP-
I've written a few reviews for Newspaper Taxi, his review site (which is pretty damn good, by the way). They seem like great guys, although some have accused Kilbey of being aloof. But those were probably fan-boy types who expected him to have a halo like a demi-god or something. Anyway, the Church is definitely one of my top 1-5 bands as well. I've listened to them since the Starfish days. |
Posted By: Chris88
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 17:23
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Not really prog but Yngwie malmsteen pissed off the entire country of Brazil edit-after looking at the thread again i see people already mentioned him so its not just me that thinks hes a jerk |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 19:54
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Ive met Wakeman twice, he came across as a really nice guy, very funny. When I first moved to LA i became the typical 'waiter - musician' on the west coast. So i met alot of musicians, most came across as really warm people, cant honestly say Ive met anyone who was an asshole. Met Patrick moraz, he was cool. Oddly one of the nicest people I met was the late Joe Strummer of the Clash, not prog, but a really nice person. I would really be curious to meet Steven Wilson, however, coz he always seems to come across as arrogant in interviews, wonder what he is like in person.
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Posted By: Littlewashu5
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 20:22
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Do we have to choose just one? Most of the members of Pink Floyd are pretty big assholes. If we want to call them Prog Radiohead's Thom Yorke is pretty bad also. Probably got a big head after being world's greatest musician one too many times....... |
Posted By: Tiresias
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 22:24
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I've heard Jon Anderson is very aloof and easygoing Billy Sheehan is very sharp-witted but still friendly Tony Levin is supposed to be very kind and approachable ------------- Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn... 
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: August 20 2005 at 02:52
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robert fripp seems like a total jakass to me. i ca nt tremmeber who or
in what album unless i think really hard( which im not gonna do!) but
he wouldnt let anywone contribute to making the album, he mader one
bandmemebr cry and leave because he didnt even take a slightest
of looks at this guys music matreal.....thats MEAN! and why dont you
SMIle for once!?.... dammit MAANI!, i wish i could met some of these guys!
..some day theyyll are gonna wish to meet ME! AHAHAH..im serous people! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 22 2005 at 03:57
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Fripp would take the prog cake but the everest would be Ritchie Blackmore! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 22 2005 at 05:00
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So true... As much as I love Blackmore's guitar playing, the stories I've heard of him are pretty awful, especially the way he treated Ian Gillan when they were in Purple together. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: August 22 2005 at 10:48
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Unfortunately true! ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 22 2005 at 11:08
not only Gillan , ask Simper , Evans , Glover , Hughes, most of Rainbow members I met the asshole backstage in 85 in Toronto on a pass handed by Lord. As I came for an autograph , he was not only rude but completely disrepectful! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 08:04
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Don't know why anyone would say Emerson or Lake... and not because of my relationship with them.. but they have always treated their fans with respect and Greg is actually rather charming and outgoing to everyone... He can be arrogant with assholes and play the part of a spoilt rocker every now and then when he was young... but never have I seen him be rude to fans or people in general. Robert Fripp - well Maani might have had a good meeting with him.. but I have seen him be rude and disrespectful on several occasions. He is a strange character and you have to watch what you say around him... David Gilmour - lovely, generous and sweet... altho in recent years he's not as outgoing as he used to be... but then if you had millions of people trying to still get to you after all these years.. asking the same damn questions.. and you're 59 years old, have 8 kids, 4 small ones still at home... you'd be a bit cranky also! Roger Waters... right up there with Fripp... he can be nice, and then he will say the most stupidiest things... he can't seem to control himself... Rick Wakeman - funny, charming.. and can't resist a lovely women.. Jon Anderson - always a gentleman, but somehow in the last few years he's become so cheesy.. Steven Wilson - just adorable. According to the PT photographer.. Lasse, either Steven really liked me or I caught him on a really good day, but I had a great time with him. He let me pose him... and strangle him.. and he let me follow him around and take pictures while he shopped for obscure european metal albums... he did however buy the Godspeed You Black Emperor cd... and we had a great conversation about both not liking sports.. and what he's doing later with Blackfield... so yes, I did quite like Steven Wilson!
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 01:15
| Threefates your wrong, greg lake often did disrespet there roadies! its a complete lie if you day he dont. Lol, for gosh sakes one time Grweg lake THrew a guitar At a roadie because he trip[eed and fell, and didnt get it to him on time, serouisly! He said it was too f**king late now! although probly everybad did it at some point, ive heard plenty from elp. ...and from greg lake! |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 01:21
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My opinion goes for Phil "destroyerofgenesisandgoodmusic" Collins.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 04:05
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Blaming Collins for the Genesis downfall is completely wrong.... Do you think a cointrol freak such as Banks would've allowed a non-original member to change direction without his complete agreement. Read somewhere in the forum someone quoting Collins as saying about banks that : you could certainly not force Banks into something he did not totally agreed upon! This is the very reason for hackett leaving..... because banks would simply not do anything Hackett was to do, if he did not agree to it first! So the blame for the genesis metamorphosis is to go to Banks. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 04:13
I agree, you can't blame Phil for that; he didn't right all the material. Also, we cannot forget that even Mike was leaning on the poppier side of things....Mike and the Mechanics ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
. I am assuming that is correct about Banks (I really don't know myself), but seriously STOP placing the blame only on Phil.Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 06:02
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Hey I just see the effects after Gabriel left...
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Posted By: jitu
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 06:05
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i know who is it, but i wont tell anybody, ------------- 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 06:07
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Okay,okay,I'll change... Phil "horriblemusiciansingeretc" Collins Tony "destroyerofgenesisandgoodmusic" Banks -------------
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 06:40
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Fripp I guess... Oh, and Kevin Moore. ------------- http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm |
Posted By: Mahonster
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 10:22
| I'm surprised there's been no mention of Devin Townsend... |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 10:39
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Okay,what's the meaning of "A-Hole" here? Cause I see Fripp (and Emerson) and I don't know why... -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 24 2005 at 22:42
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Fripp and Waters. I want to say Wakeman, but the curry thing makes me laugh. -------------   |
Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: August 26 2005 at 04:40
| Don't understand why people are tempted to say Wakeman. He seems like a funny guy. |