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Topic: Is prog only for heterosexuals?Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Subject: Is prog only for heterosexuals?
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 18:50
Hey. Being a big prog fan and a gay man has always been a bit of a weird clash. In fact It's a bit of a rarity as very few gay guys and girls I know really aren't into progressive music at all. Obviously crossover artists can be liked by everyone (for example my ex and I met over a love of the band Nightwish, a band who are even on this site and he even introduced me to Diablo Swing Orchestra).
So...is prog a stereotypical heterosexual thing...
Discuss :)
Replies: Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 18:58
*spits beer on monitor*
I...ahh... that is a new one. After 10 years.. you would think you would have seen it all.
ahhh.. now this is more like it.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 19:04
We actually have a few gay friends who are very much into prog, both as listeners and as musicians. Therefore, based on personal experience, I'd say the answer to your question is "no".
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 19:11
exactly... hey I don't have any day to day real life (non PA's that is ) friends. .straight or not that are into prog. It is lonely existence prog fan has.. has not a thing to do with sexuality. It is why we congregate here. That is why the internet was prime reason number for for the revival of prog. We all finally got to get together!
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 19:23
I am glad someone gay brought this topic up. Sorry for even us hetero's this topic is scraping the barrel dude. Does not deserve a response
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 19:31
yeah.. my first reaction was ...
oh no.. this poster DiD NOT do this..
though I must say.. even though things are getting better here.. .I would think the last damn thing I gay man in the US today would be worried about.. is if Prog is for heterosexuals. 5 to 4 man.. that is 4 ignorants b*****ds for every 5 enlightened people with hearts as well as brains
Like a black man worried if the po po that pulled him over even when he was doing 5 under... are going to dig hip hip playing on his stereo..
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 19:35
Having grown up in San Fran and only knowing one gay guy who liked Tull and Floyd, the answer is yes; Prog is only for heteros.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 19:47
amen David... after having lived many years in the south I can tell you... I met not a single hetero prog fan.
prog is for gay men!!
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 19:58
Prog is for asexuals. Non-asexuals generally adapt.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 20:02
YES!! prog isn't for gay or for straight.. it is for virgins.. that is why prog fans are so rare!!!
It is rule #1 in the great handbook of prog rock. Ye shall not have sex for ye shall not find women who think Rush is cool...
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 20:33
Well, you have more of a chance getting laid whilst wearing an Ed Sheeran 'X' shirt, than wearing a Magma shirt .........(and I have a Kajagoogoo shirt which I don't wear at all......)
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 20:37
Well I'll be watching this one closely
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 20:39
Ok, guys, seriously.
For
homossexuals, every place we live is a place where we have to find an
identity. Do not mock for the question. Every place is heterossexual and
male dominated, and this question is something natural and valid.
The fact that the answer will be "no", because Progressive Rock doesnt have a nature that defines who should listen to it (from every aspect of human life), do not necessarilly invalidate the question.
Arcane, I do understand you. As a gay men myself, I always struggle to find some points of ourselves in Prog Rock. And now we have internet to better comunicate!
Did you listen TAAB2? There is something quite good in there to answer your question.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 20:53
^ No mocking intended though maybe levity, having been reared (pun intended) in a strongly gay city, prog rock was not big in the gay community. Which didn't bother anybody at all. My crowd were retro hippies and were in no position to mock anyone.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 20:57
micky wrote:
YES!! prog isn't for gay or for straight.. it is for virgins.. that is why prog fans are so rare!!!
It is rule #1 in the great handbook of prog rock. Ye shall not have sex for ye shall not find women who think Rush is cool...
Don't forget the sub-clause to rule #1; Even if ye discover she who likes Rush, she will be out of thy league...
