VdGG in Manchester November 13th
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Topic: VdGG in Manchester November 13th
Posted By: NutterAlert
Subject: VdGG in Manchester November 13th
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 04:57
In case you missed them, or want to see them again in UK they will be in Manchester on 13th November. Can book now.
http://www.bridgewater-hall.co.uk/whatson/index.asp?action=display&date=11/13/2005 - http://www.bridgewater-hall.co.uk/whatson/index.asp?action=d isplay&date=11/13/2005
Also dates announced for Hague in Holland and germany.
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 05:01
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 06:02
From Peter Hammill's official homepage: (http://www.sofasound.com )
There are going to be some more VdGG shows this year. Some
are still being negotiated, but now confirmed are the
Leverkusen Jazz festival on 05/11/05 (also to be filmed and
broadcast, shock, horror) and the Crossing Border festival
on 19/11/05. There will almost certainly be some more stuff
but it'll appear here when confirmed....
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 06:14
^ are you going to see them in Leverkusen?
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 06:15
definitely! Leverkusen is only a 20 minute drive from where we live
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 06:17
by the way, a little morsel for Italian fans of Peter Hammill and VdGG (I know there are a lot of them): So here be monsters, here be demons, here be despair, laughter, triumph and disaster. The words are slippery and elusive enough in English, their sense often hidden in cracks between the words and their double and triple meanings. To translate them into Italian is a monumental task... (Peter Hammill)
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER... THE LYRICS FROM ALL CLASSIC (1968-1978) VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR ALBUMS IN A SINGLE BOOK (with italian translation & explanatory/exploratory footnotes)
for some reason the image does not show, go here http://www.phvdggstudygroup.it/libro_eng.htm - http://www.phvdggstudygroup.it/libro_eng.htm to have a look at it
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: August 17 2005 at 06:19
Excellent.
Can't wait to see them again, shouldn't wish away time, but roll on November.
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 09:52
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 13:05
Do you plan to go to Leverkusen, NutterAlert?
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 15:27
BaldFriede wrote:
Do you plan to go to Leverkusen, NutterAlert?
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I'd love to, and to go to one of the Russian shows. All depends
on the money situation, the Rome and Milan trips weren't cheap!.
Got a ticket for Manchester already and probably going to Gateshead.
You two going to any other shows?
Btw, sent Jean a PM re Vdgg, worth checking out.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 18 2005 at 20:42
Grrr, I really do with a gig closer to home in Wiltshire. I know
Peter is resident not too far away, so it's be great for them to
arrange a gig in the south/south west. I know I saw them at
Shepherds Bush Empire, but it'd be great to see them again. And
how a gig for the Welsh fans also?
You can but wish.
James.
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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: August 19 2005 at 23:30
Got me a glasow ticket today, PO REE MEE UMM!!!!
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Posted By: allen36_0
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 16:09
Bought my tickets for the Glasgow ABC in November. Any idea why such an early start - 7pm?
Anybody any info on what have they included on their recent set list at concerts?
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 16:19
This is the track-list from their reunion concert on May 6th this year at the Royal Festival Hall, London:
Undercover Man
Scorched Earth
Refugees
Every Bloody Emperor
Lemmings
(In The) Black Room
Nutter Alert
Darkness (11/11)
Masks
Childlike Faith in Childhood's End
The Sleepwalkers
Man-erg
Killer
Wondering
The last two were the encores.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 18:04
They added _La Rossa_ at the Shepherds Bush Empire gig and it sounded great, so maybe they'll be doing that again...
I am really starting to prefer the "Maida Vale" version of _La Rossa_
to the the "Still Life" version, anyone else feel the same way? I
have yet to get the re-mastered version of "Still Life", so maybe
that's why...
Oh how one can wish for _Squid 1/Squid 2/Octopus_, please VdGG!
James.
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 05:33
They're back. The Generator has whirled back into life once again.
They have taken Russia by storm, as the attached link shows (for all Russian readers). http://gazeta.ru/2005/10/27/oa_175727.shtml - http://gazeta.ru/2005/10/27/oa_175727.shtml
The setlist for St. Petersburg is very much in line with their setlist from earlier this year:
The Undercover Man Scorched Earth Every Bloody Emperor Lemmings (In The) Black Room Nutter Alert Darkness (11/11) Masks Childlike Faith In Childhood's End The Sleepwalkers Man-Erg
Encore: Refugees
Friede & Jean, hope you have a great time on 4th, look forward to reading your concert review. Hope everyone else enjoys seeing them too. Can't wait till my tour round north of England next weekend.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 06:11
NutterAlert wrote:
They're back. The Generator has whirled back into life once again.