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 20:58
levity indeed.. no mocking here man. Though yeah, I did think it strange to ask. Natuarlly my first thought is troll... With all the injustice and bigotry in the world.. who gives a f**k about prog rock and who listens to it. It burns my ass.. I could only imagine how it must those directly affected BY it.
however..you make a damn good point GKR. I can see what you are coming from. A sense of fitting in. However does it not exacty play into the very thing we want to see broken. Damnit man.. you are not defined by your sexuality. I don't care what sexuality you are, no more than I care about the friends Raff and I do have. You judge a person on who they are, not what they are. Same goes with this forum.. you are a good person.. have good tastes.. and love prog rock. You have a home here.. no matter your sexuality.. race.. rellgion..
bah...
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:07
As for an actual response to the post: No, it's not only for any particular group. Music is music, and peoples' individual tastes are just that, their individual tastes. While I may find Ruins and such to be good, other people find them awful and would prefer to listen to anything else they prefer to listen to. Like Micky said, I don't think an individual's sexuality, religion, race, etc. have much of anything to do with it.
We are not defined by our sexualitty until we are. And there the prejudice are born.
And thats the whole pont of this topic. Arcane want to see if there were other people though like him, what kind of things we could hear by this point of view (thats why I already indicate a song/album), etc.
I do feel confortable here, and thats why I think you guys should be trying to find some songs and artists to link with the topic to made Arcane even more comfortable. The world is not Progarchives, its dark and full of terrors.
Thanks for the words, Micky, I wish everyone was like you.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:10
SaltyJon wrote:
micky wrote:
YES!! prog isn't for gay or for straight.. it is for virgins.. that is why prog fans are so rare!!!
It is rule #1 in the great handbook of prog rock. Ye shall not have sex for ye shall not find women who think Rush is cool...
Don't forget the sub-clause to rule #1; Even if ye discover she who likes Rush, she will be out of thy league...
............
but don't forget the sub-clause to to the sub-clause; unless one is a RPI fan.. then that babe is yours...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:18
GKR wrote:
We are not defined by our sexualitty until we are. And there the prejudice are born.
And thats the whole pont of this topic. Arcane want to see if there were other people though like him, what kind of things we could hear by this point of view (thats why I already indicate a song/album), etc.
I do feel confortable here, and thats why I think you guys should be trying to find some songs and artists to link with the topic to made Arcane even more comfortable. The world is not Progarchives, its dark and full of terrors.
Thanks for the words, Micky, I wish everyone was like you.
excellent post... and perhaps someday..
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:18
By the way, Arcane, listen to Secos & Molhados (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpqbbmJ42yU). Sadly not yet in PA they synthesise so much of everything of the early 70's!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:24
a suggestion perhaps...
I do live what I preach and was completely ignorant, until Raff told me, that yes there are a good number of gay members here on the site.
Perhaps a special interest thread where one can find support.. suggestions.. anything from music to larger life issues.
just a thought.. I'm sure the admins can help direct you to where to start one and make sure it is 'watched'. Not that I think there would be any problem.. not on this site for heaven's sakes.
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:29
I was thinking about it just now... Its a good idea.
But tomorrow. Here is almost midnight and I need to sleep.
Good night, everyone.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:32
and to you... sleep tight brother.. busy day tomorrow ...make sure you voted in the polls btw
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:34
^ I've been polled several times and it can be painful ..
.. and on that I'll get my coat
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:35
Prog is for those who cannot follow songs with claps.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:43
Atkingani wrote:
Prog is for those who cannot follow songs with claps.
Ha, I knew the whole "complex time signatures" thing was just a ruse.
As far as gay prog fans go, or LGBT prog fans in general, I have never came across any sort of strong association, although it could just be ignorance on my part. Anecdotally, I am bi and I have always only sort of been into prog. Coincidence?
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:45
Atavachron wrote:
^ I've been polled several times and it can be painful ..
.. and on that I'll get my coat
same here.. though with pool cues.. not pleasant at all
hah... speaking of which... I used to tend bar in a gay bar while in college. Best time of my life (pre-Raff) bar none. Never had so much fun... and I guess that is where the legacy and reputation of the ass and legs of the big Mick got their start. I had to beat the guys off with a stick.. far from being offended.. I was quite pleased. Met the best of friends I had there. Understood it wasn't my thing.. that I was just there for the free booze and the fun.. and I became best of friends with some of the people that came there.
on that note.. I do think I'll grab my shawl and sashay my cute ass out the door...