They have taken Russia by storm, as the attached link shows (for all Russian readers). http://gazeta.ru/2005/10/27/oa_175727.shtml - http://gazeta.ru/2005/10/27/oa_175727.shtml
The setlist for St. Petersburg is very much in line with their setlist from earlier this year:
The Undercover Man Scorched Earth Every Bloody Emperor Lemmings (In The) Black Room Nutter Alert Darkness (11/11) Masks Childlike Faith In Childhood's End The Sleepwalkers Man-Erg
Encore: Refugees
Friede & Jean, hope you have a great time on 4th, look forward to reading your concert review. Hope everyone else enjoys seeing them too. Can't wait till my tour round north of England next weekend.
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This is an Alta Vista Bablefish translation of the article; quite funny reading, but gives an impression what the article is all about:
Van der Graaf Generator appeared in Moscow and played present prog-fate- concert, as if thirty years of contemporary music simply not were. Somewhat changed in the last thirty years of the tradition of large fate- concerts. Some things, which was completely usual to disintegration Van der Graaf Generator, in our time are not accepted. It is simplest to hint to the lengths. In our time, when in the head in the mean statistical representative of public are accomodated only entirely rather short plain thoughts, usual length of song on the album - 3,5 minutes, on the concert - 4,5. Slozhnosostavnye compositions with a length of 20 minutes - rarity on the present times it is encountered only in entirely already inveterate prog-rokerov, descendants from the past. It cannot be said that Pieter Khemmill his merry grey friends about this do not entirely know - here and on their latter, Post-vossoedinitelñom the album of composition on the average of 8-9 minutes, but indeed in the first in the last thirty years concert stage it is necessary to play exactly old! As a result the discomfiture is obtained. Photographers they according to tradition permit to remove first three, then in the horror they are crossed and say: the "first two songs", and this of the good of half-hour. Or here still: on the contemporary fate- concerts it is not accepted to solo by all simultaneously. To this rule, generally speaking, several hundred years: one soloes, they accompany others, then it is possible to be changed. Exactly thirty - thirty five years ago, during the simfoniko- vanguard art-fate- revolution, this rule were reviewed: appeared the possibility to play four solyaka simultaneously, to one musician to solo during entire appearance without the interruption, to improvise in the different keys, the different rhythms and the different songs simultaneously - and all this was considered the manifestation of thin taste and large mind. It was necessary to refuse at the beginning of the eightieth in connection with the general musical degradation from this freedom, but Van der Graaf exactly then was decomposed, and this misfortune passed past them. Van der Graaf Generator arranged in the theater of stage immense concert. Pieter Khemmill, sickly seden'kiy boy, bent by the arc before the microphonic counter, from time to time took into the hands guitar and it played by the thundering chords, sat down itself for the electronic piano and even it played on it. Opposite it at two "Rolands" sat Hugh banton (earlier it it played on "khammonde", but you sometimes they tried it to convey?) and by feet it sorted out the organ treadle keyboard, which performed the role of bass- guitar. It is obvious that to hire inexpensive sessional bass- guitarist would be not too dearly, and result would come out at least not worse, yes even Banton would be less similar on the nailed by pin spider collar, but then this would be no longer Van der Graaf. Saksofonist Deyv Jackson, who covered bald spot by his traditional, from the base of group by the brought leather kartuzikom, it soloed without ceasing and from time to time it played on two saxophones simultaneously. In the principle of this it would be possible to avoid let us assume if we use on the scene a "wash" for the production of living semplov. But even before the concert Of khemmill stated in the interview some of television network that they do not have not one semplera on the scene, that everything that they make, uncommon combination of usual tools, two sets of keys, saxophones and drums. Drummer Gaius Evans, entirely brityy, similar to the elderly docker, held rod by fingers as prewar dzhazmen, and from time to time he played some entirely other, different from all rest music. But the most striking, most present revelation was the voice Of khemmilla. There is many fate- musicians, xwho do not have voice, which do not know how to sing. Some of them with this genius: Lu Reed, who simply talks under the music, is no Keyv it yells, that Of veyts it khripit and rychit uterine. Khemmill issues roulades, to its, as he said itself, by "dramatic voice" it issues complex semantic systems. In the record this sufficiently interestingly sounds, but old age is not happiness - it lost voice completely, to applaud here is possible only to shameless bravery, with which this horror is demonstrated to public. I greatly feared, that it descended from the mind and one napryazhenno I scrutinize the mantle of the kings of art- fate, I attempt it to reveal and fear to shout: "naked!" They were, however, were overheard the conversations of the adult and very properly dressed men, which were being been surprised at disgusting, "as into some to pipe", to acoustic fidelity, to the strange voice Of khemmilla and, generally, "and those whether they brought?!". But everything was pleased to the larger part of the public. Peace generally consists of mazokhistov. Principal focus, main conflict of this group consist in from time to time throwing of to public the bone, the piece of anything laconic, distinct, any melody, either khodik or riff, and to then bury this under the waterfall of absurd it is sonic, by the polyphonic piling up of nonsense, svezhen'kogo dekonstruktivnogo advance guard. This concert, just as all other appearances of the reuniting themselves classicists of art- fate, ended by the standing ovation of grateful public. Both it and we all can place in their heart one additional galochku: and these also in us arrived, they came out before the complete enthusiastic hall and satisfactorily rolled. I like the way they spell "Hammill" lol.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:10
I'll be going to the gig in Newcastle a week on Friday. Any other members going to go for that one? If so, feel free to accost me. I'll be the chap in the bowler.