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:52
Prog is anything except maybe A-sexual, look at Bowie for instance, to me he is the sexiest man alive to date <3 sigh
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:33
This is pretty much sex incarnate, really!
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:38
Andy Webb wrote:
This is pretty much sex incarnate, really!
hahahaa Andy you pretty much killed it here lol I love the pic very much. Photo-shoot with hair fans and all yay xxxx this is prog
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:39
I remember that poster; they were metrosexual before it was hip.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:55
Atavachron wrote:
I remedider that poster; they were metrosexual before it was hip.
having a moustache does not mean you are gay, David Byron had one too and he looked like a hot gay porn star, anyway who cares He is one of the best vocalists to date!
uriah heep - july morning 1972 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRrGNygjzs&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMnzu3X4ADg_4lK7g75AIDM&index=3" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRrGNygjzs&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMnzu3X4ADg_4lK7g75AIDM&index=3
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 01:28
Prog is for everyone. Straight, gay, lesbian, transsexual, transgender... Period.
I think some other genres, like disco, were traditionally more platforms, meeting points for gay people. But not many gay people liking prog or being acquainted to prog doesn't mean that the door is not open.
The photo above reminds me of Queen. There was a time when photo's like these were being made, and I also remember a photo of Queen, which was a bit like that.
Kati also made a point with her mentioning of David Bowie.
Now that I mentioned Queen, they are here on the site, and that... well, is already prove enough for... (return to the first sentence of this post).
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 01:36
Moogtron III wrote:
Prog is for everyone. Straight, gay, lesbian, transsexual, transgender... Period.
I think some other genres, like disco, were traditionally more platforms, meeting points for gay people. But not many gay people liking prog or being acquainted to prog doesn't mean that the door is not open.
The photo above reminds me of Queen. There was a time when photo's like these were being made, and I also remember a photo of Queen, which was a bit like that.
Kati also made a point with her mentioning of David Bowie.
Now that I mentioned Queen, they are here on the site, and that... well, is already prove enough for... (return to the first sentence of this post).
sigh, Bowie is the hottest man alive everything included lol
Big hug to you, Moogtron III
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 01:38
btw what am I? No idea, I am all but A-sexual I think
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:05
Kati wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Prog is for everyone. Straight, gay, lesbian, transsexual, transgender... Period.
I think some other genres, like disco, were traditionally more platforms, meeting points for gay people. But not many gay people liking prog or being acquainted to prog doesn't mean that the door is not open.
The photo above reminds me of Queen. There was a time when photo's like these were being made, and I also remember a photo of Queen, which was a bit like that.
Kati also made a point with her mentioning of David Bowie.
Now that I mentioned Queen, they are here on the site, and that... well, is already prove enough for... (return to the first sentence of this post).
sigh, Bowie is the hottest man alive everything included lol
Big hug to you, Moogtron III
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:09
Moogtron III wrote:
Kati wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Prog is for everyone. Straight, gay, lesbian, transsexual, transgender... Period.
I think some other genres, like disco, were traditionally more platforms, meeting points for gay people. But not many gay people liking prog or being acquainted to prog doesn't mean that the door is not open.
The photo above reminds me of Queen. There was a time when photo's like these were being made, and I also remember a photo of Queen, which was a bit like that.
Kati also made a point with her mentioning of David Bowie.
Now that I mentioned Queen, they are here on the site, and that... well, is already prove enough for... (return to the first sentence of this post).
sigh, Bowie is the hottest man alive everything included lol
Big hug to you, Moogtron III
mhwoaahhhxxxxxxx and here you go: Freddie Mercury David Bowie Under Pressure a Cappella
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:27
Two of the most informative and respected contributors on the forum are a lesbian couple (BaldFriede and BaldJean), so I'd answer "no".
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:30
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Two of the most informative and respected contributors on the forum are a lesbian couple (BaldFriede and BaldJean), so I'd answer "no".
you best keep praying you look cute doing that with your arms
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:39
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Two of the most informative and respected contributors on the forum are a lesbian couple (BaldFriede and BaldJean), so I'd answer "no".
Yes, and there's a transgender member here too.
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:47
Several in fact, it's just that Queen By-Tor is the most active of them.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 02:56
hey prog is all about diversity, if we love Hobbits and all but Pink Unicorns thus why not the transgender community, they are, unlike many of us, sizzling hot and really awesome besides this topic bores me because it feels like we are discussing different species or so which is ridiculous at this dane age, really!
I feel embarrassed myself now.
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 03:04
Kati wrote:
hey prog is all about diversity, if we love Hobbits and all but Pink Unicorns thus why not the transgender community, they are, unlike many of us, sizzling hot and really awesome besides this topic bores me because it feels like we are discussing different species or so which is ridiculous at this dane age, really!
I feel embarrassed myself now.
Well spoken, as usual, Kati
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 03:11
Looking forward to more songs about Hobbits, pink unicorns, narcissistic flowers, gentle giants, flying teapots, swimming saucers etc. Micky, when out of bed, will present us with 64 more modern prog albums about likewise subjects in his polls.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 03:54
Raff wrote:
We actually have a few gay friends who are very much into prog, both as listeners and as musicians. Therefore, based on personal experience, I'd say the answer to your question is "no".
Are the Baldies still around?? They were more surprising than the few gays that are around this site... I mean before they got in here, I was the only lesbian around (albeit a male one << only sleep with the fair sex)
On we go with the big clichés: women are already rather rare in prog circles.... let alone when they pair-up ... and then fondle & diddle each other to prog music. That must be quite a sight!!
AFAIK, we've even got at least one special colab that is gay
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 04:03
Kati wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
I remedider that poster; they were metrosexual before it was hip.
having a moustache does not mean you are gay, David Byron had one too and he looked like a hot gay porn star, anyway who cares He is one of the best vocalists to date!
uriah heep - july morning 1972 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRrGNygjzs&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMnzu3X4ADg_4lK7g75AIDM&index=3" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRrGNygjzs&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMnzu3X4ADg_4lK7g75AIDM&index=3
AFAIK, one of the main trait to being metrosexual is to get rid of all hairs other than the one around your skull.
And Rush were too hairy to fit the future metrosexual craze... despite that their weird kimono sh*t had us teens wondering about their orientation... Something nobody even questionned with the cross-town buddies that dressed much weirder than Rush did: Max Webster
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 04:35
Sean Trane wrote:
Are the Baldies still around?? They were more surprising than the few gays that are around this site... I mean before they got in here, I was the only lesbian around (albeit a male one << only sleep with the fair sex)
Haven't seen the Baldies a long time on the site. Miss them a bit. Very colourful people.
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 04:36
Sean Trane wrote:
AFAIK, one of the main trait to being metrosexual is to get rid of all hairs other than the one around your skull.
Metrosexual = Someone who can only have sex with a click track in the background.
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 04:51
this was exactly my point (what GKR said). I really don't have too much of an opinion of it myself to be honest, I was more wondering what everyones reactions was too this question. Alot of interesting answers and some troll like ones too. Although this question was meant for a discussion, I wasn't favoring any side of the debate...but its still an interesting thought.
If people found out my sexuality, their first opinion of me possibly maybe "he watches RuPaul drag race and loves Lady Gaga, Kylie Minogue, Cher and Britney Spears (for some reason "gay" icons are mostly women)." But I'm the more watches documentaries and listens to Genesis.
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 04:53
its also great to know there are alot of lgbt members on this sight. Now I know I'm not alone in the universe with my love of prog and em....guys
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 05:24
You can be sure of that.