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:19
Trouserpress wrote:
I'll be going to the gig in Newcastle a week on Friday. Any other members going to go for that one? If so, feel free to accost me. I'll be the chap in the bowler. |
Marvelous. I am row A seat 26 I think. I'll keep a lookout for you. I'll be the one crying when they play Childlike faith (again!)
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:42
We'll attend their saturday gig in Leverkusen. Only half an hour from our home by car.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:54
NutterAlert wrote:
They're back. The Generator has whirled back into life once again.
They have taken Russia by storm, as the attached link shows (for all Russian readers). http://gazeta.ru/2005/10/27/oa_175727.shtml - http://gazeta.ru/2005/10/27/oa_175727.shtml
The setlist for St. Petersburg is very much in line with their setlist from earlier this year:
The Undercover Man Scorched Earth Every Bloody Emperor Lemmings (In The) Black Room Nutter Alert Darkness (11/11) Masks Childlike Faith In Childhood's End The Sleepwalkers Man-Erg
Encore: Refugees
Friede & Jean, hope you have a great time on 4th, look forward to reading your concert review. Hope everyone else enjoys seeing them too. Can't wait till my tour round north of England next weekend.
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The concert is on the 5th, but we'll have fun.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 11:45
NutterAlert wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
I'll be going to the gig in Newcastle a week on Friday. Any other members going to go for that one? If so, feel free to accost me. I'll be the chap in the bowler. |
Marvelous. I am row A seat 26 I think. I'll keep a lookout for you. I'll be the one crying when they play Childlike faith (again!)
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Hoorah! Not sure where I'll be sitting as my girlfriend got the tickets. Wear a badge.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 14:01
Do you know, which TV station is going to broadcast the gig in Leverkusen? Is it still ARD?
Sadly, I have to work on Saturday!
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Posted By: TURK182!
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:57
Unfortunately, I'm not from UK and I'm not living there...
Do you know guys if here in north america if we have a little chance, especially in Québec.
Because, I know that they came here in 1976 in World Record Tour. They did about 6 gigs in Province of Québec and Peter Hammill came here in first part of Genesis gigs and he cameback a couple of time. Last time he came here it's at the end of the '90s.
So if you have news concerning VDGG coming in North america, please let me know!
THANKS!!!
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"If you go down to Willow farm, you look for Butterflies..."
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Posted By: MoodsWings
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 21:00
Yeah it would be nice if they came to Canada but I highly doubt it.
For all of you that are going to see them on this tour, have fun and I look forward to the reviews.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 04:03
RaphaelT wrote:
Do you know, which TV station is going to broadcast the gig in Leverkusen? Is it still ARD?
Sadly, I have to work on Saturday!
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It will be WDR. And they won't broadcast it live; they'll broadcast it some weeks later (don't know when yet; but I sent an inquiring e-mail to them) as part of their "Rockpalast" ("Rock Palace") program.
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Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 14:45
They came in sicily and I missed them...
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La Speranza del sentimento è schiavitù
La Speranza del corpo è malattia
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 18:30
Just got back. VDGG rocked, predictably enough. Details to follow in the newsletter.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 05:41
the Leverkusen concert of VdGG will be shown on TV on Jan 16th at half past midnight CET on WDR (German tv-channel)
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