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 06:32
For Arcane:
For Kati: Yes, Bowie is the sexyest man alive.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 06:37
I have a lot friends in the LGBT community, but I must admit I've never really found out whether or not they're into prog. I usually meet them at underground electronic gigs and festivals, which often have a very understanding and open relationship to sexuality. I do know a couple of transgendered folks who are heavily into modern progressive electronic like F*ck Buttons, Flying Lotus, Ochre, Boards of Canada and the likes....maybe I should introduce them to some Klaus Schulze and see if I can make him a sort of gateway into Krautrock for then finally to slap on some KC Nahh maybe not. Every time we meet we're too involved in the dancing and drinking and beeeep to start a regular convertion into prog.
Oh almost forgot; I got an old friend of mine + a dozen of his, who just so happens to be gay, into Manuel Göttsching's beautiful chessboard album (E2 E4). That was actually during a party, where I snuck it in while the DJ was too busy sniffing a table.
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- Douglas Adams
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 06:55
arcane-beautiful wrote:
this was exactly my point (what GKR said). I really don't have too much of an opinion of it myself to be honest, I was more wondering what everyones reactions was too this question. Alot of interesting answers and some troll like ones too. Although this question was meant for a discussion, I wasn't favoring any side of the debate...but its still an interesting thought.
If people found out my sexuality, their first opinion of me possibly maybe "he watches RuPaul drag race and loves Lady Gaga, Kylie Minogue, Cher and Britney Spears (for some reason "gay" icons are mostly women)." But I'm the more watches documentaries and listens to Genesis.
really no debate to be had... you got the answer early on in the thread. Straight or gay.. either you like prog or you don't. Sexuality doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.
A more interesting when it comes to musical dispositions.. yet infinity more touchy question is ... racial? Especially here in the states.
and don't forget Bette Midler Most?.. I can't think of single male gay icon off the top of my head. Perhaps that guy that was a swimmer for the US whose name escapes me.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 06:59
well.. perhaps... Terrence Stamp...
god I loved this movie!! Amazing movie really... especially when stoned...
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 07:31
Spot on, Micky.
Both posts. haha
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 07:40
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 09:32
Kati wrote:
Prog is anything except maybe A-sexual, look at Bowie for instance, to me he is the sexiest man alive to date <3 sigh
You dated David Bowie?
I am impressed.
And appalled. The guy is old enough to be your grandfather.
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 09:36
In my travels, I have known (and performed in prog bands with) gay people, blacks, Hispanics, women, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, Christians, atheists, Scientologists...
I think music has few boundaries.
Hell. Even rap embraced Vanilla Ice.
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 09:46
I don't usually like to be mean, but I have to state my thoughts on this.
This is either one of the dumbest questions I've ever heard or one of the stupidest. Hahaha
Posted By: Gamemako
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 10:31
GKR wrote:
Ok, guys, seriously.
For
homossexuals, every place we live is a place where we have to find an
identity. Do not mock for the question. Every place is heterossexual and
male dominated, and this question is something natural and valid.
Heh, it's an interesting question: are minorities and those who are historically oppressed less likely to seek non-traditional outlets? When you are held to be different than the majority already, do you
compensate by stricter adherence to the cultural norm to which you are
tied? Phrased in the opposite direction, does being in the majority offer more freedom for personal preference and expression? Or could the opposite be true: does being outcast provide a gateway into other alternative lifestyles? I wonder what the data would say. It's clear that culture has a massive impact on preferences, but I wouldn't know whether cultural clash would result in harder lines or more blurred ones. You often see strong polarization when people feel their way of life is threatened by a competing culture, so my gut feeling is that Prog is for heterosexual white males out of happenstance.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 11:14
Gamemako wrote:
GKR wrote:
Ok, guys, seriously.
For
homossexuals, every place we live is a place where we have to find an
identity. Do not mock for the question. Every place is heterossexual and
male dominated, and this question is something natural and valid.
Heh, it's an interesting question: are minorities and those who are historically oppressed less likely to seek non-traditional outlets? When you are held to be different than the majority already, do you
compensate by stricter adherence to the cultural norm to which you are
tied? Phrased in the opposite direction, does being in the majority offer more freedom for personal preference and expression? Or could the opposite be true: does being outcast provide a gateway into other alternative lifestyles? I wonder what the data would say. It's clear that culture has a massive impact on preferences, but I wouldn't know whether cultural clash would result in harder lines or more blurred ones. You often see strong polarization when people feel their way of life is threatened by a competing culture, so my gut feeling is that Prog is for heterosexual white males out of happenstance.
It might only be tangentially related, but I have read an article about Kele from Bloc Party on how he is vastly more accepted in the edm community than the rock community. Found it: https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/bloc-partys-kele-okereke-on-being-gay-and-black-in-the-dance-and-rock-worlds" rel="nofollow - https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/bloc-partys-kele-okereke-on-being-gay-and-black-in-the-dance-and-rock-worlds
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 12:29
Prog is not overtly concerned with love or lust lyrically, and puts itself, by default, into a neutral ground. That's not something you will find in mainstream pop lyrics or in other genres like metal.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 15:35
Evolver wrote:
Kati wrote:
Prog is anything except maybe A-sexual, look at Bowie for instance, to me he is the sexiest man alive to date <3 sigh
You dated David Bowie?
I am impressed.
And appalled. The guy is old enough to be your grandfather.
I wish, but some beautiful dark model with great boobs and legs that go for miles long, knicked him from me umphft bah!
David Bowie is gnack gnack gnack... ageless
Big hug to you, Evolver mhwooahhhhxxxxx
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 15:37
GKR wrote:
For Arcane:
For Kati: Yes, Bowie is the sexyest man alive.
Yes yay!!!!!!
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 15:38
Kati wrote:
Evolver wrote:
Kati wrote:
Prog is anything except maybe A-sexual, look at Bowie for instance, to me he is the sexiest man alive to date <3 sigh
You dated David Bowie?
I am impressed.
And appalled. The guy is old enough to be your grandfather.
I wish, but some beautiful dark model with great boobs and legs that go for miles long, knicked him from me umphft bah!
David Bowie is gnack gnack gnack... ageless
Big hug to you, Evolver mhwooahhhhxxxxx
hahaha
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 15:46
SteveG wrote:
Prog is not overtly concerned with love or lust lyrically, and puts itself, by default, into a neutral ground. That's not something you will find in mainstream pop lyrics or in other genres like metal.
SteveG, hello! m
Well it depends how you look at it, Prog Album covers in 70's were kinda fab and hot tho' i.e. the likes of Blind Faith, Bitches Brew or Santana's Abraxas and offcourse stoned Hendrix Electric Ladyland among others....
Instead of being open minded and progressive these days we seem to have gone back to Victorian era
Hugs! xxxx
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 15:51
Smurph wrote:
I don't usually like to be mean, but I have to state my thoughts on this.
This is either one of the dumbest questions I've ever heard or one of the stupidest. Hahaha
Well it depends, it's a valid question really :) Peter Gabriel wore a red dress and a fox ontop of his head, thus prog holds no boundaries really. There is no such thing as silly when it comes to prog.
Smurph
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:00
btw blind faith album cover is a bit too much even for me.
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:02
Kati wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Prog is not overtly concerned with love or lust lyrically, and puts itself, by default, into a neutral ground. That's not something you will find in mainstream pop lyrics or in other genres like metal.
SteveG, hello! m
Well it depends how you look at it, Prog Album covers in 70's were kinda fab and hot tho' i.e. the likes of Blind Faith, Bitches Brew or Santana's Abraxas and offcourse stoned Hendrix Electric Ladyland among others....
Instead of being open minded and progressive these days we seem to have gone back to Victorian era
Hugs! xxxx
They are not exactly prog, although possibly progressive, but Death Grips have some very un-Victorian era album covers. :)
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:03
Kati wrote:
btw blind faith album cover is a bit too much even for me.
no doubt man...urrrggg..
however if we start talking about the Abraxas cover.. whoa HOOO!!!.. screw playboy.. my fathers copy of that album was what made me into the hot blooded big mick I am today
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:08
micky wrote:
Kati wrote:
btw blind faith album cover is a bit too much even for me.
no doubt man...urrrggg..
however if we start talking about the Abraxas cover.. whoa HOOO!!!.. screw playboy.. my fathers copy of that album was what made me into the hot blooded big mick I am today
ahahahahaha!!!!! hahaha!!!!!! Micky, hahahah you make me laugh now so much hahahaha so funny hahaha!!! Brilliant! lol
Big hug to you hahaha
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:11
back at ya darlin'
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:13
this track gets stuck in your head
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:20
Kati wrote:
btw blind faith album cover is a bit too much even for me.
Agreed, because they shouldn't have asked a young pubescent girl to pose naked for the album cover. She was still a child. Wonderful album BTW
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:23
Prog isn't for heteros for homos. It's for Brits. And Italians.
To be a slightly more serious (but still not serious enough), it seems to me that there are very few LGBT celebrities in the prog-rock community compared to the metal world where Rob Halford or Marissa Martinez (the artist formerly known as Dan Martinez from Cretin) seem to be well accepted.
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:24
Moogtron III wrote:
Kati wrote:
btw blind faith album cover is a bit too much even for me.
Agreed, because they shouldn't have asked a young pubescent girl to pose naked for the album cover. She was still a child. Wonderful album BTW
True, Moogtron III, she was only 14 years old at the time I believe. In regards to the moozik ditto! It is really good on this album.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:30
CPicard wrote:
Prog isn't for heteros for homos. It's for Brits. And Italians.
To be a slightly more serious (but still not serious enough), it seems to me that there are very few LGBT celebrities in the prog-rock community compared to the metal world where Rob Halford or Marissa Martinez (the artist formerly known as Dan Martinez from Cretin) seem to be well accepted.
Also, Cynic have two (2) homosexual members.
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:35
A Person wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Prog isn't for heteros for homos. It's for Brits. And Italians.
To be a slightly more serious (but still not serious enough), it seems to me that there are very few LGBT celebrities in the prog-rock community compared to the metal world where Rob Halford or Marissa Martinez (the artist formerly known as Dan Martinez from Cretin) seem to be well accepted.
Also, Cynic have two (2) homosexual members.
Oh, really? I wasn't aware.
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 16:38
Kati wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Kati wrote:
btw blind faith album cover is a bit too much even for me.
Agreed, because they shouldn't have asked a young pubescent girl to pose naked for the album cover. She was still a child. Wonderful album BTW
True, Moogtron III, she was only 14 years old at the time I believe. In regards to the moozik ditto! It is really good on this album.
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Yes, although she really wanted to pose and the parents consented, but I still don't like it.
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 18:08
For brits:
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 18:23
GKR wrote:
For brits:
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 18:45
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:12
never really found bowie to be that attractive. i think it's the idea of him that is more attractive. he's a chameleon and can be whatever you want him to be
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:17
arcane-beautiful wrote:
never really found bowie to be that attractive. i think it's the idea of him that is more attractive. he's a chameleon and can be whatever you want him to be
is
I think he incredibly sexy, his voice, his creative side, his moozik, his articulate intelligence, his self confidence, he just hoozes sex appeal 360 degrees. Sigh
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:20
arcane-beautiful wrote:
never really found bowie to be that attractive. i think it's the idea of him that is more attractive. he's a chameleon and can be whatever you want him to be
hah... I'm straight and I'm with Sonja... the man is a god.. hell if he told me 'I need you...oh micky your legs are so fine.. oh micky.. oh micky'... I'd say..
I'm yours Mr. Bowie
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:22
micky wrote:
arcane-beautiful wrote:
never really found bowie to be that attractive. i think it's the idea of him that is more attractive. he's a chameleon and can be whatever you want him to be
hah... I'm straight and I'm with Sonja... the man is a god.. hell if he told me 'I need you...oh micky your legs are so fine.. oh micky.. oh micky'... I'd say..
I'm yours Mr. Bowie
hahahahaha Micky hahahaha!!! hahaha!!! I am so glad I just went to the loo hahaha or I'd pee in my pants from laughing right now you hahaha are so funny hahahaha!!!!!
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:24
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:25
hahahaha I am still laughing here thanks to Micky lolol s
Bowie has a very distinctive voice, also his lyrics everyone will perceive them differently. I.e. (I know pa's policy does not allow us to post lyrics thus I will only post a tiny bit not full lyrics)
I heard telephones, opera house, favourite melodies I saw boys, toys electric irons and T.V.'s My brain hurt like a warehouse it had no room to spare I had to cram so many things ... to store everything in there And all the fat-skinny people, and all the tall-short people And all the nobody people, and all the somebody people I never thought I'd need so many people......
Five Years '76 (HIGH QUALITY) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPi09iUAnU&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwM_QhxdQ8EBNtoGg_AeGUSS&index=86" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPi09iUAnU&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwM_QhxdQ8EBNtoGg_AeGUSS&index=86
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:40
Progressive Gods (winck winck nudge nudge) to me:
3 - Mike Oldfield 2 - John Glascock 1 - PETER GABRIEL!
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:43
GKR wrote:
Progressive Gods (winck winck nudge nudge) to me:
3 - Mike Oldfield 2 - John Glascock 1 - PETER GABRIEL!
You forgot to add our favorite grumpy on there aka Robert Fripp
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 19:44
Kati wrote:
GKR wrote:
Progressive Gods (winck winck nudge nudge) to me:
3 - Mike Oldfield 2 - John Glascock 1 - PETER GABRIEL!
You forgot to add our favorite grumpy on there aka Robert Fripp
Oh, you're right. Its a grumpy-cutie kind of thing.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 20:00
GKR wrote:
Kati wrote:
GKR wrote:
Progressive Gods (winck winck nudge nudge) to me:
3 - Mike Oldfield 2 - John Glascock 1 - PETER GABRIEL!
You forgot to add our favorite grumpy on there aka Robert Fripp
Oh, you're right. Its a grumpy-cutie kind of thing.
hahaha yes oh no wait you and I are mistaken now too, the cute funny thing is Bruford
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 20:43
Prog is for ALL FOLKS.........(with strange fetishes)..........
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 20:54
Tom Ozric wrote:
Prog is for ALL FOLKS.........(with strange fetishes)..........
Exactly! Hey, I am all for that except being tied up and wipped lol
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 21:00
I'am still in this topic cause I cant vote in those polls of Micky. Too much modern stuff, I still didnt hear almost nothing from the last twenty years!
...and thats my fetish: the 1970's.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 21:00
^^ Hey ! To tie up and whip a chick is plain morbid and disturbing - definitely not into that side of things.....that's just Duh !! I was ninja'd by GKR.....
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 21:33
GKR wrote:
I'am still in this topic cause I cant vote in those polls of Micky. Too much modern stuff, I still didnt hear almost nothing from the last twenty years!
...and thats my fetish: the 1970's.
most of the motive of those polls was to encourage exploration.. not as much to vote for those you do know.. it was to check out stuff you might like from those you don't. Besides we all know it is going to come down to a SWilson v PT final. It is the journey and the friends you meet along the way that matter with the moderns.. not the distination... a vast mirage...some overhyped soul squeezing corporate entity that only cares for your money and leaves you emotionally bankrupt and soul thristy for something with passion, quality and validity.
hah...
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Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: July 04 2015 at 21:35
Tom Ozric wrote:
^^ Hey ! To tie up and whip a chick is plain morbid and disturbing - definitely not into that side of things.....that's just Duh !! I was ninja'd by GKR.....
Yeah, I can do that.
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